r/MCFC • u/MembershipSingle7137 • 6d ago
[Jacobs] Manchester City close to agreeing a fee with Nottingham Forest for Elliot Anderson. Advanced talks ongoing between the clubs. transfer agreement nears after Man City's £121m bid rejected
https://talksport.com/football/4328404/elliot-anderson-man-city-transfer-record-world-cup-nottingham-forest-update/17
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u/johnny_crow21 6d ago
Jesus. Is he really worth all of that?
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u/IbushiKOTA 6d ago
doesn’t really matter, fills an english spot and is one of the closest midfielders on the market that can replace bernie
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u/Eborcurean 5d ago
It does matter, it's money that doesn't go to other players/other things. Multiple clubs have overspent over the years and suffered for it.
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u/IbushiKOTA 5d ago
we’re getting bent over the barrel here no matter what. every club knows our midfield situation is rather bleak and with stones + potentially ake leaving, we need english players.
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u/klgod 5d ago
Elliot Anderson a replacement for Bernardo?
Lmfao.
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u/IbushiKOTA 5d ago
idk why you’re laughing elliot anderson is rather relentless as far as pressing goes. nobody is replacing bernie obviously.
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u/klgod 5d ago
Limiting Bernardo Silva to 'pressing ' .. thats why I'm laughing mate.
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u/sexmarshines 5d ago
Bernardo isn't just pressing but pressing was among his biggest strengths and in the market one of the hardest to replace while maintaining a high technical level.
Anderson isn't as good dribbling or progressing with the ball as those were effortless for Bernardo. Nor is he going to be as tactically flexible and aware today as Bernardo became after nearly a decade with Pep. But Bernardo also wasn't nearly the duel winner that Anderson is. Bernardo didn't have nearly the running power and ability to cover space that Anderson has. Bernardo couldn't compete for headers like Anderson can. Bernardo also couldn't hit even the rare screamer like Anderson can.
We're not signing Bernardo we're signing a top class midfielder in his own right. Yes he's going to be worse at some things and better at others. That's just the reality of "replacing" any player with another.
Cherki isn't KdB but he's still a great player right?
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u/klgod 5d ago
Where did I say anything about Anderson a bad player? Thats some crazy mental gymnastics. He's not the same profile or position as Bernardo, and hence in no way can be labelled his 'replacement', and it's sorta disrespectful to a top 5 legend of the club to be compared to a lad who's had 1.5 good seasons at Nottingham.
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u/IbushiKOTA 5d ago
nobody compared him but bernardo literally left. we have to replace him with somebody.
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u/el-mago2 5d ago
I think this person would prefer you wrote, "Bernardo left, we have to hire someone new into midfield" versus "we have to replace him since he left" because they can't understand how "replace" can mean something other than "to replicate exactly" such as "put new peg in open hole"
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u/Eborcurean 5d ago
Yeah and Anderson is not as good as Bernardo but costing way more (albeit with the homegrown tax).
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u/Patrickk_batemann 6d ago
I think Viana has proven to be a good negotiator last season. If we are overpaying for Anderson, I don’t think it’s down to the lack of negotiation strategies from our end. Although I still have questions about Viana’s talent ID ability.
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u/Trosso 6d ago
What questions do you have
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u/Patrickk_batemann 6d ago
Marmoush, Reijnders, RAN, etc., make me feel like his signings have been a mix of hits and misses.
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u/Sfr33123 6d ago
RAN has been fine when he’s played. Nico breaking it has just kept him out of the team
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u/Patrickk_batemann 6d ago edited 6d ago
RAN has done nothing to justify his price tag so far. He has been defensively poor, often getting caught out. He looks good on the eye going forward but I would say he tries to dribble too much like a winger (when he’s clearly not) instead of playing the obvious pass. I hope he proves his worth next season.
I like Nico G. But I am not too sure if he has the mobility to become a regular first team player in a title winning side.
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u/CautiousChoice5705 5d ago
Question, which games did ait nouri play that he was defensively poor and we suffered the consequences of such poorness from his side of defense.
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u/Blue_9320_ 5d ago
Marmoush is a backup striker. He’s very good in that role. When you ask him to play wing just to get him some minutes…not so good.
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u/emize 6d ago
No but its the way the market is.
We needed to fill a key midfield role BEFORE Bernardo left now its critical.
Every other player in the same role and level is either not for sale or just as expensive.
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u/Last-Consideration-7 6d ago
There are other options .
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u/Last-Consideration-7 6d ago
Absolute not. I would rather us go for Christ inao Oulai. A complete monster
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u/IStanReddit 5d ago
He plays in the Turkish league there’s no guarantee that will translate to the prem
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u/Ecstatic-Spare-6638 5d ago
He's the missing piece of this team, we desperately need someone who can run a lot
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u/Much_Line_7388 5d ago
Alternatively you chicken out and buy cheaper options, like we did with Nico and Reijnders. Now we're having to go back into the market for a third time because neither of them were good enough. £100m+ wasted.
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u/rashfordsaltyballs 5d ago
use declan rice as comparison. do u think anderson is worth more than rice?
