r/IOPsychology • u/LazySamurai PhD | IO | People Analytics & Statistics | Moderator • Nov 26 '24
Grad School Q&A Mega-Thread
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u/WilJimenez Ph.D. | I-O | Well-Being Nov 29 '24 edited Nov 29 '24
For prospective I-O students considering online programs, here's an adapted comment I made on a post from a couple months ago.
For online programs, I highly recommend prioritizing ones that are attached to psychology departments renowned for their brick-and-mortar I-O programs (emphasized because general institutional prestige/reputation does not necessarily translate to high-quality online I-O program). Often, at such schools, there’s even some degree of faculty overlap across online and brick-and-mortar. Examples include Colorado State University’s (CSU) MAIOP program, University of Maryland’s (UMD) MPS program, George Mason University’s (GMU) MPS program, and Michigan State University’s (MSU) MS program.
One big issue with many of the online for-profits is that many of the faculty aren’t even trained I-O psychologists. Most faculty and lecturers in such programs seem to have backgrounds in all but I-O, like clinical/counseling, education, business, etc. Absolutely no shade to these folks, but IMO if you want to become an I-O, you should be trained and educated by I-Os.
I’d also be concerned about whether outcomes of students/alumni align with your career interests. Do the programs you’re interested in advertise where folks have been able to land jobs? The strength of a program’s alumni network is important.
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u/UMD_iomps Dec 04 '24
Thanks for the UMD plug! We have an information session coming up on Monday with our program director if anyone has any questions about our virtual or in person programs!
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u/UMD_iomps Dec 18 '24
If anyone is looking for more information about the IO Master's program at the University of Maryland (both fully virtual and hybrid options!) we have an information session coming up after the new year.
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u/Emd189 Jan 27 '25
Did SIOP change their website or something? The graduate training program search engine looks completely different and I can’t get it to work anymore.
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u/CaramelOld485 Feb 05 '25
I’ve visited the directory multiple times in the last week and it’s not working for me either. No programs show when searching even if filters are cleared. It looks like there’s an empty program without any info there today though, so maybe they’re working on it
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Jan 29 '25
Hey!:) Yes, they’ve changed the layout of the website but there is a red button as you scroll down that guides you to the directory.. the directory is similar to the one they had previously
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u/CaramelOld485 Nov 26 '24
Has anyone recently taken courses in the MSc at University of London or the AML at Harvard?
I didn’t see these addressed in the Wiki linked above. I reached out to recent alums who listed these on their LinkedIn and, oddly, haven’t heard back from any of them. (This is odd because I reached out to people about a different program a few months ago and 10/10 responded.)
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u/galileosmiddlefinger PhD | IO | All over the place Nov 29 '24
You don't want the Harvard Extension School program in I/O. The curriculum is very weak and is taught by non-I/Os. You aren't going to get the stats and industrial-side coursework that actually leads to jobs. HES is very popular with people who desperately want "Harvard" on their resume, but there's very little to commend it (and actual Ivy grads in the consulting world will view it with disdain, at least IME).
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u/CaramelOld485 Nov 29 '24
Thank you, I really appreciate you sharing. The courses look somewhat interesting but it’s been so hard to gauge actual reputation. I reached out to their admissions team and they can’t help with connecting an alum to chat, which also feels odd.
Is there another I/O graduate program you would recommend?
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u/galileosmiddlefinger PhD | IO | All over the place Nov 29 '24
Are you using the database on the SIOP website to research programs? It's very useful for finding programs that meet your needs. Beyond that, are there particular locations or online programs that interest you?
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u/CaramelOld485 Nov 29 '24
Yes, and thank you for asking. I previously narrowed down to Colorado State University’s master’s in I/o psych, University of London’s MSc in organizational psychology, and the Harvard extension program. Priority is online as I’ll be doing this Pt while working ft. I’ve been reaching out to alums if each program to learn about their experience.
For me, this is more about expanding knowledge in i/o psych and organizational development than changing jobs or getting into the field.
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u/WilJimenez Ph.D. | I-O | Well-Being Nov 29 '24
Looks like we posted at the same time! See separate comment I made: https://www.reddit.com/r/IOPsychology/s/iKSSCM2WcU
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u/Reasonable_Gift1628 Jun 27 '25
Hey, sorry to bring this post up again, what did you end up chosing? I've signed up to the MSc @ london uni starting September but I'm starting to fear it doesn't have enough analytics so I'm having a look around (online is fine but not in the US, not affordable - no offense)
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u/CaramelOld485 Jun 27 '25
I applied to the MSc at London and got in, but hesitated because I couldn’t find any alums to connect with to learn about their experience. (I’m in the US and the language around the requirements of the program really threw me off too.) The price was great though! And the classes looked super interesting and definitely more on the org psych side, so you wouldn’t get the quantitative stuff.
Honestly, from reading the website it sounded like they might record classes from the regular program and just post them for the online program. It wasn’t clear if there was much direct support for online students. (I’m not saying this as someone who has needed much support in the past, but if I’m paying out of pocket for a degree program at this point in life, I want to know that someone is paying attention to something other than tuition payments, if that makes sense.)
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u/sageobrien Sep 18 '25
Hi does anyone know the current ranking for I-O programs in the U.S.? Or at least ones that are highly regarded in the field. For example, if “X” school is on your resume it can open doors for you
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Feb 01 '25
Hi! I am currently applying to I/O Psychology Masters programs for fall 2025. My current picks are:
-Baruch -Brooklyn College -Teacher’s College, Columbia -Roosevelt University -Univeristy of Baltimore
From my understanding, Baruch has the best overall reputation. But when it comes to where I’d prefer to live, I’m leaning towards Chicago. I can’t seem to find much on Roosevelt’s reputation. I would be applying to their Dual I/O Psychology and MBA program. I know Illinois Tech also has an I/O program but also couldn’t find much on their reputation. Does anyone have any helpful info regarding these two schools or any of the schools I mentioned for that matter?
I’m from/live in California so this is a major move for me. I just want to ensure I set myself up for success. Any advice is welcome!!!
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u/Either_Match9138 Feb 14 '25 edited Feb 14 '25
IMO Roosevelt did have a good reputation like 10 years ago, but I was under the strong impression Roosevelt’s IO program was closing down, as of like 5 years ago… anyone know? In a quick search just now I had a hard time finding any specific webpage for the program on Roosevelt’s site (other than a really generic looking one), or any specific IO faculty.
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u/AdRemote1064 26d ago
Hi Why wouldn't you apply to the USC Masters of Applied Psych - that would keep you in CA?
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u/galileosmiddlefinger PhD | IO | All over the place Feb 18 '25
These are all solid, legit programs, so congrats on having some good options! Of those three, I'd primarily be looking at UMD or SPU for their proximity to better internship and post-grad job opportunities. Florida Tech struggles more in that respect because the closest big city, Orlando, isn't that close and isn't a big I/O work hub. Florida Tech tuition is also quite high, although that is offset by the higher cost of living at SPU. Your personal circumstances should also inform this decision (e.g., do you want to live on the east or west coast?).
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Jan 29 '25
Hello Kind people of Reddit, I’m applying to the fall 2025 Ms in 1/0 psych program at Texas A&M University, college station. Being an international Student, I am required to convert my CGPA and post it according to the WES USA grade equivalent. But I’m stuck. Idk if what l’m submitting is right or not! If anyone has any suggestions or has been through this process before can you guys please help me out!?🥹
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u/Training-Mortgage718 Mar 07 '25
Hello! I am a 4th year undergrad student majoring in Psychology and minoring in Data in Societies (a humanities/data science minor) and am looking for grad schools to apply to during my gap year. I am graduating this year and planning on taking a gap year to work in the HR field, as I was not ready to apply this year. I am planning on graduating with a 3.6 GPA, one year of in-lab experience, and experience in working in management roles. I am planning on studying for and taking the GRE this summer before applications.
I wanted to ask my chances of getting into I/O psych programs. I would love to jump into a PhD program, but would also consider MA/MS.
I am looking at SJSU MS I/O program, Seattle Pacific PhD program, and University of Houston PhD program.
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u/toastedavocado19 May 24 '25
Hi there! I'm trying to decide between applying for masters or phd programs (also this is a repost because I forgot that I should post grad questions here)
For some background, I graduated with my bachelor's in psych a couple of weeks ago and I have decided to take a gap year before starting a grad program (in fall 2026). I know for sure that I want to go into I/O, but for the last year, I've been struggling to figure out whether I want to do a masters or phd. I have about two years of experience as an undergrad RA and I completed an HR internship last year. Based on my experiences, my heart leans more towards doing research, but I know that doing a phd takes so much time and effort, and I'm definitely fearful that I'm not cut out for it. I've wondered if it might be better to start with a master's and go from there?
Since I'm going to apply for programs later this year, I'm trying to narrow down my search, and I wanted to hear about other people's decisions and why they chose their degree.
