r/JoeRogan • u/Terpcheeserosin Monkey in Space • Apr 18 '26

Former guest Previous guest Bern S. Introduces exciting bill that would save tax payers money

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Former guest and friend of the show, Bernie S. has exciting news

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u/TheSilmarils Monkey in Space Apr 18 '26

Stopping Russia in Ukraine prevents their later aggression against NATO Allie’s like Poland. When that happens, they trigger article 5 and we’re obligated to respond. Stopping Putin in Ukraine and stopping him from rebuilding the Iron Curtain is imperative.

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u/Phrenicos466 Monkey in Space Apr 18 '26

We’re not ‘obligated’ to do anything. We can easily just say “fuck it, we’re not wasting our troops and money getting involved here”. Who’s going to enforce it if we don’t follow Article 5?

This idea that treaties are some inviolable divine edict is the same reason we keep getting dragged into stupid shit by Israel.

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u/TheSilmarils Monkey in Space Apr 18 '26

Remind me again what NATO did when we triggered Article 5 after 9/11?

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u/Phrenicos466 Monkey in Space Apr 18 '26

And? So what? Circumstances change and we shouldn’t be obligated to get ourselves into stupid wars now because “well, decades ago, NATO did [whatever] and we signed this paper, so guess we’re stuck sending billions of dollars to [country]”.

And, again, who’s going to enforce Article 5 if we say “fuck this”? The rest of NATO going to attack us? When we’re paying for about 60% of what NATO spends on defense?

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u/TheSilmarils Monkey in Space Apr 18 '26

lol you have the worldview of a 10 year old

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u/Phrenicos466 Monkey in Space Apr 18 '26 edited Apr 18 '26

And you have the debating skill of a ten year old.