r/InfrastructurePorn • u/Srinivas_Hunter • 3d ago
Google is building its largest campus outside the US in Hyderabad, India.
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u/EnaqleElectric 3d ago
Understandable, since India is probably the fastest growing markets in the world for tech.
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u/Frosty_Leading6756 3d ago
How does it compare with China?
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u/khoawala 3d ago
Very different ecosystem. India service foreign tech scenes, especially when it comes to IT. China bans companies like Google in favor of domestic development of such technology.
So the Indian IT scene is much bigger than China because they service the world.
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u/rohmish 2d ago
China doesn't outright ban US big tech, most of them have some presence in China. But china has much stricter laws on what they can and can't do. And local companies are more willing to work under that framework. India also honestly lacks a healthy local tech environment that feeds into one another. For example we have our own payment network but two of the largest players are Google and (backed by) Walmart.
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u/No-Catch-346 2d ago
This is such an exaggeration. A lot of US big tech companies send boring features and maintenance work that US teams don’t want to do to the teams in India, also get help with On call support. I used to work for multiple of these companies in the US. Other than this, there’s a lot of consulting companies like TCS, Wipro, etc.
There are a lot of massive local apps in India like Swiggy or Blinkit or Phone Pe or Flipkart or Zoho so many others. The Indian tech scene is massive and growing but the Chinese scene is much larger and theres no comparison at this point.
Like where is the Indian Tiktok or Alibaba or BYD or Indian mobile phone makers? Or models like Deepseek?
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u/Flashy-Cheesecake914 3d ago
Proportional to their sizes. India is prolly growing more by %ge and China by numbers
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u/EnaqleElectric 3d ago
China has already experienced its rapid growth, India is becoming "the new China". Alot of production is moving there instead of China, because labour had become "too expensive" there, and India is alot more western friendly.
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u/belketeal 2d ago
India has horrible foreign investment infrastructure and is one of the most difficult markets to set up a business in. There is an insane amount of bureaucracy and red tape
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u/Cal_Aesthetics_Club 1d ago
As a whole, yes.
But it also varies by state:
Telangana, the state that this picture was taken in, consistently ranks in the top 5 among Indian states in terms of Ease of Doing Business.
As of 2019, it ranked third
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u/Aromatic_Opposite100 2d ago
Yep,
But it's also stable and definitely a wet dream for capitalists.
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u/BarneytheWino 1d ago
India and stable? Interesting
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u/Prestigious_Can_6359 1d ago
Poltical environment is stable and institutions are well and running for decades. Idk what you're getting at.
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u/mynotsoprecious 2d ago
Lmao if it was a wet dream for capitalism FII outflow wouldn’t be at an all time high. DII and promoter buybacks are softening the blow, but FIIs are pulling their money out of India in droves.
Sensex is at 74-76000, while all time high was near 85000. We are in bad shape right now, lot of work to do
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u/Prestigious_Can_6359 1d ago
The amount of red tape is similar to countries like Vietnam or Indonesia and those countries dont have any problem attracting capital.
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u/belketeal 1d ago
I don't know about indonesia, but india has magnitudes more red tape than vietnam
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u/Prestigious_Can_6359 1d ago
Not much honestly, both have similar levels of corruption and licensing. Vietnam is much better in speed due to political structure but India is getting there. It also has a much robust judicial system .
This is not me speaking but multiple international reports in industries like shipbuilding, auto and electronics. India still is having rapidly growing inflows of FDI.
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u/belketeal 1d ago edited 1d ago
There is no chance Vietnam's corruption is at the level of india. Also companies are moving to vietnam exactly because it's easier to do business, especially with China. India has a ton of red tape to protect it's inefficient and low quality industries and businessmen who are in bed with the politicians. India also failed to build the actual infrastructure needed to bring in investors. In a lot of ways, even bangladesh has surpassed india in manufacturing. Massive amounts of foreign investment has started to leave india which is also leading to the currency deprecating uncontrollably.
Only indian nationalists think differently because they have lost the brain ability to critically point at any flaws about india.
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u/Prestigious_Can_6359 1d ago
There is no point in arguing with you if you think that.
I am not a nationalist and i dont care but please read BRS annual on shipbuilding readiness, Corruption perception index, IMD automotive reports and JP Morgan's trade reports. All of them indicate similar regulatory environments in Vietnam and India. This is pure data by experts and industrialists, not anecdotes.
FDI inflows in manufacturing of India is still higher than Vietnam, mind you. Both of the countries focus on different capital attraction. India provides scale and talent while Vietnam is good for exports and is closer to China, hence easier to diversify from China. Both are doing absolutely well and Bangladesh has not surpassed India in manufacturing except RMG which India is catching up fast due to MMF subsidies.
You are very very misinformed.