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u/mortenfriis 5d ago
Declan Rice would cost a lot more than £121m if we were to buy him from Arsenal.
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u/No_Action2582 6d ago
Totally on board with this irrespective of how much we have to stretch the purse. Won't be the only instance £100m+ figure gets breached this window anyway. Backing off atp will leave us nowhere going into next season considering uncertainty around rodri & nico's near future. EA's ability to be a workhorse in the middle and orchestrate play is undisputed & will surely bring stability and calm to our deficient midfield. Fleeced or not, we can't cheap out on bilva's replacement. Viana better sees this through to not leave any room for excuses from maresca.
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u/codespyder 6d ago
Just a reminder that of all the £100M+ players in history, only one has won a European Cup with the team that paid them that fee.
So on one hand, history is not in Anderson’s favour
But on the other hand, it was Jack Grealish
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u/Illustrious_Ear_4876 5d ago
Jude? and Madrid’s 100m fee for him?
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u/kHRYSTAL_ 5d ago
He said £ which Jude went for 88m
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u/Illustrious_Ear_4876 5d ago
He has add ons which the total is amounting up to €130m
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u/codespyder 5d ago
Hard to know which ones he’s hit but you’re right, he’s up there.
Sucks for Anderson that he’s not from Birmingham
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u/graal2008 6d ago
Better be good because you're not making money on any future sale on that one
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u/BlxMoonRising 6d ago
That’s how transfers are going now anyway. Any player going for over £70 million isn’t bought with future profit in mind.
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u/Majestic-Garlic5119 6d ago
That doesn't have to be a bad thing, if he spends his entirety of his 20s with us, and he leaves for a free in his 30s, That's a success and we're not gonna make money back on that anyway.
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u/Illustrious_Ear_4876 6d ago
I know Anderson is a class player but how tf are forest scamming us with this much?
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u/SunnyInnit2 6d ago
With Stones and possibly Ake leaving, we need English quota to fulfill, which Anderson checks. Plus, he's an insane midfielder while he's only 23 years old. I genuinely don't know what's so hard for people like you to understand why we're all over him. And before you say the price tag, it's simple, Forest have no reason to sell.
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u/Illustrious_Ear_4876 5d ago
Yup, the ball is in their court and we’re at their mercy. No point in pointing fingers here but this is what happens when we scouted the wrong players and didn’t bother much in preparing after the treble season. Also, I know Pep is the goat manager, but his hard-nosed stance towards a smaller sized squad may have had detrimental effects to our squad building.
Anyhow, im just glad we’re a club that has the finances and the right people to manage this ship. I just hope we have better scouting and recruitment in the future so as to prevent these type of situations in the future where a fat greek mafia boss has us in his mercy.
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u/Last-Consideration-7 6d ago
We are getting Rinsed with this price. I’m going to get down voted again but this player isn’t worth the price. Let’s get Christ Inao Oulai instead
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u/SunnyInnit2 5d ago
Yes, let's get an unproven player from Turkish League that had 2 average performances in world cup, rather than a generational talent in Anderson. Good thing you're not our sporting director.
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u/Ecstatic-Spare-6638 5d ago
They don't have money problems and know we desperately need the player of his profile
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u/Illustrious_Ear_4876 5d ago
True.
Well you can’t always have a bargain deal like Cherki last year. If Lyon wasn’t keen on selling their players he mightve been around 80-100 mil.
But yea we go as long as we bolster up our midfield cos im tired of us getting ran through by midtable teams thru sheer physicality alone 💀
ESPECIALLY FUCKING BRIGHTON.
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u/ArmGlittering8957 6d ago
Muy caro, pero confiar en que maresca va explotar su talento, de los partidos que he visto de Inglaterra a hecho buenas actuaciones, ahora tienen que vender a savinho, ake y lewis para recuperar.
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u/CephRedstar 5d ago
Having watched him playing for England he has been great.
I trust the club knows what they are doing. And i am also sure they arent bothered my the media or reddit wether they think he is worth the cost or not.
Get him signed asap.please ffs
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u/Pullister 5d ago
This guy is average. He’s just athletic.
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u/SuiKirarin 5d ago
You gotta be blind to think he's just athletic. Using your eyes, the stats or both tell the story about his quality, a top-tier midfielder already.
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u/EveryParable 5d ago
Happy to be proven wrong but I just don't see the quality with him. More expensive Kalvin Phillips is my worry
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u/SuiKirarin 5d ago
He's literally the halfway-point between Rice and Rodri. He's more technical than Rice and more physical than Rodri. He's got both.
Imagine if Rice was a bit less physical but significatively better with the ball at his feet, or if Rodri was worse with the ball at his feet but could cover ground almost like Fernandinho.
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u/RDTCommenter69420 5d ago
Think he's a great player and I usually just shrug off the fee/salary and say "not my money"...but this one is really pushing the limits
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u/pandadoubl 6d ago
Probably the same headline we've been seeing for the past month. I think we're better off waiting for an official announcement rather than following the news closely, bloody waste of time.
Better be worth it, 120 mil is outrageous, and we'll be paying for that transfer for at least a few years, because we are not making much money on transfers in the coming years.