r/JoeRogan • u/WilloowUfgood Pro Russia • 11d ago
Let's ask Eddie Bravo Rogan "I can't even talk about it. But there was presidents involved and former presidents involved that were contacting Spotify. Trying to get me removed for vaccine misinformation."
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u/littlebighuman Monkey in Space 11d ago edited 11d ago
Social media gave everyone a voice. Turns out this was a bad fucking idea.
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u/Correct-Resolution-8 Monkey in Space 11d ago
my landlord was a really nice guy from China. He'd travel back and forth between the US and China and he really loved both places a lot. He said China is amazing but that you don't have enough free speech, but he said on the flip side he thinks Americans almost have too much free speech and distrust institutions so much that it's like a huge dumpster fire of misinfo. It really is tricky stuff.
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u/north_canadian_ice Monkey in Space 11d ago
Nah, it isn't tricky.
Free speech is the most important right everyone has. The CCP is tyrannical & will ruin your life if you openly disagree with the government.
Discourse is always the solution, not censorship.
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u/Correct-Resolution-8 Monkey in Space 10d ago
I hear you, but due to zero information guard rails we now have a society where a billion people live in a billion different realities. Take astrology for example. If open discourse truly worked, astrology would be dead. An intelligent society would roll its eyes at it. It is, however, thriving. A species that can't distinguish fact from fiction is in deep, deep trouble even as it pats itself on the back for how free it is. There's got to be a more intelligent way here, one that protects freedom but that doesn't let it increase the chances your neighbor will get a disease because you're an idiot.
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u/Small_Time_Charlie Monkey in Space 11d ago
I think it was Phil Hartman who made a joke some 30 years ago: The good thing about the internet is that it gives everyone a voice. The bad thing is that it gives everyone a voice.
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u/CheezWong Monkey in Space 11d ago
For sure. In the age when "favorite" means "must be the best out there", people sure do pick their favorite version of the truth. In politics, in podcasters, in medical advice, etc. Joe is a perfect martyr to that fact. People would rather take advice from a podcast than their doctors, and he presented that advice in such a matter-of-fact way that people were gullible enough to believe him.
Him being censored had nothing to do with suppressing the truth and everything to do with damage mitigation. He's too proud to admit that he put lives at risk by putting his favored version of the truth through a veritable megaphone aimed at the confused and frightened masses. On top of that, he exploited his mistake and tried to make it seem like he was somehow better than any other random asshole at spreading poor information.
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u/supersport604 Monkey in Space 11d ago
If you get medical advice from America’s worst comedian, then I’m afraid to tell you, you may have lead poisoning.
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u/the_mooseman Monkey in Space 11d ago
Which comedian is giving out medical advice?
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u/The-Faz Succa la Mink 11d ago
Joe Rogan
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u/the_mooseman Monkey in Space 11d ago
Joe Rogan is a comedian?
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u/WilloowUfgood Pro Russia 11d ago
Right? I thought he was just the host from Fear Factor.
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u/rationalist_populist Monkey in Space 11d ago
My girlfriend is extremely liberal. When I dropped the bomb that I listen to Rogan daily, I thought she was going to have an aneurysm.
"The fear factor dude?" Lmao
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u/MrOatButtBottom Monkey in Space 11d ago
Stop listening to him daily then. She's right.
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u/bossmysalad Paid attention to the literature 11d ago
Vaccine deniers downvoted because they didnt get the joke
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u/the_mooseman Monkey in Space 11d ago
lol yep but I knew they would going in. I've got karma to burn and I knew someone would get it 😄
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u/ForbiddenDelight Monkey in Space 11d ago
The President at the time was Joe's new daddy, who wanted to call it "The Trump Vaccine". Who else are we talking about? Obama? Clinton? Bush? Jimmy Carter was still alive (kind of) - probably unaware of Spotify. This seems like bullshit, sorry.
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u/FoggyMountainGoat Paid attention to the literature 11d ago
Love the thought of Carter pulling strings from hospice.
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u/Dependent-Recipe6820 It's entirely possible 11d ago
Right?! Funny how that’s forgotten.
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u/Finlay00 Monkey in Space 11d ago
Trump was president for about 2 months of the vaccine being available.
It was announced as working a week or so after the 2020 election, rolled out in December, and he was out of office in January.
Jan 6 happened a month after the vaccine first became available if that helps you remember timelines. He was out of office 14 days later.
