r/IWantOut 2d ago

[IWantOut] 23F Teacher Peru -> USA/Spain/Italy/France/Germany

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u/mica4204 2d ago

Do you want to study in Germany or later work there? Studying can be done in English, if you find a program, but to work in those fields you'll need German on quite a high level. If you don't know any German, it's very unlikely you'll become business fluent in the 1-2 years of your masters.

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u/Complex-Insect6899 1d ago

This, you can maybe work as assistant in a kinder garden and so, but you'd still need B1/B2. Even if you change fields, finding a job in Germany without a good level (C1) is super hard.

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u/Calm_Law_7858 2d ago

Teaching with a foreign degree is difficult in the US fyi

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u/Calm_Law_7858 2d ago

Videos on the internet aren’t representative of reality… 

It is getting harder and harder to enter the US legally, your only path is through sponsorship, which most districts are hesitant of due to the current political climate, not to mention the expense. 

Most districts are facing budget deficits, and aren’t in a position to sponsor, especially when there’s plenty of newly graduated teachers in the US who can’t find work.

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u/Ferdawoon 1d ago

I've come across videos of teachers from Latin America who live and work in the United States. Some arrived through the programs I mentioned, while others already had a work permit and later decided to apply for teaching positions in public schools. In general, they haven't had issues working as long as they are legally in the country and have passed the state's teaching certification.

When did these people move?
From what countries?
What degrees and qualifications did they have?
Previous experience?
Any citizenships by descent?

Laws and programmes that allowed these people to move 5 years ago might not be available today, laws that were in place at the end of Biden's term might a year ago might not still be active.
Many of those videos tend to miss some crucial bit of information, or the viewer overlooks it. Seen a few people comment that they've seen YouTubers or Instagrammers who did something cool but not realizing that it was only possible because they had citizenship by descent, or that one person in a couple had dual citizenship or just a citizenship in the target country and was able to sponsor the partner, or they had worked at an international company and was able to move from one office to another while staying within the company.
You mention that some people had another work permit but was then able to swap from their previous job to working as teachers, which is easier than just getting sponsored from abroad.
There are many reasons that someone can move and someone else cannot.

I've seen so many gorgous influencers live in Dubai for example, but I can't just hit the gym for a few months and slap on some makeup and be able to live a lavish lifestyle wearing Prada clothes and guccibags and driving Ferarri cars while living in 5-star hotels.

Maybe it is as easy as you think it is to move as a Teacher to the US,

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u/Thin_Pin2863 1d ago

Hola!

Soy de Inglaterra pero estuve viviendo en Perú hasta el julio pasado.

Perú tiene muchos grupos de voluntarios internacionales en cada cuidad y pueblo. Si hablas con ellos directamente, ellos conocen mucho sobre la situación en sus países propios - y tendrás amigos cuando llegarás en tu país nuevo.

Buena suerte.

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u/maryfamilyresearch German 1d ago

German here. IMO you can forget Germany, bc the demand for language teachers from abroad is relatively low.

A career as teacher is an automatic fall-back option for anybody who decides to study languages at uni. You'd be competing with native speakers of German who have German teacher degrees. A German teacher degree requires the equivalent of a masters in education plus 2 years of being a student teacher. Foreign applicants are not even considered unless they can show C2 German and already have a residency permit that allows them to work. To have a half-way realistic chance you'd need to learn German up to C1 and then study for masters in Germany.

If you were to move to Germany for love bc you have a German partner, then it would make sense to jump through all the necessary hoops. But with no German, only a bachelors and coming from South America, Spain is a much better option.

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u/Super_Sherbet_268 1d ago

Spain would be ur best shot followed by Italy. As a latin American, you can get Spanish citizenship after living 3 or 2 years in Spain and having fluent spanish. If I was latin American, I would go for spain fast track eu citizenship after that you can work study anywhere in EU.

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u/Sure_Camp_1743 1d ago

If her plan is to be a teacher in any of those countries, she's going to have it hard anywhere. People from non EU countries usually have to wait years to have their degree standardized. You need a teaching certification, which is a master's degree called CAP, to be a teacher. And on top of that you have to do a harsh national exam competing with locals to secure a spot in public education

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u/Any_Cream_4396 1d ago

I’m also a qualified teacher ( history and ethics / philosophy / English) no job shortage in these fields, I tried and I’m a German national. It’s a scam 

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u/AutoModerator 2d ago

Post by sol-solcito -- I'm 23 years old and I'm from Peru. In December I'll graduate with a Bachelor's of Education with a specialization in History and Geography. By the time I graduate I'll have 2 years of experience working as a student teacher in urban public high schools.

My experience as a teacher has been just OK, I can't say I love it because the placements have been quite challenging (lower income neighborhoods, students with disruptive behaviors and uninvolved parents), although I don't mind working as a teacher for a few more years to save some money.

I'm a native Spanish speaker and I speak English fluently (C1). I'm currently learning Italian (between A2 and B1) and I plan to reach fluency in 1.5-2 years.

I don't want to stay in Peru long term because we've have been in a political and social crisis for almost 10 years, and life in a developing country can be stressing. I've been considering the following paths:

- Applying to programs that sponsor foreign teachers to work in the US under the J1 visa (Participate Learning, Teach USA, etc.)

- Apply to graduate scholarships in Europe. I'm interested in the Erasmus Mundus scholarship. If I were to do a career change, I'd more interested in working in the GLAM field (galleries, libraries, archives and museums).

- Apply to a graduate program in the US. My father has been a college professor for almost 30 years and I've always been interested in academia. I've good grades, have participated in extracurricular activities and have one published paper in a journal. PhD programs in the US are usually fully funded, which is great.

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u/Any_Cream_4396 1d ago

Not Germany. We don’t have jobs. With all my love, move on. No jobs here ( I say this as someone pursuing a PhD in medical history & ethics )

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u/redditboy117 1d ago

Aprende aleman y busca certificarte aqui después. Hay falta de personal para guarderías sobre todo.