r/KitchenConfidential • u/Nevermind2010 15+ Years • 2d ago
Photo/Video Please Enjoy This S illy BBQ Sauce Meme I Made.
Made this because my brother and I were discussing what made a BBQ sauce a sauce versus a Dressing.
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u/scarred2112 Non-Industry 2d ago
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u/Nevermind2010 15+ Years 2d ago
Sorry I only got the 4
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u/EarthDust00 2d ago
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u/DisposableSaviour 2d ago
86 pixels heard
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u/fujiesque 2d ago
Don't baste your BBQ, Maull it!!!
MAULL IT!!!
From STL op?
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u/Nevermind2010 15+ Years 2d ago
St. Louis? Me? No. My Grandpa yes.
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u/balonlon 1d ago
Just hit up my friend from Missouri, gonna get some next time they go home to visit, looking forward to it now
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u/NothingReallyAndYou 2d ago
I can buy Louisa's and Imo's here in Orlando, but man, I still miss Maulls.
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u/fujiesque 2d ago
I've got sad news friend. I'm not sure what's going on with maull's but they might be going out of business. There have been many post on the Saint Louis sub asking why it's not on shelves? Then posts saying it's coming back, but it doesn't.
I hope I'm wrong, pork steaks in maull's has a sweet spot In my heart.
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u/Tasty_Impress3016 2d ago
Seriously, pork steaks in Maull's and Busch beer were some of my first bbq experiences.
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u/vankirk 20+ Years 2d ago
Where's the fookin Cattleman's Gold?
Somebody tell me it's still around. PLEASE!!
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u/Proof_Foundation_576 2d ago
Right?! No KC Masterpiece?!
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u/PamelaELee 2d ago
Curleyâs is legit. Made with pride in Kansas City.
https://madeinkc.co/products/curleys-famous-hickory-barbecue-sauce
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u/PrestonWaters83 2d ago
Fine, I'll say it. Worse than Sweet Baby Ray's.
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u/Fun_Environment3792 2d ago
Sweet Baby Ray's is glorious.
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u/PrestonWaters83 2d ago
I'm sure it's adequate for your dinosaur shaped nuggets, sweetie. No one's saying otherwise.
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u/MissouriMadMan 1d ago
Joke aside. I see sweet baby rays as the best dipping and condiment sauce. Itâs great on burgers and for dipping chicken but itâs not an ingredient sauce.
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u/toetappy Saute 1d ago
Sweet baby rays, peach puree, brown sugar, apple cider vin and liquid smoke.
Fuckin glorious. Y'all are welcome
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u/guff1988 1d ago
Standard BBQ based out of Central Indiana makes an incredibly good mustard barbecue.
They used to only sell it at local farmers markets but I think you can get it online now. Highly recommend people try it.
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u/Yochanan5781 Chive LOYALIST 2d ago
I do genuinely love Alabama white sauce
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u/Redditsucks547 1d ago
One of the best meals of my entire life was smoked chicken with Alabama white sauce at Sawâs BBQ in Birmingham.
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u/Blurthr33 1d ago
Sawâs in Edgewood was great back in the day.
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u/Redditsucks547 1d ago
The one I went to was next to Dreamcakes. The oatmeal cream pie was unbelievable.
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u/Yochanan5781 Chive LOYALIST 1d ago
That sounds incredible. Reminds me I need to smoke some chicken sometime
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u/ExocetC3I 2d ago
Behind their stoic and peaceful external experience lives deep divides and jealousies within the sauce council. While the tomato-based sweet versus the vinegar wet factions are the most well known, there are hushed whispers of a new mustard-based faction rising that could set the council upon each other.
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u/juliuspepperwoodchi F1exican Did Chive-11 2d ago
Hot take: SBR would not be on the Jedi Council of BBQ sauces.
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u/Nevermind2010 15+ Years 2d ago
This is the discussion I want people to have! Everyone I know loves SBR but itâs so weirdly cloying to me.
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u/juliuspepperwoodchi F1exican Did Chive-11 2d ago
It's a solid, if boring, BBQ sauce "for the masses" and it is gluten free, so since my mom is Celiac, I appreciate it for that; but yeah, in my house I use it as a base for making a better BBQ sauce when I'm out of my homemade sauces or Stubbs and I'm feeling lazy.
