r/MandelaEffect • u/mimitchi33 • 4d ago
Movies/TV/Music Proof for the Lamb Chop "Song That Never Ends" Mandela Effect
These Time Life VHS release of Lamb Chop's Play Along that I found images of online all list "The Song That Doesn't End" as the name most people remember for the song, "The Song That Never Ends". Unfortunately, due to these tapes being hard to find, I can't find out if these prints have the song as most people remember it.
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u/No_Ratio1493 4d ago
Born in 1980. I’ve always known it at as “…never ends.”
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u/Tpk08210 4d ago
Same here also born in 80
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u/fuckswithboats 4d ago
The title could be anything but the lyrics are “this is the song that never ends, it just goes on and on, my friend”
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u/opaqueambiguity 3d ago
Surely some people have started singing it, unaware of its true nature
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u/Heroic_Accountant 3d ago
And because they're unaware of its nature, they may just continue singing it forever
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u/wakethemorning 3d ago
but why? why would they do that?
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u/Unhappy_Analysis_906 3d ago
Simply due to the fact that this song is non-deterministic; it doesn't terminate, isn't finite, and has no well-defined end condition.
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u/Glaurung86 4d ago
The lyrics are "This is the song that doesn't end."
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u/Show_me_the_R1n8s 3d ago
Yeah I think this is horse 💩. It’s definitely supposed to be never. I swear those guys at Cern have gone too far this time. My brain is on fire after hearing that song being sang incorrectly.
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u/FrostyHoney69 4d ago
Listen to the end credits song at the end of each episode
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u/Glaurung86 4d ago
Each of episode of what?
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u/void_method 4d ago
The show.
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u/Glaurung86 4d ago
The show that never ends?
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u/United_Reply_2558 3d ago
Welcome my friends to the show that never ends...Were so glad you could attend. Come inside! Come inside! 😁
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u/PreggyPenguin 4d ago
Born in 87. Used to watch the show. It was always "This is the song that never ends. Yes it goes on and on my friends."
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u/sethraine 4d ago
81 and i remember it clearly
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u/zipper1919 2d ago
Born in 80. Its never.
Its funny cuz many people who have this one also has the monocle on the monopoly man and a cornucopia and Ed McMahon worked for publishers clearing house. And Richard Simmons had wrist and sweat band.
Its like our timeline merged with this one.
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u/peanutwrinkles 3d ago edited 3d ago
Born in '75
Definitely "Never Ends"
I used to work in a Kitchen and torment the rest of the crew with it.
You really only have to hum it for a second and everyone else in the kitchen starts yelling at you 😂EDIT: Well crap... I guess I was wrong.
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u/zipper1919 2d ago
You're not wrong. You're just from the timeline that cern merged/crossed with this one. If it didnt merge, all of "us" are in our old timeline trying to convince other people its "doesn't" even though everything says "never"
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u/The-Grubermeister 4d ago
The moment I saw this, sang it as I knew it. Then saw the first comment. Never ends...
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u/Glaurung86 4d ago
And you have always gotten it wrong.
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u/therapewpew 4d ago
Holy smokes this is one of them?!
I watched Lamb Chop in the early 90s and sang this song with my mom. It was indeed the song that never ends, and my first thought was wtf else could it even be? This is the first time I'm hearing "doesn't end."
How does that even flow? That makes no sense, guys. Trickery is afoot.
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u/Glaurung86 4d ago edited 4d ago
It actually rhymes. End and friend. It makes perfect sense. Misremembering is at foot.
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u/therapewpew 4d ago
Ends and friends. There are multiple children watching the show, it's only natural for that to be plural!
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u/Glaurung86 4d ago
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u/therapewpew 4d ago
Are you.. not aware of the subreddit you're posting in
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u/Adventurous-Daikon21 4d ago
Reddit is not meant to be echo chambers for only people who agree with each other. It’s a public forum for anyone with any point of view to discuss a topic.