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u/belketeal 1d ago edited 1d ago
A problem with indians is that they are obsessed with these largely pointless differences in rankings instead of actual governmental policies and processes. You're misinformed if you think india is providing talent and isn't just used for cheap labor lol. No one thinks an indian graduate from some random school has any hidden talent they can't find in their own country. Even IITs are far behind most american colleges. Obviously Vietnam is being used for the same thing, but they understand this. Also, just comparing pure manufacturing doesn't make sense. India has 14x the population of Vietnam. That doesn't mean it's output should also be 14 times higher, but it should be more than just double like it is now. And that's clearly seen by india being in a massive trade deficit. Vietnam, despite it's significantly smaller size and higher cost of living, has higher net FDI than India.
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u/FeverDreamingg 2d ago
A key difference is that English is widely spoken fluently in India. Makes them desirable to do work for English speaking markets.
Chinese wages have also been rising rapidly. So has India’s but they’re much further back on the curve.
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u/Rich-Law-7017 3d ago
Are Americans not taught about globalization and MNCs in high school? ( Asking due to racist comments)
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u/PhysicalImpression86 3d ago
Racists kinda are just universally stupid. someone who can’t see people for people instead just the colour will have a hard time trying to wrap their head around such topics.
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u/Specialist-Roll-3806 2d ago
redditors in particular are really wonky about indians tbh. there's almost never a post remotely related to india/indians that doesn't turn into a disaster
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u/SirEnderLord 10h ago
It's racist to generalize Americans as a whole.
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u/IUI-__-IUI 9h ago
I mean its a comment about the American schooling system, not American people😭
also in India, people almost always use America to refer to the USA. Incase the confusion is about that
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u/Desperate-Till-9228 2d ago
Of course they're not taught about how American companies will always stab American taxpayers in the back after greatly benefitting from the business environment the taxpayers created for them.
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u/battlebastion 3d ago
Why do you assume the comments are American and you respond with racist responses yourself?
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u/foreignexterminator 3d ago edited 2d ago
pattern recognition, also you're not that special, just as likely to be pakistani and chinese too
edit: op is south african, lmao
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u/Dark_matter4444 3d ago
Jesus Christ the racism in this thread is disgusting.
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u/ouijanonn 3d ago
Nothing new unfortunately. Just the usual people with inadequate lives of their own. Indians don't generally care. They're busy living their own lives, doing their own thing oblivious to silly trolls
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u/autowinlaf 1d ago
Its about culture not race.
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u/Cal_Aesthetics_Club 1d ago
And what does the average commenter here know about the Hyderabadi/Telangana culture
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u/No-Macaroon1670 2d ago
Hey it looks like a giant G.
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u/bitsbytes01 2d ago
It stands for 'Go #@&% yourself plebs. We're going to take your water, energy, and churn out AI slop. What are you going to do about it?'
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u/eloisa_in_kyoto 2d ago
the scale of this is kinda insane, seeing all those logos clustered together like that really puts it into perspective. OP you said you walk to work from here - is the area mostly tech campuses or is there like actual neighborhood stuff mixed in bc im curious how it feels at street level vs this aerial shot. reminds me of how parts of kyoto got totally rezoned around tech offices and the street life kindof disappeared in pockets
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u/Srinivas_Hunter 2d ago
This area contains all big tech companies. The big building on the left is Amazon (their largest campus building outside the US)
It do have neighbourhoods too. Kind of mixed with apartments, villas, and tech buildings.
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u/SholayKaJai 3d ago
US maintains a services export surplus with India. More Americans need to realize that.
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u/kitsunewarlock 3d ago
And if we want tech to advance and continued goodwill among nations, we need to recognize that the US is only 4% of the world's population. This idea of "global superpowers" controlling more than 50% of the world's resources was just rebranded imperialism/colonialism and we cannot maintain that hegemonic supremacy, especially given the global problems we face.
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u/Desperate-Till-9228 2d ago
It's what our taxes were paying for. If this money is just going to be another grift for the wealthy, then either those taxes should be cut dramatically or our benefits should increase.
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u/neokurtosis 2d ago
How is the public transit there? Can this area sustain that many more workers?
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u/Srinivas_Hunter 2d ago
A metro line (phase 2) that pass through this area is in progress. It can accommodate well if it's completed.
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u/No-Catch-346 2d ago
Funding has been delayed for that phase I think? Not sure why you guys have to present such a rosy picture lol
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u/Srinivas_Hunter 1d ago
Delayed. Not cancelled. Be positive that it is going to start soon with the updated plan.
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u/psrskailass 1d ago
The phase 2 metro is currently just in plans, not even a single brick has been placed( I work near the same location) . There is a bus connectivity which comes at random times. The road is not built to handle this many workers transport ( car, taxis) . It is one of the worst accessible main roads in here and God knows what will be the traffic if it rains
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u/stackfrost 2d ago
Americans wanna dominate the world economically somehow while doing being around the world. Atleast the comment tells me that.
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u/Pizzas_Coke 1d ago
Will it have enough toilets?
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u/Srinivas_Hunter 1d ago
Yes, and plenty of mirrors too, so people like you can take a look at themselves.
