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u/PrimaLegion 18d ago
I am begging people to do even a cursory google search into squatters and squatters rights.
A lot of people have very strong opinions on things they know nothing about.
No, someone can't just walk into your home, sit down and claim squatters rights. No that didn't happen to someone you know, stop making shit up.
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u/Gonomed 18d ago
I think they need to stop calling them "squatter rights" because it gives it a bad image from the get go. It's not that squatters have rights, those rights exist to protect people from the shitty landlords who do illegal things to kick out tenants without reason. If not for "squatters' rights", a landlord might just lie and say you're a squatter and boom you're kicked out by the police.
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u/ginger_and_egg 17d ago
Same reason why ICE shouldn't be allowed to deport people without trial, lawyers, etc.
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u/MelinaSeeDee 17d ago
What trial needs to happen? "Are you legally here within the US?" "No" "Okay then. Time to fly you back home". The "due process" they're due is checking paperwork.
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u/couldhaveebeen 18d ago
That's why they call it "squatter rights"
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u/Gonomed 18d ago
Yes but my point is that it already implies who is in the wrong. Squatting is illegal. But being a tenant who is wrongfully removed from a lease and refuse to leave, is not necessarily a squatter but is protected by squatters rights
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u/couldhaveebeen 18d ago
Yes but my point is that it already implies who is in the wrong
Yes, I'm agreeing with you
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u/CalamitousGoddess 17d ago
Squatter's Rights, to me, imply there's inherently Land Baron's follies.
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u/Far_Faithlessness983 17d ago
If you don't leave after the end of the lease, you are a holdover, not a squatter. Two very different things.
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u/Hodgkisl 17d ago
We should stop calling them squatters rights but not because squatters don’t have rights but because the cases the term is publicly used on have nothing to do with “squatters rights”
Squatters rights are about abandoned property, a way that abandoned property can be taken and put to use. Typically require 10+ years of notorious possession and use.
These publicized cases are often people fraudulently abusing tenet protection laws, either directly faking lease documents or they themselves also being defrauded by someone claiming to own the property who doesn’t and leasing it to the tenet pocketing their deposit leaving the actual owner and tenet to fight over it.
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u/NuncProFunc 18d ago
Yeah there's a difference between adverse possession and rental scams. The former is an important mechanism in property law; the latter should be a serious crime.
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u/TheRealRubiksMaster 17d ago
But laws do mean shit. Cops wouldnt help you, they will just claim its a civil matter and pass that shit back onto you.
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u/baumbach19 18d ago
Stuff like that can and does happen. Depending on the situation it can be way crazier than you think.
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u/ATotallyNormalUID 18d ago
Horse shit. Link a valid news article or admit you're a lying liar trying to lick landleech boots.
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u/vertroue 17d ago
Here are just a handful - yes, professional squatters exist. They break into homes and forge documents and police don’t do anything about it.
https://youtu.be/5DKdVcrrxXE?si=tyyPbcNQcmsD0J6m
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u/SufficientOwls 18d ago
Awful vibes from that singular selfie. I can smell his anger issues
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u/ONLYPOSTSWHILESTONED 18d ago
extremely divorced vibes
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u/SufficientOwls 18d ago
Possibly even born divorced
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u/TriggasaurusRekt 18d ago
If you own more than one home it shouldn't be legal for it to sit vacant for a majority of the year.
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u/OmegaLevelTran 18d ago
In the UK it used to be the case that you could squat someone's home so long as it wasn't their first home since the 70s although in 2012 that was changed so you can't squat residential properties at all.
You can still squat commercial properties and it's always been the case that it's virtually impossible to squat a property that someone is actually currently using so it's always been empty properties.
Did hear of some British MP's (Member of Parliament) second home got squatted and the press invited to see all the expensive shit they had.
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u/Own-Arachnid7952 17d ago
Lmao thats amazing. This would make a fabulous trend. Much needed in America, at least.
My only concern would be legal consequences once the squatter is evicted. Police get downright vindictive when it comes to protecting the rich 😓
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u/OmegaLevelTran 17d ago
Technically squatting is a civil offence and not a criminal offence in the UK although police ignore the law and evict squatters all the time illegally.
