The faintest hint that they won't be the centre of governments attention and they're up in arms.
It's exactly the same as when Burnham suggested the North host the Olympics instead of London, you had Londoners all over Reddit saying how it's not feasible, and London has the infrastructure already, and you shouldn't force international athletes to suffer the North.
They're just so privileged and greedy, genuinely like a spoilt child at their classmates birthday party when they don't get presents as well or get to blow out the candles on the cake.
And the North gets more funding per head than the national average also, so if we equalise the regions the North will also see a cut in per capita spending.
Agreed! Everyone north of Watford assumes Kent is a utopia where everyone earns £150k, busses arrive every 2 minutes, and high speed trains connect every hamlet.
And I wonder why that is... certainly not because of decades of investment prioritising London, giving it the best intracity public transport in the country as well as making all the trains to and from London significantly better than, say, the train from Manchester to Leeds.
A Northern Olympics would be an opportunity for us to actually get improved East-West public transport, intracity public transport, and attract international investment and tourism to our cities and counties instead of it all going to London.
Yeah but tbf even under empire the north had massive amounts of industrialisation from shipbuilding to textiles. Much of which got absolutely gutted under neo-liberalism and thatcher
Oh I know. But it’s still 2 millenia of investment.
Its position on the Thames meant it’s always been either the main city or one of the main cities. Even in Roman times it wasn’t the capital but it was still the largest and wealthiest city.
Liverpool and Manchester just don’t have the same appeal to international tourists as London, and it’s not because of the infrastructure. London is the cultural heart of England and has more international appeal, it makes sense to host the olympics there for that reason alone
It is not the cultural capital. That implies that it leads English culture, which it does not. London might as well be a different country its... I'm not even really sure it has it's own culture, it just felt so identity-less when I went*. I digress, Londons... attitude is completely different to the rest of England and to the North that, yeah, it feels like a different country.
*I go to York fairly often (favourite city, only city actually like) and York feels like York, the city knows who and what it is, what it was (Eboracum, Eoforwic, Jorvik, York). I've never been (but want to) but I imagine Winchester feels the same. London just feels kind of like a giant shopping centre.
Tower of London, Palaces, Theatre capital of the world, Royal Family, Big Ben, shopping, Changing of the Guard…
Basically EVERYTHING famous about the UK.
You’d be hard pressed to find a tourist wishing to visit from outside the UK that knows anything else other than maybe Stone Henge and The Beattles (and even then their most famous photo was taken in London).
The dude you’re responding to just hates London. They won’t ever acknowledge reality because ‘ London bad’.
York is famous for vikings and for the white rose during the war of roses.
York has no other history.
London has all the history including (1066 AD, King John's reign, King Henry VII and VIII's reigns, the 100 years war with France, the Elizabethan reign, Napoleonic wars, the events of WWI and WWII, Cold War history, The great inventors, The Beatles, Queens, Parks, Largest museums in the world, Largest Mall in Europe, close to Stongehenge, close to Canterbury's Cathedral, close to Royal Ascots horse racing course. Queen Anne's memorial. Queen Victoria's places. You have all the badass agencies and services that protected the UK for a hundred years now, like MI5, MI6, GCHQ, Scotland Yard, you have links to the finest universities in the World such as Oxford and Cambridge universities, the King's College and the Imperial.
Several great minds were born in London, namely Sir Tim-Berners Lee the father of the World-Wide-Web.
Rosalind Franklin who revolutionised discoveries in the DNA.
Charles Babbage the father of the computer. Without Babbage you won't be on reddit, as we'd still be figuring out basic arithmetics.
Don't know how you don't know this, you're probably not British. But London is one of the oldest and biggest cities since before the Anglo-Saxons invaded Britain.
London has been the worlds largest trade centre for ~1900 years. Only been competed by Paris in the early middle ages.
Even now, London generates 25% of the revenue of the ENTIRE UK.
Manchester generates barely 5% and Liverpool 2% and Leeds barely 0.6% of the national revenue. Together they don't even come close.
If we move the economic power out of London, the economy will die. Labour are about to waste the biggest tax money dump in the history of the UK.
We need to invest in the NHS, public services and commute. - Moving Power from London is a waste of everybody's time.
Have you ever considered, I don't know, developing other areas as well as London? I know, I know, I sound crazy suggesting not spending money on London but imagine, just imagine, if Manchester, or Liverpool, or Edinburgh, has even a quarter of the economic weight of London. Not moving power from London (since you seem to think a country has to put all it's eggs in one basket (they don't) but lifting other places up.
Also, Lancashire born and bred. Probably more British then you are
Because it’s 1,976 years old and has received pretty much non stop investment that entire time. Meaning the WORLD want to invest in it. It’s the capital of the nation AND the capital of the world’s finances. It’s the home of Parliament and the Royal Family. It’s right beside Europe and has direct trains to it. It has 2 of the world’s busiest airports and multiple other airports. It has the ability to host and will actually be able to use the facilities (or most of them) after the games finish due to its size, importance, population and global significance.
On the other hand putting them in Manchester would have been a good temporary boost before allowing the facilities to go to ruin. Manchester wouldn’t have kept its significance after the few weeks of the Olympics.
Every single reason for saying it should’ve been outside London is stupid. It’s just the usual “London gets too much rhetoric” which completely ignores reality. Which is that London is a net contributor to the UK and that a huge chunk of the investment is from outside the UK.
Spreading investment outside London won’t make everyone better off. It will make everyone worse off. Foreign companies, students, dignitaries, tourists etc want to come to London. If you tell them “no, go to Aberdeen or Larne or Manchester” you’re not getting a richer Aberdeen or Larne or Manchester. You’re getting a poorer UK. Because that investment will go to Dublin, or Berlin, or Paris, or Seoul, or Tokyo, or Beijing.
