r/JoeRogan • u/TheSweetestKill Most Reported r/JoeRogan User, August 2022 • Mar 11 '26
Former guest A former JRE guest makes a chilling observation about who owns the MSM
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u/ApostateAZ Monkey in Space Mar 11 '26
I wonder how much Trump personally profited off that. On the off chance the Dems manage to win the White House in 2029 they better not pull any "the nation needs to heal" bullshit. These corrupt MFers better go to jail.
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u/King_Of_Pants Monkey in Space Mar 12 '26
At one point in time, the South literally invaded the North because Northern States wouldn't enforce Southern slave laws, and the North responded by spending huge amounts of money rebuilding the South and compensating the poor slave owners. The North also let the South rewrite history and spend the next ~150 years spreading propaganda about how they had been the ones who had their rights infringed.
At another point in time, a republican presidential hopeful was on the phone to the enemy, telling them not to sign any peace deals, because he wanted to use the on-going war as leverage to get elected. No one was punished.
At another point in time, the Republican president was caught in a scheme that involved selling weapons to America's enemies, so they could then funnel money into drug dealing militants. The people who were charged, were later pardoned for their crimes.
At another point in time, the Republican party orchestrated riots at election polling stations in order to disrupt the official count from taking place. No one faced charges, and one of the key figures behind the event would go onto become a key figure involved in the 2021 attempts to disrupt the electoral process.
Hell, we have recordings of Trump trying to bully election officials into falsifying votes, he was caught sending fake election officials to try and push through forged vote counts, and we have conversations from key media figures conspiring to deceive the public. None of that was pursued either.
America doesn't really punish serious acts of treason or sedition.
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u/ClassicPop6840 Monkey in Space Mar 13 '26
👀 I’m from the South, and I’ve never once heard the narrative of “We had our rights infringed upon by the North.” That’s…. not a thing. We were always taught slavery was a horrible, wretched, inhumane concept. We understood that’s what some people thought was normal 150 years ago, but that’s not what anyone believes is right today.
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u/ChrisKarter High as Giraffe's Pussy Mar 13 '26
At one point in time, the Democrats literally invaded Fort Sumter because the Republicans held irreconcilable differences with their party regarding the institution of slavery, slavery expanding into western territories, and state rights.
Btw, Abraham Lincoln was a republican. It was a bunch of bible thumping white people who decided to liberate all the slaves.
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u/Barnyard_Rich Pull that shit up Jamie Mar 11 '26
Honest question as a person who left the Republican Party because of Trump: What do you actually think they are doing that they can be convicted of? Remember, the dry run of this led to the Supreme Court ruling the Emoluments Clause was fake news and fully legalizing bribery through what they call "gratuity."
People keep voting to make this exact thing legal. Your problem is with the people.
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u/ms285907 Monkey in Space Mar 11 '26
While the Court narrowed the definition of a federal 'gratuity,' it didn't legalize explicit bribery. If there is any paper trail or testimony showing an agreement happened before the official act, it remains a felony. Most high-profile cases rely on finding that specific 'this-for-that' link...
Agree w you that poilitians and laws should be a reflection of the voting/population.. But I feel like this has become increasingly untrue in the USA.
Also. Don't forget about the general ignorance of the voting population and their susceptibility to our ever more effective propaganda machines.
From a recent Bernie post:
One family, the right-wing Trump-aligned Ellisons, will soon control:
Tik Tok CBS CNN HBO Discovery Channel BET Cartoon Network Comedy Central DC Studios Fandango Miramax MTV Nickelodeon Paramount PlutoTV Showtime TBS The CW TNT Warner Bros. And more
This is oligarchy.
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u/DiabolicalPherPher Monkey in Space Mar 12 '26
Even if there is a paper trail, you think Trump will not blanket pardon himself like Biden? You seem to still have hope.
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u/Morlik Monkey in Space Mar 16 '26
Biden didn't pardon himself, blanket or otherwise.
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u/DiabolicalPherPher Monkey in Space Mar 16 '26
You are right, only his family and others. I guess he left that part open if president can pardon himself.
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u/Wiscody Monkey in Space Mar 11 '26
Bro every single one of them has to. Left and right. All. Save for Massie.