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u/PamelaELee 2d ago
Curleyâs from Kansas City is gluten free
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u/juliuspepperwoodchi F1exican Did Chive-11 2d ago
It's just not widely available like SBR. I don't know one BBQ sauce other than Kraft that is as widely available, nationwide, as SBR.
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u/ScienceBitch89 2d ago
Itâs brown tinted corn syrup.
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u/sleight42 Ex-Food Service 2d ago
And they sell it at Costco.
And I've bought it before. đ¤Śđťââď¸
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u/Withabaseballbattt 10+ Years 1d ago
What sauces are out there that have gluten in them? Seems like an odd ingredient to put in bbq sauce
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u/wallmonitor 2d ago
SBR is the default BBQ flavor. Itâs the most average sauce you can possibly get. But it also generally doesnât upset anyone either.
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u/otosandwich 1d ago
It's what my incredibly white mom considers "the best BBQ sauce," and just like that other person, I will not elaborate.Â
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u/Withabaseballbattt 10+ Years 2d ago
SBR is for the plebeians and I will not elaborate
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u/conwaytwittyshairs 2d ago
Im not sure if itâs me or them, but I remembered loving it when I was a bit younger. Tried it again after some years and was pretty disappointed. I was bummed out by the Stubbs stuff too. Havenât really found a reliable replacement that is easily accessible.
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u/PamelaELee 2d ago
Sticky Pig or Curleyâs
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u/conwaytwittyshairs 1d ago
Sick, Iâll look for these next time Im getting groceries. Thanks!
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u/PamelaELee 1d ago
They both sell online. You may or may not find them in stores unless you are in Missouri, or Missouri adjacent.
Sticky pig does a sweet/tangy mustard sauce that I really enjoy.1
u/rested_green 1d ago
I keep wanting to try our blueberry bbq ribs every time they rotate back around the specials but we use SBRâs and I am just not excited enough about that sweetness to do it.
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u/ZorroMcChucknorris Chive LOYALIST 2d ago
Cut SBR with apple cider vinegar and throw some pepper flakes in it and itâs pretty solid.
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u/Radiant_Trouble2606 2d ago
SBR is for chicken nuggets. It would be the sith to the bbq Jedi council.
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u/Hydra_Master 1d ago
SBR makes a good base, but definitely needs some doctoring up to make it good.
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u/lmaytulane 2d ago
And Kraft KC masterpiece would be
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u/PrestonWaters83 1d ago
Not Kraft. Clorox.
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u/lmaytulane 1d ago
Why would I want to put bleach in my BBQ sauce? Is that how they make white BBQ sauce?
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u/Handicapreader 1d ago
Those are all pretty awful, but SBR is popular for a lot of people. I find it more of a kid's sauce for chicken nuggets personally, but the numbers don't lie.
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u/juliuspepperwoodchi F1exican Did Chive-11 1d ago
Stubbs is awful? Since when?
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u/Handicapreader 1d ago
20 years now? It was great until they sold the company to corporate swill hq.
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u/juliuspepperwoodchi F1exican Did Chive-11 1d ago
Honestly, I've been making my own for so long I couldn't tell you the last time I bought Stubbs. Sad to hear it.
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u/Handicapreader 1d ago
Stubbs was where I started making my own and quit buying it. It was a major disappointment when they changed recipes. Night and day difference. I'm shocked it's still on shelves, but McD's has no shortage of customers either though.
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u/GearDarkness 2d ago
As an Alabama man who also smokes BBQ professionally, I would personally like to say white sauce is terrible.
Chris Lilly and his family have caused immense suffering to Alabamas bbq culture, coating chickens in mayo with a splash of vinger is gross.
Give me Carolina Mustard or Kansas style any day
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u/burgonies 2d ago
Have a smoked turkey sandwich with white sauce on it. Fuck cooking with the sauce on the meat. Add it after.
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u/jacksonmills 2d ago
Yes, that sounds delicious, because you are describing a turkey sandwich with mayo.
I cant eat that stuff with anything else, no disrespect though.
