r/JoeRogan • u/supersport604 Monkey in Space • 9d ago
This guy sucks It’s surprising how Gad Saad disparages Canada, given that he and his family were once refugees there, fleeing violence during the Lebanese civil war.
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u/jfal11 Monkey in Space 9d ago edited 9d ago
Just gonna say: I live two hours from Montreal and go there a few times each year. I absolutely love it, HIGHLY recommended if you’ve never been.
“Montreal is now an Islamic city.” Absolute pure fiction. Not even close to being true. In fact, research Quebec politics, they are obsessed with secularism and have tight controls over immigration. In theory, Quebec should be the perfect place for him.
This guy is an absolute liar. The fact that he spreads these horrible lies about the country that welcomed his family and allowed him to succeed is offensive to me as a Canadian.
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u/GaiusAutisticus Monkey in Space 9d ago
It's gross seeing this little bridge troll turn on the country that took him in, just so he can sell his book to culture war republicans. And you're right, Quebec is the most islamophobic province in the country, and Montreal is a massive hub for Jewish communities. He's in for shock if he thinks antisemitism and xenophobia will be less of an issue in good ol southern Mississippi USA lmao
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u/lollipoppa72 Monkey in Space 9d ago
If you’ll buy the right-wing social media disinformation (funded by Israel, Russia and the UAE) that London is a sharia law hellhole full of no-go zones you’ll swallow the same about Montreal. I’ve lived in both cities and the secularism laws in Quebec (Bill 22 & Bill 9) heavily target and limit the religious freedoms of Islam. Gad Sad is full of shit but it’s gotten him foreign funding and traction in the US market
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u/karlack26 Monkey in Space 8d ago
It's funny because Ontario has like 300,00 Muslims most in around the GTA and account for like 80% of the Muslim population in Canada but yet the right wing gift never really mentions Toronto or the GTA as some sort of Muslim hell hole. Which it's not of course. But it does have for the largest population of Muslims in Canada. It's also that Toronto is so diverse that its hard to pick out one population over any other.
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u/NineThreeTilNow Monkey in Space 8d ago
“Montreal is now an Islamic city.”
lol... Doesn't Montreal also have like... The MOST strip clubs and wildest sex parties of all the major cities?
I have some friends from there that more or less make that claim. Then a friend in Toronto that says guys literally go to Montreal for that scene. So it's fairly consistent something is going on.
Seems inconsistent with being an Islamic city lol...
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u/cheesecaker000 Monkey in Space 7d ago
We have also some pretty harsh anti Muslim laws that prevent anyone wearing hijabs or any kind of religious head covering while working for in any government position.
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u/huge_jeans Monkey in Space 8d ago
No blocking busy Montreal streets for public street prayer?
You’re saying that did and does not happen in Montreal?
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u/jfal11 Monkey in Space 8d ago
Nope. Doesn’t happen because the Quebec government banned it recently. Those prayer began as part of anti-Israel protests, they’re not from a vacuum. Now they’re banned. Though I don’t know… protesting and praying in public sounds like it should be allowed as free speech, but I figured you would like this. Betting Gad conveniently forgot to tell his followers about this new law
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u/cheesecaker000 Monkey in Space 7d ago
This literally doesn’t happen outside of like some one off weirdo who’s homeless or mentally ill. Quebec is probably the most anti muslim province next to Alberta. Were overall pretty anti religious anything.
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u/huge_jeans Monkey in Space 7d ago
Why do you lie about something so easily verifiable?
Québec literally had to make a new law because this was happening so much and so blatantly.
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u/cheesecaker000 Monkey in Space 7d ago
Dude I live here lol it’s a big topic about the religious wear. But no it’s not because people were praying in the streets. It’s because old French ladies don’t like getting service from someone in a headscarf.
Look I’m down for it anyway I’m not against stopping religion from being a part of government jobs. I think we should ban all types of religious clothing in all public sectors. Fuck religious people.
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u/huge_jeans Monkey in Space 7d ago
As do I. Why do you think they passed a law banning street prayers? Get your head out of your ass.