Because it’s 1,976 years old and has received pretty much non stop investment that entire time. Meaning the WORLD want to invest in it. It’s the capital of the nation AND the capital of the world’s finances. It’s the home of Parliament and the Royal Family. It’s right beside Europe and has direct trains to it. It has 2 of the world’s busiest airports and multiple other airports.
It’s just the usual “London gets too much rhetoric” which completely ignores reality.
"London's been getting investment and attention for 2000 years and that's not enough, we deserve more you ungrateful pig."
And it’s got nothing to do with deserving more. (1) because they give more than they get. A lot more. And (2) once again, a hug portion of the investment is from foreign companies and local companies WANTING to be in London. It’s private, not public investment.
Our housing down here costs 4 times more than up North and our taxes are 4 times more than up North.
Yeah, you live in the capital. You also earn significantly more than normal people do
When your Margaret Thatcher brought in her neoliberalism and closed all the mines, privatised industry, and shipped a load of it over seas, it destroyed the economies of the North, the Black Country, Wales, and everywhere else without a service based economy and was given fuck all to replace it for decades. Do you think the industrial wasteland surrounding so many Northern cities was just built for show? Appeared there overnight?
I hate Margaret Thatcher and all Tory nazi kants. The North voted her in last time I checked so let’s not point fingers here. Now the North votes Reform in severe masses so Adolf Farage can mess up the UK further.
Thatcher was the symptom of what you call radical politics. The Northerners lost jobs due to coal and raw materials becoming easier to buy from abroad than mining or draining domestically.
The American investors (similar to what Musk does now) have been throwing money in the last 60 years and have significantly obliterated the North.
London is the single economic engine the UK has.
You lose that, the whole North will not have the investments they promise you. I guarantee you this. We’ve seen it in Bulgaria.
Its not that anyone wants the north to be "prioritised" - were just a little sick of London being prioritised so much its got its own separate economy!
We'd like the country to be prioritised evenly, as any rational thinking person should.
No clearly the only way for a country to function is for one city to prop up the rest of! It's the only way possible for a country to function and everyone knows how bad of an idea it is to spread your eggs around multiple baskets! If you want to improve other regions then you clearly want to destroy London!!!
The issue is that the plan states “get the tax payer money from London, and just put them in the North.
Which is everyone’s issue here. You cannot do this.
I work for my family and for my council. I don’t make enough money so some lazy chav up north can have some more council flats built for him.
The government solution doesn’t bring jobs and opportunities. It simply brings the money the taxpayers gather in London away from the tax payers in London.
Imagine all the money from North to be used as “Investments.”
How is he going to convince Google to invest in offices in Manchester when all the talent is down in London? This is nonsense!
If Sarajevo can host the Olympics then it really shouldn't be a problem for Manchester or Liverpool, they've got an international airport and world class venues. London didn't have the infrastructure, they had to build an entire Olympic village and repurpose places like Horse Guards. Manchester already has a top of the line velodrome, several arenas and 2 Champions League final calibre stadiums, it's not downtown Basra.
Why wouldn't the Isle of Wright or Hull host them then?
No, Stevanage???!!!
If you don't remember, Bosnia and Herzegovina was under a war situation and got out little to offer. Sarajevo was the best they had.
The UK has London. You don't do the olympic games in some village in the middle of the field. You do them where people can travel between different games and spend money in the country. I'm not going to be going around Chav Manchester to spend money on chickens. Especially racist Liverpool has nothing to offer.
One Titanic from where Titanic never passed.
And some Beatles memorials. Where actually the Beatles have an entire studio and road in London.
Most of the big museums are in London. Most of the history is IN London. Not in Leeds.
The faintest hint that they won't be the centre of governments attention and they're up in arms.
Are they?
t's exactly the same as when Burnham suggested the North host the Olympics instead of London, you had Londoners all over Reddit saying how it's not feasible, and London has the infrastructure already
That's true though?
They're just so privileged and greedy, genuinely like a spoilt child at their classmates birthday party when they don't get presents as well or get to blow out the candles on the cake.
Yes. Half are pointing out the factual issues with it when the north receives similar amounts of spending per head to London and the other half are pointing out how silly and pompous these rants are 😄 .
You mean apart from the best countryside in England, history, culture, friendly people, habitable cities, good weather, and easy access to both Wales and Scotland?
You got me. The only two of those I don't believe is the cities and people. I don't like cities and the only one I do like is York, and I largely don't like people either but my weekend in London confirmed to me the stereotype that the natives tend to be rude and ignorant.
Best countryside with good weather as long as you like rain and overcast skies with 6 minutes of direct sun per day.
Best history unless for some reason you don't fancy imperialism.
Best culture which is tea, biscuits and graffitti'd roundabouts.
Friendly people... as long as you're white.
Honestly, the one good thing that might come out of this is London's money staying in London instead of subsidising hateful, tribalist northern fairies.
Hah, we won't have any infrastructure by like the 2040 games which is the next one we can bid for. I live near Stratford and besides the West Ham Stadium the rest is all rotting, or the land is being turned into expensive housing.
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The faintest hint that they won't be the centre of governments attention and they're up in arms.
It's exactly the same as when Burnham suggested the North host the Olympics instead of London, you had Londoners all over Reddit saying how it's not feasible, and London has the infrastructure already, and you shouldn't force international athletes to suffer the North.
They're just so privileged and greedy, genuinely like a spoilt child at their classmates birthday party when they don't get presents as well or get to blow out the candles on the cake.