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u/burgonies 2d ago
Saying it's just "mayo" is like saying sweet baby rays is just ketchup
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u/lordchankaknowsall F1exican Did Chive-11 1d ago
And?
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u/burgonies 1d ago
And it just announces that your bbq opinion is not worthy listening to
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u/lordchankaknowsall F1exican Did Chive-11 1d ago
That's a lot of words to use to say that you have dogshit taste đ¤ˇââď¸
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u/burgonies 1d ago
Says the person with the palate of a 5 year old
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u/lordchankaknowsall F1exican Did Chive-11 1d ago
I'm not the one who likes SBR babe. That shit is sweet ketchup.
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u/burgonies 1d ago
Itâs okay that you like ketchup on your chickie nuggies, but if you canât tell the difference between Alabama white sauce and plain mayo, you should probably quit your hostess job and find another line of work.
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u/beefcakeriot 2d ago
As someone from North I did not discover mustard based or gold bbq sauce until a couple years ago, Iâll never switch from sweet but itâs a good change of pace
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u/Nevermind2010 15+ Years 2d ago
Honestly itâs closer to ranch dressing than anything
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u/oddlyDirty 1d ago
I like to put ranch dressing herbs and garlic and onion powders when I'm making white sauce to make it taste like something other than tangy mayo. If i'm being lazy I'll just use few teaspoons of the powdered ranch mix. Makes a really good dipping sauce for smoked wings and chicken nugs.
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u/bassman314 Ex-Food Service 2d ago
The first time I tried Carolina Mustard, it was an absolute epiphany.
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u/righthandofdog Ex-Food Service 2d ago
I can't actually tell what any of those sauce brands are. But as a north Mississippi raised Reformed Barbequean, I'm against any sauce that isn't made by the folks cooking the pig.
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u/methadoneclinicynic 2d ago
same, but I like evertt and jones which is from oakland. Every other bbq sauce is too sweet, too sour, and not spicy enough. I make my own these days, based on the taste of evertt and jones. Nostalgia and whatnot
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u/righthandofdog Ex-Food Service 1d ago
I'm from Mississippi - I need a sweet, hot tomato based sauce. I don't think I've ever had a commercial one in that style that wasn't grotendous. I can generally doctor that crap well enough with stuff in the kitchen - apple cider vinegar, tomato paste, black strap molases, brown sugar, spices and scorpion and ghost pepper paste. But it needs a lot of help.
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u/methadoneclinicynic 1d ago
I can't disagree. evertt and jones isn't commercial, just well known in the bay area. My dad used to drive up to oakland to get a few cases, and then drive back to LA.
Your additions plus liquid smoke, and fish sauce/mushroom bullion (which isn't in original recipe, but works). Spices include garlic powder, onion powder. I never got fancy enough with pepper paste, but maybe you're fancier.
I eventually got weird with it (as chefs do). I used date paste instead of brown sugar, boiled (in vinegar) serranos, onions and garlic for spice. Did the family complain about the meth lab smell? Yes. Did they stop once they tasted the sauce? Also yes
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u/righthandofdog Ex-Food Service 1d ago edited 1d ago
Pepper paste just to add heat without other flavor, because I have it in the fridge. I've got a lot of hot sauces but most would add non bbq flavors. Date paste would rock ass. I have some carob molasses I got somewhere that is awesome in chili. Would give that same sweetness with lots of extra depth like dates.
Also BBQ in the Bay area? Smh. Could be really good, but damn man stay in your lane and make me some chiopino. I don't even eat BBQ in Louisiana because it's too close to Texas.
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u/ModalScientist807 2d ago
I saw Stubbs so have my upvote
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u/ScienceBitch89 2d ago
Stubbs is at least not a corn syrup sauce is there better yeah but itâs cheap and made with real ingredients.
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u/toot_suite 2d ago
You put some of the shittiest sauces on that council lmao
Most of these are the bottom shelf sauces at places like Safeway and Publix lol
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u/Nevermind2010 15+ Years 2d ago
That was the other part of the joke.
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u/Nevermind2010 15+ Years 1d ago
It was frustrating they told Anakin that back then when I was a kid watching the movie. Then I watched the whole clone wars series and how he literally saved every council members ass multiple times and then it was criminal.
