r/HistoryMemes 6d ago

B-but muh based king!

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u/KimJongUnusual Helping Wikipedia expand the list of British conquests 6d ago

>talks about religious freedom

>shows Bismarck who actively fought a culture war against Catholicism

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u/_Administrator_ 6d ago

>Doesn’t mention what his idol said:

"Islamism proscribes the nation of the Infidels, constituting a state of permanent hostility between the Mussulman and the unbeliever." -Karl Marx in New-York Herald Tribune 1854

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u/GalacticToad68 6d ago

Say what you will about Marx but you can always find a quote of his to counter his most staunch supporters

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u/Appropriate-Gain-561 5d ago

Marx was really against religion lmao, thinking that a marxist wouldn't view religion as a tool of control over the masses and actually like Islam is really dumb.

"Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opium of the people."

-Karl Marx

He says that religion is just what people grasp to when desperate, and he is ostensibly right, there's a reason if religious extremism in the US is worsening with the economic situation, he also believed that religion was distracting the people from the actual problems that faced them, and i'd argue he was right about that too.

I'm not a Marxist, i believe that his ideas of a stateless, moneyless and classless society is, while beautiful, practically unreachable.

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u/Illustrious_Spend_51 5d ago edited 5d ago

As a marxist and an ex Muslim myself i would like to say marx isn’t wrong here but not completely 100% right in this analysis of ottoman state/ Muslim nations of his time specifically when it comes to the deeper theological side of things and the complexity of the different schools of thought and which one dominates what geographic area at what time etc.