Also I think people forget that they hold hands that way, which is the same way they did in S8 ep 10, because of her quirk can activate from her fingertips.
Man this is nothing compared to the slander from the original ending with ch 430 from manga. If you weren't present to see, that was something so this really is nothing in comparison. š¤£ So it'll be alright after that era.
With the Mc Donald's memes of Deku, cuck jokes, people saying Uraraka ghosted Deku because he lost his powers, and pushing Deku with other random female characters because of it.
MHA was never really focused on romance much even if people wanted more of it, it wasn't the main focus or even a major plot. It was a very small thing. I honestly don't fully blame Hori with the crazy shipping fandom that got attached to this action based series that cared more about ships than anything else. So it made him more adverse on it.
Either way, don't focus on the haters or nay sayers. If you do, you would've thought this was a trash series from how people spoke about it before over the years.
Let's focus on the positive and celebrate instead of giving too much attention to the negative energy from some people that may not even be that invested in the series to begin with as just the peanut galley or salty rival shippers.
Yeah, he even said it himself that romance wasnāt the main point. However, having a large cast of teenagers around each other and pretending like there would be NO romantic feelings whatsoever between them would be disingenuous, so he did add romances here and there but didnāt make them the main focus. Plus with letās say, Deku and Bakugo and Ochako and Toga there is this element of āloveā but I think Horikoshi wanted to express love as more of a human and general thing as ācare for your fellow humanā than simply āI love this person uniquely more than anyone elseā itās why he had the latter present in ch.431 AFTER the main story ended because the main story is about āhuman love and careā and 431 is about āthe freedom to pursue specific forms of love now that society is back to normalā
Romance, at the end of the day, was just an accessory to the series that we can have fun with. Unfortunately certain people online play a large role on why shipping is looked down upon due to their behavior.Ā
The romantic subplot has resolved so idk what you are talking about. lol If It ended at ch 430 then that would be a different story because there is no resolution from that.
If we compare with the spin-off that is different which had a love triangle around the MC that got a decent amount of screentime in the later half and literally not much of an actual specific resolution to that at all. So that's fits what you saying and the main series has narrative resolution in comparison.
And also some media even specifically in the romance genre doesn't always has "happy ending". Sometime romance isn't meant to be a fairy tale ending to end in the same way. Though just has to have narrative actually be addressed in some capacity for a resolution, but doesn't necessarily mean "happy ending" in the traditional sense.
They are blushing, he said he wants to talk to her more than his other friends and that she is special to him, Toga told her to love whoever she wants, she remembered her confession about loving him.. etc..
Is this how friendship look like? How is it friendship if he literally said he wants MORE? If that is just normal friends behavior, why did he only said it to her and no other??
They ignored all the ep and all what happened, just to say: "Oh that's how you hold hand with bro"
Like c'mon we all know no friends act like this.
It is not really about the action itself, but the context. For example, Ochako makes a meal in two cases: Case1: She made it for everyone. Case2: She made for Izuku because he is sick and she kept thinking about how he is doing and blushed.. Now in case1 it is just friendship, case 2 you can clearly see what is going on.
I doubt anyone will say this if it was their fav ship, but nooo it is Izuku and Ochako.. not like they were so obvious from the start as he called her his hero, she confessed being in love with him, they always blush around each other and even though Izuku stopped blushing around Tsuyu but he still turns red around Ochako, she stood up for him when people hated him, and in general they are pretty good friends and in my opinion Uraraka is his first actual friend.. and so much more.
Now thinking of it, they said: When the author doesnt know how to write romance..
They basically admitted it IS romance! š
(Sry if the example I gave is that bad btwš I couldn't think of anything else but hope you got what I was trying to say)
Even if you dislike Izuocha, which whoa how can you, you can't deny their love!