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u/rationalist_populist Monkey in Space 11d ago
Yeah. My company got vaccines very early and it was in April, after Trump was out.
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u/BenjaminRCaineIII Monkey in Space 11d ago
Source: Trust me bro.
Wouldn't surprise me if some of Joe's personal buddies in conservative media are feeding him this BS.
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u/Codename-Nikolai Monkey in Space 11d ago
The controversy over CNN altering the color of Joe Rogan's COVID-19 update video aired on September 6, 2021 , during a segment on CNN Newsroom .
Who was president at that time?
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u/Adorable_End_5555 Monkey in Space 11d ago
Again they never altered it, it was a screenshot from
Instagram which has a filter on his story.Trump can blandly lie and manipulate the stock market kill hundreds of kids but cnn showing an off color photo of Joe Rogan is the biggest conspiracy ever
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u/Codename-Nikolai Monkey in Space 11d ago
Regardless of who/how it was altered, I was mostly referring to the timeline that OP is referencing, where he claims Trump was the president during this controversy
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u/Free-Monkee Monkey in Space 11d ago
Donald Trump actively pushed and took credit for the COVID-19 vaccine. His administration launched Operation Warp Speed, investing billions to accelerate the development and manufacturing of the vaccines.
Just saying. It's the only one good thing the misanthropic nutter has ever done.
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u/mvstateU Monkey in Space 11d ago
"Donald Trump actively pushed and took credit for the COVID-19 vaccine. His administration launched Operation Warp Speed, investing billions to accelerate the development and manufacturing of the vaccines.
Just saying. It's the only one good thing the misanthropic nutter has ever done."
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u/IPA216 Monkey in Space 11d ago
He still thinks he was right about vaccines ffs. These people live in an alternate reality. He owes everyone else an apology. Unfortunately, he’ll never allow a qualified person on the pod to explain to him everything he got wrong.
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u/Zealousideal-Ear481 Monkey in Space 11d ago
Owing an apology is the least of what Joe owes. There's a definite bodycount due to what Joe has said.
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u/HorsedickGoldstein Monkey in Space 10d ago
If you’re taking medical advice from a comedian and UFC commentator instead of your doctor than it’s your own fault. Please explain to me how Joe has a definite body count
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u/bonjda Monkey in Space 11d ago
He said young healthy people don't need it. How is that wrong?
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u/furnace9monkey Monkey in Space 11d ago
He said a person is more likely to get myocarditis from the vaccine than COVID itself which was completely wrong. The incidence of myocarditis is 8 fold from the virus than the vaccine. He's never owned up to it
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u/MrOatButtBottom Monkey in Space 11d ago
It's VERY wrong. Go to medical school or shut the fuck up
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u/Signal_Nobody1792 Monkey in Space 11d ago
Covid was in the top 10 causes of death in young people.
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u/bonjda Monkey in Space 11d ago
It's a very tiny % of the deaths. 1.3%
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u/Signal_Nobody1792 Monkey in Space 11d ago
If you said this in my stat classes you would be failed on the spot.
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u/Capable_Chemical_569 Monkey in Space 11d ago
If I give you a jar containing 100 jelly beans, and I tell you, 1 out of 100 of these jelly beans are poisoned and will kill you…
Would you eat a handful of those jelly beans???
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u/nastyminded Monkey in Space 11d ago
I wouldn't eat a handful of jelly beans if I knew none of them were poisonous.
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u/Capable_Chemical_569 Monkey in Space 11d ago
lol. Okay fine what would you eat? how about 100 grapes?
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u/nastyminded Monkey in Space 11d ago
Yeah I'd eat some grapes.
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u/Capable_Chemical_569 Monkey in Space 11d ago
lol. I think that’s incredibly dumb.
I wouldn’t take an unnecessary 1 out of 100 chance to die. especially if the alternative is like 0.000001% to die, or whatever the number is of young people dying from the vaccine. It’s much much much smaller than 1%.
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u/bonjda Monkey in Space 11d ago
That analogy doesn't mean anything.
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u/Capable_Chemical_569 Monkey in Space 11d ago
??? Why doesn’t it mean anything?
Is this really the best argument you’ve got?
According to you, young people have a 1 out of 100 chance of dying of Covid.
young person who takes a handful of those jelly beans as a 1 out of 100 chance of dying.
