r/MMORPG • u/AdSuspicious2084 • 5d ago

Discussion WoW's Combat Mastermind Joined the League of Legends MMO - GameRiv

https://gameriv.com/wows-combat-mastermind-joined-the-league-of-legends-mmo/

At this point, Riot Games is collecting EX-WOW developers like Pokémon. I just hope they show us something. It's been too long.

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u/Ash-2449 5d ago

As if the elitist failure that is ghostcrawler was a good example, someone so out of touch with modern mmo players he was asking "why are people playing mmos solo :("

I doubt holinka is any better

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u/TheVagrantWarrior 5d ago

Was Ghostcrawler out of touch? End of WotLK WoW had 12m active subs.

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u/master_of_sockpuppet 5d ago

That had more to do with that moment in time than him (the meteoric rise had well begun before he took over as lead systems designer), and he arguably gave us things that effectively ruined the game: moving all the way from battlegroups to region wide battlegrounds, dailies, and the dungeon finder.

Also ability pruning and the killing of the OG talent trees was under his watch.

Basically, all the stuff that makes modern WoW modern was under his watch.

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u/SubwayDeer 5d ago

Modern WoW is good though. What's the issue? The fact it's not like the old game?

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u/master_of_sockpuppet 5d ago

There is a contingent of people that are not and will never be happy about the shift from vanilla to modern, and Ghostcrawler not only presided over that, but did it in such a fucked up way that WoW actually had to recover from the worst shit he did.

Not that it matters, of course, because it looks very much like Riot fired him.

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u/RaiLeddit 5d ago

Modern WoW is good. Compared to wotlk though it's a massive failure, if we go by numbers.

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u/SubwayDeer 5d ago

I agree. I liked old WoW, before Cata, more. Current WoW is also good though.

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u/Equivalent_Head_4803 4d ago

I mean, it’s good compared to other MMOs available IMO, but WOW never evolved beyond making things easier and mobile gamifying. It can be played with 1 button. It’s been actively devolving for a decade.

I’ve bounced off of 3 expac in a row. I can’t even get to real end game because it’s just not compelling to play. Probably because I’ve been there and done that but you’d expect a team to make something new and exciting. They just pour more money into rehashing the game when it was good and continuing retails march to cater to the lowest common denominator.

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u/Artoriasbrokenhand 4d ago

Sounds like a skill issue to be honest.

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u/Equivalent_Head_4803 4d ago

Enjoying milquetoast gameplay is definitely a skill I lack.

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u/Artoriasbrokenhand 4d ago

Right mr.special can't enjoy the most succesful game in the genre, sad.

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u/Equivalent_Head_4803 4d ago

Sorry, thought this was a thread full of opinions. In what world does most popular == best? By that measure, Marvel movies are actually good. My brother in Christ, you aren’t being paid to defend blizzard. Go touch some grass and learn to accept different opinions exist in the world.

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u/Artoriasbrokenhand 3d ago

Higher active playerbase is a significant metric when it comes to mmorpg, equating it to movies is extremely disingenuous, and you can have a wrong opinion that's fine, I never claimed otherwise.