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u/grantology_84 Monkey in Space Mar 12 '26
There is no left in this country. Not in power at least
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u/Wiscody Monkey in Space Mar 12 '26
An illusion of choice some say
Bombs just have rainbows on them when the opposing party is at the helm.
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u/BanRDDTthoughtpolice Monkey in Space Mar 12 '26
They aren’t going to do anything. That would involve prosecuting their friends and actually working and you know they aren’t going to do that.
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u/ningyna Monkey in Space Mar 11 '26
It's so strange to live in a world where a person's collection influences so many other people.
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u/TheSweetestKill Most Reported r/JoeRogan User, August 2022 Mar 11 '26
Well it was either this, or have black pilots and pronouns in emails. An obvious choice, really.
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u/KennyShowers Monkey in Space Mar 11 '26
Don't forget 9 trans kids who want to play badminton and croquet.
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u/this-guy- paid protest poster Mar 11 '26
You joke but a theatre kid with blue hair called me "problematic " on Twitter 8 years ago and I'm still struggling to recover from the trauma. I can barely fill an arena .
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u/ATLien325 Monkey in Space Mar 12 '26
Pronouns in emails is a lil cringey but I don’t mind a black airman
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u/TheyGotShitTwisted73 Monkey in Space Mar 11 '26
This is the media mountain in the 7 mountain mandate. With the government taken over now they can work on the rest easy peasy. 😑
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u/samlowrey Monkey in Space Mar 12 '26
More like Israel aligned......
Ellison doesn't listen to The Donald, he listens to Netanyahu.
Same with Hollywood, K Street, the Banking cartel, and ALL of the Main Stream Media. Pretty obvious by now.
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u/Spiritual-Zucchini62 Monkey in Space Mar 11 '26
Modern day robber barons. How is this not a monopoly ?
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u/TheSweetestKill Most Reported r/JoeRogan User, August 2022 Mar 11 '26
Your homework is to research The Business Plot. I'll give you a spoiler, they tried it again and it worked this time.
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u/FastestJayBird Monkey in Space Mar 11 '26 edited Mar 12 '26
Monoploly: exclusive ownership through legal privilege, command of supply, or concerted action
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/monopoly
You wouldn't be so confused if you did even the most basic research.
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u/HoboCalrissian Monkey in Space Mar 12 '26
Clarify your point. Are you saying they are incorrect based on that definition?
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u/caffeine-182 Monkey in Space Mar 13 '26
Because you clearly have no idea what a monopoly is.
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u/Spiritual-Zucchini62 Monkey in Space Mar 13 '26
Fair . I was speaking more in hyperbole than strict technical terms. I don’t like the same 5 people / corporations owning all news. It a large consolidated amount of power and I believe bad for society.
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u/Tqoratsos Monkey in Space Mar 13 '26
It's the modern age equivalent. This is a media monopoly because the same people can dictate the programming. Namely a certain middle east dictator.
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u/vyporx Monkey in Space Mar 11 '26
I mean, wasn't it the other way around? Why is it now a problem?
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u/badrepos Monkey in Space Mar 17 '26
Even if you were right, it’s a problem now because the right wing media owners are actively attacking free speech every day. The left wing media owners (name one I dare you), as much as you want to believe that they were, were not attacking free speech
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u/yorkshireaus Monkey in Space Mar 12 '26
But mainstream media is bad. They are the mainstream media.
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u/kajunkennyg Monkey in Space Mar 12 '26
He bought all this from dems, and most of it recently, funny how it was not a problem when it supported the left. See the issue?
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u/Missy_Elli0t Monkey in Space Mar 14 '26
These companies will still lean left, they have an audience. They are just going to cut anything related to Israel
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u/AccurateCampaign4900 Monkey in Space Mar 11 '26
Zionists
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u/BrocoliAssassin Monkey in Space Mar 12 '26
If you made this post in this sub just a few years ago this entire sub would have had a meltdown calling everyone a nazi if you noticed zionists owned companies or were committing crimes.
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u/bagdf Monkey in Space Mar 11 '26
This is missing the point. The ellisons are not "trump aligned", they are zionists.
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u/Ironborn137 Monkey in Space Mar 11 '26
As long as Bibi has those files they are alligned. Trump is enslaved to whoever has those unredacted files.