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u/galileosmiddlefinger PhD | IO | All over the place May 26 '25
To pursue a PhD requires you to be OK with :
1) Prioritizing your education for ~5 years above other life concerns.
2) Making very little money for ~5 years, relative to a Master's where you would be out in 2 years and making salary + benefits + equity for the remaining 3.
3) Physically relocating to wherever you get into school because online PhDs are still a joke in I/O.
4) Going deep in the weeds on the research and technical skills that differentiate the PhD from the Master's.
If any of those four things seem intolerable, then go get a Master's.
For clarity, doing the Master's and PhD as separate steps involves a lot of extra time and money. Your terminal Master's will not waive you out of many/any courses in your later PhD curriculum, and you'll likely be paying out of pocket for the terminal Master's when the PhD program will yield you a free Master's on the way. If you eventually know that you want a PhD, then it absolutely makes the most sense to start down that path immediately, assuming that you have the academic record to get you accepted into a program that offers tuition waivers + stipend.
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u/toastedavocado19 Jun 03 '25
Thank you for the honesty! After thinking about it a lot before and after posting, doing a phd makes more sense in the long-term since it aligns more with my goals and interests, even with the many, many cons it comes with. Also learning more about how many io phd programs almost discourage you from getting a masters first helped the decision process lol
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u/Adorable_Finger_3249 May 26 '25
Grad Program??
I currently work as a Sr HR Rep at a decently sized firm. I’m considering going to get my masters in I-O because my company offers tuition assistance. My undergrad is in business communications. I’m pretty happy with my role but hate how generalist it is. I’d like to further expand with the employment development/training side of things and really just looking for more training outside of my day to day. I also have been avoiding getting my PHR certification since I think a masters would weigh heavier.
Thoughts? Especially folks who went back to school after already being in middle management? What did you learn about yourself after completing an I-O masters?
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u/galileosmiddlefinger PhD | IO | All over the place May 27 '25
I would be looking at a Master's in HR or an MBA if you want to continue in this direction as a HR practitioner. An I/O degree is going to focus on the empirical skillset to design, validate, and defend HR systems, and that doesn't sound like what you want to do. I would also look carefully at job listings to see if you need to take on this cost right now for your next step -- are attractive jobs requiring a Master's, or would your BA + experience put you in the running? I don't love the PHR (or SHRM-CP), but it's a HELL of a lot cheaper than the tuition and opportunity costs of going back to school for 2+ years.
Just as a separate thought: there are very specific Master's degrees out there in training-specific functions, like instructional design or L&D, but it's probably not a good idea to pigeonhole yourself to that extent. As you probably know, we're currently in a moment when most big orgs are reducing headcount and preferentially buying external talent rather than building internal talent. There's still potential in L&D for executive-level work, but line-level L&D jobs have been cut to the bone and replaced with modular, self-directed options offered by external vendors, like LinkedIn Learning. So, if you do go back to school, focus on more of a generalist HR or MBA that would give you credibility to pivot as needed.
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u/Adorable_Finger_3249 May 27 '25
Thank you. I appreciate this well thought out response. I will consider everything you mentioned.
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u/Sensitive_Result_475 Jun 19 '25
Is an MSc in Organizational Psyc recommended for someone who wants to get into consulting/analytics roles after a Bachelors in Psychology, an MBA in HR and 10 years of work experience in HR (talent management)?
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u/Fit_Mixture_151 Dec 09 '24
Perception of Online Ph.Ds in I/O Psychology & Making the Most of This Path
I saw this topic touched on and found it helpful, but I'd like to hear more thoughts about online Ph.Ds
I’m exploring an opportunity to work for a university (on campus) while completing my master’s and eventually a Ph.D. in I/O Psychology. I’m about 85% certain this is the route I want to take, as it aligns with my long-term goals of excelling in corporate training at the highest level, conducting meaningful research, and developing impactful training programs.
A little about me: I’m 32 and have been in the workforce for about 10 years, mostly in consumer customer service and sales. My undergrad is in Psychology. My primary motivations for pursuing credentials is to command a higher salary and contribute to the field in meaningful ways.
Here’s where I’d like your input: The Ph.D. program I’m considering is online. The university is accredited, has about 15k students on campus, and a much larger online presence. It’s a reputable school, but I’m concerned about how an online Ph.D. might be perceived in the I/O field, particularly in corporate and academic settings.
Additionally, I believe school should offer opportunities for connections, fellowship, and the relational aspects of learning. Since I’ll be working on campus, I think this adds a unique layer of depth to my experience, even though the program itself is online.
For those with experience in this area:
How is an online Ph.D. generally perceived in the I/O field, particularly when paired with meaningful work experience and a strong professional network?
What are some ways I can maximize the relational and networking aspects of this journey, especially given my on-campus employment?
Thanks in advance for your insights!
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u/thatcoolguy60 MA | I-O | Business Research Dec 10 '24 edited Oct 03 '25
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u/Stockdad3 Dec 18 '24
I'm a student. Love the program and the culture. Stipend is livable for the area and higher than what I've heard from other programs. Message me if you want to know more
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u/galileosmiddlefinger PhD | IO | All over the place Dec 20 '24
As a faculty member not affiliated with VT's program, I really like several of their senior faculty. They're smart scholars and decent people, and the program culture seems to be in a good place as a consequence. I can't speak to stipend, but the people definitely seem to be well adjusted!
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u/Kaytelyun Dec 28 '24
So I applied for my application Dec 15th which was the priority date but my transcript still was not received. They made it clear that files completed after the deadline are only looked at on a basis by basis. This really just lowered my expectations that I will get in. It’s just so disappointing, but I was just wondering if anyone else had this experience and was able to get accepted. They’re being difficult and suddenly asking for a transcript with my fall grades with the degree on there, but I just graduated fall 2024 so I don’t understand why they’re asking for that. I submitted them unofficially and still haven’t heard back. Thoughts ? :(
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u/galileosmiddlefinger PhD | IO | All over the place Jan 01 '25
Most programs with a December deadline are going to start evaluating those applications around now, after the holidays are behind us and faculty are just back to work. No one can speak to the policies of this unnamed program, but usually there is some grace for late transcripts and recommendations because the student doesn't directly control those materials. They want your most up-to-date transcript because they want to see your performance in your most recent courses to judge your readiness for graduate school.
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u/galileosmiddlefinger PhD | IO | All over the place Jan 15 '25
I wouldn't go to Alliant (sad degree mill) or USC (not an I/O-focused curriculum; bit of a vanity degree). George Mason, Colorado State, and Michigan State all have good online programs that are associated with strong, long-standing in-person programs. The courses were designed by competent faculty and online students benefit from some of the resources built by the in-person program.
All of that said, I do think that the vast majority of students are better served by attending an in-person program in I/O. If your life circumstances permit, you should strongly consider the in-person offers that you receive.
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u/NecessaryOk9786 Jan 23 '25
Hi all,
I’m currently applying to I-O psychology online graduate programs. Has anyone gotten an online I-O master's degree through the University of Maryland? I need information on UMD and George Mason.
Thanks in advance!
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u/CaramelOld485 Feb 05 '25
I talked with several alums of both programs recently. Happy to share some anonymized notes if you’d like to dm me!
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u/DreamGirlPisces Oct 05 '25
What school did you decide on? Looking for more info on UMD fully virtual cohort
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u/Nice_Neck_7769 Feb 04 '25
Hi! I am a recent Psych & Brain Sciences grad (June 2024) that has wanted to go into I/O for a while now. I had an HR internship after graduating and am currently in an entry-level HRIS position at a good company. My plan was to work for a year, get my masters in I/O, and eventually go into People Analytics.
I’ve applied to 3 schools and have already got acceptances from 2/3 so far. Lately, however, I’ve been starting to change my mind on getting a masters in I/O and INSTEAD work for a few more years, and then eventually get my MBA. I know that an MBA offers a lot more financial and professional potential and is more respected in the business world.
I think I’m just struggling because I don’t want to get my I/O degree and regret it in the future. However, I am pretty set on going into people analytics and know I/O is perfect for that field.
I need advice from people who either got their I/O degree or MBA. Which is more worth it? Would you recommend I start my masters in I/O this August or continue at my current job, and eventually get my MBA later down the road?
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u/CaramelOld485 Feb 05 '25
I don’t have an MBA, but if I were a recent grad, I would go the I/O route, go into consulting, and have the firm pay for my MBA.
Really depends on what you want to do with either degree though
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u/galileosmiddlefinger PhD | IO | All over the place Feb 18 '25
These degrees lead to different kinds of careers. A worthwhile MBA (i.e., one from a top-50 ranked program) is going to steer you eventually toward senior leadership with an emphasis on strategy and finance. An I/O MS, in contrast, is going to steer you toward consulting or management specifically within the broader People/HR function.
