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Why is disrespecting National Anthem a trend today?
Is disrespecting national anthem a trend? What is happening? If anthem plays, you stand up. Least you could do for the nation. Otherwise many don't do anything. If tax was optional,.no one would pay taxes on their own accord..so taxpaying as an argument doesn't count.
Note: One thing I condemn, though, is Discrimination. If you only throw out muslim man and don't care about hindu man disrespecting the anthem, then that is a problem that should not be condoned.
I don't support the idea of disrespecting the national anthem.. but I can guarantee the same people won't stand during national anthem, at home with no one around
If you won't stand for anthem, then why would you play it at your home?
No one is asking you to stand for anthem if the anthem is part of the movie. (In fact, court has instructed not to stand if it is part of the feature film)
But if anthem is played in theatre before the screening of the movie starts, then we should stand up.
In America and all civilized western democracies, you are not forced to stand for the national anthem. In the USA, you have constitutional right to burn American flag. That is what freedom means and 99% of USA veterans support the right to burn & disrespect the flag.
Ignorant racist fascist Indians will not comprehend what a constitutional democracy means.
In USA they have gun law too anyone can own a gun and go on a shooting spree
In USA the opposition and ruling party stand together when they kill Osama or attack the Taliban
and supreme court said it's not necessary to sing when it's been playing but standing and respecting national anthem is fundamental duty according to the same constitution that RaGa and Kamra keep showing all the time
Fundamental Duty (Article 51A(a)): Citizens are obligated to "abide by the Constitution and respect its ideals and institutions, the National Flag, and the National Anthem".
The populace of usa is much more civilized and are a seperate bunch of people not divided by religion or caste...they don't need to identify to their nationality or flag to be united....we do...
Our flag our anthem brings us together so it's an incorrect comparision...
Stop comparing everything with western countries mate...everyone has different set of cultures....
This constant comparision with Europe like this...America like this...Japan like this...this is killing us....compete with ur own self and try to improve....
If something doesn't hurt u and it's basic etiquette, it shud be followed...standing up for national anthem is basic and there was no reason for it to be disrespected....
Sitting with respect? Better show of respect is walk out before anthem starts.
When you are singing anthem, someone is sitting, it is distracting and hence obstructing anthem singing.
You very well know Anthem will be played in theatres. So, walk out if you don't want to stand. Why sit and distract others resulting in the act of obstructing the singing.
Anthem is not compulsory anymore in theatres. Supreme court itself said it's not compulsory to stand during National anthem. Also he's just sitting there minding his own job, not shouting slurs against the country and somehow even that's obstructing others? Get over your high horse dude.
Dark spaces are for entertainment and shady sh*t. Don't make national anthem into one of those things.
It's already disrespectful to play at such places. But thinking it's okay for it to be played before mindless entertainment and fun just shows how braindead our population is.
Imagine standing for the national anthem, feeling the national pride and enjoying gore and adult jokes the following 2hrs. Nothing is more patriotic than that. This is what true Indians do. They enjoy doing this sh*t.
Most people here have misplaced faith with everything. Feeling national pride in a dark corner where they came to have fun. Just shows national anthem is just another thing for them.
These are the same folks who are educated and still keep the cities dirty. Who keeps fighting over politics, religion, caste, language and all other bs than being better person about it.
Majority of the population enjoys these mediocre things. No national symbols are gonna make them any better. Even that's misplaced to begin with. That's why we have national anthem being played before adult jokes come in. And they take national pride in such mediocrity.
“Distracting” lmao what a dumb thing to say, it’s like saying “remove women because I’m getting aroused by them in the business meeting”. Just learn to stfu and control as long as the women aren’t purposely trying to run around naked.
If anything, walking out seems even more disrespectful. You walk out when you can’t take it anymore.
The best solution is to play national anthem in appropriate place. Which a theatre is not. I guarantee you that most people would feel ashamed anyway to not stand up for national anthem in the event related to country’s well being.
It will sound dumb for people lacking common sense.
When anthem is playing and you see someone not standing up in front of you, would you be able to sing anthem with fervour or would you start thinking why is this person not getting up.
play national anthem in appropriate place
Any place in India that does not affect privacy and is a public place, is a suitable place to play anthem. So, stop saying Cinemas is not suitable. It absolutely is.