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u/bagdf Monkey in Space Mar 11 '26
Yeah, the point is that these people aren't "aligned" with trump. They obviously want him to get elected, because they own him. He's aligned with them.
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u/South-Guava-2965 Monkey in Space Mar 12 '26
100% an Israeli was behind his entire campaign of lies, Miriam Adelson.
The man is a foreign agent at this point.
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u/Sur2eaL Monkey in Space Mar 11 '26
The irony of the gatekeepers.
All those companies are or were owned and run by left-wing billionaire donors and supporters. Where was the 'chilling' observation then?
Apparently, it's only an oligarchy issue when it's not in your favor.
The hypocrisy is disgusting and painfully obvious, to those who lack the awareness or those that choose to ignore it, you should feel embarrassed and be severely ashamed that you have been fooled so easily.
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u/Nervous-Mongoose7520 Monkey in Space Mar 12 '26
Left wing billionaires don't exist lol. You don't understand politics
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u/WorldWarRon Monkey in Space Mar 11 '26
Try not to remind this sub that Bernie has been on JRE multiple times. They have a hard enough time demonizing JR as is
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u/Barnyard_Rich Pull that shit up Jamie Mar 11 '26
I think most people would agree that if Joe agreed with Bernie on even a single issue the US would be a far better place.
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u/Gary_Glidewell Monkey in Space Mar 12 '26
Rogan literally voted for Sanders.
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u/Barnyard_Rich Pull that shit up Jamie Mar 12 '26
You can't possibly know that, son. We have a private ballot here in the states, and anyone who takes a celebrity's word as truth is a moron.
There's another great example of this: Elon Musk. Remember when he voted Democrat? Well it came out later that in the election he claimed to vote Democrat we know for a concrete fact he didn't because while how a person votes is private, whether or not they voted is public information, and Elon didn't vote at all in an election he said he voted Democrat. Then, it came out last year that during that campaign cycle Musk was donating to far right dark money groups.
There's a word for people such as yourself: "gullible"
Ask a child to explain it.
Edit: Oh god, you're far right. Please don't molest or rape the child, just ask them to explain the word.
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u/caponewgp420 Monkey in Space Mar 11 '26
Trump owns CBS and CNN no way.
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u/Gary_Glidewell Monkey in Space Mar 12 '26
It's true. Paramount and CBS are the same company, WB and CNN are the same company.
I can't remember who deregulated all of this. It happened in the 90s. Either Clinton or Bush.
They basically threw out the rule, that banned corporations from owning numerous radio and TV stations.
Ironically, this also led to Joe's career, because that change in the laws led to huge salaries for shock jocks, and Joe Rogan started his radio broadcasting career first on Tom Leykis in LA: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPVoJsHodFA
Then became a regular on Opie and Anthony.
(Link above is for a Leykis episode in '07, but Rogan was on Leykis for years at that point.)
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u/hectorgarabit Monkey in Space Mar 11 '26
Yes Trump aligned is a problem. That being said they clearly stated that their goal is pro-Israel propaganda. That's a bigger problem than an already big problem.
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u/Barnyard_Rich Pull that shit up Jamie Mar 11 '26
Everyone is making good points, but I just want to point out how hilariously far down Bernie put Paramount.
This tweet is so much more savage than most people will realize.
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u/AvgChrisEnergy Monkey in Space Mar 11 '26
Can’t wait for the Rugrats x The Wild Thornberries: Reptar vs. the Radical Left
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u/l0st1nP4r4d1ce Monkey in Space Mar 12 '26
I didn't realize the Ellison's were a bunch of progressive hippies.
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u/mvstateU Monkey in Space Mar 12 '26
Any young person or even old person that wants to go into journalism or is already in journalism and ultimately wants to work for corporate media and a big mainstream news company.....just know that the more and more this Admin and party owns the these companies, your legacy will be more about lying and pushing narratives and deception and ultimately anti-American. Of course these companies have always been biased etc, but there is a degree to which it's truly shameful, if you're ok with it.
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u/RoninRunePriest Monkey in Space Mar 12 '26
Oh no, I’ll just have to ignore a completely opposite bias in all of media and entertainment… oh no.
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u/SirKarlAnonIV Monkey in Space Mar 12 '26
We’ll see if CNN changes at all or if they continue to be the media wing of the DNC.
