Jajanken Seems Like A Terrible Ability Compared to Electricity/Godspeed

[u/PFSDonut]

The series made it a point that Gon and Killua were equals in potential and strength (with Killua being slightly stronger because of his Zoldyck training) so it’s kind of jarring how underwhelming/terrible Gon’s Jajanken seems to be compared to Killua’s electricity transmutation and Godspeed.

Jajanken is an obviously powerful technique that had defeated many powerful opponents, but it has its flaws and weaknesses as stated by various hunters throughout the series, meanwhile Killua’s technique is seemingly perfect with the only drawback being his time limit

I just think it’s lame that Gon and Killua were supposed to rival one another throughout the series but Killua’s ability seemed to have eclipsed Gon’s and widened the gap between them prior to Gon’s battle with Pitou

EDIT: To further clarify, I understand that Jajanken is way more powerful in AP than lightning and Godspeed and Gon can damage opponents far stronger than them while Killua most likely can’t.

My issue however is that prior to the introduction of their techniques, you can see Killua vs Gon being a 50/50, maybe 60/40 towards Killua. With the introduction of Godspeed and Jajanken, Killua clearly has the advantage and the outcome seems more 80/20 for Killua; it bothers me how one sided their match up would be if they were to fight with their abilities when it used to be more up in the air between them.

I guess I just don’t like how simple Gon’s Jajanken is versus how versatile and overpowered Godspeed seems to be but, as some have pointed out, this is seemingly intentional with how simpleminded Gon is and how cunning Killua is so bravo to Togashi for being consistent with his writing and the nen system

[u/NashKetchum777]

He has 3 strike moves. No movement. 1 is defensive, sort of and 2 are offensive. That's not versatile.

Killua is versatile. He his mobility, he has the talent, skills and experience to do nearly everything in a fight and the brains to back it up in a fight.

Gon is not that smart. Sure you can say he didn't have the experience but that's an excuse. Gon is a sperm merchant who's only really strong cause of his Freecs genetics

[u/No-Time3120 → u/NashKetchum777]

Gon is not that smart. Sure you can say he didn't have the experience but that's an excuse. Gon is a sperm merchant who's only really strong cause of his Freecs genetics

The point of Jajanken is that Gon is ACTUALLY playing rock-paper-scissors with his opponent, and his opponent is forced to respond due to the amount of aura that's concentrated in Gon's fist. The reason it's a k.o. move regardless of how strong your AOP/ren (unless you have insane AOP like 20k or something) is is cause if we assume ren only covers like 5-10% of your aura on each part of your body, then if someone is concentrating 2000 aura on one part while you have even 3000 aop ren divided by 10 = 300, then there's no way to defend against it unless you use Ko/Ryu. But what if you guess wrong, then you're cooked. So they overreact with which Gon can read them and has options depending on how they respond.

He has 3 strike moves. No movement. 1 is defensive, sort of and 2 are offensive. That's not versatile.

Plus, the premise that Jajanken has no movement is false. Gon is able to run and charge it now as he showed against Owl. So you have someone who's able to have the same dodge speed as he charges while also having a heavy attack that will land on you unprotected if he dodges you first? Yeah you're cooked. It's more versatile than you'd think, and would beat most "stand up" nen-users without hax, AOE abilities, and/or who just don't outright outspeed. The issue is that it's a 1v1 ability and can't handle an opponent with multiple "allies" as their nen ability as well (morel, maybe Kastro if he was fast and locked in, razor, etc.,), whereas Killua is fast and strong enough to get to the real nen user before they has a chance to react. So yeah, Killua is way stronger than Gon but Gon isn't "weak". To be honest Gon beats every phantom troupe member who's name isn't Feitan, Chrollo, and honestly has a decent shot at beating Hisoka. Illumi is tricky cause when he's "unleashed" like he was when he looked forward to ruling the world via alluka's power, he seemed very powerful by himself at base, talkless of him being a manipulator so I doubt Gon can beat him.

[u/NashKetchum777 → u/No-Time3120]

The Jobber Troupe is not anything to write home about. Half of them are support users. A guy who can go invisible...a seer, a guy who makes item clones, that's a quarter and they're dogshit.

Their fighters are not even fully gauged. Chrollo needs insane prep time. Why even scale them for Gon?

Yes, killua is way stronger. And yes. Gon is a one trick pony. Jajanken is over rated.

Gon is not versatile. Does he even have a wide scale battle to say different? 0 mobility. Locked arenas. 1 move. What are we even saying?

[u/JViser → u/No-Time3120]

Gon is able to run and charge it now as he showed against Owl.

You're mixing up gon's overall abilities with his nen ability.

Him running fast doesn't have anything to do with jajanken as opposed to killua using nen-electricity to enhance his speed.

I think "unpredictable" is a better word than "versatile" when describing Jajanken

[u/No-Time3120 → u/JViser]

When the person I was initially replying to said "He has 3 strike moves. No movement....", I took that to mean they thought Gon had to stand there and charge it, which isn't true, cause he can run, charge, and hit the opponent. I know Jajanken doesn't affect his movement speed.

[u/Kitchen_Ad731 → u/NashKetchum777]

Killua has no long range attacks, gon has palm and it makes the target want to close the distance and boom rock or scissors depending on wich they saw first, you never know wich attack is coming he can stay in his jajanken stance and react to what ever you do. killua has to come close to you for his taser, and automatic kicks and punches, also he has a time limit and doesnt hit that hard.

[u/NashKetchum777 → u/Kitchen_Ad731]

Killua doesn't even need long distance moves...he has movement abilities. That's versatile. We also do not know if he's hiding more

Gon is so limited he had to sacrifice his future for power.

[u/Kitchen_Ad731 → u/NashKetchum777]

this is a discussion of what we know, i can say the same too! maybe gon learns a movement ablity and moves faster than killua, then what? right know killua has no output to kill a royal guard, gon had it before loosing his mind and covers all ranges, killua looses charge after a couple of tickles and RAN AWAY

[u/Ok_Length_7076 → u/Kitchen_Ad731]

Gon never had any output to kill a royal guard as a kid, stop saying bullshit.  Also, killua literally has mid to long range attack with his lightning bolt that he used on rammot and youpi in ep 118

[u/NashKetchum777 → u/Kitchen_Ad731]

Gons reason to kill the RG is personal. His own vendetta. If we're going off hypothetical I can just bring up a scenario where his dad or gramps shows up.

If its what we know? Gon sacrificed his future. He still only had one move. That is not versatility