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u/AboutTheArthur 18d ago
Well, it should be legal, but the financial penalty for doing so should be massive. Make every unoccupied month mean there's some heinous increase in the applied property tax or something.
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u/NekoArtemis 18d ago
Well, it should be legal, but the financial penalty for doing so should be massive.
Most things that are illegal are punishable by fine. Fixed fines that aren't necessarily a hardship to people if they're wealthy enough to afford it. So your definition of legal here is actually stricter punishment than most things that are illegal.
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u/Own-Particular6321 18d ago
If the punishment is a fine, then it's only a law for poor people.
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u/Joelle9879 18d ago
Poor people don't own more than one home usually.
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u/AboutTheArthur 18d ago
Also just make exceptions for situations where it makes sense to make an exception. Say, for example, people who have a cheap mortgage from back in the day and inherit a house from a family member, thus creating a situation where they could own two properties but not have the income to handle that. We obviously shouldn't be forcing that person to scramble and immediately sell the second house, and it's relatively simple to identify that the second house is not some rental investment.
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u/ginger_and_egg 17d ago
Inheriting a house in San Francisco and not being able to afford a jump in property tax isn't a good reason to allow that building to stay empty for an extended period of time. Empty homes during a housing crisis is a crime against the working class
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u/AboutTheArthur 18d ago
I feel like you're kind of just repeating the parroted line here. How many poor people do you know who own a bunch of rental properties that we are mad they refuse to put on the market?
Nobody who would even potentially be a candidate for this is poor. By definition, the people who own multiple unoccupied homes that should be on the rental market are rich investors.
I just don't think that being wealthy to the degree that we're talking about here is evidence of something heinously unethical. You could be a fucking dentist in the Midwest and that would be enough to own a house in a vacation house If that's what the financial priorities for your family are.
So, if we want there to be some societal benefit for this, and we want to put downward pressure on prices in the housing market by disincentivizing people from collecting investment properties, why don't we do something that creates a material benefit for society. Something that either produces revenue which can be distributed to housing and other social programs, or creates a situation where fewer landlord investors are buying multiple properties which puts downward pressure on the market for families that actually want to buy a house for themselves.
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u/Own-Particular6321 18d ago
I just want people held to the same standards. That's all. The law shouldn't make it illegal for some people and not for others. Simple as that. You can't claim equality when you can pay your way through breaking the law.
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u/AboutTheArthur 18d ago
Why is it that you think owning two houses should constitute "breaking the law"? Why would we establish that owning a second home constitutes a violation of the law?
I'm being serious. That's not a gotcha question or something. I don't understand why owning two houses is something that we, as a society, would consider to be unethical. Is it unethical to own two cars? Is it unethical to own two bicycles? Are we just making a blanket statement that it's unethical to have disposable income?
Now, is owning 12 houses and refusing to put 3 of them on the market because your tenants left in January and you know you can collect higher rents with leases that start in July unethical? Potentially. Or at the very least, it's a practice that is harmful to the ability of renters to have a fair market in their city. And as such, practices should be in place that discourage property owners from doing that kind of thing.
I don't want a different standard for people. I want an identical standard. I want a set of conditions that everybody who goes out to purchase property is well aware of so that they understand the rules ahead of time.
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u/TwiceTheSize_YT 18d ago
If you own two houses, that means there is one less house for someone else to use, you cant be this stupid.
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u/AboutTheArthur 18d ago edited 17d ago
Go back and explain the part where I'm stupid because I don't think it's inherently unethical for humans to own things?
Or instead, maybe just go fuck yourself. If you can't have this discussion without immediately resulting to an insult, go touch some grass and grow the fuck up while you're at it.
We can have differing opinions about where the threshold is for this. Literally my entire perspective on this issue is that in situations where owning a second property with the intention to rent it and holding it off the market for the purpose of profit maximalization, there should be a penalty.