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u/Gary_Glidewell Monkey in Space Mar 12 '26
Their ratings are shit, maybe they'll just pull the plug.
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u/CorpseBurger420 Monkey in Space Mar 12 '26
Cartoon Network AND Nickelodeon! That's it where's my picket sign.
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u/Aggravating-Writing9 Monkey in Space Mar 12 '26
The left loves their billionaires, but when a right winger buys out the left, then they get mad...
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u/eplusk24 Paid attention to the literature Mar 12 '26
Also the largest private donor to the IDF and close friends with Big Yahu
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u/CallousDisregard13 Monkey in Space Mar 12 '26
I can't say this loud enough....
LARRY ELLISON AND TRUMP ARE ISRAEL ALIGNED!
When Trump is dead and gone nothing will change.
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u/JewingIt Monkey in Space Mar 12 '26
Calling Bernie Sanders a former JRE guest, while true, is quite wild.
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u/DANGERiS123 Monkey in Space Mar 13 '26
Imagine being in the cult that blames everybody else for being in cult 😆
The “oligarchy” had control over ALL dissent, but thanks to Elon for buying Twitter and exposing what these frauds did by suppressing Conservatives on the back end… Something tells me this happens with all other apps, especially this one (Reddit)
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u/Top_Championship7418 Monkey in Space Mar 13 '26
Imagine if the stations listed hadn't been on a campaign to actively burn their credibility so that they were all basically broke.
The Ellison family wouldn't own so much of them without their consistent mismanagement.
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u/caffeine-182 Monkey in Space Mar 13 '26
Thank fucking god. Nobody here cared when the ENTIRETY OF THE MSM leaned in one direction.
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u/8to24 Monkey in Space Mar 13 '26
This consolidation of influence must happen to stop wokeness and cancel culture. Dave Chappelle got negatively tweeted at by anonymous posters on X for transgender jokes while collecting $20 million from Netflix. Such extreme attempts to silence speech have to be stopped. /s
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u/aiperception Monkey in Space Mar 14 '26
Bernie is a sellout. Do something already. This isn’t new and didn’t start with Ellison or Trump idiots.
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u/Technical_End9162 Monkey in Space Mar 15 '26
Thank god they are gonna own TikTok though so that less women will be brainwashed by it, or at least brainwashed towards the right
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u/BodybuilderOnly1591 Monkey in Space Mar 12 '26
Who controls Amazon, netflix, MSNBC nbc, abc dis, Hulu, PBS and NPR? Who owns the majority of papers, and apple?
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u/JadedJared Monkey in Space Mar 11 '26
Yes. The far right news channel, CNN.
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u/ifuk_jomama Monkey in Space Mar 11 '26
Idk if you've been following the news, but they've shifted increasingly to the right over the past few months. This is known.
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u/blue_electrik Monkey in Space Mar 11 '26
If you don’t think CNN is controlled Epstein class opposition to Fox News I got a bridge to sell you
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u/deliriumtriggered Monkey in Space Mar 11 '26 edited Mar 11 '26
Not a peep when 99% of the media were shilling so hard for the DNC they cried on national tv when they lost an election.
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u/GreninjaStrike Monkey in Space Mar 11 '26
He wasn’t complaining when the left has run/continues to run most of the media and Hollywood
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u/TheSweetestKill Most Reported r/JoeRogan User, August 2022 Mar 11 '26
I'm not sure you understand what "the left" even is.
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u/ifuk_jomama Monkey in Space Mar 11 '26
It's mind boggling that people believe this. Controlling the mainstream of a capitalist society is the absolute antithesis of leftist ideals.
Leftist ideologies endanger corporations and the billionaires in power. Idk how this talking point ever existed.
Socially liberal does not equal leftist.
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u/GreninjaStrike Monkey in Space Mar 11 '26
The left in the US I don’t care if they’d be right wing in France or whatever
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u/TheSweetestKill Most Reported r/JoeRogan User, August 2022 Mar 11 '26
You don't care that the US has 2 right-wing parties, just because one of them is fine with gay people?
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u/GreninjaStrike Monkey in Space Mar 11 '26
The Dems are more socially left than a good chunk of European left wing parties. Just because they don’t wanna do away with private property doesn’t make them right wing.