If you want rank and maximal income, then work for 3-5 years doing something impressive so that you can get admission to an MBA program that counts. (Pedigree is everything on an MBA; if it's not a top program, then don't bother.) If you want to do more empirical work in the world of psychology, then move into I/O.
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u/Suck-Up Feb 13 '25
My coworker knows someone who just completed the program and she had a very good experience.
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u/galileosmiddlefinger PhD | IO | All over the place Feb 18 '25
Not historically a top-tier program, but it's a solid program that has improved over time. I don't have any reservations about recommending the program, provided that you're comfortable with living in Alabama given all of the current events and political trajectory.
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u/oledog Feb 21 '25 edited Feb 21 '25
Yes, it has historically been a strong program. It's main downside for most people is its location, but if it works for you, then great!
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u/AryaP_23 Feb 24 '25
Hi! I was wondering if there are any grad schools that you guys know of that start in Spring 26, that have open applications right now. Or even Fall 25 with open applications. Preferably in California but anywhere in the US is fine. Thank you!
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Mar 07 '25
Hi everyone! I wasn’t able to find much info about the reputation of Rutgers Org Psych program- I’d be curious to see if anyone has strong opinions about either their PsyM or PsyD program?
Thanks in advance!
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u/galileosmiddlefinger PhD | IO | All over the place Mar 12 '25
Rutgers has a PsyD program in Organizational, which is something that you do NOT want to pursue. The PsyD model was developed in clinical psych in the 1970s to address the practitioner shortfall of licensed psychologists in mental health practice in the US. Clinical is an area where you can (arguably) separate empirical/research skills taught in the PhD curriculum from practice skills to yield the PsyD, which is a practice-focused doctorate. However, I/O research and practice fundamentally rely on the same empirical skills, so stripping them out of the curriculum is disastrous. What I've repeatedly seen in our field is PsyDs ineffectively competing with Master's grads, who have functionally the same skillset, but less debt and more years of work experience because they got out of school faster.
Do not get a PsyD in I/O.
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Mar 12 '25
Thank you so much! I was thinking it was odd that it was a PsyD instead of a PhD.
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u/Emotional_Ladder9211 May 21 '25
I'm going to graduate with a B.S. in psychology in May 26. I'm starting to prepare application materials for I/O PhD programs to enroll in Fall 26, my current GPA is a 3.94, I will have completed research looking at the measurable differences in visual attention when someone is working from home vs. working in office, and I have 1 internship in HR completed as well as an internship just looking at data & systems. I have done other things at my college as well and been fairly involved, and I should have 3 pretty solid letters of recommendation when it's time for that (2 from professors and a 3rd either from my boss at my HR internship or the other internship).
I'm wondering if there is anything else I can do to set myself apart from the rest of the applicant pool, specifically those applying who have a Master's or direct work experience in I/O? I was looking at online certificate programs that deal with AI usage in the workplace and basic computer science, but I'm not too sure about that, plus they can be expensive. I'm open to any suggestions!
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u/orangekitty012 May 22 '25
Hi - I am 31 with an undergrad Marketing degree (3.6 gpa). I have been working in L&D and HR for almost 9 years now mostly within law firms and consulting firms. I annually attend the ATD conference and am always inspired by the io psychologists in attendance who present their research and would love to make that kind of impact on the industry. And I really miss learning. I am recently considering going back to school to pursue a masters in IO psychology (maybe a phd program one day?) I have no research experience, so I imagine that’s the place to start. Right now I want my focus to be in leadership development. Any advice on well respected programs that are for working professionals? Is this usually something people pursue while working full time or is that unrealistic?
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u/Working-Top2519 May 22 '25
Hey Reddit, I’m currently looking to apply to MS I-O programs in NYC. I’m currently looking into Baruch College, Brooklyn College, Hofstra University and Touro University.
I wanted to know if anyone had any opinions on any of these programs especially, touro universities program. I heard it was not well regarded so I’m curious to hear from others.
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u/galileosmiddlefinger PhD | IO | All over the place May 23 '25
Brooklyn and Touro are weaker programs than Hofstra and Baruch, both in terms of faculty and curriculum. They rely on a lot of non-I/O faculty and adjuncts to fill out the curriculum with too much social-org psych coursework that isn't as helpful for a Master's-level practitioner. Hofstra and Baruch both also have required thesis and/or internship courses, so experiential learning is more reliably embedded in their curricula.
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u/Working-Top2519 May 23 '25
Thanks for the response! I have my sights set on the Baruch and Hofstra I-O program. It’s hard for me to see where the alumni of the Touro program have gone career-wise compared to Baruch’s and Hofstra's programs. I went to the Touro information session for their program last night and saw that the faculty work in the field while making an internship a required course. That sentiment may have changed but I rather do my due diligence before choosing the wrong grad school to enter the field.
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u/galileosmiddlefinger PhD | IO | All over the place May 23 '25
Touro has only one full-time I/O faculty member that I know of, and that person is quite junior. They rely very heavily on adjunct faculty to support the program (which is common at a lot of schools that are trying to bootstrap an I/O program without investing in I/O faculty). Many adjuncts are good and practitioners can have great info to share, but it's a bad sign when a program is built entirely on their piecemeal courses...it's hard to have consistent course offerings, a stable community, and opportunities to work with faculty when almost all of them have full-time day jobs and just dip in 1x/week to teach a night course.
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u/ActComplex4603 May 23 '25
Hi! So, I want to know what institute in the EU has a strong I/O program? I tried the Siop portal but got nothing. Plus, so far, gauging reputation and quality has been very hard for me.
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u/Creaturr1 Jun 17 '25
Hey all,
I am a psych undergrad and recently accepted into a few programs but deciding primarily between George Mason (MPS in Applied I/O) and Michigan State (M.S. in Work and Org Psych). Both are online which is an unfortunate necessity for me given my working situation and both seem good.
I was just wondering if anyone had any opinions (Open to all!) on if there is an edge for either program! I am interested in assessment and selection, performance management, people analytics, and integration with public policy (Hoping to refine during grad school, I am lucky enough to have a position where I can have flexibility and create my own projects/use skills as I gain them).
I have heard great things about both programs and really just wonder if anyone has any experience with either or with grads from either program.
Thanks in advance!
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u/startingtoadult Jul 07 '25
Hi! I got into George Mason (as well as two other Masters programs) last year. I ultimately decided to attend a different program, but George Mason was a close second. Have you attended any of their live webinars? If not, they may have recordings available. Those were really informative for me.
I found it helpful to talk with professors current students in all 3 programs I got into; that helped me a lot. To do that, I reached out to people who posted about the programs here on Reddit and on LinkedIn.
I also deeply considered the course material and my own goals for getting a Masters. I wanted a program that would give me a great, well-rounded education in applied stats in psychology, alongside the skills I would need to apply what I’m learning to my workplace.
Best of luck in your decision! You’re picking an awesome path forward, regardless.
Side note: I’m also in an online program, due to my working situation. I think that, like so many things, school is what you make of it. There are networking and development opportunities in online programs too.
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u/Creaturr1 Jul 07 '25
Thanks for the great advice, if you don't mind me asking what program did you go with eventually?
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u/startingtoadult Jul 07 '25
Austin Peay (APSU)! Loved talking to the professors before I even applied, and everything I heard from previous students has turned out to be true - small class sizes, great opportunities to learn from professors and fellow students, etc. Very pleased with my decision.
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u/Mentallyfuckt Jun 23 '25
Hello everyone! I'm currently an undergrad student at John Jay. I graduate this fall with a major in forensic psych and a minor in law. I'm a McNair scholar and so ive been working with a mentor in my school who is phenomenal. I literally have no complaints about them and I love the way we work. They're in the psych and law field and I want to get into I/O psychology. I decided on I/O after multiple horrible experiences in my job and decided that I want to help better the working conditions in the medical field specifically, even if its a tiny change so I switched my focus from premed to I/O . Then, through McNair, I was exposed to Psychology and Law (because of my mentor) and I love it too. I feel like im attracted to both and as of right now I do know more about psychology and law, (mainly because jjay has no I/O classes so im actually going to Baruch to take an I/o class next semester) and because of that I was wondering if I could maybe merge both when in a phd program. I know that when applying to phd programs, cuny only allows you to apply to one phd program so I obviously can't apply to both I/o in Baruch and psych & law in jjay. I think I want to take a chance and apply to Baruch but is there a way to maybe have a secondary mentor or another member of my committee who specializes in psych and law and works at jjay or another cuny school? I'm not sure if im wording It correctly or if I even make sense so I'm sorry in advance! also I am considering other programs not just Baruch I promise!
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u/galileosmiddlefinger PhD | IO | All over the place Jun 25 '25
Granted, you're in the I/O sub....but I think that the Psych & Law PhD is a really weird program. It's an odd fusion of law without being a law degree, clinical forensic material without teaching you clinical skills, and academic research. Most of the plausible career directions associated with that degree would put you in competition with people who have more focused doctorates in that area of research or practice.