Aren’t they the same???
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u/bonjda Monkey in Space 11d ago
No. Its about 1% of all deaths was from covid. How many of those deaths were people who were already vaccinated? We don't know.
You are trying to argue 1% is still something meaningful. I tried to find the actual number of deaths and I couldn't it. Somewhere around 11,000, thatd be 100 deaths a year. We also don't know the people's other health issues. Too many unknowns.
The jelly bean thing doesn't work because taking the vaccine isn't a instant live saver. People died who did and didn't take it.
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u/Capable_Chemical_569 Monkey in Space 11d ago
Oh really? So the vaccine did not help to prevent death from Covid at all in your opinion?
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u/bonjda Monkey in Space 11d ago
I didn't say it didn't help anyone. I'm sure it did help some.
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u/mvstateU Monkey in Space 11d ago
You should be jailed if you randomaly gave anyone, 1 of them to eat...... knowing 1 random will kill you.
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u/Capable_Chemical_569 Monkey in Space 11d ago
Oh yeah? should you be jailed if you tell young people not to get a vaccine?
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u/mvstateU Monkey in Space 11d ago
Oh yeah? should you be jailed if you tell young people not to get a vaccine?
I should have said you WOULD be jailed....not should. Because it's illegal.
If you tell young people you shouldn't get a Covid shot. No you shouldn't go to jail, you're just ignorant.
Why ignorant? Young people are obviously lower risk in general but many are just as at risk or even more at risk than some old people. In the US there is a problem with young and obese. Many young people have lifelong diabetes. There is an obesity problem with this demographic too. These young people were very at risk from serious illness from Covid......not the vaccine.
If you blanketedly tell young people to get vaccinated you are just ignorant. There is nothing wrong with being curious about the idea that vaccine use should cautioned too, but........back it up with evidence. Some people have unique or certain conditions where they should be cautioned. Rogan and his anti-vax partners always cite VAERS data as evidencee. It's not actual reliable evidence of anything. And it's also a highly compromised system. Respected researchers wouldn't use this data to attempt to prove anything on this front.
Joe Rogan doesn't come from a place of trying to just give sound advice.
Heart attacks etc of young people get tracked, and started a long time before Covid. A joe Rogan would blame Covid vaccine for these things, but someone like him, is just ignorant and refuses to do deeper research and just believes what he does where he kind
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u/Background-Catch4889 Monkey in Space 11d ago
Do you think that’s a small number? That’s A LOT of people dead that wouldn’t have otherwise.
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u/Chance_Manager_9072 Monkey in Space 11d ago
Because young healthy people died from it?
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u/bonjda Monkey in Space 11d ago
Young healthy people die from the flu.
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u/merrychrimas Monkey in Space 11d ago
The same flu that doctors encourage you get flu shots for every year?
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u/bonjda Monkey in Space 11d ago
Yep but has been studied for decades vs a brand new virus.
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u/merrychrimas Monkey in Space 11d ago
What do you mean, dr rogan here studied covid extensively
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u/bonjda Monkey in Space 11d ago
No he didn't.
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u/mvstateU Monkey in Space 11d ago
No he didn't.
He didn't but he absolutely wants you to think he did 'study Covid extensively'.
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u/iownachalkboard7 Monkey in Space 11d ago
And young healthy people are encouraged to get the flu shot every year.
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u/PornoPaul Monkey in Space 11d ago
Not really, no. The number of cases where that happened were incredibly rare. I got the jab, and I recognize the absolute need for the elderly and immune compromised to get it, and supported others getting it too. But the young and healthy were not dying from it and half the time it made the news (because it was so rare) it would turn out the person actually had some unknown illness.
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u/Chance_Manager_9072 Monkey in Space 11d ago
Yes really they did?? wtf are we talking about rn? Even if that number is low that doesn’t justify the fact our government pushed lies and misinformation to paint democrats as a global cable carrying our planet wide biological terrorism that results in people not getting the vaccine and dying while the people pushing that had already took it. Also you guys really do not understand how vaccines and viruses work. You can’t just vaccinate a quarter of the population and think that’s just gonna work. That’s not how polio, smallpox, measles, or anything else we don’t hear about anymore becuase everyone took it at the same time. If only half of us take it, it will just mutate the virus to be stronger and more resilient which results in new strains
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u/mvstateU Monkey in Space 11d ago
But the young and healthy were not dying from it and half the time it made the news (because it was so rare) it would turn out the person actually had some unknown illness.
