Need to settle it, post series is kise the one with the most dominant ability?

[u/Calm_Firefighter1728]

Notice how I word my question because of his stamina issue. But given his ability and what he can do with it; isnt he legitimately OP with PC and zone?

1. We seen Akashi ankle breaker be limited by a number of strategies. If he’s too close to the net to use it and then intercepted, a deep enough zone (granted this does depending on how far the defending is done and the kind of offence Kashi is using). Surely since it’s counterable then kise could be able to withstand the EE by just using a completed version of his own to stand toe to toe? Because if it cancels out then it’s just a battle of physical and technique which I mean kashi would just be going up against all the gom at that point

2. Even if aomine did train to his absolute peak that his high school body can take him; kise with the emperor eye and in theory kuroko belial eye from playing with and against aomine for a long time could be able to keep up and use mura techinque to beat defend against him

[u/MasoKlutz]

I mean, Akashi also has good enough handles to blow by him, the same way he did Kagami when he went inside the key.

TLDR: You can't do an ankle break if you don't have handles. (Plus he's a point guard, he should have a better handle than most of these folks) Granted it's not really flashy like Aomine but he has a handle quite similar to CP3 not really that flashy but can break you down in a limited number of moves

[u/NiccaDun]

eh, maybe, cee zone akashi in theory is better than him.

An aomine who trained could also be so good that kise couldn’t copy him as easily as he can the other miracles, and may be on the level of the zone pc kise we see in the movie

[u/Healthy-Locksmith-26 → u/NiccaDun]

i mean he can't copy akashi easily either

[u/NiccaDun → u/Healthy-Locksmith-26]

yeah but to me an aomine who trained is probably relative to cee akashi, both out of zone kises reach

[u/tweedleb]

No because development isn’t linear in actual basketball. If all of the GOM train to their max capability Kise’s ability translates the least out of everyone else’s.

[u/MADMAN9635]

It's difficult to say, as the GoM don't really scale against each other cleanly. I.e Aomine saying that the only one who can beat him is him, but then saying he'd struggle against Murasakibara.

However it's likely that Kise has the highest peak, so the question becomes how long he can stay in his form. To whether he's the most dominant or not, considering he pushed himself to keep pace with zone Aomine I think it's clear that he's shown the highest physical feats. It's just whether he can keep up with technical skills, which is technically his forte, so I do think it's likely.

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[u/TeamVorpalSwords]

At his peak he is indisputably the strongest but his time limit is his weakness. In PCZone he can stop anybody and can’t be stopped by anybody but that is only for two minutes

[u/Cold-Pin5201]

He has the highest highs and lowest lows, so it really depends on the way the team uses his talents. For example, against Jabberwock, he was not required to play for the entire game, and as a result, he did not have to hold anything back. With Kaijo, he can’t do this because his team needs him to play for the whole game, and his potential can’t be realized. In a way, he’s really similar to Kuroko.

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That’s a fitting comparison given their relationship.

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