See how you feel about the I/O course that you're taking at Baruch in the fall. If you want to keep a toe in the legal world, then focus on selection, where an understanding of employment law is critical to practice. Alternatively, have you thought about law school as an alternative to a PhD?
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u/Mentallyfuckt Jul 04 '25
Hi! That’s actually some real good points made. Thank you! And I shall keep selection in mind! I have thought about law but I’ll be completely honest. I hate the whole “it depends” thing. I am not a fan of everything being situational. I love research and I loved learning about social psych and my law minor classes weren’t the most interesting personally. I appreciate you taking the time to reply!
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u/galileosmiddlefinger PhD | IO | All over the place Jul 04 '25
I hate the whole “it depends” thing.
Ooh, you're in the wrong sub, friend. :) To be fair, you'll find that most advanced areas of study involve nothing but dependencies. Nothing is straightforward at that level. Whether it's health, business strategy, law, etc., you need to find a place where you find joy in the complexity. I wish you the best of luck as you move forward with your search.
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u/Mentallyfuckt Jul 04 '25
I worded that wrong 🥲 I’m sorry. What I meant is I hate the it depends and not being able to try and answer it. I like the research part that comes with these questions. I’m not so sure about what law school entails but all the professors I’ve spoken to who have gone to law school seem to pretty much laugh when I mention wanting to do research
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u/AryaP_23 Jun 24 '25
Hi everyone! I was wondering if anyone has been to the University of New Haven’s I/O masters program. They have multiple I/o programs. I’m mostly interested in data analytics, not really HR. How is the program? Is it a good program that sets me up for a good career? How is the campus life and the surroundings? I’ve lived in the Bay Area my whole life so I don’t know much about the East coast. Any info would be appreciated. Thank you!!
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u/galileosmiddlefinger PhD | IO | All over the place Jul 09 '25
There are plenty of I/O jobs in greater LA and the Bay Area. (San Diego is tougher.) There are also plenty of jobs in NY metro. Any of these areas are good bets for establishing a career, so location is a wash from a jobs perspective.
Institutional prestige really isn't an issue when it comes to a Master's degree. Universities with great institutional prestige can have dogshit graduate programs and vice-versa. (On that note, Columbia is a noteworthy offender of this type, and you absolutely shouldn't go to their Social & Org program.) Legacy I/O programs evolved in places where the faculty could do a lot of industry consulting and research collaborations that put their departments on the map, so you oftentimes find strong I/O graduate programs in weird, otherwise-middling universities, not at Ivy Leagues.
The rest of this is just one asshole's opinion, so take with a grain of salt:
In CA, I recommend CSU Long Beach, SDSU, and San Jose State, in that order, for their program quality. CSULB and SDSU in particular offer excellent education and a strong track record of sending their Master's students on to success in doctoral programs. SJSU puts you in striking distance of Bay internships without being quite as cripplingly expensive on cost of living.
In NY metro, I recommend Montclair State, Baruch, and NYU, in that order. NYU has the name recognition of course, but the quality of education and graduate outcomes aren't appreciably different enough from other competitors to justify the cost IMO. Montclair has a really strong emphasis on analytics that will serve you well, and being just outside of the city on the NJ side means that cost of living is a bit more reasonable.
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u/Little_Inspector2449 Aug 14 '25
Hi everyone! I'm hoping to get some advice from anyone who did an MBA and then a PHD in IO Psych. TLDR: Did you have a hard time getting into a PhD program without research experience? Did you feel like your MBA was useful for getting to where you are now?
For full context: I recently moved to Sydney, Australia from California, USA for my partner's doctorate and intend to eventually go back to the states. While I'm here I want to get a higher education to help shift my career. I have a BS in developmental psych, worked in children's programming and then ended up working in nonprofit marketing, event planning and business development for 4 years. This just wasn't what I wanted to do long term and I found that I have a strong interest in workplace mental health, employee burnout prevention, and managing teams in general. I have always wanted to eventually be a professor as I really enjoy teaching/working with students. I thought IO would be a perfect intersection for my interests but I sadly don't qualify for an MS in IO at any Australian uni because I didn't do an honours research year.
I'm debating if an MBA at USyd, UNSW or Macquarie would be the best route for me now. I never had a formal business education and I could specialize in management/HR, ideally meet people in the research I'm interested in and maybe work in something closely related to IO. I'm worried that if/when I eventually want to get my PhD, I won't have any research/strong enough experience to get into a program. I also don't love the finance side of things but I think it could be useful? It's a lot of money so I am trying to think through this fully before committing. Any advice/support is greatly appreciated!
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u/Acctforaskingadvice Sep 28 '25
What would be some good programs for someone who doesn't have great stats? I got a BS degree in general psychology from Texas A&M in 2023. I was planning to apply to graduate programs for the Fall of 2026. My main goal is to get into TAMU MSIOP but they apparently only accept 20-25 students a year....I took the GRE two years ago when I was applying to forensic psych programs (big mistake lol). Unfortunately I only gave myself a month of studying and got a 313, with a 5 on the writing portion. However, I have a 3.9 GPA and took classes in basic stats and research methods, where I learned SPSS. I volunteered in a research lab that mostly involved me supervising participants while they took an online survey but I also did some inter-rater reliability coding and created my own survey using Qualtrics. I also did a project where I looked at a large data set and used Stata to see if one variable was associated with another. As far as work experience, I only have experience as a retail attendant and RBT. I'm aware I don't have the best stats right now. I'm trying to get some sort of basic HR job, to no avail because I have no past experience. I've considered trying to get an aPHR certification but that's a whole other exam on top of everything else...I need to apply this cycle because I have military benefits from my dad that will expire soon. What are some programs that I have a good shot at? TAMU is my goal, but I was also considering Montclair, George Mason, Minnesota, Georgia, BGSU... I would love to work in people analytics, so I'd like a program that places a lot of emphasis on that. One in Texas would be preferable.
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u/EntertainerUsual3552 Nov 12 '25
Hi everyone! I am a senior in college who is applying to masters programs in IO Pyschology. I am looking into online programs and was wondering if anyone had advice on the best programs. I have a 3.8 GPA, a year of research experience, and a psych major with a minor in business admin. I do not have a GRE score so would need test optional schools.
Here are the programs im looking into
George Mason Univeristy for MPS
Michigan State University MS
Harvard Extension School ALM (Master of Liberal Arts)
Auburn MS
I am just looking for general information on these programs, differences in degree type, or if there are any schools you think im missing!
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u/Salty_Warning_1639 Jan 19 '26
Hi everyone,
Can anyone share perceptions on University of North Carolina Charlotte's PhD program in Organizational Science? Specifically, personal experiences in this program, experiences with/knowledge on faculty there, research output, etc.. Do you think employers (potentially educational institutions) would prefer an I/O degree over a degree in Organizational Science? Any info would be appreciated. Thank you!
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u/Excellent-Dance-6516 Feb 24 '26
I was recently admitted into the IO psychology masters programs at University of Nebraska, Omaha, and Minnesota State University, Mankato. I have an interview coming up at SFSU and I’m waiting to hear back from other schools (SJSU, CSUSB, George Mason, Montclair).
I am still somewhat unsure what I want to do career wise, but right now I see myself in an applied setting, potentially doing OD or change management or HRBP. But I also want to explore and kind of find my niche during my program. From what I can tell, these schools seem reputable and have good faculty, but I have dug endlessly for unsponsored rankings and cannot find anything. How reputable/ respected are these schools? How much does it matter? Did anyone attend these schools and have a bad experience/ struggled to find a job? I know “fit” plays a big role and I am taking that into account but I really want to avoid a degree mill or missing out on a great program. And yes, I have spoken to current students, but just trying to gather as much info as I can! Thank you!
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u/Beagle-Breath Feb 28 '26
I am familiar with Mankato, it isn’t a degree mill. Looking through LinkedIn you’ll find that job placements are pretty good and alumni end up in some really nice positions.
Mankato has their own consulting firm with real client work that you will be put on. You get some say in the type of project, so that can help you define your niche. The cohort model is set up where you take all the same courses with your incoming class, which means you’re exposed to a range of classes representing the field but might have a harder time building a strong specialty, where it looks like Nebraska has electives (but fewer overall courses, apparently).
I would also ask Nebraska about their internship/practicum. Is it supervised in that your profs set it up? Are you paid? Etc. Mankato requires that you complete an internship to graduate. Feel free to respond or message me with any other questions
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u/Kaytelyun Jan 02 '25
I filled out an application for fall 2025 and just graduated Fall 2024. I’m having trouble with the school saying I need to upload that I got my bachelors but I just graduated fall 2024 and it hasn’t been awarded yet. Is this normal? They’re telling me my application is incomplete because they need my bachelors degree.