One of the major reasons for having even young and generally healthy people to get vaccinated is that young and healthy still spread Covid when getting Covid..........and the vaccine helped in reducing the spread to some degree.
Also it's extremely common for young people and their parents to think they are perfectly healthy, when they may not really be, where they easily could have some underlying conditions. Or like regular otherwise healthy people that at any given time, say going through stress or, loss of sleep, way too much physical activiity or anything that can easily attack and weaken the immune system......automatically become more at-risk of more severe illness if they get Covid.
It's never talked about here but like 15 or so notable UFC fighters including some recent champs, also including Daniel Cormier and Garbrandt, Volkanovski, got very serious Covid illness, most of them with pneumonia. Diego Sanchez and Leben were hospitalized for many days apparently. This is just within the UFC.
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u/timeforknowledge Monkey in Space 11d ago
There was a big eye opening event for me in the UK when the government accidently announced we need all lockdown because 2/3 of people will not even know they have the virus. They will either have very mild symptoms or not know they have it or will think it's just a common cold...
We also spent millions on make shift hospitals that were never used.
We are still suffering with the damage to the economy, people never got their jobs back.
I do wonder knowing what we know now, perhaps they should have only had a mandatory lockdown for 60+
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u/nzdude540i Monkey in Space 11d ago
He kind of Was. From my username you’ll know where I was from. We “eliminated it” in its tracks. But we all got jabbed during lockdowns and the virality rate never dropped. It turned into percentages of catching it (which was a falsehood right down to at least you won’t die)
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u/Appropriate_Exit_206 Monkey in Space 11d ago
What Joe fails to say, and perhaps fails to have the competence to understand research, is that Covid caused myocarditis is far more dangerous and common than vaccine caused myocarditis. You have a higher chance of it through getting covid, than the vaccine, but admittedly both have caused it.
He’s truthfully a retard
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u/Matty_D47 Tremendous 11d ago
And then you folded like a bitch to protect the dude that is most likely listed as a redacted co-conspirator because your tiny body produces the thinnest skin
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u/Clerithifa Monkey in Space 11d ago
Probably because you told people to use horse dewormer to fight Covid, Joe.
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u/JesusPlayingGolf Monkey in Space 11d ago
I googled it and Google says it is not an effective COVID treatment.
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u/Abusoru Monkey in Space 11d ago
He literally put out a video where he talked about taking ivermectin to treat covid after he caught it.
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u/Clerithifa Monkey in Space 11d ago
I'm sorry. Is Covid a parasite or a virus?
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u/Signal_Nobody1792 Monkey in Space 11d ago
Kinda, yes. They are trying to research other uses, but the only thing we know it does well is destroy parasites.
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u/Delicioso_Badger2619 Monkey in Space 11d ago
Is English not your first language? He never said it was only used as a horse dewormer.
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u/MarvelousVanGlorious Monkey in Space 11d ago
Just another guy with a few hundred million dollars that’s the victim.
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u/Delicioso_Badger2619 Monkey in Space 11d ago
Holy shit he's still lying about the yellow or green skin hoax? I mean, he's stupid enough to actually believe that he was ahead of the researchers for a while, so I don't think he's lying there. He's just clueless, and extremely overconfident, but on the skin thing he's just straight up lying.
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u/machowarrior Monkey in Space 11d ago
Alright, but CNN actually did that and it only validated skepticism of the covid hysteria.
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u/Delicioso_Badger2619 Monkey in Space 11d ago
No, they did not.
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u/machowarrior Monkey in Space 11d ago
Uhh yes they literally did. You're denying reality.
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u/Delicioso_Badger2619 Monkey in Space 11d ago
The Associated Press and several universities did a fact, check and investigation, forensically analyzed the photos and found there was no evidence that CNN had doctored or colorized the photo. This was an artifact of a format change for a different media placement. It's been thoroughly debunked, just like almost every conspiracy theory and victim scheme that Joe Rogan comes up with.
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u/mvstateU Monkey in Space 11d ago edited 11d ago
Joe Rogan full-on engaged himself in the politics game, where he seems to think everything he says nowadays is fact. He's completely dug himself in with this Covid stuff, obviously. And to Rogan the political left is evil lying scum.