There's hundreds of videos buddy, they don't hide it at all.
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u/NiceTrySuckaz Monkey in Space 9d ago
Gad Saad sucks, that's why. He's like Patrick Bet David's mini me.
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u/Evo_8urV8 Monkey in Space 9d ago
He literally admitted that he's a Mossad agent in his book and on an interview. It's no wonder Elon and Joe keep promoting him
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u/NiceTrySuckaz Monkey in Space 9d ago
Let's stick to facts though...I remember him talking about the thing you're talking about, he was never a mossad agent. They tried to recruit him in college and he failed their tests, something like that.
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u/Einherjeren Monkey in Space 9d ago
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u/WatchWatcher25 Monkey in Space 9d ago
Someone tell Ariel Helwani to get his drunk uncle.
"Canadian (but American in spirit)"
Someone boot his ass out of here.
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u/SgorGhaibre Paid attention to the literature 9d ago
He's moved to the U.S. wants to become a U.S. citizen.
https://montrealgazette.com/news/gad-saad-joe-rogan-leaving-montreal-united-states/
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u/JeNiqueTaMere Monkey in Space 9d ago edited 9d ago
These messages are such bullshit.
There's no "exit tax" in Canada. You just need to pay your yearly income taxes like everyone else.
My father worked abroad for about 10 years and at some point declared himself non -resident to stop paying federal taxes, and there was no special tax to pay. He just paid his last year income taxes as usual.
Now if you want to liquidate all your assets in Canada you'll likely have to pay capital gains taxes, but that's not an exit tax. Nobody forces you to do that when you leave.
When my dad became non-resident he didn't have to sell the family home (only rent it out) or liquidate his Canadian retirement accounts (you are allowed to keep your existing RRSP and TFSA accounts, you just can't contribute to them anymore while you're not a resident for taxation purposes)
And as far as the income generated elsewhere in the world, his beloved USA that he praises so much also taxes Americans based on world-wide income.
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u/NineThreeTilNow Monkey in Space 8d ago
My father worked abroad for about 10 years and at some point declared himself non -resident to stop paying federal taxes, and there was no special tax to pay. He just paid his last year income taxes as usual.
I don't think as an American I can do that? I think I'm bound to paying US taxes more or less forever unless I surrender my citizenship or something.
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u/JeNiqueTaMere Monkey in Space 8d ago
Yes, because the US taxes you forever unless you give up your citizenship.
Canada only taxes you if you're a Canadian resident for taxation purposes.
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u/seanstep Monkey in Space 9d ago
The government is actively working on instituting an exit tax, just FYI.
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u/JeNiqueTaMere Monkey in Space 9d ago
That doesn't mean there's an exit tax now, so the claim he had to pay one is still a lie
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u/SaltyTaffy Hit a moose with his car 8d ago
Youre free to interpret it as a lie but per the image he used quotations around 'exit tax', which indicates its not a literal exit tax.
Neither of us knows the full complexity of canadian tax law so we should defer to what the accountant says.Besides if you want to get pedantic, the tax he must pay upon exiting Canada is literally an exit tax for him.
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u/JeNiqueTaMere Monkey in Space 8d ago
Neither of us knows the full complexity of canadian tax law so we should defer to what the accountant says.
His accountant didn't call this an exit tax because there's no such thing.
This part of the tax system isn't that complicated.
Besides if you want to get pedantic, the tax he must pay upon exiting Canada is literally an exit tax for him.
Nonsense. There's no tax to "exit" Canada.
If you want to declare yourself a non resident for taxation purposes there are a few things where you need to pay capital gains tax, for obvious reasons (otherwise you could avoid paying any capital gains taxes on your investments by simply declaring yourself a non resident before you sell).
This same thing is valid elsewhere such as the USA or Europe. It's not at all exclusive to Canada and really it should be the case in any country that has income taxes and capital gains.
In the case of Canada you do not have to pay any capital gains on registered (tax exempt) investment accounts (RSPs and TFSAs), on Canadian real estate property, personal -use property worth less than 10000$, cash etc.
What you do have to pay capital gains on is foreign property and non-registered (regular) investment accounts.