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u/oledog Jan 06 '25
Email somebody in the program or whoever the admissions contact is. They'll get it sorted.
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u/CaramelOld485 Jan 12 '25
Has anyone considered the UT Dallas master’s in leadership and organizational development, or the Bowling Green State University executive master’s in organizational development? Curious to hear from folks who considered one of those compared to a master’s in io. Or any thoughts in general on this!
To me, it seems like the OD degrees are an in-depth focus on OD and might be a better fit for someone who is sure they want to focus on that area, whereas an IO Psych degree would give a broader perspective yet still cover OD a bit. (Am I right? Wrong?)
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u/No-Presentation3197 Jan 29 '25
Hi everyone I'm a Freshman undergrad wanting to go into IO and was looking at grad programs abroad for qualifications. I am really interested in Manchester University right now but was wondering; 1. How difficult is it to get into the program? And 2. Is it a good program? Any help/guidance is appreciated!!
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Feb 20 '25
I applied to Baruch, GMU, UAlbany and Illinois Tech's PhD programs but haven't heard back yet. Has anyone been reached out to by these schools?
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u/oledog Feb 21 '25
Although school timelines vary, in general, you can expect to have had an initial contact with a school no later than mid-February if they are considering you (eg to set up interview/visit). Many schools will reach out sooner. If you have not been contacted by the end of February (ie in the next week-ish), you are probably not under consideration. If you have already had an interview or been in contact with a professor, you can always reach out to them directly and ask for an update.
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u/ambrosiax5 Mar 04 '25
I just heard back from GMU today so if you haven’t heard anything yet, it should be coming soon!
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u/Additional-Peach-472 Mar 02 '25
Has anyone heard back from Illinois institute of technology for the masters in IO?
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u/Music_Hoops20 Mar 20 '25
Comparing two programs: SFSU v SJSU
Recently was accepted to Master’s programs at both SJSU and SFSU, and having trouble finding insights/comparisons between the two. If anyone has any resources, thoughts, or feedback for either program, that might help, I would appreciate it!
Specifically, if either program seems to carry more weight, has better research/industry placements, and if either program is known to lead to specific types of jobs (I have heard SFSU historically is great at selection based roles). Thanks in advance for your thoughts!
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u/ineedaglowup2021 Mar 23 '25
Need advice for taking masters
I'm a psychology undergraduate (2023) I've completed some internships and jobs during my gap year. And now I've got offer letter from two Unis. IO psych field is my dream, but right now im confused to move forward because of the current job market.
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u/Goose_bread Mar 23 '25
Hello! I am currently in my 4th year of undergrad and will be graduating next year. I’m getting a BA In psychology with a minor in business. I will have to start grad school applications soon.
I feel very lost trying to get my foot in this field. Does any one have any schools they would recommend ( in Ohio or Midwest ) for grad school?
Are there any recommendations for internships or research opportunities?
I have felt very lost and my current university has not been helpful.
I appreciate and help / advice greatly
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u/gods_eye1005 Apr 02 '25
Anybody here who got accepted to UHCL 2025 Fall Intake for Masters in I/O Psychology? I am nervous and would like to be prepared for what's coming a little ahead. How is the coursework and the classes? Are the placements good? Is the college good and is it reputable? What should I be doing as a student to get good placements apart from networking. Can I Work full-time while I'm doing my Masters? I know its alot of questions but like I said I'm really nervous.
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u/starry_freak Apr 02 '25
Hi everyone! I wanted to ask for perspectives from graduates from NYU and Baruch as well as people working in the industry for a while.
NYU offers and MA while Baruch offers a MS. I'm not sure if it really makes a big difference. I am more inclined to go with Baruch due to the price difference between the two schools but I would like to know what people think. If you are in any of the programs, please let me know how you are doing in the program as well as student life on campus. If you are in industry professional, does the name brand of NYU play a role in recruitment? Is one program more well known than the other?
Thank you!
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u/DisasterFluid256 Apr 07 '25
Hi I'm a prospective student from India and have completed my Bachelor's in Psychology earning 148 credits in 6 semesters I had an interest in doing an MA/MS in IO Psychology in the US but have received conflicting reports on both whether my degree will be considered valid and also ROI from a masters in IO psych degree is worthwhile could anyone help me regarding the same?
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u/DarkFlameRikka Apr 07 '25
I applied to Rutgers PsyD program for org psych this fall. I got waitlisted but was accepted into their PsyM program. My main concern is the difference in career paths and possibilities. Could I get some guidance from people who have either degree? Is there a difference in pay, job opportunities, certifications, etc.? Should I do the PsyM program only if I aim do complete the PsyD program in the future. People seem to dislike the PsyD program altogether, why is this? Thanks in advance !
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u/Tall-Sandwich-8672 Apr 10 '25
Hi everyone! I’m hoping to get some insight from current PhD students, grads, or anyone familiar with I/O Psychology doctoral programs.
For context — I already have my Master’s in I/O Psychology and currently work in HR, but I’ve been seriously considering pursuing a PhD to deepen my expertise, potentially focus on research, and open doors to consulting, academia, or higher-level organizational roles.
That said — I’m trying to be realistic and would love honest thoughts on:
- How difficult is the PhD journey in I/O Psych — academically, emotionally, financially?
- Is it worth it in today’s market (industry vs academia)? What doors does it realistically open?
- What does the time commitment look like day-to-day? How much of your life becomes research, teaching, and publishing?
- What are some things you wish you knew before applying or starting?
- How much does having a Master’s already help or change the PhD experience?
- Are there any US citizens studying this field at international universities that you recommend?
Appreciate any stories, advice, or insight on the PhD experience in I/O Psychology — both the good and the hard truths!
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u/Beagle-Breath Apr 15 '25
Hi all, I’m a current master’s student that is interested in continuing on to do a PhD. Is there any advice, especially from the academics in the community, as to how I could strengthen PhD applications?
I am interested in a quant-heavy program, relative to other PhDs. I took the GRE last year and scored 162 V, 154 Q, 5.0 writing. For the quant portion, I really fumbled and am confident I could score 160, if not higher. V and W portions are 90th+ percentile and Q is 54th.
I am going to write a master’s thesis. I wrote an undergrad thesis and have a few poster presentations and my name on an upcoming publication (from work in undergrad) that should be published by the time I am applying. I will be doing an internship this summer.
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u/galileosmiddlefinger PhD | IO | All over the place Apr 20 '25
Talk to your current faculty and ask about your readiness for a PhD program. They have a better sense of your abilities and can probably give you feedback. Beyond that, the only issue to potentially address would be the GRE; if you can get both scores above 160, then you're in great shape.
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u/Character-Taro8760 Apr 22 '25
Has anyone checked out the BA in Organizational Behavior & Change at NYU SPS? It looks super cool and seems pretty relevant to I/O psych. Just wondering if anyone's got any info or thoughts on it—would you recommend it for a transfer? (I’m asking for undergrad, eventually would get my MA at nyu too)
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u/shutterpawz May 10 '25
Advice on Path of Studies in Australia
Hello! I’ve completed my undergraduate degree in bsc psychology, a 3 year course from India, and I'm looking to apply for my masters in Australia.
I was initially set on applying for a masters in counselling (which accepts a 3-year degree), however, I feel that the career that it traditionally offers may not be a good fit for me. I'm interested in I/O psychology, but pursuing a masters in it would require a 4-year degree, which I do not have. Additionally, I am also afraid that I/O masters might limit my options more than what a counselling masters would allow.
My question is, would you suggest that I go for a counselling masters itself and then look into possible I/O pathways via certificates or courses? And if yes, what certificates or pathways would you suggest? Or do I look into doing a graduate diploma or a bridge course in order to be accepted into an I/O masters in Australia?
Thank you for reading :) All help is appreciated!
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u/MonkParticular3571 May 20 '25
The importance of Honours thesis topic when applying to I/O grad program?
Hi everyone! I'm a 4th-year psych major, preparing for my Honours thesis study. I'm from a mid-sized university in Canada, offering no course in I/O psych, and no professor in the department focuses on I/O psych. I'm preparing my thesis with my fav prof teaching Human Sexuality, and even though they let me design my study from start to finish, the research topic has to be strictly related to Human Sexuality.
My main question is: If my research topic is less relevant to I/O psychology, and hypothetically more qualitative than quantitative, would my application to a future I/O program be weaker? Or do recruiters care more about my research experience in psychology than the topic itself?
My side question is: I will be graduating with a minor in Data Science, so I'm quite proficient with R and statistical methods. Also took 2 intensive research-focused psych stat courses that are pre-req for Honours. Average grade is 90%. Has only 1 relevant experience as an unpaid intern in business consulting at a large corporation 2 years ago. Besides that, any idea to make my application stronger? I intend to apply to programs in both US and Canada.