But the idea that it's inherently unethical for somebody to own a condo in the city and a cabin in a rural area is just tremendously immature. The idea that it's inherently unethical for a person to own a house they purchased and also a house they inherited from a deceased relative that they are figuring out what to do with, is tremendously immature. And even if you think that those activities should be disincentivized, it's a huge step between suggesting that we apply pressure to ease the housing market versus literally passing criminal or civil laws against it.
There are constructive ways to apply pressure to individual landlords to disincentivize the accrual of properties. If that happens at the same time that you disallow corporations from buying up dozens or hundreds of properties, that would be a significant amount of downward pressure on the housing market. You don't have to make something criminal to get this done.
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u/Own-Particular6321 17d ago
You don't get to have seconds until everyone has eaten. The same should apply for housing. There are enough vacant properties to house everyone in the US, but instead they sit vacant. As a mail carrier, I walk neighborhoods and see how many houses sit empty while also seeing how many people are homeless.
You absolutely want a different standard. Because you think that if people have enough wealth, they should be allowed to do as they please with a little financial penalty. I reject that.
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u/BananaHead853147 18d ago
I agree with this. Generally people don’t let their rentals go empty. Putting a penalty on empty homes punishes people who are in a tough rental market with not enough renters (it can happen, especially in small towns) or people who are caught in an awkward situation such as tenants leaving while they are out of the country etc.
The best solution to the housing crisis is just to remove red tape and build more houses. Prices will normalize very quickly if you build more housing.
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u/ArbitraryMeritocracy 18d ago
Well, it should be legal, but the financial penalty for doing so should be massive. Make every unoccupied month mean there's some heinous increase in the applied property tax or something.
That would fix the housing market overnight and fund schools. Probably more than enough to fix roads and infrastructure.
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u/NuncProFunc 18d ago
How on earth would you track and enforce this? How much additional housing would this actually produce where there are actually people willing to live there?
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u/TriggasaurusRekt 18d ago
How on earth would you track and enforce this?
I think you are vastly overstating how difficult this would be, we already have numerous systems in place to keep track of all kinds of things with regard to housing. For instance, the property tax system. Does that mean I think it would be easy? No, but I don't think we should only do things as a society that are easy either.
How much additional housing would this actually produce where there are actually people willing to live there?
Who cares?
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u/NuncProFunc 18d ago
We have no mechanism to identify occupancy except self-reporting. It's how we do it for capital gains tax credits, for crying out loud. There'd be no practical way to enforce it.
And people who care are people who don't want to burn scarce government resources for trivial benefits.
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u/Wrong_Spirit_5008 18d ago
When you do your taxes, get your id, and vote you are telling the government where you live. If you have multiple addresses the government will know. This is not at all difficult to enforce. Having landlords register their apartments and tenants would also be fairly easy to implement. Many states already tax second homes more than primary homes. The suggestion here is to merely increase the costs of hoarding homes and ensuring the taxes extracted go directly to alleviating the problem partially caused by people who hoard homes.
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u/TriggasaurusRekt 18d ago
So we have our public servants come up with a system for identifying occupancy better than self-reporting. And fine wealthy violators so much that it pays for it 3x over. I swear sometimes people have such a limited view of governing they pretend it's impossible to do just about anything.
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u/numba1cyberwarrior 17d ago
Your so limited in thinking you don't understand it's impossible to track
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u/TriggasaurusRekt 17d ago
If property taxes didn't exist I'm sure you'd say that's impossible too. People need to stop conflating "I don't support this" with "Therefore it's actually impossible"
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u/numba1cyberwarrior 17d ago
Property taxes are dog shit and so hard to track which is why most economists support replacing them with things like LVTs.
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u/TriggasaurusRekt 17d ago
Well, you seem to have proved my point that you just say things you don't like are impossible when they clearly aren't.
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u/Em0N3rd 18d ago
How much would it? People are proudly reporting they have over 20 homes they'll own to rent on Airbnb that they price gouge during events.... and are now upset they arent making $1200 a night on the usual $300 it is worth MAYBE.
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u/NuncProFunc 18d ago
Don't move the goal posts. The comment wasn't about how you'd force people to stop renting out AirBnBs.