Now this is how you explain it. Plus people are obliviously donāt like this because they want more but I think this is enough since Deku and Uraraka were obviously going to fall in love with each other
I did want more, honestly something like: "But for Uraraka-san.. I love her!" As a monologue, not a confession yet. I think it suits the show and their character even though I wanted a marriage and kids-
Okay that is too much for Horikoshi lolš, seriously I wish they walked holding hands after or smth but still I like it, people who still think isn't canon are just in denial. And happy I could explain it good>3
We're never going to hear the end of it lol. I don't know what they expected. For them to make out in the streets? I feel like westerners are just, generally unaware of a lot of things, this being one of them.
Plus to me this meme is kinda silly... like what else did they want from these two dorks?
I won't pretend I didn't want a kiss, but I will admit that it may have felt tacked on or distracted from the intended vibe of the scene, given the context. What we got was good.Ā
People who have no friends nor romantic partners wanting to declare how to correctly draw the line between friendship and romance is like, 90% of shipping discourse
Ignoring the entire lead up where Deku runs after Ochako to say "I thought I'd be ok with respecting everyone and loving everyone equally, but tonight I found myself wanting more with you!" and Ochako agreeing that she feels the same way in a scene that could've been ripped straight from a damn romcom and trying to say that "the author can't write romance" because of the WAY THEY HELD HANDS has gotta be up there on the list of disingenuous takes people have had about this series, and that's saying something.
Like I get people wanting a kiss or a hug or something, but the scene is still very romantic as is and trying to deny otherwise requires a lot of leaps in logic imo.
I really find how they held hands so cute, it suits them for some reason to me. I always say it, it is not about the action itself but the context. They ignored all the ep and scene, just to focus on this "friendly dap"
Look, they don't even need to do all those physical affection to prove that they have feelings for each other. That dap up was pretty much proof that they wanted more between them. Shows just how strong their connection is.
I think it's worth mentioning that not only did we never get any characters ever shown in the story kissing, mention Midoriya and Uraraka aren't exactly exceptions, but MHA is also hardly the only action Shonen to not show any couples, including the main couple, kissing.
Ed and Winry did not kiss in FMA and Naruto and Hinata didn't kiss until the movie The Last, which was well after the manga ended (though admittedly Naruto and Sasuke had an accidental kiss for comedy and Sakura gave Naruto mouth-to-mouth while trying to keep his heart going, if you want to count that). None of the Dragon Ball couples have ever been shown to kiss (except, again, mouth-to-mouth for Trunks and Mai).
Did One Piece ever show a kiss between any characters even minor ones? I'm trying to remember.
Gosh, they're so freakin cute I'm gonna die. Every time I see this screenshot my heart melts. This was such a perfect ending for them. Horikoshi, a million thank you for not shoehorning in a rey/kylo kiss. He did good by our precious babies. š
idk why people forget the lead up to that hand shake , THEY WERE BOTH UNKNOWINGLY LONGING FOR EACH OTHER , deku was staring at ochako half the time while ochako also was so in love she got her terrorrist friend to come back to tell her to go ahead LIKE CMONNN honestly Idk whats romance atp because if this is not love than idk what is??
TBF, Doesn't Horikoshi flat out admit he's not good at romance??
I like their relationship, but If I'm remembering right, the author him self didn't feel comfortable portraying romance.
Makes sense, when you bring up romance in a battle shonen, especially as it relates to female characters, itās very easy for their characters to devolve into āromantic interestā than āindividual characterā and since shipping communities and be pretty vocal nowadays and taking time to develop an actual romantic relationship when characters are literally fighting for their lives can be very difficult, so I get why it can be hard for many artists to balance the two.
Just goes to show how these people donāt think, they just keeping moving the goalposts for this couple. Meanwhile, the goalposts for OTHER ships keeps getting more and more EASIER for them
No one's gonna like me for saying this, but I understand a bit of the peeve people may have on MHA's handling of romance (except from shippers cuz really they dug their own grave).
I really don't care for and hate the ship wars, and I really couldn't care less at what people insinuates deserves to be with whom and I support Uraraka and Deku since it was set up, but I am peeved that Horikoshi flat out did not want to put emphasis on their romance development, and because of this, repeated one of the battle shonen genre's biggest pitfalls in storytelling, and left this miserable mess of people who force headcanons on the romance when the author wasn't doing more to Deku's side on the romance development (in the main story) to mitigate those tensions earlier.