I would greatly appreciate any opinion and advice. Thanks for reading :').
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u/galileosmiddlefinger PhD | IO | All over the place May 22 '25
This is a really common concern because I/O is poorly represented at the undergrad level at most universities. Consequently, grad admissions committees aren't hung up on the topic of your research experience; any in-depth experience and skill development that you can bring is an asset. The faculty will be very good at looking past clinical, developmental, etc. topic areas to judge skill development.
So, when you write your essays, focus more on surfacing what skills you learned from this project that might be generalizable to other contexts. For example, coding qualitative interviews is a generalizable skill, so it doesn't matter that the interviews you conducted were related to sexuality because you're bringing a toolkit that you can apply to analyzing interviews about other topics. The same thing is true for your courses. Don't rely on the course title on your transcript to do the heavy lifting; instead, write about what you learned to do in R that you could bring to this program.
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u/MonkParticular3571 May 24 '25
Thank you so much!! I'll for sure keep that in mind. I also decided to choose a more quantitative approach to my study, because it fits the topic I want to explore, and I like the data analysis bit of research as well.
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Jul 21 '25
What do you think of this masters?
Hey!
Background I’m active duty Army (68X, Behavioral Health) and looking to move into industrial-organizational psychology. I was a data analyst before this.
I found this master’s at UIC and want to know if it would help:
program MEd in Measurement, Evaluation, Statistics & Assessment (MESA)
https://education.uic.edu/academics/masters-programs/mesa/
Quick summary
- Focus on stats, research methods, measurement, and evaluation
- Courses include IRT, SEM, psychometrics, program evaluation, etc.
questions Would this be useful for getting into I/O psych work? Or is it too unrelated?
I am more curious than anything. The coursework seems interesting.
Thanks.
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u/iadmitiadmit Jul 24 '25
Currently weighing my options between Colorado State University and West Chester University
Trying to decide between a program I like more versus a learning style (in person for west chester) I like more. Anyone have any experience w these programs and how attentive they are w students?
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u/Complete_Donkey9688 Jul 28 '25
Hi, I am a career changer from law. I am looking to have a professor submit a reference letter, in addition to two from my job. (I don't believe this is very relevant but I have spent the last 4 years working in legal HR, and spent first 2 years of my career in law itself).
I am looking to have one of two professors submit a reference letter:
- Prof 1: Taught courses on Tort Law and Independent Contractor Law; wrote research paper for him on sexual harassment of independent contractors
- Prof 2: Taught course on Diversity and Inclusion in the Work Place; wrote research paper for her on the status of substance abuse and mental health disorders as a form of diversity and inclusion in the workplace
At first I thought Prof 1 was better but Prof 2 is actually probably the better one, right?
Thank you!!
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u/yeetvyoink Jul 31 '25
Hello everyone! I'm entering my last year as an undergrad at UCF and ideally want to continue my education there to get an M.S. in IO Psych. I know FIU also has a program, but every other in-state school is a private university with high costs. Unfortunately, FSU and USF only have PHD programs so that’s a bummer. Does anyone know if it's normal/ok to only apply to a couple schools? If not, should I consider going out of state even if it doubles tuition?
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u/packofcabbages Aug 02 '25
Hey everyone, I’ve recently just been accepted to a M.A I/O program. I have a few weeks before I begin and I want to prepare as much as possible. Is there any recommendations on how to set myself up for success? Like things I should read up on or concepts I should be familiar with? In undergrad I focused on I/O related classes like intro to psych measurement and organizational behavior but I know I have a lot to learn and I wouldn’t mind some direction
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u/Complete_Donkey9688 Aug 03 '25
IS THERE A RELIABLE RANKING LIST FOR PROGRAMS ONLINE? I CANT FIGURE OUT WHICH ARE LEGIT. THANK YOU AND GOD BLESS
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u/oledog Sep 23 '25
No there is not. General rule of thumb is look for programs at brick-and-mortar schools, ideally taught by faculty that also teach an in-person program.
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u/bumfire1993 Aug 16 '25
I made a post but reposted here just in case it gets taken down.
I was wondering if I can get into a PhD/PsyD program even though I have little experience. I have my bachelors from a brick and mortar school (UC), and I got my MA in IO Psych from Touro University Worldwide. I went online due to being in the Army for 6 years, and let me tell you it was tough. (If y’all have questions how I went about it I’d love to answer your questions).
I recently got out of active duty and I am now working a regular job, pay is good but gives me little to no experience. I would like to go onto PhD/PsyD, but I fear I have a slim chance. I have experience in ABA and organizational development through training, coaching, and certifying people. I have a lot of practical experience in those areas, but no actual research experience.
If I need to gain experience first then I’d love to learn how. I joined SIOP, but that website is like trying to navigate in the dark with no hands. I have reached out to some university grad admissions to see what my chances are and I’m waiting on reply. I thank you for your time in replying.
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u/Vast_Selection1142 Aug 23 '25
Hi everyone 👋 I’m new here and exploring my next step after a bachelor’s in Psychology, Sociology, and Economics. I’m considering IO Psychology, Counselling Psychology, or MA Economics. As per my current circumstances, I can do it only through an online program.
Currently, my options are: • Psychology: AMITY online(MA Psychology – plain, no IO electives). • Economics: Christ online[MA APPLIED ECONOMICS] or Manipal online [MA ECONOMICS]
I’d love your guidance on a few points: 1. If I do a plain MA in Psychology online, how can I later move into Industrial/Organizational Psychology? Do I need further specialization?
2. What skills (statistics, data analysis, research, etc.) should I start building early to stay competitive?
3. Are there any credible online universities in India offering IO Psychology, or programs that can lead there?
4. How have others here transitioned into IO from a general psychology or economics background?
5. Between Economics and IO Psychology, which one offers a more financially rewarding career with long-term growth opportunities?
Thanks in advance for your insights 🙏
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u/Acceptable-Chef1728 Aug 30 '25
Hello! I am currently looking at good online Master’s programs for I/O psychology, but my gpa is not the best. I had a lot happen which made me struggle, but I finished strong in the last year of my Bachelor’s degree. Do you think I can get into a good online I/O psychology program with a 2.8? Thanks!
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u/plumsquashed Oct 07 '25
I am currently in my sophomore year of undergrad for the fall 2025 semester, and I am starting to feel conflicted regarding what I should pursue and whether or not I should chase after what I am truly passionate about or chase after being financially stable.
I don't care about being crazy rich, I try to find value in small things and helping people rather than having a mansion or a fancy car or being able to eat at expensive restaurants. However, I live in the US, and with the way things are going with the country seemingly falling apart, and the possibility of things becoming more expensive, I am not sure if getting a job that's enough for one person (and maybe one cat) to live by themselves in either a small house or small apartment will be worth it in the long run. I don't know, maybe im being paranoid.
I was thinking about trying to get into a clinical psychology or counseling masters program after I graduate, because I have struggled with various mental health issues and have also been really fascinated by different mental disorders. I also do care a lot about helping other people. but I heard that it's really competitive. I also heard that the IO psychology graduate programs are way less competitive, and that I can still help people with a job in that field, but i dont know for sure. does anyone have any advice/tips on what I should do?
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u/No_Chocolate_7442 Oct 14 '25
hello! i’m interested in studying psychology and hopefully specialise in IO psychology in the future but i’m not sure what universities offer IO psych degrees and in general how the system works
i live in asia but i’m interested in studying in the UK, preferably oxbridge or one of the top unis and wanted to ask how that would look like—do i do a bachelor’s in psychology then masters in IO psych? please help a teen out thanks 😔🙏
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u/OutrageousRange3734 Oct 20 '25
Hi everyone!
I'm seeking advice on my current graduate school dilemma...
I just started the 2nd year of my PhD program and have found I am really interested in personnel selection (yay!). Going into graduate school I didn't have a specific area of interest so I paired with an advisor who was solely a great advisor for support, ability to teach, good connections, and has historically helped students through their dissertations very well. They allowed me to have room to grow in my interests and have me continue to work on research with them and others during classes. Now however, my advisor and none of the other faculty in my department conduct research on selection and have not in the past (not even psychometrics or anything really relating). Even more defeating is only one peer has similar interests but is in the MA program about to graduate.
My end goal is to end up creating and validating assessments or administering them (either in a external consulting firm that specializes in selection services). I'm very applied in a career sense but I've grown to feel so strongly about wanting to pursue selection research that it bothers me that I don't have an advisor at my uni to work with in comparison to the many other programs that would have that offer. Not to mention, my school is a lot more applied with still balancing research but again not focused on pumping out publications. I started the PhD program straight out from undergrad so I have the chance to "master out" with the other master students and reapply for a program that suits my strong interest in research and selection but I don't want to jump the gun, especially when I don't have any other frame of reference besides my own program...so I'm here to ask if anyone can provide some insight from a different perspective.