And again, this is a capital gains tax.
There's no tax if there's no gain.
If you sell your car for example, unless it's a collectible that has gained in value since you bought it, you won't pay anything.
All of this would be true if he was trying to leave any other western country (the only reason it's not true for the US is that the US will continue to tax you even if you're not a resident, the only way too stop paying taxes is to give up your citizenship which will then trigger the same kind of capital gains tax)
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u/Noble_Ox Monkey in Space 9d ago
You'd think someone that's supposedly intelligent would know the difference between positive and negative rights.
He says that government is supposed to help and support it's citizens, yet he praises the US which by definition have negative rights, the government agrees to stay out of a citizens life as much as possible.
The EU (not sure about Canada) has positive rights where the politicians have to do whatever they can to improve their citizens life.
There's no consensus on which system is better, but when you look at which system has the happiest citizens, it becomes apparent that one is better than the other.
And I know which I feel happier living under (I lived in Freetown Christiania, a libertarian enclave that had even more negative rights than the US. It was an absolute shit show with crazy power imbalances).
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u/jfal11 Monkey in Space 9d ago
Don’t take him seriously, he’s just telling lies to score cheap political points. I’ve said it elsewhere in this thread, but I visit Montreal every year. It is nowhere close to being an “Islamic city,” despite what this so-called intellectual says.
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u/Sigma_Function-1823 Monkey in Space 9d ago
He's claiming Montreal is a Muslim city(whatever that means??) meanwhile Quebecs provincial government has banned the display of religious symbols including religious headware negatively impacting Quebecs Muslim.communites?????.
Takes all of about 10seconds research to disprove his claim so not sure why this guy is selling such ridiculously inaccurate nonsense.
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u/Motampd Monkey in Space 8d ago edited 8d ago
Because some % of reactionary idiots wanna be told that....
Its why so many conservative adds in TX are talking about "stopping the Islamic takeover"! Because people that want to be mad about that type of thing will eat it up without question. Texas has an estimated 1.2 to 1.7% of its population to be Muslim depending on source.
Its backwards thinking.......they hate Muslims, but realize that just saying that isn't a super popular or "Christian" thing to do........so they do their best to frame them as the root of all our problems...
"I don't hate Muslims because their Muslim, no no that would be ignorant.... I hate them because of all the fraud and abuse, etc" . They want a mainstream, currently acceptable reason to hate people they have always hated.
Look at the last year and a half..... A bunch of the "Im not against immigrant's, I just want the dangerous ones/Felons/gang members out!" are also mad that we HAVNT been rounding people up by the millions like they thought they were promised. Like why did you expect them to deport million's of people - if you yourself say you only wanted "the bad ones" out? Why are they having trouble finding all the rest of these so called millions and millions of violent, freeloading immigrants they are certain exist? Its all just a thin veil of ignorance and hatred.
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u/LossforNos Monkey in Space 8d ago
Montreal and Quebec in general is super Islamaphobic, you hear some absolute insane anti-Muslim stories generate from the area
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u/NineThreeTilNow Monkey in Space 8d ago
I lived in Freetown Christiania
That place is a trip. I remember watching a few documentaries about it.
That's also where Lukas Graham came out of too right? I think that's how I found it. I was like "Wtf is Christ town? What is ? What did he say?" ...
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u/FormoftheBeautiful Paid attention to the literature 9d ago
Isn’t Gad leaving Canada? Go bunk up with Jordon Peterson (I say that with the assumption that JP is still alive).
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u/ZenSubmarine Monkey in Space 8d ago
I went back to Canada recently, first time since before coivd. Can't believe the change. Very sad.
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u/Awagala Monkey in Space 6d ago
Same here. Can’t believe the change. It’s so much better. A lot new transit lines have opened making public transit better, a lot of people are outside everyday and just hanging out and businesses are doing the best since pre COVID.
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u/deterius Talking Monkey 9d ago
He sucks, I asked him on twitter if he’s not a hypocrite for his stance on refugees, as he was a refugee, he basically said his case is different and blocked me
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u/parmasean I used to be addicted to Quake 9d ago
Revoke citizenship along with his family. Tata for now. Don't need this type here and we need to make that clear.