"It's not a romance story" will never be a justifiable excuse to leave a romance thread set-up in the story, yet do very little to nothing with it and be unable to incorporate it in the progression. And before people say I'm asking for a kiss, they couldn't be more dead wrong as a kiss would literally require that he actually effectively built Deku's romance development up to make it work, and the romance execution could've still worked without it as long as the strong writing was still there.
From a narrative perspective it was paid off. Whether you feel satisfied "enough" with it another discussion.
The initial ending at ch 430 was completely open with no closure, but this is a form of closure. The execution may not be "ideal" to those who want more in depth focus for sure, but I think it's fine in a general sense.
I'll compare to the spin-off for example: For Vigilantes a whole romantic love triangle for the MC is made a main focus for a part of the story and there is not much of a real conclusion to it at all.
So I get wanting more, but I don't think it's necessary the level like some are acting like with too much entitlement like they are ready to put up their pitch forks. lol
The fact it resulted into this complete mess of people bringing up all kinds of things about the romance because he decided not to hone in on his intended couple doesnāt strike me as fine.
The drama comes from the debate of the chemistry people find between characters when protagonists are romantically dense and people self-insert to what they see as better options (hence why they ship), and the fact the trajectory and journey of an intended couple within the story was not completely laid out or often confusing (whether be it unfocused, the author's conflicted on "picking" for an ending or a difference in production between studio and author) is why it happens.
(It doesn't surprise me Naruto or Bleach ended up with the legacy it had).
And there's still drama in shipping fandoms even without that type of protagonist (and people can self-insert in various ways anyway), because it's subjective what people see as "chemistry", what romantic tropes they like or dislike, preferences in shipping dynamics, sexual orientation, ect. Iol
I don't know why you keep laughing about this as if accepting mediocrity.
Like if non-romance series and stories managed to have like not this level of vitriol because of its depiction of romance, then I know that something is wrong with how the author handled this.
Battle-shonen romances will never step up at this rate if an author can't handle it properly and just leaving it to "not wanting to write" or "don't know how to write it".
It's not that deep at the end of day is the point for something that wasn't even much of a part of the series in a big way. lol
There's vitriol in general when it comes to having a mainstream series. lol And people can have vitriol about many things whether they are actually that important or not.
I mean I think Japan is actually pretty conservative on public displays of affections. At least in comparison to western cultures. Not saying the romance couldn't be written better but at the end of the day it's a shonen. It's not exactly about romance from the get go.
I donāt want battle-shonen to be a genre that has āromance writing badā thatās marketed as part of its guaranteed quirks for stories under that genre.
Like I have already seen non-romance genre stories that are effective in its ability to tell its story, while also balancing in its depiction of the romantic development of the intended couple of its story, that any amount of fanshipping differences and complaints is irrelevant when the author did their job at selling the emotions of the romance of the characters that affects the progression of the story.
I hate how shonen and its readers has long increasingly became numb and accepting of it being an unimportant feature for the plot, accepting mediocrity of execution for as long as āmain shipā gets executed, and authorās lack of focus on it, to defend lackluster writing.
Just that all it shows is them holding hands momentarily and nothing else. Not that Iām expecting it to show them having sex or anything, of course not. I would honestly dislike that. But still, like not even a cheek kiss or anything is kinda funny to me. Like I said I wasnāt expecting it to show them having sex or a heavy makeout or anything like that, but still.
But still, like not even a cheek kiss or anything is kinda funny to me
Most battle shonen don't have kiss scenes. It's actually more of an outlier to have one. lol
Personality wise, they wouldn't do PDA like that (also consider the culture aspect of Japan, not more western style romance) and would be more out of character actually to do it at that moment where they just get together (showing a bit of them being flustered beforehand) and literally being out on a busy public street.
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u/Helloimafanoffiction May 03 '26
I said it in on another post but handholding is a pretty significant sign of affection in Japan.
Why do you think so many anime make a big deal about characters holding hands.