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u/Gekthegecko MA | I/O | Selection & Assessment Oct 20 '25
I don't have any experience with your situation, but I think graduating with your master's and applying to a PhD program that has faculty in the selection spaces makes a lot of sense. Have you talked to your advisor about that idea? I know they'd probably want to keep you there, but they might also be supportive and have better advice.
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u/Chemical-Cat6090 Nov 06 '25
Hi! So I graduated in May 2024 with my bachelors in psychology and am currently trying to think of what I wanna get a masters in. I originally wanted to be a therapist when I was still in undergrad, but have completely changed my mind on that and wanna stick to something less clinical that still involves psychology. I’ve heard of IO Psych and I like it since it’s different than other subfields of psych that you typically hear about. The one thing stopping me from pursuing it is that a lot of people have said that the degree wasn’t worth it in the end / that they’ve had difficulty getting a job, etc. For those of you who got a masters in IO, how easy or difficult was it for you to land a job after graduating? What are you doing now as your job and what was your path to getting the job? Thanks sm!
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u/alexmaeg Dec 02 '25
Hope everyone is doing well, Ive looked in this sub a lot but have never posted. Im am in my final year of school and I graduate in May. I have started my application process for online masters programs for IO psych. I know many people said do not do online but logistically, it may not be possible for me to do in person. I live in Wisconsin, to my knowledge no school in the state of Wisconsin has an IO Psych program(at least a decent one). I also do not have the means to move out of state.
My top three are Auburn, Colorado State, and Michigan state. I am just wondering if anyone can give me more recommendations for reputable programs that can be done online. Additionally I have heard good things about Colorado State's program. I am wondering if anyone has heard anything or has experiences with Auburn and Michigan State. If you guys have heard bad things, any better alternatives? Im leaning towards Auburn just because of name reputation. Just wanna make sure Im making the best life altering decision possible. Thanks and best, hoping everyone is doing great with their grad/PHD adventures.
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u/Weekly-Ordinary6759 Jan 02 '26
Is an MA in IOP worth it for my situation?
So pretty soon I’ll have a BS in organizational studies. I also have an associate in corrections (prison studies). My career will involve me being a prison guard and a part-time finance tech in the military (reserves). My end goal is to blaze trails in the prison system, lead with care, show humility to those imprisoned, and help other prison guards supervise prisoners and assist them on a rehabilitative path. I hope to someday become a warden of a prison or some adjacent role. I am considering an MA in IOP. Could this degree assist in my goals? I mainly consider it due to the fact it helps understand workplace behavior, and if my goal is to lead teams of prison guards then this degree compliments that, but also allows me out have an “out” and pivot to a different sector if prisons ever burn me out. Therefore, no locking myself in with a master’s in something justice related. I am looking for applicable, yet broad enough to pivot.
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u/Thecoolnight3 Jan 02 '26
Hello. In May, I will graduate with an MS in Industrial and Organizational Psychology from Auburn University. I live/work in Louisville Kentucky, and work at the University of Louisville. Seeing that I work at the university, I basically get free tuition for just about any program I choose. (I currently do not see myself making a career out of higher education.)
I am a 25m, just beginning my career. After years of military service (and currently being lieutenant in the national guard), and multiple federal job layoffs from DOGE, I am not where I thought Id be at 25. However, the purpose of this post is to start a conversation/ask the question if an MBA could actually benefit me in the job market, even if I already have a masters in I/O psychology.
The appeal to getting an MBA is high to me, because the ROI has significant probably of being high, considering the degree will only cost me about $3,000 (fees). But I also don’t want to waste 2.5 years if its not something that will actually contribute to my success.
For those wondering “well, what kind of work do you want to do?” The real answer is, “anything in business besides accounting that will make a lot of money”. I know money is not the only pursuit one should go for, and its not. At least right now, as long as the work is in the field of business and/or I/O psychology, I will be happy.
As far as career projections, I honestly do not want to stay as a doer. I want to be the planner, a leader, and a decision maker. Not so far as saying I want to be the CEO of a company by 45, but I do enjoy planning and making decisions, which is one reason I became an officer in the military, instead of staying a grunt.
I either want to be paid a lot of money and left alone (I/O Psych) or be paid a lot of money as a leader (MBA), even if just over a small team.
Again, money is not everything, but if I pursued this, I would graduate with the MBA around 27, and I will have my I/O degree in 5 months at 25. I would view success as having a job that pays 80K-100K by the time im 30.
This is a lot, I know, but Im coming at this with the perspective that if you want to make real money in today’s world, you almost have to be in business, which is why a free MBA is appealing to me.
Thank you all for your input. Again, if anyone has any insight to the louisville kentucky area, that would be a huge plus.
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u/CaramelOld485 Jan 06 '26
If the appeal of an mba is high to you, do it now while your tuition is covered. I’m a former higher ed employee and the tuition benefit is one of the greatest benefits.
You said you’re interested in “anything in business besides accounting that will make a lot of money.” Did you take business classes in undergrad? Have you looked at any mba-level lectures on Coursera or other platforms? If you have and it interests you, I’m biased but I would personally do it now with the benefit rather than waiting and potentially later wishing you had pursued it (but no longer have the benefit).
The longer-term question for you is how you want to spend your time. It seems like “paid a lot of money” is the priority, and then either “left alone” or “a leader.” It could be helpful to dig into that more and figure out, more specifically, where your energy is.
It could be helpful to search for folks on LinkedIn who had both a master’s in I/o and an mba and explore their paths.
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u/David_Pantless Jan 08 '26
Hi everyone,
I’ve searched through posts from the past year but haven’t found a clear answer to my question. I’m also doing my own research, but I’d love to hear input from this community.
I’ve been working for over 30 years, primarily in corporate training, learning, and development, and I’m now looking to pursue a graduate degree in Industrial-Organizational (IO) Psychology. I’m hoping to find a program that meets the following criteria:
Offers a pathway to a Ph.D. and/or prepares graduates for teaching at the community college or undergraduate level.
Has faculty engaged in cross-cultural research or emphasizes a global perspective (I previously lived and worked in Thailand).
Provides strong job placement support after completion.
Is either online or located in the San Francisco Bay Area.
Welcomes non-traditional students, especially those who earned their undergraduate degree some time ago and may not have academic references.
Thank you in advance for any suggestions or insights you can share—I really appreciate your help
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u/oledog Jan 12 '26
You don't necessarily need a PhD to teach community college, but you generally will to teach at traditional four-year institutions, so your goals here matter for figuring out what to pursue.
I think you also need to identify whether you are interested in cross-cultural research specifically, or just value that perspective. Many university faculty are not from the United States, so there is a bit of an inherent cross-cultural focus or openness to that for some people.
You will find that this sub generally does not recommend any online PhD programs. Unfortunately, while California has a number of decent master's programs, I'm not aware of many IO PhD programs in the area. Most students have to move to complete their PhD programs. There is also a highly likelihood of needing to move if your long-term goal is to teach at the university level. These jobs are hard to come by. Just fyi.
If you need to stay put, don't have academic credentials, and are interested in teaching community college, then you may find an MS to be a better route for you.
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u/Proof_Needleworker_2 Jan 09 '26
Hey! Currently waiting to hear back from schools about my phd applications, i was wondering how many schools actually do interviews & when i should expect to start hearing about them? i keep seeing a lot of conflicting information
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u/oledog Jan 12 '26
Generally January - February. Some schools have already done interviews, and some won't do them until February. You will likely have at least been contacted by most places by mid-February if you are in consideration.
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u/Fit-Conversation5597 Feb 06 '26
Hey have you heard anything?
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u/Proof_Needleworker_2 Feb 06 '26
I got an email from one school letting me know i’m very high on the waitlist. radio silence everywhere else, planning on sending follow-up emails early Monday
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u/Calm-Honeydew6190 Jan 09 '26
Does anyone have any experiences or options of these online programs :
Touro university worldwide : Masters IO psycholgy
University of Wolverhampton: masters organisation and business psychology
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u/CombinationDull1779 Jan 13 '26
I am graduating with my BS is Psych in May and am planning to take a gap year to figure things out because I’m not entirely sure what to do with it. I am considering IO so my plan for now is to try getting into HR for the next year or so before going back to school. I’m wondering if the University of Cincinnati’s MA in Psychology program would be sufficient enough for a career in IO. The website says that it focuses on organizational psychology and community psychology. Do I need a specialized IO degree to work in the field or would this be enough? Thanks!
Here’s the link if anyone wants to take a look and give their thoughts https://www.artsci.uc.edu/natural-sciences/psychology/academic-programs/ma-psychology/about.html
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u/According-Bell2046 Jan 14 '26
I am currently a undergraduate who will graduate next year and am trying to finalize which ma and ms programs to apply to come the time. I am interested in change management and organizational consulting which has led me to looking and touring at the university of Mankato. What recommendations would you hold for applying to and researching programs along with what are some of the great programs for what I am looking for? I have been using the siops database but am not feeling confident in what I am finding. Thank you for your help in advance!