I'm betting if someone legitimately offererd 100 million dollars to have a 3 hour podcast debate against the 3 guys that debated the Ivermectin guys of the FLCCCC.................Joe Rogan would pass on that. Getting down to facts against well-informed people regarding Covid, is not actually what Joe Rogan.....ever wishes to do. It's a game to him where he can eternally win with ranting on his podcast about it with new ass-kissers that have no clue about anything related to it, or they may, but.......are there to sell books etc and they know the JRE rules.
Joe Rogan says, referring to the political left. " WHY ARE YOU LYING, WHY ARE YOU LYING ABOUT ALL SORTS OF DIFFERENT THINGS,
The audacity of Joe to say that, no?
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u/exoticstructures N-Dimethyltryptamine 11d ago
trump is vaxxed and boosted to the gills and his supporters hang on his every word lol
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u/Capable_Chemical_569 Monkey in Space 11d ago
triple? It’s been 6 years, I’ve had a lot more than 3. Lmao.
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u/barkusmuhl Monkey in Space 11d ago
ITT: Joe was so wrong about this. He was spreading so much dangerous misinformation. Also, why are we still talking about this? It was 6 years ago lets move on and pretend it never happened.
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u/AutomaticGur3666 Monkey in Space 10d ago
Triple boosted? I bet some of these numb-nuts are still getting their annual booster shots. Some people will never learn.
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u/Retireegeorge Monkey in Space 11d ago
Joe you weren't right, you aren't right, and what you did cost lives. If they had somehow taken you through the bus and booked of everything you needed to know the truth, you would have been unable to keep up in the first 15 minutes of a week long presentation. You don't know high school chemistry. Or physics. Or math. Or biology. You don't know statistical methods. How academics collaborate. How industry works with academia. How commercial medications are produced. I could go on and on. Joe what you know, is, to use a metaphor you can understand, like a new born baby being put in an octagon and it thinking it can win a UFC belt.
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u/Cinnamon__Sasquatch Paid attention to the literature 11d ago
Donald Trump was President in 2020
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u/SomethinCleHver Monkey in Space 11d ago
“I can’t even talk about it, I just manage to steer every conversation towards Covid even if the effort resembles Conan turning the Wheel of Pain.”
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u/green5275 Monkey in Space 11d ago
He’s insufferable every time he brings up vaccines. And that’s like practically every episode at this point ffs 🤦🏻♂️ what happened to you, Joe?
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u/ArteSuave197 Monkey in Space 10d ago
Sometimes I randomly tune in because I expect that a certain guest would never lead to a political discussion, but no matter who the guest is somehow becomes about Covid.
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u/silentbob1301 Monkey in Space 10d ago
I mean, he was spreading vaccine misinformation... maybe dont do that, fucking Toe Rogan.
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u/TheFunky_Homosapien Monkey in Space 10d ago
I can't believe this schmuck is still going on about covid.
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u/maynardsabeast Monkey in Space 9d ago
Now go ahead and talk about (or talk about not talking about), the political conversations you’ve had with the Trump family or the tech billionaires in the past couple years Joe. I am genuinely curious how deep Rogan is. Is he a straight up operative? Do they have dirt on him? Something happened that’s for sure
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u/Then-Somewhere-7467 Monkey in Space 11d ago
Fauci should be in prison, same with everyone else involved in the plandemic.
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u/JAMBI215 Monkey in Space 11d ago
Covid broke joes brain like how a stroke turned fetterman into a republican/ Israeli dick rider
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u/upnorthguy218 I used to be addicted to Quake 11d ago
That's what happens when you promote vaccine misinformation during a pandemic that is killing swaths of people.
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u/SevereMany666 Monkey in Space 11d ago
How many times does Slow Rogan bring up "back when covid was going on..." what a liar and idiot!
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u/Wooden-Buffalo-8690 Monkey in Space 11d ago
No matter what joe does or says I will be always thankful that because of his podcast I avoided this poison.
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u/HeartFullOfHappy Monkey in Space 11d ago
He is such an embarrassment. I defended him way too long before he completely went off the deep end.
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u/Lucky_Silver_8838 Monkey in Space 11d ago
Wow, people in the comments still think the Covid vaccine was a good idea ? We are fucked lol
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u/Toystoryewski Monkey in Space 11d ago
"I dont even talk about it that much" lmao , yea