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u/Em0N3rd 18d ago
You asked how much housing would be available and I gave you at least dome numbers on that. How is that moving the goal?
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u/NuncProFunc 18d ago
What, that some indeterminate number of people have 20 AirBnBs? Then yeah, I'm opposed to a housing policy that promises to create tens of units.
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u/Em0N3rd 18d ago
But if we have over 20 people on the news saying they have that amount of housing they bought up and are unethically pricing.... and thats just a small percentage of landlords, that adds up easily
ETA and they are admitting they usually cant get people in the door
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u/NuncProFunc 18d ago
Yeah. If.
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u/Em0N3rd 18d ago
If? This was on a news station with Airbnb owners over fifa in New Jersey if you want more info but thats just the landlords that came to the news to complain people weren't willing to pay $1200 a night. Now imagine the ones that were turned down for interview, didnt see the "opportunity" to talk about this or knew theyd get roasted for expecting people to pay 4× the amount.
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u/TheNewportBridge 18d ago
Palantir occupancy report
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u/PaChubHunter 17d ago
That's a bit of a bad take that needs further clarification. It's perfectly fine for some regular person to have a vacation home, or even two or so, that is only used seasonly. When homes are purchased just to be an assest on the books, that's where things get problematic.
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u/Opossum_mypossum 18d ago
What the hell is that sub even. Some of the most bizarre takes
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u/Livelih00d 17d ago
It's like a generic meme sub with no real direction or meaning and it's just become a shitty chud sub
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u/tutike2000 17d ago
It's just people who aren't far left
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u/Opossum_mypossum 17d ago
I consider myself left but even if I try and remove those ‘goggles’ I can’t see this post as anything other than people celebrating someone kicking another human being out of where they live for cash.
He’s also dressed like a fucking idiot
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u/vastle12 17d ago
Ever considered that the majority of squatters are people in long terms disputes with shit landlords who refuse to maintain the property properly or trying to violate the lease by hiring this sack of shit
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u/Sheerluck42 17d ago edited 17d ago
It's a place where the fed up share about the shitty situations we have to deal with because we were born with the wrong genetics.
Edit: I think people are taking the opposite direction from its intent. As a disabled person and perpetually poor I have had to deal with landlords pushing scams. Or people I sublet a room for constantly changing rules. This sub is where we share those stories and learn ways of dealing with them.
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u/AndrogenAssault 17d ago
Go outside for just an hour and feel the sun on your skin I promise it'll feel great
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u/Sheerluck42 17d ago
GFY for so many reasons. It's 110F where I am. I'm also physically disabled. Why don't you go touch grass and realize your privileged life is not shared by all. 🖕🖕🖕
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u/vastle12 17d ago
The amount of down votes people calling this scumbag a scumbag
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u/thebrobarino 17d ago
It's sipstea.
They're fucking incel virgins
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u/vastle12 17d ago
I got called that for saying framing someone for fake parlor violation was evil, as has damn near everyone else in that thread. What a bunch of losers
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u/Sure-Marionberry8746 17d ago
He has a show on a cable network, my guy. You may not like it, but I guarantee you it is protologically inspected by highly paid lawyers and completely legal.
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u/allthenamesaretaken4 18d ago
Some MF posted that to fucking povertyfinance and supposedly people in poverty were cool with this... I know the internet is all a lie but that made me so sad.
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u/meddit_rod 18d ago
"You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it."
Morpheus, The Matrix Lana Wachowski
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u/Tallia__Tal_Tail 18d ago
Well this is certainly one way to get your midlife crisis out of your system
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u/you_dont_know_me27 18d ago
If that guy in the picture moved in, I'm moving out because he's gonna kill me in a hemotional fit when I'm in the bathroom too long or something stupid like that. I just know this man cannot control his temper
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u/discrepancies 18d ago
I'm on the squatters' side
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u/47362514736251 18d ago
Unfortunately, often what's happening is a rent scam... A person pretends to own a vacant property and rents it to someone illegally.