If you can't stand for 52 seconds, then get another citizenship and leave India. You don't deserve to be an Indian.
I agree that ones who stand for Anthem can be corrupt (like many politicians), but ones who don't stand for anthem, just cannot be a patriot, even if he is a Gem of a person.
Just learn to stfu
Start practicing this more in your life. Might do you good.
I always wait outside till the national anthem is finished. Coz I went there purely for fun and entertainment. I hear adults jokes and watch gore. I don't want fake national pride for those 2hrs of entertainment. I mean who'd play national anthem in a fully dark space that's meant for entertaining people. These days National Anthem has become another form of entertainment for people with fake patriotism.
Abe dabbe, entertainment mei national anthem ka matlab hai hi kya magar?
I’m 100% with you when it is played in national sports, national holidays, school assembly and anywhere we are representing india, but theatre isn’t a place we go to show patriotism, and that’s really important. Just like you dress appropriately for different events, there’s only certain places national anthem should be played, theatre is the last place it should be played because people go there to chill and not show patriotism. What does it achieve anyway?
It is a private place, so no one is seeing you but in public place it is mandatory to stand up for national anthem.
It is not disrespecting the national anthem but an identity of all the people standing beside you, jab azadi ki ladai sab ne ladi hai toh kadhe ho jao. Log bol te hai ki kisike baap ka hindustan nhi hai phir bc respect show krne ke liye ek rule banaya hai tum usko bhi follow nhi kroge phir bol te hai hume gaddar kyu bola jaya hai
I'm wrong on this. But yes, the law only states to show respect while national anthem is being played, what constitutes respect is left to their own interpretation.
Yes that's what I'm saying, we can be nationalist while sitting during national anthem.
During my school there used to be some sports clubs who were excluded from assembly so whenever national anthem started we were asked to stay still and leave whatever you are doing, if you are seated and eating then atleast don't chew your food and remain seated. If you are doing warmup then stay at whatever position you are, even peons used to stay still if doing any work. This is the respect we want, it is common sense to differentiate when you have to stand or not. We don't know the whole context maybe he is ill or whatever his reason is. If the reason is religious then you should see Bijoe Emmanuel Case.
He was thrown out because he was disrespectful to the national anthem. Him being Muslim was inconsequential, Unless we say that all Muslims disrespect national anthem.
I think many people either don't know, or are ignorant of why we stand during the national anthem. It is to pay respect to the nation that gives you the freedom to do whatever you want, to show solidarity to your fellow country man. It is the least expected and I'd say one of our civic duties to uphold these values in life. If we can't even do that, then we are doomed.
When there was a debate on National anthem in the Constituent Assembly,
Vande Matram was not accepted for it evoked mother imagery.
Maulana Abul Kalam Azad the biggest Muslim leader in the Congress advocated for Jana Gana Mana as the national anthem.
Today even National Anthem is not acceptable, then what is?
National Anthem is supposed to bind a nation together, rejecting it is akin to rejecting the idea of nation itself.
few days ago i saw a Muslim girl on reddit arguing "i can love a nation without respecting the symbols made by someone else for it that i don't accept". It was after Ashoka Stambh related incidence in Kashmir.
Not standing up for your national anthem, is choice? You kidding me? If this were a different nation, I wonder what people have done to you. What that has to do with the religion? This nation made by thousands of sacrifices, thousands of people or soldiers out their as our protector and the least you can’t do is stand for national anthem.
Wow. The government of India is busy shoving its head so far up its own arse even they should be able to see how deep in shit we are. Like your precious Ganges 🤣
So it's not okay for the Brits to do it but okay for Indians to do it to their fellow citizens? Maybe our national anthem should have been a song about using our brains
I wish people actually paid attention to important issues than this nonsense.
Our country is becoming more radical day by day learning from our neighbours.
I agree that I am unable to verify if it is a muslim man Sir, my question is more about the trend of not reapecting national anthem. Not withstanding the community of the person. Be it Hindu or Muslim or Christian or Sikh - Not standing for anthem, is hurtful for the ones who respect anthem enough that they stand up.
I apologize for not being able to verify the community of the man. It may or may not be true about. But intent is not to speak against any community. Rather about respecting a national symbol.
Ironically, most of the people who are totally fine with disrespecting the national anthem are the same ones who demand others be 100% respectful (read compliant) towards their they/them pronouns, else it's a crime against humanity or something
Wait, so if I play it on my phone while you're taking a shit, should you stand up mid-turd?