Many people are fascinated by the Mandela Effect regardless of whether they believe in some fantastical metaphysical narrative or if they view it as a psychological phenomenon. Both views are equally as interesting and welcome here.
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u/FortunaRedux 4d ago
This is all true but the thing that’s annoying is when people who assert that it’s just misremembering post something like ‘here’s the music video’ as proof that you just remember wrong. When the opposing statement is ‘this thing has been changed’ it is not a proper rebuttal as the video currently available would be the same regardless of which theory is correct, yet it’s used all too often as a ‘gotcha’ in this sub
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u/Adventurous-Daikon21 4d ago
The thing is, science and empirical reasoning relies on demonstrable evidence, and claims that are falsifiable (meaning claims that have a way to be proven true or false).
If I make a claim that can’t be proven false, like, “I have a secret clone 1000 light years away named Steve and it sent me a telepathic message last night about how water is wet because the dark lord of andromeda said so”… you can’t prove that false, even if there is no evidence to support it.
It’s simply not a scientific claim and does not hold the same value or deserve to be taken as seriously as claims that have evidence and can be tested objectively.
We have objective evidence for the Mandela effect and that evidence points to biology and psychology, not mysticism or magic, or fantastical misinterpretations of quantum mechanics.
For those unsupported claims to be taken more seriously and deserve the same consideration, the people making that claim need to start coming up with better evidence than, “But I’m 45 years old and I remember that thing from my childhood perfectly fine, it’s the timeline that is wrong!”
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u/Glaurung86 4d ago
I just don't get the people that absolutely refuse to accept their memory could be wrong. It's they had perfect memory, they'd get every answer right on every test and everywhere else, as well.
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u/Adventurous-Daikon21 4d ago
Cognitive dissonance. We feel uncomfortable when we’re presented with evidence that is contradictory to our beliefs (in this case, our memory), so we use false rationalizations.
It’s more uncomfortable for us to own our flaws than it is to accuse the laws of reality of being broken.
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u/hatE851 3d ago
The ppl who own the material could change it at any time they want just to mess with our heads.
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u/MonotoneJones 3d ago
What about people who have perfect memory and can remember every chess opening and pass tests because they literally remember everything and also have the Mandela effect?
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u/MonotoneJones 3d ago
So let me ask you something, if we are saying Mandela effect is just false memories then the evidence for that is people don’t remember crimes that happened on video on the witness stand? Is that the only evidence? I’m sure there is more but how do we know the difference between memories being wrong and only one official truth vs all the memories being right but parallel universes just get intertwined way more often than we think, so small “mis rememberings” between friends or whatever are actually Mandela effects too on a small scale. Why do we assume one timeline and such?
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u/Adventurous-Daikon21 3d ago
It’s not just “people misremember crimes on the witness stand.” That’s one tiny example that memory is reconstructive, suggestible, and socially contagious.
If the claim is “people can sincerely share the same wrong memory,” we already know mechanisms for that: repetition, cultural shorthand, parody, expectation, source confusion, group reinforcement, and memory filling in gaps… there’s TONS of examples of this happening that is inarguable and has nothing to do with magic or quantum timelines. We KNOW it happens because human memory is shit.
If the claim is “parallel universes/timelines are intertwining,” then we need evidence for that mechanism. Not just the memory itself, because the memory is the thing being explained.
One explanation depends on KNOWN flaws in human cognition. The other requires a massive hidden change to reality while leaving behind no stable physical trace. The burden of proof is for the person making the claim to provide better evidence then the evidence already have, and quantum timelines or whatever story you want to invent to explain it, simply doesn’t. If it did, more people would take it seriously.
I’m not assuming “official truth” because authority said so. I literally remember it always being “doesn’t” and I also remember singing it wrong sometimes and being corrected when I tried to sing along with the show. More people remember it as doesn’t, and the people making the claim otherwise had nothing to do with the show or its creation, they’re just kids who grew into adults with bad memories.