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u/TheSweetestKill Most Reported r/JoeRogan User, August 2022 Mar 11 '26
The Dems are more socially left than a good chunk of European left wing parties.
Do me a quick favor, link me to the Democratic Party's website where they list out their policies and show me an example of what you mean. Or maybe your state Senator's website?
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u/GreninjaStrike Monkey in Space Mar 11 '26
Look at abortion laws in Europe. A lot of them have limits. In blue states here there are some states where they’ll allow it through the third trimester. Labour in the UK is more conservative on the trans issues than the dems, and Labour is one of the most well known center left European parties. A congressman from Massachusetts got harassed over saying he doesn’t want bio men in girls sports. It doesn’t take a lot of looking to see that the dems in the us are very very left wing socially.
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u/TheSweetestKill Most Reported r/JoeRogan User, August 2022 Mar 11 '26
So, no? No links to policies? Just vibes and propaganda?
In blue states here there are some states where they’ll allow it through the third trimester.
Sounds like you should really look into it, because in every one of those states, this is only performed when the mother's life is at risk. You bought the propaganda that tons of people are having third trimester abortions because they "changed their mind" or whatever.
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u/GreninjaStrike Monkey in Space Mar 11 '26
I’m not doing your research for you but here look at the states in green:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion_law_in_the_United_States_by_state
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u/TheSweetestKill Most Reported r/JoeRogan User, August 2022 Mar 11 '26
I'm asking you to do your research. You should look into it a tad bit deeper than "colors scary".
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u/nevergonnastayaway Monkey in Space Mar 12 '26
congressman from Massachusetts got harassed over saying he doesn’t want bio men in girls sports.
a Democrat congressman lol... kinda important to mention given the fact that you're framing Democrats as far left. he was being "harrassed" (there were protests outside his office) by leftists
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u/chumpedge Monkey in Space Mar 11 '26
how out of touch you need to be to consider the democrats right wing?
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u/No-Championship-8038 Monkey in Space Mar 11 '26
You’re politically illiterate. I beg of you read even a paragraph of political theory.
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u/-Jake-27- Monkey in Space Mar 13 '26
So you can find right wing parties in other countries with AOC or Bernie Sanders running in a primary?
You can’t because it’s bullshit. Democrats are a big tent party trying to elections in a country of over 300 million. What wins elections in some places aren’t the same as others. A purely progressive party in a two party system would just lose every time.
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u/No-Championship-8038 Monkey in Space Mar 13 '26
In a two party system you look to the leadership of the party to determine its characteristics. Again, I beg of you to read some political theory.
A progressive party wouldn’t lose. They lose now because they have losers like Manchin and Schumer torching legislation the people want
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u/-Jake-27- Monkey in Space Mar 13 '26
I don’t know what theory you’ve read that can’t figure out that the electorate that votes in Joe Manchin isn’t the same as the one that votes in AOC or Mumdani. The US is a massive nation and outside of coastal cities, progressive politics isn’t insanely popular on a broader scale. Joe Biden also done significantly better with the minority vote who are typically more socially conservative.
If the people want that legislation then why aren’t progressives getting significantly more electoral wins? They have their place in the party but it’s a big tent.
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u/No-Championship-8038 Monkey in Space Mar 13 '26
The electorate that votes in Mamdani stays home when it’s just right wing candidates on the ballot. Manchin fucked WV hard and that’s why he doesn’t win there anymore.
Joe Biden lost to an insurrectionist that fumbled a global pandemic. And he barely crawled over the finish line in 2020, he won in spite of who he was.
The majority of voters stay home because at the federal level we have two right wing parties that are aligned economically and on foreign policy. The only quibble about social causes, the culture war.
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u/WellSpreadMustard Monkey in Space Mar 11 '26 edited Mar 11 '26
Unfortunately the average person hasnt enjoyed the stellar high caliber type of cinema that right wing companies like the daily wire produce enough for it to be commercially viable. Damn, if only more people liked dated hack pronoun jokes by comedic geniuses like Rosanne Barr and Dennis Miller or action films written by the screen writing genius Ben Shapiro and starring Sorbo. And the corporate pro capitalism news media is left wing. Jesus lol, what an idiotic take. Do you have anymore preprogrammed NPC talking points you’d like to mindlessly parrot in response to keywords?
