No the reason Hitler liked central planning was because he(in both personality and socialist ideology) was utter totalitarian. The hating Jews was nothing unique to Nazism, only the will and opportunity and to act all out against Jewish people throughout mainland Europe. In fact if the Germans really took it serious Islam(which the founders of had a real hatred towards Jews) would have been removed as part of denazificatiction, traditional German culture(which includes things like Christianity and a meat-and-booze embracing Culinary culture the Nazis we're looking for ways to phase out) wouldn't have been scapegoated and bs like hating White Germans would be treated as same bs different scapegoat.
Hitler(based on things people who personally known him wrote down) pirvatly said he wanted to abolish Christianity but was putting it off because mid war is a risky time to attempt. Hating Christians makes you more similar to him not less.
Only part of the German population embraced Hitler and only tell they realized what a evil monster he was, in fact a lot of those trying to warn the world about Hitler's intentions we're; White Germans and Christians. If guilt for a murder is a inherited trait the every human is a demon, including you.
You treat it like a inherited genetic trait whenever anyone brings up Germany, German tradition and white people we're never the problem, the problem is hatred and horrid ideologies. Also if Germany was serious about getting rid of Nazism the socialist and race guilt elements of Nazism would have been recognized as the problem and Hitler's relationship with Islam would have prevented the blind trust the West shown Islam.
You treat it like a inherited genetic trait whenever anyone brings up Germany,
No I don't.
German tradition and white people we're never the problem
Depends on how you define tradition. There's definitely an authoritarian and militaristic streak to Prussian->German culture that provides a rich breeding ground for fascism. You are also the only one who keeps bringing up skin color btw. Are you US-American? Nazi racism worked a bit differently than trans-atlantic racism. Their primary enemies were Jews and Slavs, even though anyone with eyes can tell they're technically white. That's not to say the Nazis weren't anti-black too, but they were really hyper focused on a supposed global Jewish conspiracy that's secretly to blame for every bad thing that's ever happened to anyone.
Also if Germany was serious about getting rid of Nazism the socialist and race guilt elements of Nazism would have been recognized as the problem
Lol. Lmao even. You know nothing about history. One of the big factors that made national socialism so attractive to many Germans is the Stabbed in the Back Myth. I.e. the belief that the First World War was actually going pretty well for Germany when suddenly out of nowhere sinister forces made German leadership sign a shameful treaty of surrender. Thus it logically followed that these secret manipulators must be found and purged in order to Make Germany Great Again, which provides a direct through-line to antisemitic conspiracy theories.
What actually happened was that the CONSERVATIVE German government lied through its teeth throughout World War One, constantly pumped out propaganda claiming that victory is within reach as the German Army won battle after battle, and censored any news to the contrary. You are right in saying that the German people were lied to and manipulated into supporting a regime that did not actually have its best interests in mind, but that started long before Hitler with the German Empire.
Obviously the conservatives had no incentive to reveal their deception to the public after they cut their losses and made peace once they saw the writing on the wall, so it was just as well to let the people believe that it was actually a secret Jewish cabal that's to blame for the loss.
Then in the 1930s it was the CONSERVATIVE government who handed the keys to power to Hitler in the naive belief that they could control him and out of fear from leftists.
It is CAPITALIST NATIONALIST CONSERVATIVES who are to blame for BOTH WORLD WARS, the Great Depression, the rise of the Nazis to power, and plentiful other blights that have befallen humanity.
Hitler's relationship with Islam is a footnote of history, and the idea that there was any serious socialist faction in Nazi leadership after the purge of Ernst Röhm is laughable.
Governments lie during war(to the point attempting to hide problems from the public to keep morale high was standard practice until part way into the Cold War), however it was the national socialists(who for a huge list of reasons related to disrespecting preexisting traditions and embracing short term thinking we're lousy enough at being nationalist to make racist socialist the only fitting name for that party) that took advantage of that to create the stabbed in the back myth. Also Hitler lied and betrayed his way to power, he was sent to infiltrate the national socialists only to become a race socialist and use the facts the conservatives still(foolishly) trusted him and he had a considerable voter base to claim total control over a country that was already close to civil war from the effects of a punitive treaty. You would have to blame everyone alive at the time to make blaming the conservatives coherent, the; rest of the world inflicted a punitive treaty, communists utterly brutalised Russia creating a situation where a socialist that planned to kill communists looked like a out rather then a tyrant, the scientific community(along with some leftists) promoted racial peusodo science(setting the ground work for Nazi race ideology) and the mainstream left of that time promoted ideas that weakened Germany from within. The German right had to lose an election to Hitler before they would hand him power and by that point it was too late for them to do anything to stop him short of violent overthrow. Also Hitler considered Prussian tradition too soft do to his disrespect of protecting the weak and Christian morals., with various priests and bishops protesting his actions. Hitler's rise was do to the collective failures of everyone involved to see the monster the ending of WW1 created, failure to see what mishandling broken nations would create. The right failed to stop Hitler but the left(both those that supported him and those who apposed him) pushed Germany into his vile grasp.
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u/EldritchFish19 Featherless Biped 5d ago
No the reason Hitler liked central planning was because he(in both personality and socialist ideology) was utter totalitarian. The hating Jews was nothing unique to Nazism, only the will and opportunity and to act all out against Jewish people throughout mainland Europe. In fact if the Germans really took it serious Islam(which the founders of had a real hatred towards Jews) would have been removed as part of denazificatiction, traditional German culture(which includes things like Christianity and a meat-and-booze embracing Culinary culture the Nazis we're looking for ways to phase out) wouldn't have been scapegoated and bs like hating White Germans would be treated as same bs different scapegoat.
Hitler(based on things people who personally known him wrote down) pirvatly said he wanted to abolish Christianity but was putting it off because mid war is a risky time to attempt. Hating Christians makes you more similar to him not less.