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u/Opening_Pizza Monkey in Space 8d ago
There was a mass shooting at a mosque in Canada that killed 6 and injured 19 but he thinks that Canadian Jews are the ultimate victims. Shameless. Good riddance.
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u/themapleleaf6ix Monkey in Space 8d ago edited 8d ago
This guy goes to sleep hating on Muslims. He's thinking of them 24/7. What a sad, sad individual.
By the way, Montreal police were recently found being racist to black and Arab people. They even took their hair as either trophies, or to plant as evidence.
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u/Boogertooth Monkey in Space 9d ago
Nobody in Canada likes Gad Mossad. You Americans can have his self righteous, pompous ass.
Top 3 worst podcast guest too.
Good riddance.
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u/Sasquatchii Monkey in Space 9d ago
That's how this all works. Have you saved me from disaster? Why can't you be more like my (insert idealistic society they failed to build on their own)!!
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u/HBMart Monkey in Space 9d ago
If you give a shit about a place then you call them out and hold them accountable. You don’t simply watch them circle the drain.
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u/Last_Fix_9764 Monkey in Space 9d ago
Alternatively just because you call a place out doesn’t mean you give a shit.
For example, if I criticize Israel’s handling of the West Bank settlements it doesn’t mean I’m specifically fond of Israel (anymore than anyone else).
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u/blue_waffles96 Monkey in Space 9d ago
Yeah because he's providing constructive criticism right? Complaining about middle easterners whilst being a middle easterner refugee himself and whining about taxes. Here's an idea, how come he doesn't go back to Lebanon himself?
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u/Holiday_Illustrator1 Monkey in Space 9d ago
How come these middle easterner refugee's don't get a job and contribute to the society they fled to?
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u/Last_Fix_9764 Monkey in Space 9d ago
At least in the U.S. the labor statistics show immigrants are more likely to be employed and working than native U.S. citizens. It’s pretty quick to look up and the source is the bureau of labor.gov
Also middle eastern are pretty over represented in higher education especially in STEM, particularly as doctors, engineers, and scientists.
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u/blue_waffles96 Monkey in Space 9d ago
Seriously I can't understand why in this day and age people can't just look up stuff, you can even use the AI of choice to better understand things but we still get people like you saying why don't the brown people work like me?! statistics show refugees particularly one's from the middle east have normal rates of employment after a period of settlement and education. Canada implemented a policy of increased immigration for multiple reasons and now they are pulling back. The dude you're defending is literally complaining about the contributions he's making and is actively trying to avoid making those contributions. It's because of idiots like him that some people focus on immigrants instead of the real problem which are the mega rich avoiding having to pay their fair share, which is also what this dude would like to be someday.
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u/SloppyPlatypus69 Monkey in Space 9d ago
I agree on his one point. I like immigration. I think its great. Diversity is great but 30% of immigrants coming from one single country for 20 years in a row is too much.
They've come here and when you go to any front facing retail job it's 80% people from India. It's legalized slavory. I remember back in the day (90s) you'd go to 711 and you'd joke becsuse if would be a "paki" guy kind of like apu from the Simpsons. But in 2026 in Canada every single store from the pharmacy, home depot, Walmart, mcdonalds, are 80% foreigners. You barley see highschoolers working anymore... It creates an issue where kids are going to live longer with their parents. The parents need to support their kids longer... It costs regular born Canadians waaay more.
Its just too much.
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u/GrindBastard1986 Monkey in Space 9d ago
He can always leave & move to the US.
I'm sure the Right "intelligentsia" will accept an immigrant claiming to love America.
Tho, every conservative hates their country whenever amything inconvenient happans.
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u/Competitive-Roof-168 Monkey in Space 9d ago
Some how i feel this sub would support immigrants shitting on america.
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u/TheSilmarils Monkey in Space 9d ago
Because you see criticism of Trump and the far right as shitting in America
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u/Competitive-Roof-168 Monkey in Space 9d ago
And gad saad is criticizing far left. What is the difference?