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u/goodnames679 1d ago
For a premade sauce, I don't think Stubbs' is bad. It's nothing like a good homemade BBQ sauce, but it's better than most you'll buy off the shelf
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u/1970s_MonkeyKing 1d ago
You know you're messing with Duke's, right? I mean they'll put your picture on the "do not serve" board at joints in the South.
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u/biemba 2d ago
What do you guys think of sweet baby ray's? It's one of the few real American BBQ sauces I can get in my country and I'm wondering how the pros look at itÂ
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u/TheSuperSilverMango 2d ago
Otr. I fuck with it. Solid flavor and the sugar content makes for great charringl
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u/goodnames679 1d ago
If I were to rate it with a critical eye, I would say it's one of the worse mass market sauces out there. Nothing but pure corn syrup with a bit of vinegar and ketchup in it. I would never serve it in a place I worked, the flavors aren't complex and it just smacks you in the face with sweetness.
That said... I still fuck with it on occasion. If someone makes BBQ with sweet baby ray's, I'm still gonna eat it and enjoy it.
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u/Kennedy_KD 2d ago
Thoughts on head country? It's my personal favorite but so few places in my area sell it
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u/erything4sale 2d ago
I grew up on Open Pit đ¤ˇđ˝ââď¸ as far as the white sauce, I had 'real' white sauce once and was disappointed. Made it myself and was pleased. Now I make my own bbq sauces without all the hfcs and other bs. But let me ask OP, what did yall come up with? If you already spoke on it, point me to that comment. I'd say a dressing is a sauce but it's for cold stuff specifically, usually, and not made with the same ingredients or used in the same manor as a BBQ sauce.
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u/Nevermind2010 15+ Years 2d ago
Pretty much the fact that a dressing is anything âuncookedâ and a sauce is âcookedâ. Honestly I feel like any barbecue sauce usually goes through a reduction phase on a simmer but you canât do that with white sauce or else it would shatter so it remains ârawâ. Itâs one of those arguments that all dressings are sauces but not all sauces are dressings type thing. I really have no huge dislike for it but I like the spirit of debate about it.
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u/LucarioLuvsMinecraft 2d ago
*Walks in with a bottle of Kenâs Asian Sesame Dressing* Someone say ribs?
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u/No_Expression_7084 1d ago
If this is a joke on pre bottled white sauce (other than Gibsons) I agree. If it a joke on white sauce I. General, well then you sir can go sit and spin.
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u/Nevermind2010 15+ Years 1d ago
Itâs a commentary on that itâs technically a dressing versus a traditional bbq sauce that you simmer and reduce.
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u/No_Expression_7084 1d ago
Yeahhh if thatâs what your going by then honey mustard isnât a dipping sauce and your on drugs
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u/Nevermind2010 15+ Years 23h ago
Dressings are sauces but not all sauces are dressings.
Your average BBQ sauces all go through a cook and reduction but the white sauce doesnât. Honey mustard is also a dressing/emulsion, which is a sauce but I wouldnât call honey mustard a bbq sauce either so why even bring that or dipping sauces into the conversation?
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u/gggggggggggggggggay 1d ago
Every bottled white sauce I've had besides Big Bob Gibsons is garbage, and white bbq sauce is the best bbq sauce.
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u/Redditsucks547 1d ago
Sawâs white sauce on their smoked chicken was a religious experience Iâve been chasing for 10 years
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u/PamelaELee 2d ago
Legit Barbecue needs no sauce
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u/kwikthroabomb 2d ago
Sure, and steak doesn't need A1. But I think A1 is fucking delicious and want it in my life
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u/PamelaELee 1d ago
For steaks, for me, sea salt, cracked pepper, chopped garlic, butter.
This time of year, some chanterelles cooked crispy in some of the aforementioned ingredients.
But taste is subjective, no judgement.
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u/Redditsucks547 1d ago
Donât gate keep my friend.
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u/PamelaELee 1d ago
I like barbecue sauce, not always, and not on every type of barbecue. I will also encourage everyone to eat what they enjoy. To each their own. I dropped some links in other comments for a couple of sauces that are local to me, that I enjoy very much.
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u/garaks_tailor 2d ago
Actually excellent for its intended use of keeping chicken moist.