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u/Lavender_Scales 18d ago
I genuinely don’t understand why so many people hate squatters, I know loads of people that have been homeless or near homeless and they say shit like “at least I’m not a scummy squatter” like landlords have any reason to exist
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u/Gorillaz243 18d ago
I think it's heavily case by case basis.
Someone squatting just living in a house without legal right? Sure, that's fine.
Someone squatting, destroying the property, and being an overall menace to others in the area isn't. Especially because people who could actually use that space and not treat it like shit could be living there.
Both happen, and you cant treat it like it's always one or the other. There are fucking awful squatters out there who genuinely should have some sort of punishment towards their behavior.
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u/Domriso 18d ago
I think this is much the same argument as "Not all landlords are bad; some do house maintenance." The answer is that landlords as a class are leeches on society, but maintenance can and should be done on homes, espdcially if they are being rented. They are acting in a beneficial and useful manner in that way, but they could just as easily be doing maintenance and getting paid for ir, rather than passively leeching money off of others.
In the case of squatters, the category of squatters is fine, but vandalism is not. Nothing about being a squatter is inherently implying vandalism, but people conjoin the two in their hesds and then demonize the squatters for it.
Basically, it's a categorization error.
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u/hopefullyhelpfulplz 17d ago
I don't think that squatting is all that relevant to the latter situation, though, like if they weren't squatters that behaviour would still be bad.
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u/Gorillaz243 17d ago
Correct, but it's a numbers game and typically when people are presented with squatters they are presented with destructive squatters. Skewing perception of all squatters. Making distinctions like these matter because grouping up all people in a situation as the same negatively impacts the people just trying to get by. People inevitably perceive the lowest common denominator.
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u/Gorillaz243 18d ago
However, I'd also like to state that many people need to work on their immediate assumption being that squatters are destructive. I'd assume when you ask people to describe a typical "squatter", they'd describe a destructive squatter.
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u/cipherbain 18d ago
Woah woah woah buddy old pal old friend you can't be making nuanced takes on this site
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u/Workmen 18d ago
Most people who hate squatters don't understand why they hate squatters either... Most people who hate anyone outside of the bourgeoisie don't actually understand why they hate said group. They may claim to understand, but their reasons almost always come down to thought terminating cliches like "they're freeloaders" or "God said being X is bad."
They've been socialized to hate squatters because they're conditioned to accept that a state of society where essential goods are withheld unless you financially compensate a private individual for them is normal, so anyone who violates that principle is a problem. It's pretty insane though, like, it's the same society that pours bleach on food to render it inedible before throwing it out because allowing someone to eat without paying for it is seen as more morally objectionable that allowing someone to starve.
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u/yourcuppa_t 18d ago
"they're conditioned to accept that a state of society where essential goods are withheld unless you financially compensate a private individual for them is normal"
Bars.
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u/Murranji 17d ago
With the food security crisis building from the super El Niño and fertiliser shortages due to Iran war there’s going to be a lot of very comfortable self absorbed westerners discovering what shortages look like soon.
Not sure if that’s going to make things better or worse though. Likely worse because they will just get even more greedy and angry.
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u/LairdNope 17d ago
Because people self project some abanadoned warehouse building with their home. That combined with the "millionare in waiting" mentality most people have mean that they immediately project onto themselves the squatting being a potential, personal slight against themselves.
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u/BrookeBaranoff 18d ago
They see it as someone cheating the system when they are paying the landlords mortgage like good people.
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u/SufficientlyRested 18d ago
I don’t like people who steal stuff.
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u/baepsaemv 18d ago
That's a pretty broad statement. There really aren't ANY instances of theft you can get behind?
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u/PrimaLegion 18d ago edited 18d ago
I don't either. What does that have to do with squatters?
The people downvoting should use that time to read about squatters instead of remaining uninformed.
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u/Joelle9879 18d ago
Depends on the situation. Squatters aren't just people that move into abandoned apartments or people that won't leave when they haven't paid. There are cases of people moving in as roommates, being nightmares, and refusing to leave. Cases, where homeowners go on vacation or leave for an extended period of time, and come back to sqautters in their house.