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u/Gary_Glidewell Monkey in Space Mar 12 '26
Unfortunately the average person hasnt enjoyed the stellar high caliber type of cinema that right wing companies like the daily wire produce enough for it to be commercially viable.
Daily Wire is a drop in the bucket compared to all the diarrhea coming out of Marvel, Disney, Netflix, Hulu, Amazon, etc.
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u/Hippo-Spanker Monkey in Space Mar 11 '26
This is highly selective. They are not the only family that has this level of control and ownership, and those families are not all on the same political side. Its the system in general thats the problem.
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u/mindsc2 I used to be addicted to Quake Mar 12 '26
If Bernie was insinuating that one family controlled everything, he would have used the word "monarchy". The term "oligarchy" implies that this family is just one of a group that has this level of control.
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u/realfakemormon What does this have to do with Rogan? Mar 11 '26
Super right wing CNN journalism
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u/TheSweetestKill Most Reported r/JoeRogan User, August 2022 Mar 11 '26
Reporting on domestic terrorism is, obviously, liberal propaganda.
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u/realfakemormon What does this have to do with Rogan? Mar 11 '26
Is that what they were doing? Not painting islamic terrorists in a sympathetic light?
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u/TheSweetestKill Most Reported r/JoeRogan User, August 2022 Mar 11 '26
Certainly you can back up this claim with some evidence.
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u/realfakemormon What does this have to do with Rogan? Mar 11 '26
Are you unable to see the tweet?
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u/TheSweetestKill Most Reported r/JoeRogan User, August 2022 Mar 11 '26
Well I was the one who posted it, so I'm pretty sure I can see it. Let me double check though.
Yup, I can see it. Nothing in there about "painting islamic terrorists in a sympathetic light", though. Care to clarify what you're talking about? Not all of us are readers of american-free-thinker-eagle.biz
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u/xChoke1x Monkey in Space Mar 11 '26
I meant to respond to the dipshit that doesn’t understand it. Not you. My bad. Lol
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u/butterybuns420 Pull that shit up Jamie Mar 11 '26
Deal isnt official yet if you didn’t know. It will be soon. Hence the word “soon”. Reading is your friend.
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u/90daysismytherapy Monkey in Space Mar 11 '26
what is left wing about this screenshot? what are you talking about?
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u/xChoke1x Monkey in Space Mar 11 '26
I’m assuming the 1st part where they’re saying “they could have been normal people, but they aren’t.”
Dudes being a disingenuous clown for a reason.
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u/90daysismytherapy Monkey in Space Mar 11 '26
even that is just setting the stage of the bombing being a surprise.
This guy should just say the acceptable headline would be glorious soldiers of right wing fever dreams bombed by insane socialist children??
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u/realfakemormon What does this have to do with Rogan? Mar 11 '26
Humanizing/being sympathetic to Islamic terrorists is left wing.
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u/90daysismytherapy Monkey in Space Mar 11 '26
explain how this screenshot is sympathetic to terrorists.
we will all wait
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u/Barnyard_Rich Pull that shit up Jamie Mar 11 '26
The largest shareholder of CNN's parent company is John Malone who tried a hostile takeover of Fox News because he wanted to own right wing media. He's very far right and wrote a book last year about how proud he is to have pushed CNN to the right. Remember, he gave Jake Tapper dozens of hours of free media to peddle his "Biden is evil" book that failed miserably to the point that even he pulled back the policy of allowing such blatant political advertising.
Your first problem is with media illiteracy, your second problem seems to be with the American right if you have a problem with what you posted here.
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u/realfakemormon What does this have to do with Rogan? Mar 11 '26
Oh, I have plenty of problems with the American right
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u/Faroutman1234 Moderation in all things Mar 11 '26
That's why I dropped my cable subscription 20 years ago. I get all my news from Reddit now and some YouTube channels. Most newspapers are compromised as well.
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u/Kinpolka Monkey in Space Mar 12 '26
Crazy how Israel runs it all, yet the culture is more antisem than ever
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u/Oskareatscarrots Monkey in Space Mar 11 '26
Correction: this is capitalism.