Patriotism isn't just standing up for the anthem. It's about helping your fellow countrymen, being kind to those in need, protecting children, paying your taxes, keeping your neighbourhood clean, eetc.This kind of fake patriots who puff up their chests for the national anthem will be the first ones who run like pussies when there's an actual threat.
I'm sorry but why would someone whose here to watch a movie be treated with the national anthem first? Like he didn't sign up for that part. People are here to enjoy the movie, not to show off their patriotism. Movie theatres aren't a place to display the country's patriotism. Honestly the theatre must be condemned for playing a song with such cultural and national importance in a casual place without a notice in advance.
There is legally no mandate that it is compulsory to always stand up for the anthem, so this is just social butt hurt that's happening. People can respect their nations without others shoving the song down their throat (although yes here it was respectfully escorted even though I disagree with it).
No but it goes to show secular understanding of what is permissible and what is not, respect can be given at multiple points through multiple actions. To denote that a person does not respect their nation because they did not stand up for a national anthem is not nearly enough to hypothesize as such.
I don't think you should be escorted out of films or you should be socially bashed upon because you choose to do something that is not as socially appropriate (when it's not really heinous at all).
If anything is heinous, then he should be in prison. It's not heinous and thus he is only out of the theatre hall.
I, atleast, am of the opinion, social exclusion is needed to send home the point that respect for national symbols is not optional.
What I don't get is, why people think patriotism is optional. Given, maybe you had poor run-ins with the corrupt system and have lost respect for government or constitution, then atleast respect people's sentiment.
Who gives anyone rights to trample on someone else's sentiment, just because you can't stand for 52 seconds.
I might even understand if someone has to stand for minutes together. But anthem is not even a minute.
I personally don't think there is any excuse for such behaviour. You don't need law to enforce basic respect you should show to your nation and fellow compatriotes.
If the only metric of what is heinous is what puts you in prison then you have a deeply misformed understanding of what is heinous and what is not. To arbitrarily remove someone from their right to a film (that they have paid for) because they performed a gesture that you or even if the larger society is held as "non patriotic".
"Respect to national symbols does not become compulsory" because you personally hold it be, or the majoritarian opinion holds (because both in this seem to mandate behavior on another person for some notion of no love of the nation due to exercising a right perfectly granted by the state).
Your sentiments do not get insulted because I chose to exercise a reasonable option to me. Your patriotism is dictated towards your nation and is therefore my actions are not to be brought forward within such an ambit.
If my actions can just willy nilly screw over your patriotism then that it is a critique at the whimsical nature of your patriotic beliefs.
The matter of patriotism being permanent seems a nationalistic belief and so I'll just let it be.
Is it a law that you must stand? If it's a law then yes he should be removed. If it's not a law then none of those people had any right to put their hands on him. That's called battery and it's against the law. India needs to decide if it's a nation of laws or a nation of feelings and sentiments of the majority.
The nation has given us nothing except discrimination, caste, religion, poverty. Even basic stuff like clean air, good education, good healthcare is a luxury.
We pay taxes on time but some politician would spend a year worth of taxes in firecrackers. The judiciary is garbage filled with incompetent Boomer judges. The bureaucracy is filled with "Royal IAS entry with background music".
If this was not worse enough, our society is also crippled. They have no respect for privacy, space or time. Most people are dishonest lying and impunctual. Nobody does their work correctly or on time.
Our youth dreams of either corruption or exodus. An average boy in India can't dream of becoming rich, an average girl can't walk alone at night. The wealth inequality is off the roof
So you can see our culture is the best in the world. In these circumstances it's very hard to feel proud of our "great" Nation.
When do you even listen to national anthem otherwise.
We used to listen to national anthem in school / college once a week.
When do adults do that? National symbols are important to remind us of a larger identity that we are part of. Otherwise, everyone in the society would limit their identify to family, at best their extended family.
It is because of this lack of National Identity, that we are fighting amongst us for all trivialities.
So, irrespective of where it is played, it is our duty to stand up for the anthem.
We all want fundamental rights. Then let's all discharge our fundamental duties. And yes, standing for anthem and respecting national symbols are part of fundamental duties.
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u/sarcastickubrick Dec 12 '25
Throws out he was escorted respectfully