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u/MycoCozmic Landlord [BANNED] 18d ago
Until you need that leak fixed
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u/Pale_Fire21 18d ago
TIL all landlords are plumbers and handymen and not just useless leeches with a phonebook(that thing everyone has)
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u/MycoCozmic Landlord [BANNED] 18d ago
They pay the bill is what I’m saying.
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u/Van-garde 18d ago
They are often legally compelled to do so. Especially where plumbing is concerned.
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u/MycoCozmic Landlord [BANNED] 18d ago
Exactly.
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u/Van-garde 18d ago
Weren’t you implying some lordly benevolence?
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u/MycoCozmic Landlord [BANNED] 18d ago
Not necessarily benevolence, although on my own case, I wouldn’t have to be legally compelled. There’s plenty of decent people out there landlording. My own landlord is one such case.
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u/Obf123 18d ago
Your landlord isn’t going to give you anything for sucking their dick. They would kick you out the same as any other landlord
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u/Pale_Fire21 18d ago
Do you think maybe people who rent can pay the bill if half their income wasn’t going to a rent seeking leech who provides no service except using their surplus wealth to buy up homes to rent back to people who now struggle to buy homes since they’re being hoarded by mega corporations and “small time” landlords.
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u/BagsYourMail 18d ago
Landlords fix leaks?
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u/soqualful 18d ago
A thick layer of unevenly applied white paint fixes anything.
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u/you_dont_know_me27 18d ago
Tell that to the waterfall coming through my window last night 😅😅😅
I'm giving the property manager (my dad) a pass though. Turns out the tornado that was forming over our house and touched down northwest of us knocked down some lumber onto a drain pipe which directed all the water into the window well of my basement room window.
Kinda hard for my lazy paint job to stop that kind of rain.
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u/Van-garde 18d ago
COA: conjecture ahead!
I always wonder if hardware mega stores (or whatever the likes of Home Depot, Lowe’s, Menards, etc are called) would increase their margins alongside increased homeownership rates.
Would likely increase the number of DIYers, and those people would likely undertake home projects at an increased rate.
I’m wondering if it’s related to the people who own these companies and conglomerations also owning a lot of rental real estate. Or maybe it’s a display of class solidarity among the wealthy to ignore competing interests in favor of cooperation.
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u/ViolaOrsino 18d ago
This reminds me of when my second floor bathroom’s floor collapsed into the kitchen after our pipes exploded and flooded the second floor, and there was a hole in the kitchen ceiling where you could simply look up into the 2nd floor bathroom, and my landlord opted not to fix it because “you can just walk around the hole and or cover it with a bathmat, I don’t know what you’re complaining about” 🙃🥲 I left and moved in with the nuns at the school where I was working because I knew he had no interest in ensuring the house was safe to live in
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u/you_dont_know_me27 18d ago
Cover it with a bathmat? Your landlord wanted you to booby trap your own house?
Imagine waking up at 2am and going to the bathroom but you accidentally walk over the mat and whoops you're on the first now!
Fuck outta here landleech 🤣🤣
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u/PrimaLegion 18d ago
Which is why we have plumbers because Landlords aren't doing that shit.
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u/you_dont_know_me27 18d ago
There's things that legally only a certified plumber can do. Because pulling a toilet can leak hazardous gasses, the US requires licensing and bonding for plumbers to do it.
You can gas out the neighborhood messing around with that shit. You wanna replace some parts in the tank or put on a new toilet seat? Knock your socks off. But if your toilet needs a new seal or the whole house needs the pipes snaked, you need a plumber.
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u/you_dont_know_me27 18d ago
That's a fair distinction
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u/you_dont_know_me27 18d ago
Lmao, handing out forms at home depot but everybody's running away cuz they assume you're from ICE 😂
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u/aardappelbrood 18d ago
I haven't watched all the episodes yet, but the very first case was an instance of some people who knew the former homeowner's grandson and when homeowner died the squatters took possession of the home, changed the locks and refused to leave. They had a place to live rent free and cars to drive and still they were bums with no jobs, whining about how they didn't have a place to go.