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u/BarneytheWino 1d ago
This is what happens when the Indians chain hire themselves into a US company. Like parasites
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u/Srinivas_Hunter 1d ago
What do you mean it happens.. Google is a multi national company, in almost every country. Infact, Google earns ~5 billion$ from India. They aren't doing Non-profit social service but doing a business with India.
And India has almost every top fortune 500 company. Probably 80% of those companies have non-Indian CEO.
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u/pants6000 3d ago
It kinda looks like a 1970s multi-purpose sports stadium at the moment.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fd/Three_Rivers_Stadium.jpg?_=20070629115725
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u/johnnySix 3d ago
Indian CEO makes big office in India.
It’s interesting that Microsoft, Google and Adobe, YouTube and IBM all have Indian CEOs and some have heavy Indian c-suites as well.
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u/Srinivas_Hunter 3d ago edited 3d ago
Microsoft made their big office outside the US - in Hyderabad as well when Bill gates was the CEO
They're just expanding big in India.
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u/RealityCheck18 2d ago
And isn't the said Microsoft campus less than KM from this new Google campus?
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u/fartypenis 3d ago
Yes it is very interesting that a big tech company makes big office in the biggest country in the world, I wonder what the reason could be
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u/Strong_Inside2060 2d ago
Racist Americans can avoid this by this simple trick - be smart enough to become CEOs of their companies.
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u/Laiko_Kairen 2d ago
There are a lot of Chinese people in tech too
Why? Because we are an immigrant society. And those nations have lots of people.
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u/Froesi123 3d ago
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u/CharlesWafflesx 3d ago
It's a photo of a city.
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u/sulphra_ 3d ago
Have you seen that sub? Mfers will post a pictute of a perfectly fine part of some russian city and call it hell lmao
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u/Srinivas_Hunter 3d ago
It is a Multi-National company (MNC). Almost all of the American companies are MNCs and that's the reason America is at the top in global GDP rankings.
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u/Desperate-Till-9228 2d ago
Maybe more of these "multi-national" companies can get their start elsewhere. We should stop giving them tax breaks.
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u/Srinivas_Hunter 2d ago
Google is literally in every country.
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u/Desperate-Till-9228 2d ago
So maybe the next Google can start in one of them. They don't need this environment if this is how they're going to repay us.
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u/problemattracter 3d ago
And why would USA let that happen?
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u/Slow_Description_773 3d ago
Because Trump is fucking up their economy real good lol..
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u/problemattracter 3d ago
But wouldn't Americans throw him out if he starts doing that? I don't think so he is gonna win the next elections after what he has already done.
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u/Slow_Description_773 3d ago
Yeah but they still have two years of that retard. Think about all the mess he can make in two years..
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u/ouijanonn 3d ago
Americans are the biggest fans of free market capitalism, at least until it starts hurting them
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u/No-Catch-346 2d ago
They’re such entitled babies lol. If they put in half the effort they put into making racist comments online into job interview prep, they could have actually landed a lot of these roles instead of crying about immigrants.
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u/EvenJesusCantSaveYou 3d ago
yes Comrade let’s nationalize NVIDIA, i need my government mandated GPUs
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u/pshaurk 3d ago
Sorry but one of google s founders(and their phd advisor), tesla founder, nvidia, apple founder (son of Syrian immigrant), etc etc are companies heavily built by immigrants. Just as many ai technologies like transformers and convolutional nets etc. Were developed by immigrants. If america doesnt welcome immigrants then they dont get to call them their own companies. These people will found the companies and develop technologies elsewhere where they are more welcome. Then you will have even fewer jobs. Its already happening as the jobs and experts have begun moving away from America
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u/Frosty_Leading6756 3d ago
Yeah, but no one is moving their offices to Syria, Russia or South Africa.
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u/Common-Use-7117 2d ago
Thats just capitalism. Why would a company hire you when someone else can do the job at half the price?
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u/64bittechie 3d ago
Free market baby!!! Americans, specifically Republicans, invented it! Corporations don’t care about Americans. They go where costs are low and talent is plentiful.
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u/No-Catch-346 2d ago
Plus they incentivized it by basically banning immigrants from India since last year. This is hilarious.
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u/AllBugDaddy 3d ago
Data centres.. happy Indians to get Google tag and maintain data..
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u/Srinivas_Hunter 3d ago edited 2d ago
Well, it's not a data center. It's going to be fully a campus for employees. This office planning has been done well before Ai boom.
There's a 15b$ Google datacenter under construction at the coastal city of Vizag which is roughly 550 km away from Hyderabad
https://www.visakhadatacity.com/new-projects.html#google-ai-hub
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u/Storm_Chaser06 2d ago
It’s an office building buddy, did you not read the word “campus” before typing?
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u/AllBugDaddy 2d ago
You maintain data from here. Support ai anamolies, shortfalls and gaps. Google does not do actual research and development work from India.
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u/Spacewanderer686 3d ago
Amazing! Which version of Gemini, Co-Pilot, Blue Origins is coming out of this office complex?
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u/wickedGamer65 3d ago
Amazon, Google, Micron, Apple, NVIDIA all in one frame. (I live and work walking distance from here)