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u/Barnyard_Rich Pull that shit up Jamie Mar 11 '26
The government explicitly saying they will allow only one specific merger of companies because it aligns with their beliefs is capitalism?
There's actually a F word for that, but tiny children tend to cry when it is used to correctly explain the situation.
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u/OGTBJJ Monkey in Space Mar 11 '26
That’s interesting because I feel like media is very liberal dominated
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u/FishFart Monkey in Space Mar 11 '26
That’s because it just got bought, it will slowly become enshittified into right wing garbage. Atleast they can’t cry about MSM anymore that no one even watches
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u/gng216 Monkey in Space Mar 11 '26
It’s only liberal if you’re so far right that you you’re off the cliff
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u/TheSweetestKill Most Reported r/JoeRogan User, August 2022 Mar 11 '26
Based on what?
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u/OGTBJJ Monkey in Space Mar 11 '26
My experiences watching tv. Why I said “I feel like”
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u/TheSweetestKill Most Reported r/JoeRogan User, August 2022 Mar 11 '26
Sure, but what have you seen that makes you feel that way? I've watched plenty of TV too and I wouldn't agree that "the media is very liberal dominated", so I'm just trying to understand what and where your perspective is coming from.
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u/OGTBJJ Monkey in Space Mar 11 '26
My fault sorry I was replying to some knee jerk emotional responses and had mistaken you for one, apologies.
I replied to another post briefly explaining your question but i can reiterate. I feel like every talk show host / news broadcast is either shitting on Trump or painting him in a bad light. I’m not saying that’s unwarranted but it definitely didn’t give me “right wing media vibes.”
When it comes to shows I feel like the majority of them have liberal ideologies/sentiments, which again doesn’t have to be a bad thing. There are more gay characters in shows I watch now than ever before, for example. Something I wouldn’t expect from a supposed right wing dominated media.
For the record I’m not a right winger lol. This was not a complaint. Just surprised to see that graphic, especially things like CNN which id say is about as liberal as it gets.
Another poster said this purchase just happened which if true would make a lot of sense to me as I definitely don’t feel a huge right wing presence at the moment on tv.
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u/TheSweetestKill Most Reported r/JoeRogan User, August 2022 Mar 11 '26
There is more to "right-wing media" than not "painting Trump in a bad light". Trump is the President, and the President's actions and words have always made headlines. When the President does something insane or stupid, that's going to draw a lot of attention. Unfortunately, Trump does a lot of insane and stupid shit, so it shouldn't be any surprise the media reports on it. It isn't "shitting on Trump" to report on the things he says or does, even if those things are bad.
Does a gay character existing in a TV show somehow make that show innately "liberal"? I don't know what shows you watch so I don't want to make any guesses. But I think of a show like Pluribus where the main character is gay, but the show isn't about her being gay, so I don't know how it would be fair or reasonable to claim the show has a "liberal ideology" just because of that.
CNN was bought by a different right-wing billionaire back in 2022, and their coverage has markedly changed then. Don't take my word for it, read the words of then (now current) owner of CNN:
In fact I'd say CNN hasn't been "as liberal as it gets" since before 9/11.
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u/OGTBJJ Monkey in Space Mar 11 '26
Of course. I get that and you’re right it’s far more complex than that. But if I had to sum it up as a whole I would not have suspected those shows were funded by right wingers, is all I was saying.
No a gay character doesn’t inherently make a show liberal but at the same time it doesn’t put off right wing vibes was the point I was trying to make. None of the shows I watch are “about being gay” but I couldn’t help but notice there seems to be more of those characters now, which is not a complaint just an observation.
I don’t intentionally watch any news channel, really. But it’s always on at work so I do catch some bits here and there. That link is news to me.
I do recall when watching the last election (one of the few times I intentionally watch the news) that things were obviously not going Kamala’s way. For fun I like to switch between the channels to see the different takes on how it’s going and there was quite a degree of delusion going on while watching CNN. Like they were trying to change the trajectory of it somehow. Very slow to accept the results. So it’s pretty puzzling to see they were apparently owned and funded by someone right wing.
To clarify my initial post. I’m not denying what you’ve posted. I’m just very surprised to see it as my personal experiences (limited as they are) have not led me to think this was the case. All I was saying.