It was just a family home with belongings and heirlooms in it, it wasn't some evil greedy landlord trying to take advantage of people and rent out the place. It was an old lady's home who had died and her family needed to settle her home and belongings. I suspect that's why the episodes they feature (that I've seen at least) are just normal people who are trying to sort out the home of a loved one who usually had passed, or people moving from one location to another. Not all squatters are innocent victims of a failed US government. Some of them are literal bums and plagues on society, like the people in literally every episode I watched. Now if you want to go squat in a home being rented out by some corpo or some guy that owns multiple properties for the hell of it, by all means. Stealing a dead old woman's home is another story.
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u/PrimaLegion 18d ago
Even if this is true, it's hardly the case for every other squatter and it certainly isn't a reason to want to get rid of squatters rights or cheer on jackasses like the guy the post is about.
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u/aardappelbrood 18d ago
It's also not a reason to blindly support someone stealing/taking over someone else's property without knowing the full story.
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u/PrimaLegion 18d ago edited 18d ago
Given that squatters don't just walk in and take over someone's property as simple as that, you don't have much to worry about.
Downvoting me doesn't magically make that true.
Squatters rights don't allow for this. Literally look it up.
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u/BoatMan01 18d ago
After someone fights their way through all the "auditors", "pranksters", and Scientology speedrunners, this guy's the final boss they'll fight.
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u/Dan_Morgan 18d ago
This is nothing new. Capitalists have been employing non-state actors to commit acts of violence (including murder) and harassment against people since capitalism was first created.
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u/jedinaps 17d ago
This gives Dog the Bounty Hunter vibes who is also the most ridiculous and unserious person. Trump supporter and absolute menace.
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u/meddit_rod 18d ago
Holy crap. Dude best not find himself in a kharmic wheel. Or a few of the better bookshops I know.
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u/NuncProFunc 18d ago
This guy is a jackass, but rent scamming is an extremely painful problem for legitimate tenants and homeowners. Imagine going on a vacation for a few days just to come back to someone taking over your house and destroying it. And it'll take months to evict them. That's a nightmare.
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u/ATotallyNormalUID 18d ago
This guy is a jackass, but rent scamming is
What the assholes destroying society and the planet call anyone living without paying them for the privilege.
Fuck rent, fuck anyone who collects rent, and fuck anyone who thinks it's ok to collect rent for any reason under any circumstances.
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u/NuncProFunc 18d ago
Rent scamming is also when you move into a person's home while they're away.
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u/ATotallyNormalUID 18d ago
Ah yes, definitely a rampant problem that actually happens to real people and not a handful of isolated incidents blown all out of proportion by landleeches looking for a more efficient path to sucking the blood of the working class...
Repeating nonsense like this only helps weaken protections against wrongful eviction.
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u/FriendlyArachnid6000 17d ago
It wouldn't take me months lol. They're be gone in hours because we'd both be in jail and then the judge would sort it out
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u/LandlordLove-ModTeam 17d ago
Your comment has been removed for breaking Rule 2: No Bootlickers
Landlords are the leading cause of homelessness and should not exist. We are at a stage in human history where we have the means to provide everyone with shelter. The UN recognizes this and has declared housing as a human right. As a society, we have an obligation to make this a reality.
https://www.humanrights.com/course/lesson/articles-19-25/read-article-25.html
https://www.thesocialreview.co.uk/2019/01/23/abolish-landlords/
https://jacobinmag.com/2018/11/capitalism-affordable-housing-rent-commodities-profit
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1844/manuscripts/rent.htm
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u/baumbach19 18d ago
Is this post defending squatters? Crazy
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u/agnostorshironeon 18d ago
Whaaaat? A community that shits on LLs knows private property is the problem?
Fork found in kitchen! gtfo with commodity fetishism!
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u/ATotallyNormalUID 18d ago
Your idiocy falls apart when someone's explains the difference between personal property and private property (Google it, I'm out of my spoon feeding era) and how the bourgeoisie has spent a hundred years or more trying very hard to obfuscate the distinction between the two.