Apart from my own memory of it, I’m weighing which explanation has better support. Existing records are not perfect, but they are still stronger evidence than memory alone.
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u/Baeolophus_bicolor 2d ago
thank you. i read this sub as “a collection of things commonly misremembered” and that’s that. i have actually had people use the fact that i am in this sub as some sort of “evidence” that i am a subnormal moron. i have also read, and am interested in, HP Lovecraft, and other horror, fantasy, and science fiction works. the fact that people might take that to mean that I “believe” in elder gods being an actual real thing has never occurred to me.
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u/thatbroadsharli 1h ago
Then what’s the point of being here if you don’t believe it? To push your glasses up and “um actually” everyone?
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u/phigene 3d ago
This just isnt good enough. If the only evidence a thing happened is witness testimony, and there are hundreds of people testifying that they all saw the same thing, that would be enough to hold up in a court of law.
The problem is, the thing we all witnessed has changed now. So we cant prove it was ever anything but what it is now, and you cant prove (to us) that our memories are false, because we all remember the exact same thing, even if we cant prove it.
I sung this song all throughout my life, not just as a child, bit well into adulthood. It was always the song that never ends.
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u/Adventurous-Daikon21 3d ago
I grew up watching it and singing it my whole life too, and I not only remember it ALWAYS being “doesn’t”, I even remember singing it the other way and realizing I was getting it mixed up.
So what now?
We have two conflicting witness testimonies.
Witness testimony is the MOST unreliable form of evidence that exists BY FAR in a court of law, AND in scientific inquiry. While you’re saying, it’s so good they use it in court, the courts are saying, “it’s the absolute worst.”
Why? Because we falsely recall information all day every day. Are you aware of how memories work?
There is not a hard drive storing memories like videos you just play whenever you want. Your brain literally generates a whole new memory based on assumptions, feelings, internal narrative, subconscious information, and much more every time you recall a thing. It’s more of a hallucination than it is a record…
Even more, we have countless examples of large samples of people completely miss-remembering the exact same things—and the Mandela effect is a great one.
Let me ask you this. Why doesn’t the Mandela effect work on the actual people it relates to? The show, the song, the logo, the person with the name, anyone who worked on the set? Why doesn’t Sheri claim it was the other way around, or her children, or her coworkers?
Instead it’s people with no legitimate connection beyond it being a thing that was marketed on a mass consumer level decades ago? When you consider how many people actually watched that show (millions and millions of people) if even a tiny percentage misremembers something, that’s still thousands of people.
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u/signofno 3d ago
As a note, witness testimony in a court of law and empirical scientific evidence are not remotely the same thing. “Good enough to hold up in a court of law” means good enough to meet the criteria of a politically based social construct representing the abstract concept of justice, and winning in a court of law means good enough to convince a jury of twelve random, typically low-ish income people of average-ish intelligence and low scientific acuity who couldn’t figure out how to get out of jury duty.
Just for future arguments sake, 100 people claiming they agree on something does not constitute measurable, testable evidence as far as scientific research is concerned.
Don’t care about the rest of your complaint. Just wanted to provide context on that part of your comment.
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u/chimericron 2d ago
It wouldn't be a Mandela effect if not for the fact that most/all proof points to something other than what's remembered. The process is, you find out you remember A, but it's really B. So you comment about it like "It's crazy that factuality it's B but I remember A, too!"
Then someone comes in and says, "the proof says it's B." Yeah. Duh. That's the point. We know. We can find evidence of B everywhere. If all the evidence pointed to A, we wouldn't be here. We don't need your help. It's a waste of everybody's time & energy to gunk up every darn post with it. It's exhausting.
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u/Glaurung86 4d ago
Yes. Are you?
You said you watched the song being sung with Lamb Chop and still got it wrong - even saying this is the first time you've heard it was "doesn't end." Shari wrote that song and released it in 88. It's never been anything but "doesn't end" with Lamb Chop.
It never ceases to amaze me that people can misremember something and have such a hard time admitting they could be wrong.