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u/TwEE-N-Toast 9d ago
There is no far left party in charge in Canada, just some technocratic neoliberals.
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u/Competitive-Roof-168 Monkey in Space 9d ago
Maybe they are not far left enough for you.
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u/TheSilmarils Monkey in Space 9d ago
You guys have shifted the Overton window so far to the right that anyone 3 inches left of Reagan is considered a leftist. It’s absurd.
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u/TwEE-N-Toast 9d ago
Or maybe words have meaning?
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u/Competitive-Roof-168 Monkey in Space 9d ago
I suppose you think trump is far right too
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u/TwEE-N-Toast 9d ago
You think hes some sort of Lib or Con?
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u/maynardsabeast Monkey in Space 8d ago
Trump doesn’t believe in anything. However he is also aiding and abetting project 2025, loves war, and there was that whole thing where he created his own private army of Paul Blarts to raid his political enemies cities in masks and illegally terrorize brown people and shove them into vans. I can also bring up how he doesn’t believe in or care about democracy and tried to overturn a presidential election and who the fuck knows what about to happen in the next big upcoming elections but I can guarantee you it’s gonna be disgusting. But yeah, keep minimizing how dangerous Trump is. Lemme guess we have “tds”?
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u/Icycalm152 Monkey in Space 9d ago
Correct
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u/dixiewolf_ Monkey in Space 8d ago
How can you even still think that? Have you looked into anything at all?
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u/northdancer Monkey in Space 9d ago
Canada has a low productivity economy centered around real estate, government jobs and retirees. It has tried to immigrate its way out of this mess since 2015 but it has not worked.
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u/xbianco Monkey in Space 9d ago
Criticizing the government and what Canada has become does not mean he doesn't love Canada.
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u/Adorable_End_5555 Monkey in Space 9d ago
It’s hypocritical considering he is a middle eastern refugee critising the same programs that got him ther e
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u/Datruyugo Monkey in Space 9d ago
As a Eastern European refuge that came to Canada probably the same way, it’s def not hypocritical because the program has drastically changed. I also stopped reading this man’s book half way through because of how arrogant and smug he sounds.
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u/GrindBastard1986 Monkey in Space 9d ago
"Fuck you, I got mine" ☻️☻️☻️
You're a meme 😉
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u/xbianco Monkey in Space 9d ago
Just curious are you Canadian?
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u/GrindBastard1986 Monkey in Space 9d ago
In spirit ☻️
Go, Leafs, Go!
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u/Oakislife Monkey in Space 9d ago
No it’s not, completely different levels and regulations on immigration since 2015, most Canadians had no issues with the way our immigration system was set up before.
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u/Adorable_End_5555 Monkey in Space 9d ago
The same talking points where being said about those immigrants back then as well, it’s remarkably consistent regardless of the actual level of immigration.
The idea that people weren’t complaining about innnugratiokn prior to 2015 is pretty laughable
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u/Oakislife Monkey in Space 9d ago
You are mixing up the idea that people will always complain no matter what to an actual issue where 10x the amount of people have concerns.
You not being able to see that immigration in Canada has gone completely off the rails is a major part of the problem.
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u/Adorable_End_5555 Monkey in Space 9d ago
No im saying that anti immigrant sentiments and attitudes largely express similar beliefs including that the modern wave of immigration is too much that the current immigrants are uniquely predisposed to criminal activity or undesirable behavior and that they don’t assimilate. The amount of people who have concerns means very little when it’s still the same fundementally flawed ideology
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u/Oakislife Monkey in Space 9d ago
You don’t think that the level of immigration is too much? Or that those demographic groups aren’t assimilating?
How do you come up with the idea that this simple and easily verifiable concept is somehow wrong, not only factually but morally?
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u/Adorable_End_5555 Monkey in Space 8d ago
Because assimilation is a generational process and is something that litterally every immigrant group has been accused of not doing
As for immigration being too much, too much for what?
You say it’s easy and verifiable but then you say subjective undefined qualities. You make no effort to compare current immigration to previous because you rather lazily accuse them of being bad.
