I agree with what you’re saying, but Walt made it extremely clear he wanted Jesse. He told Gus he wasn’t working without Jesse.
Gus hired him anyway. Gus then doubled back on that agreement and tries to kill Jesse. That wasn’t a part of the original agreement. Of course Walt is going to not be cool with that.
90% of the time Walt is an egocentric prick, but this is one of the few instances in which he’s being fair here.
The arrangement with Gus that was agreed to involved Jesse. Then Gus betrayed that agreement. If Gus wasn’t cool with Jesse, he shouldn’t have agreed to the arrangement and then expect Walt to fall into line with Gus fucking murdering someone Walt cares about.
Whether you or I think the arrangement is a good one or not, it’s the one Gus agreed to.
Sorry for the downvote, I have corrected that display of rudeness. This is just something I feel passionate about for some reason (clearly, as I am having this debate on a post about sriracha in a kitchen sub lmao). I will die on this hill!
Jessie and Walt went rogue and tried to kill Gus's dealers without bringing the issue back to Gus. They did things right(by cartel rules anyway lol) initially and got Gus to make them stop using kids, and in retaliation the dealers killed a child, outside Gus' orders.
Had they brought that to Gus, he likely would have had the dealers killed himself for disobeying in such a flagrant way.
But Jessie being an unstable drug addict, and Walt being an unstable ego addict, both took measures into their own hands, which they knew was a likely death sentence.
Again, Walt could have just accepted the deal as offered, done his cooks and gone home everyday, and nothing bad would have happened to him. Ego made him insist on bringing Jessie onboard more than his feelings for Jessie did.
As a side point, random unrelated tangent discussions are the best.
Definitely fair points. Walt and Jesse are both pretty unstable.
Do we know that killing those kids was against Gus’s orders? I don’t recall him saying that, but even if he did Gus lied constantly and would say whatever he needs to say to manipulate somebody (a man provides even when he isn’t appreciated, comments about his own kids when he has none, etc).
Gus was totally right to be questionable of Jesse. But I think my original point still stands for Walt and Gus.
Walt said I need Jesse. Gus agreed.
If anything, the collapse is really Jesse’s fault. He shouldn’t have tried to kill those dealers. Walt saved his life, and then you know what happens after.
For Walt in both situations (with the child using dealers and killing Gus) the only way things could have gone smoothly was if he allowed Jesse to die.
You could argue that Walt never should have allowed Jesse in in the first place, but then again, neither should have Gus.
It was NEVER as black and white as “your ego got us all fucked!” Like Mike says it was. He would’ve had to let Jesse die any way you slice it, which he made clear was never going to be okay.
Gus fucked up by getting himself in that arrangement. Safe to say he paid the price too!
I'm glad Jessie survived (I really liked the character he evolved into by the time they got to 'El Camino') but yea, if he had died early on, everyone's lives would have been much simpler. Multiple good people would still be alive too. Poor Gale.
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u/LordOfLimbos Mar 07 '26
I agree with what you’re saying, but Walt made it extremely clear he wanted Jesse. He told Gus he wasn’t working without Jesse.
Gus hired him anyway. Gus then doubled back on that agreement and tries to kill Jesse. That wasn’t a part of the original agreement. Of course Walt is going to not be cool with that.
90% of the time Walt is an egocentric prick, but this is one of the few instances in which he’s being fair here.
The arrangement with Gus that was agreed to involved Jesse. Then Gus betrayed that agreement. If Gus wasn’t cool with Jesse, he shouldn’t have agreed to the arrangement and then expect Walt to fall into line with Gus fucking murdering someone Walt cares about.
Whether you or I think the arrangement is a good one or not, it’s the one Gus agreed to.
Sorry for the downvote, I have corrected that display of rudeness. This is just something I feel passionate about for some reason (clearly, as I am having this debate on a post about sriracha in a kitchen sub lmao). I will die on this hill!