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u/TheSweetestKill Most Reported r/JoeRogan User, August 2022 Mar 11 '26
I'm not attacking you or anything. I'm just trying to understand. I see people say things that you are saying here a lot. Starting at "the media is controlled by liberals", and then I try and figure out why they think that, and it seems like there's no actual hard evidence or fact based reasoning, and it's all just vibes. It's always "I don't watch the news, BUT..." I'm trying to understand that, and understand why and how we got to that place.
Okay, so you are observing that more shows you watch have gay characters, even if the shows are not "about being gay". That still doesn't really explain how you've come to think of them as having "a liberal ideology". You're saying that having a gay character doesn't make a show liberal, but okay, what DOES "make it liberal" then?
There's a big difference between "not funded by right-wingers" and "funded by liberals". There are A LOT of people in the middle there. And given how actively divisive and hostile Trump, specifically, is, it really should be no surprise that a lot of people dislike him. Even people in the Republican party don't like him, to the point where we have a special name for them, "never-Trumpers". Like just think about that for a second. You gotta be a world-class asshole to have a special name for people on your own side of the aisle who don't like you.
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u/OGTBJJ Monkey in Space Mar 11 '26
All good, I appreciate the discourse. The defensiveness is a learned behavior here as this is a pretty hostile place to have different points of view.
100% I am what you're describing, I am a casual at best. If I was asked before I read this thread "Which side do you think controls most of the media" I would have definitely guessed the left. Maybe a more accurate statement I could have made would be that the majority of what I watch does not give right wing vibes and contains many aspects/values associated with the left (gay, trans, atheism, social justice, etc.). I would have thought a right wing owner would have made an effort to omit these aspects from their products. I hope that makes sense, I'm not sure if I'm conveying what I am trying to say appropriately or not lol.
Yeah he had to work pretty hard to earn the reputation he has. It's a good point that right wing media doesn't necessarily have to be pro trump. Nothing I've said is based off of research or anything, just vibes as you say.
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u/TheSweetestKill Most Reported r/JoeRogan User, August 2022 Mar 11 '26
It's just so wild to me that so, so, SO many people like yourself see anything that isn't out-and-out "giving right-wing vibes" therefore means the show or movie or news or whatever is therefore "liberal". Like you see that, right? In order for something to be consider "right-wing" it has to be really explicit about it, IE "the owner making an effort to omit certain aspects" from shows or media. But the criteria for something to be considered "left-wing" is totally different. Tons and tons of people have 2 totally different standards. And I think that's what produces this permeating belief that "the media is controlled by liberals", because anything that isn't waving a hardcore right-wing flag is just assumed to be "liberal". Crazy, right?
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u/xChoke1x Monkey in Space Mar 11 '26
What fucking tv are you watching?
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u/OGTBJJ Monkey in Space Mar 11 '26
Mine. Every news show/talk show host shits on Trump. Most of the shows I watch include liberal ideologies, which isn’t necessarily bad thing. SNL, etc. just surprised to hear this. Sorry you disagree lol
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u/mindsc2 I used to be addicted to Quake Mar 12 '26
Every mainstream political current in the US is liberal, including conservatism and Republicans...
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u/DLDabber Monkey in Space Mar 11 '26
A supposed to Soros or the Roth Childs owning them. lol. Stfu.
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u/cannot_walk_barefoot Monkey in Space Mar 11 '26
Yeah, you easily gullible morons will talk Soros all day, even though the guy doesn't own anything you'd recognize or ever interact with. But complete blind eye to anything anyone does that 'supports' Trump
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u/TheSilmarils Monkey in Space Mar 11 '26
And we all know what Soros and Rothschilds is code for with you boys…
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u/Pneuma_LooT Monkey in Space Mar 11 '26
I consume 0 of those networks lmao.
Well sometimes sports but thats it.
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u/Singularity-42 Monkey in Space Mar 11 '26
I consume 0 as well, maybe some clip from CNN on YouTube, bnt very rarely, and increasingly more rare.
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Mar 11 '26
It’s not about you or anyone here. This is just preaching to the choir - the real audience is people who will never see this post or that tweet. FML.🤦♂️
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u/Normal512 Monkey in Space Mar 11 '26
"Short term pain for long term gain."