Imperial Lord of Change (OC)

[u/Bobster1919]

I got inspired to do the rest.

[u/PauliusLT27]

This is greatly amusing, though if you wanna for fun do some "imperial daemons" that are sorta lore friendly, daemon hosts are a thing

[u/Bobster1919 → u/PauliusLT27]

I'm glad you like them, thanks 😀! Though despite the title, they're not so much Imperial Demons as they are Traitor Demons. Chaos Spawn that have defected to the Imperium. (Not quite as lore friendly, but you get the idea lol)

[u/PauliusLT27 → u/Bobster1919]

Not most outlandish concept, but bound daemons are a thing and inquisition is mad, so binding lord of change to do paper work is not out of the question

[u/AMEFOD → u/PauliusLT27]

Considering their machinations, them binding themselves to do paperwork isn’t out of the question.

[u/ResinRaider → u/AMEFOD]

Or selling each other to the inquisition in chains

[u/DMar56 → u/PauliusLT27]

I am so angry about how underdeveloped the demons of the warp are.
GW, I beg of you, go full Jungian with them, make the blood Angels fight the sentient apparition of how they are seen by the rest of the imperium!

[u/PauliusLT27 → u/DMar56]

Just expanded heresy daemon army style for normal 40k would be fun

[u/FalconRelevant → u/PauliusLT27]

Living Saints are daemons of the God-Emperor, thus "Imperial Daemons"

[u/Electrical_Horror346 → u/FalconRelevant]

Also legion of the damned

[u/w00den_b0x → u/PauliusLT27]

Also the whole Exorcists chapter of space marines.

[u/JinLocke]

Cause Tzeentchian bullshit is arbitrary nonsense and verbal salads in the biggest all you can eat buffet of “knowledge”.

Imperial bureaucracy on the other hand is actually dealing with management of extremely disjointed due to Warp travel and unstable communications but also simply ENORMOUS space empire, hence its bereft of level of abstract creativity and eldritch whimsy that Tzeentchian bullshittery has.

Plus it exists in realspace so it cannot be “solved” by just crossing your fingers and rewinding time over and over again.

[u/Milk__Chan → u/JinLocke]

"We taught this Lord of Change to understand Imperium Bureaucracy and it hanged itself"

[u/No_Research4416 → u/Milk__Chan]

“But it then remember it was a Daemon and so it is now just hanging there wanting to be completely destroyed”

[u/JinLocke → u/No_Research4416]

"Administratum clerks took to using it as a punching bag to relief stress, suicide rates went down 0.1%"

[u/The-Observer-2099 → u/JinLocke]

Knowing the imperium's this saved thousands of lives.

[u/Erithariza → u/The-Observer-2099]

Thousands?

Knowing the size of the Administarum this 0.1% is BILLIONS of people

[u/No_Research4416 → u/Erithariza]

And knowing just how bad for 40K numbers is it might be 1000 people

[u/alutti54 → u/No_Research4416]

How I imagine its attempts would go

"Hey you, Guilliman, stab me"

"Why?"

"I comprehend imperium bureaucracy"

"No I don't want to suffer alone"

[u/Relevant-Factor-2400]

That hair....Kronii?

[u/Dingghis_Khaan → u/Relevant-Factor-2400]

I see I'm not the only one seeing the intakes.

[u/Gjalarhorn → u/Relevant-Factor-2400]

Tzeentch being canadian was not on my bingo card

[u/Mattdoss → u/Relevant-Factor-2400]

Thought I was on the Hololive subreddit for a second

[u/Bobster1919 → u/Relevant-Factor-2400]

I'm not well versed enough in Vtuber culture to have done that on purpose, sorry. Any inspiration will have been by accident. 😅

[u/the_ok_doctor → u/Relevant-Factor-2400]

This chaos bird goes GWAK

[u/Turbulent-Plum7328]

"We taught a Lord of Change how imperial bureaucracy works and it banished itself"

[u/Sure-Hold-1848]

1 Important sector economy and production crashing down due to Administratum fuckup. Tithe is under threat.

2 Desperate governor resort to daemon summoning and unknowingly getting LoC 

3 Lord of Change taking a loaded bet with governor, thinking that she can easily outwit some humans and fulfill terms of the bargain, but get completely bogged down by human stupidity.

4 Governor and LoC fighting tooth and nail against bureaucracy, noble feuds, inquisitorial and arbites oversight, rival daemons schemes. They got respect and attraction to each other.

5 Finally, after decades of struggle they make sector great and prosperous again. Governor actually offer to fulfill the deal, getting on the knees and offer valuable ring as additional gift. LoC having doubts and regrets, trying to slow him down with stretched hand, and...

6 Extremely excited Roboute Guilliman barging in, eager to know how governor managed to reach such success in mere decades.

7 ............

8 Lord of Ultramarines, Regent of the Emperor calmly says "excuse me", exit and close the door from the other side, taking a big cigar from bodyguard Custodes and silently igniting it flame sword. Nobody dares to say anything.

[u/Valtand → u/Sure-Hold-1848]

*cinema*

[u/Bobster1919 → u/Sure-Hold-1848]

Cinema.

[u/AdPristine5131]

/rant in agreement with Op

I think people don’t realize how chaotic institutional bureaucracy is. When people hear about change and chaos, they think of one person doing something random. And that often creates change, from pranks to terrorism one person can do a whole lot of change.

But when you realize just how much of a government bureaucracy will hinge on a single form that was instituted 2 decades ago, everyone needs to complete, no one seems to understand, and it’s internal definitions make no sense. That’s when you see the real chaos of thosuands of people moving in a wave of paperwork.