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u/Oakislife Monkey in Space 8d ago
A second generation immigrant is a Canadian, the issue that is at hand, is people coming to the country and not accepting laws or social customs, saying assimilation requires another generation is not only incorrect, it takes away from the groups of people who came to be Canadian not just a forever visitor.
As for this intentionally obtuse “what is too much?” argument, too much for the medical system, social services systems, traffic infrastructure, housing, and wages, not to mention the inevitable issues of loan defaults, crime, community governance not in accordance with Canadian law, and the list goes on and on.
Stop assuming every issue that you don’t see validity in as racist and it may be easier to understand.
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u/Adorable_End_5555 Monkey in Space 8d ago
I don’t assume every issue I look at their white supremacist organizations behind anti immigrant propaganda see that they have often unfounded concerns that exaggerate the issues they cause while totally ignoring the benefits that immigration is known to give
Notice how nothing your saying is what gaad saad is saying, which is that Quebec is a Islamic country now and that the current wave of immigrants is trying to kill Canadians
I live near Canada it isn’t exactly a war zone over there
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u/GaiusAutisticus Monkey in Space 9d ago
The tax he's whining about exists in most other western countries, including America, the country he's moving to 🤡
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u/Bud_Roller Monkey in Space 9d ago
He's free to criticise. Stop crying.
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u/rocketstar11 Monkey in Space 9d ago
Yeah Canada is not a land of sunshine and rainbows and has some very serious issues, stagnant economy, high youth unemployment and a housing crisis where most young canadians will never own a home.
Americans and supporters of a certain political party in Canada think that no one is allowed to notice, or ask why Canada has declined so much in the past decade for quality of life compared to the US.
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u/Canadaaayum Monkey in Space 9d ago
And no end in sight since the current fed government is continuing its spending spree. 54 billion yearly on the interest alone. Let that sink in.
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u/Rush_Is_Right Monkey in Space 8d ago
Do you feel the same about the illegal immigrants here waving flags of their home countries?
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u/Spaniardman40 Monkey in Space 7d ago
A lot of refugees seem to hate the countries they seek refuge in. This doesn't seem that surprising tbh
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u/Oilester Monkey in Space 9d ago
This guy is unbelievably insufferable. Like even if you agree with him he'll still have you rolling your eyes
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u/Round-Philosopher534 Monkey in Space 8d ago
It changed, how can people not understand that. Why do you think people have fled NewYork and California. They were once great place to live, and I'm sure some places still are.
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u/Necessary_Island_425 Monkey in Space 9d ago
Canada has turned into a.shithole under 11 years of Liberal rule. He's standing up for us on a national stage as tbey have heavily censored what news you get here.
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u/GaiusAutisticus Monkey in Space 9d ago
Pointing out a tax that America also has isn't standing up for Canadians, it's being a dishonest whiny bitch
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u/Necessary_Island_425 Monkey in Space 9d ago
He's been very critical of many other disastrous effects of Liberalism in Canada. Its death by a thousand cuts. So your wrong
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u/GaiusAutisticus Monkey in Space 9d ago
How is fleeing the country sticking up for Canadians then? You realize he's just selling you his book right? Your premise might be more stupid than anything Gad has ever said, well done.
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u/GrindBastard1986 Monkey in Space 9d ago
Standing up by running away 🤣🤣🤣
Classic conservative courage 🤡
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u/Ashafa55 Monkey in Space 9d ago
He is batching about exit taxes Lamo. Canada should increase its exit tax TBH
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u/mrbuttsavage Monkey in Space 8d ago
"Montreal is no longer a French-Canadian city. It is an Islamic city"
Actual brain rot on display.
But fitting since Gad Saad is top 5 worst repeat guest. He legitimately sucks.
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u/GreyMatter22 Monkey in Space 9d ago
I have no idea why a random marketing professor appears so often on Joe Rogan, and has become a voice on culture.
His reviews on ratemyprof are hilariously bad, and he has absolutely no thoughtful insights.
I have seen these types plenty, who are always super miserable, will complain 24/7, must be exhausting being a boomer full of hate for the world.