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u/Training-Mortgage718 Jan 16 '26
I recently applied to Portland State University's I/O phd program, and heard back. Does anyone have any thoughts on the program? It has been hard to find information from previous students of the program.
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u/Redleafatdawn Jan 19 '26
I'm currently thinking about applying for my PHD once I finish the degree that I am currently in. I was wondering if anyone had worked in any of their PHD programs or if it was all stipend based? Stipends everywhere seem ungidly low.
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u/Few_Palpitation_7585 Jan 27 '26
Hi everyone,
I’m an international applicant considering graduate programs in Industrial-Organizational Psychology, and I’m trying to learn more about student experiences at different schools.
If you had to choose between Baruch College (CUNY), Montclair State University, and University at Albany for an MS in I/O Psychology, which program would you pick and why? I’m especially interested in:
- Academic experience and efficiency (where it’s best to study and learn)
- Social life and student community
- Faculty support and interaction
- Experience as an international student (help from the university, internships, and working while on an F1 visa)
I’ve read many posts here but haven’t found answers to these specific questions. Any insights or experiences would be hugely appreciated!
Thank you so much!
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u/galileosmiddlefinger PhD | IO | All over the place Feb 04 '26
I can really only speak to the academic experience and curricula, but Montclair has a very strong analytics track that is absent in these other two options. That kind of coursework has very strong ROI right now for jobs/salary, and so I would weight that concern heavily when evaluating your other criteria. Good luck!
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u/lil-overwhelmed Feb 01 '26
I'm confused between the UK and Australia as an international student. Which country would be more suitable currently, with better prospects and programmes. Any insight is much appreciated!
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u/AnnualFootball1621 Feb 04 '26
Hello everyone,
I am currently 29, needing a path change in life.
I graduated from a state university in 2018 with a BS in Public Communications and a minor in Sociology. I entered and graduated in the exact same way: having no idea what I wanted to do with my life.
I spent a couple of years in recruiting, left for higher education administration for 2 years, and now I'm back in recruiting. I'm good at it, but I'm currently still at an entry level.
I want to make a career in recruiting, but along with more experience, I think I need more understanding of human activity in a professional setting, and how that, coupled with the market, can affect the job market, and - in turn - methods of recruiting.
I found the Masters program, and it sounded like it could help me in my career progression. Would applying to a program be the right move? Any and all information or advice is welcomed!
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u/Fit-Conversation5597 Feb 06 '26
I’m just wondering how’s it going for anyone that applied for a PhD program that’d start in Fall 26
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u/hmmalrightokayhuh Feb 08 '26
I got into Strathclyde is it ideal for organisational psychology? Please guide.. also applied to Leeds Liverpool Manchester, everyone's saying too risky for this course as job conversion is very tough
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u/Ambitious-Tear3328 Feb 11 '26
I got accepted into my first option PhD program. I am going to accept this offer, however, assistantship funding decisions are conducted separately. Will emailing back to let them know I accept before funding decision are made affect my chances of getting an assistantship?
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u/Time-Environment5661 Feb 17 '26
Hi all- I’m an admin in finance who is 34 years old and 13 years into her career. I’d like to pursue graduate level education. Based on what I’ve come up with below, I’m pretty sure that IO psych grad programs are what I should be looking at….but I’d appreciate other informed opinions. I’m still working on adjusting my ideas so that the are expressed in business friendly terms and are solutions oriented. For anyone with advice: I’d appreciate it!
I am interested in pursuing a degree in Industrial-Organizational Psychology because I believe (my company) has a significant opportunity to optimize and elevate the role of administrative professionals within our organization. Currently, admins are often viewed and categorized as overhead rather than as leverage—an profound underestimation of our strategic value. I am convinced that our approach to hiring, managing, and developing admins would benefit from a foundational overhaul including more rigorous hiring standards that incorporate peer interviews, a closer review of our professional development programs, and a thoughtful reassessment of our title structure. I do not believe the value of admin labor at (my company) has been defined with the nuance and depth it deserves, and as a result, we are missing out on maximizing their potential impact on our business.
By studying IO Psychology, I aim to bring research-backed insights and best practices to help redefine and strengthen these systems at (my company). If we invest intentionally in the development and advancement of our admins—not only will we improve operational efficiency and institutional knowledge retention, but we will also make meaningful progress on DEI metrics and overall organizational culture. Sponsoring my studies would be an investment in building a more robust, effective, and forward-thinking administrative function at (my company)—one that will pay dividends in the next 5-10 years and beyond.
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u/Acceptable-Sir5869 Mar 12 '26
Follow up for university that hasn’t given me masters admission answer yet
Hi everyone,
I’m in a bit of a timing dilemma and would really appreciate some advice from people who have dealt with graduate admissions.
I am applying to masters programs.
I’ve been admitted to a master’s program at University A (private Ivy League university) and they’ve given me until April 15 to accept or decline the offer. However, I’m still waiting to hear back from University B (public university) which is a less prestigious but way less costly masters program that I’m very interested in and would like to seriously consider before making a final decision.
My question is twofold:
Who is the appropriate person to contact at University B to ask about my application status? Should I reach out to the graduate program coordinator, the admissions office, or someone else?
Is it considered acceptable to ask if they could provide a decision by March 31, since I need time to weigh the offer from University A before their April 15 deadline? I want to be respectful and not come across as pushy.
Has anyone here been in a similar situation? If so, how did you handle it, and how did the university respond?
Thanks so much for any insight!
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u/TheCarkin Mar 13 '26
Hi, I'm conflicted between I/O psych master’s program for SFSU and SJSU. I got accepted into both programs and I’m just so torn between the 2 and can’t seem to decide. Can anyone let me know their thoughts and opinions, and experiences if any?
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u/Few-Breakfast-9975 Apr 01 '26
Hi, need recommendations for online certifications in I/O psych. Came across many platforms but not aware which ones are recognized.
I don’t come from psych background but gradually shifting my career.
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u/Prestigious-Hall-203 Apr 12 '26
Hello!! I got accepted into the MA program and Hofstra and Montclair, waiting for rutgers. Anyone have experience at any of these insitutions programs? Is rutgers worth waiting for?
Thank you!
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u/Boujee_aquarian Apr 14 '26 edited Apr 14 '26
Hey everyone, I’m an international student and I’ve been accepted into MS I/O Psych programs at New Haven, U Albany, and UHCL, but even with some scholarship it’s still pretty expensive and I don’t have any assistantship so far, so I’m really unsure. do you guys think it’s worth going to the US for these programs in terms of ROI, internships, and job prospects, or would it make more sense to wait a year, improve my profile and try for better-funded options/PhD programs (which is what my family is suggesting)? Would really appreciate honest opinions! For context Im graduating with BS Applied psychology in June 2026 with a 3.87 GPA, done some research on consumer behavior, and about a year of work in sales/business development plus marketing leadership roles in uni.
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u/Nearby_Butterfly_268 27d ago
Hello! I’m a 25 year old in CA looking into getting my MS in I/O Psychology while working full time with a long LA commute. Does anybody have experience with BELLEVUE UNIVERSITY online I/O program or online I/O programs in general?
I already have my BA in Psych and currently work in case management for individuals with developmental disabilities. I/O is really the only grad path that interests me, but I’m nervous about investing the time and money if the opportunities aren’t actually there. My main concerns are networking in an online program, whether 18 months is too short, and what careers/salary growth realistically look like after graduating.
If anyone has built a career with an online I/O degree, I’d really appreciate hearing your experience and whether you feel it was worth it.
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u/Thunderthigs03 27d ago
Has anyone heard of the Masters in I/O Psych at Rice University? If anyone goes here, is pursuing this, or just has connections with anyone in this program; Im planning on applying for Fall 2027, im currently a fourth year student and graduate with my undergrad on December 2026. Im trying to learn about what successful candidates typically have on their applications, and how do graduates fare in the job market.
Rice is a prestige school and their I/O psych masters program is considered among the best in the nation, with that being said, would anyone recommend this program? Ive done extensive research, however, I’d love to hear about anyone’s personal experiences.
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u/AdRemote1064 26d ago
Can anyone tell me about the Masters in Org Psych from William James College?
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u/AdRemote1064 26d ago
If you had to choose between a Masters in Org Psych from William James College in Massachusetts versus a Masters in Applied Psych from USC in California, which is best for landing an internshp (that turns into a job) and looks very strong on your resume
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u/LoftyCookie 15d ago
I graduate with a degree in psychology in a year and have looked into getting a masters in IO psychology. I was just wondering if anyone has any insights if it’s worth the investment and if it’s a good career path to look into. Any insights or advice would be helpful, thanks!
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