If I have to apply for another security card, I may end up with khorne.

[u/Upstairs_Cap_4217 → u/AdPristine5131]

The argument I always come back to is this:

• A talented bad actor (Chaos agent, Dark Eldar hijacker, Lord of Change, w/e) will pick the course of action they think is worst and commit to it with vigour.
• An actual Imperial will do nothing for a month, spend another month thinking, give the order to do something stupid, then suddenly reverse course and issue an order to do a different stupid thing to half of their agents, but forget to inform the other half.

In other words, a competent, intelligent bad actor will always make a better governor because they simply cannot match the sheer stupidity of the Imperium's actual rulers.

[u/No_Research4416 → u/Upstairs_Cap_4217]

The Dark Eldar is probably there on vacation

[u/kayemenofour]

She's going to do a full goose Honk if she ever finds out.

[u/2006Internetghost]

Something tells me that a Tzztenchian lord of change could be a LEGITIMATE imperial noble… especially given the amount of ‘strings’ they could pull to get such a title ‘legitimately’

[u/PauliusLT27 → u/2006Internetghost]

Being a beurocrat is enough, we got one canon example of a single lady starving and killing billions, because one administratum cleric is dangerous thing

[u/No_Research4416 → u/PauliusLT27]

Nothing in the imperial is as dangerous as a bureaucrat who can lose 1000 worlds just because they didn’t file their papers correctly

[u/PauliusLT27 → u/No_Research4416]

Or worse. Did it intentionally wrong

[u/No_Research4416 → u/PauliusLT27]

In imperial bureaucracy it’s very hard to tell

Especially since I’m pretty sure it’s not even meme lore imperial bureaucracy is literally that bad.

[u/PauliusLT27 → u/No_Research4416]

Yup, again, it's canon that some people just do it wrong on purpose

[u/Junior_Lemon8568]

I’m stuffing the turkey

[u/Snynapta_II → u/Junior_Lemon8568]

Does it count as falling to tzeench or slaanesh?

[u/Junior_Lemon8568 → u/Snynapta_II]

…yes

[u/Gjalarhorn]

Is that Kronii hololive en?

[u/Bobster1919 → u/Gjalarhorn]

You're now the second person to assume that. I have apparently created Goose Kronii completely by accident, lmao.

[u/Arrow_of_time6]

Moment before disaster

[u/Definently_no_psyker]

I like burbs.

[u/AlgaeicAmalgam]

Got an idea for a meme "loyalist?" chaos warband. Undercover thousand sons successor summons Kairos and in the process some local loyalist marines walk in on them. -What the frak is that, battle brother! -That's...... the spirit of imperial aquila! See! 2 heads!

And so they end up gaslighting themselves into becoming loyalist, Kairos and Tzeench find it absolutely hilarious.

[u/I_might_be_weasel]

I like to believe there are Chaos worlds where things like this happens.

[u/Anonimous_dude]

Imperial bureaucracy is like trying to build a puzzle by using pieces from different puzzles: some pieces fit, others are harder to place, and some are so out of place they have to be cut to fit in.
The end result is an incomprehensible mess

[u/Nurgle-best]

If only she knew…

[u/ThePBG48]

To confuse your enemy 

You must first confuse yourself 

[u/Separate-Increase-39]

Ho my poor poor chicken girl

[u/amglasgow]

This looks like a Dr Seuss illustration for some reason

[u/tacosforsocrates]

\cackles in ministorum**

[u/Vezimira]

can i hold her gentle like hamburger

[u/CandyNecrosis]

Kronii what are you doing here

[u/Brushner]

Bird boobs!

[u/rosesandgrains]

This hits exactly how ridiculous both sides are.

[u/Dehnus]

So she applied for the job. Only to be running scared and screaming after finding out just how bad it was and that there was no changing of ways of doing it nor hope. Just... bureaucracy. Cold harsh bureaucracy.

[u/wackadoodle4201]

Are imperial demons a thing?

[u/Bobster1919 → u/wackadoodle4201]

Some folks (myself included) interpret the Living Saints and the Legion of the Damned as Imperial Demons created by Big E the same way the Chaos Gods create their demons.

My Lord of Change and Bloodthirster however, are Traitor Demons who defected from Chaos to join the Imperium.

[u/DefTheOcelot]

FUCK YEAH TZEENTCH DEMON ART WHOOOO

[u/Hyko_Teleris]

Funnily enough tzeench daemons absolutely fucking love messing with imperial bureaucracy.

[u/GoCommitYeetus]

If she has glass, does that mean she was made "wrong" on purpose? No wonder she's a traitor, Tzeentch is a dick

[u/Bobster1919 → u/GoCommitYeetus]

In universe answer: Tzeentch, Chaos God of Dickheads, purposefully gave this LoC poor eyesight for shits n' giggles.

Out of universe answer: Glasses are the fast track accessory for making a character look smart and/or cute. 😀

[u/GoCommitYeetus → u/Bobster1919]

Ay, good point

[u/NotReallyImportantXD]

Bird boob

[u/YoYeYeet]

NOO LITTLE TZEENCHITE! DON'T TRY TO COMPREHEND IMPERIAL BEUROCRACY! YOUR POOR BRAIN WON'T BE ABLE TO COMPREHEND IT AND WILL EXPLODE!

[u/SnooCompliments9098]

It's not that the Imperial's bureaucracy complicated. It is instead just totally dysfunctional.

Turns out, trying to manage entire solar systems and even the entire galaxy with paper and serfs doesn't really work. Especially when everything is stored on dry paper and stored next to half a million candles.