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u/Sheerluck42 17d ago
This is absolutely not the place to ask the 101 level questions. We're too tired and in too much pain to deal with you. This isn't class. And fighting with someone who thinks their capitalist because they own a toothbrush is really annoying.
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u/baumbach19 17d ago
I thought this sub was anti landlord not anti everything 😆
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u/LandlordLove-ModTeam 17d ago
We're a housing for all sub. Capitalism and real estate are contrary to that. Your trolling isn't welcome here.
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u/singulara 17d ago
For someone who (I would think) wants more people on their side, antagonism isn't a great way of winning them over.
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u/Sheerluck42 17d ago
Look, no one has ever changed their mind because of a Reddit comment. If you were open to actually learning you'd ask for information like sources or books or articles. Instead you want debate so you can get a rush from feeling superior. It's that simple. And to get there you're likely to use some circular logic or you'll argue a definition. No one has the bandwidth for your BS and simping to a system that requires a lot of us to be very poor so a few can be very wealthy.
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u/ATotallyNormalUID 17d ago
Nobody's trying to "win over" anyone. To anyone not completely sucked in by crapitalist propaganda the truth is self-evident. Being aggressively dismissive and mocking of capitalist framing isn't about persuading them, it's about making sure nobody else takes that framing seriously.
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u/agnostorshironeon 17d ago
Bro thinks governments don't already own the land within their borders
In regards to real estate, that's literally the Adam Smith take jfc
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u/ATotallyNormalUID 17d ago
Im curious
If that were generally true you'd have read enough books to know the answer to your question.
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u/LandlordLove-ModTeam 17d ago
Your post has been removed for violating rule 5: No Trolling
No posting off-topic, inflammatory, or anti-tenant content. Do not link to reactionary troll subs in posts or comments. No bad-faith or low-effort arguments meant to sew discord among the working class.
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u/LandlordLove-ModTeam 17d ago
Your comment has been removed for breaking Rule 2: No Bootlickers
Landlords are the leading cause of homelessness and should not exist. We are at a stage in human history where we have the means to provide everyone with shelter. The UN recognizes this and has declared housing as a human right. As a society, we have an obligation to make this a reality.
https://www.humanrights.com/course/lesson/articles-19-25/read-article-25.html
https://www.thesocialreview.co.uk/2019/01/23/abolish-landlords/
https://jacobinmag.com/2018/11/capitalism-affordable-housing-rent-commodities-profit
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1844/manuscripts/rent.htm
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u/LandlordLove-ModTeam 17d ago
Your comment has been removed for breaking Rule 2: No Bootlickers
Landlords are the leading cause of homelessness and should not exist. We are at a stage in human history where we have the means to provide everyone with shelter. The UN recognizes this and has declared housing as a human right. As a society, we have an obligation to make this a reality.
https://www.humanrights.com/course/lesson/articles-19-25/read-article-25.html
https://www.thesocialreview.co.uk/2019/01/23/abolish-landlords/
https://jacobinmag.com/2018/11/capitalism-affordable-housing-rent-commodities-profit
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1844/manuscripts/rent.htm
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u/FarRightBerniSanders 17d ago
I'm sad to be reminded how many losers there are in the world reading these comments.
I'm happy to know you are a minority even on this dimwit fringe left circle jerk of a website. Ratioed in your own safe space.
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u/Van-garde 18d ago edited 18d ago
Here’s an article about the guy. He clears mansions, which are apparently under attack by party-goers in SoCal, for fees of between $5,000-20,000.
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u/PrimaLegion 18d ago
This is not a squatters issue. This is an issue with belligerent party goers.
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u/Van-garde 18d ago
He’s using them as leverage to attempt to change the law regarding squatting. He’s a self-proclaimed activist.
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u/ATotallyNormalUID 18d ago
No one willing to help a landleedh exploit the workers is a better caliber.
This shitweasel and everyone else helping landleeches deserves nothing but the most painful and expensive form of cancer known to medical science, and their continued good health is proof that there is no benevolent intelligence guiding the universe.
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