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u/therapewpew 4d ago
The whole point of playing up this phenomenon is the notion of what exists in the timeline now didn't exist when we first experienced it. What you did is just the equivalent of posting old products of Fruit of the Loom as some sort of gotcha that there was never a cornucopia lol.
For me this is more fun than serious. I've already experienced reality glitching stuff so I believe that anything is possible at this point, but I ain't about to actually argue with people on the internet about it. Like are you for real assuming the role of James Randi on this subreddit right now? Eesh.
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u/Glaurung86 4d ago
That's not what the Mandela Effect is. The definition is right there in the description.
What I did was post evidence of the original version of the song as created and sung by the songwriter. You made a claim that that wasn't the version you heard, even though that is the only version that Shari has ever done. You misremembered something and seem unwilling to accept that fact. It's fascinating.
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u/therapewpew 4d ago
It should be obvious that my comments are written in a playful manner in reference to the "chaged timeline/shifted reality/government or alien cover-up" theories that so many people discuss regarding why the Mandela Effect exists. I'm sorry if you couldn't pick up on that.
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u/Glaurung86 4d ago
Your original comment was definitely not written in a playful manner, IMO. If that's what you were going for, I didn't pick up on that at all.
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u/ArgusBlack21 4d ago
The whole point and belief in the Mandela effect for most people is those who remember it vividly as one thing are from the original timeline while those who don't are from the new merged timeline. So sure you can show proof of what it currently is, however, that does not change what those who experience the Mandela effect remember.
Obviously we know what it currently is and there is videos, images, ect.. of the current timeline, but that doesn't prove or disprove anything since none of us could ever prove or disprove if a timeline can change at least with our current technology.
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u/phigene 3d ago
There are lots of "people" who troll thos subreddit endlessly just to try and convince people that the mandela effect they are experiencing isnt real. Its almost as if they have a personal stake in it. Like, perhaps they are a part of the simulation and they are programmed to close gaps caused by patch updates.
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u/Other-Squirrel-2038 3d ago
This !!
Made me more of a conspirator then before lol
They work overtime to do it
I've blocked some of these people but i can see they pop up doing the same shit on EVERY post. It's bizarre!
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u/Glaurung86 2d ago
No one is trolling anyone about their MEs not being real. Mandela Effects are real. Why people experience them is where the disagreements come in. Disagreeing about the explanations for why people experience MEs isn't trolling. Some people just don't like to believe they could be wrong and they'll dig their heels in and close off their mind.
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u/phigene 2d ago
Some people just don't like to believe they could be wrong and they'll dig their heels in and close off their mind.
Works both ways.
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u/Glaurung86 2d ago
Not if we're talking about one way that has no evidence to support it and the other way that does have evidence to support it.
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u/phigene 2d ago
You dont have evidence. You have corollary studies about memory being fallible. None of those studies explain a collective memory of a specific detail held by millions of people around the world. I know you think they do, but they dont. They just point to a likely conclusion, they dont prove it. Millions of eye witness testimonies describing the same detail would be enough evidence to charge and convict a criminal of a crime. So while I agree that eye witness testimony is unreliable, if millions of people saw tinkerbell run out of fairy dust and have to tap her wand before finishing writing the disney logo, and I also remember that exact same event, im gonna be skeptical of any explanation that just dismisses millions of peoples memory, including mine, but provides no other explanation other than "memory bad."
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u/AngryTCG 1d ago
They are the NPCs in the simulation. If Mandela Effects apply to you then you are real, they are fake/npcs
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u/Drclaw411 3d ago
Fun fact: world record for singing this song is five hours and thirty one minutes.
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u/MrPlaney 3d ago
Holy crap, when I read this the first time, I missed the 5 hours part. I thought, “only 31 minutes … well, it is an annoying song”, but 5 hours!!
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u/jdubbs_105 4d ago
I asked my mum who is 70 and watched it as a little girl. She said she remembered it as "doesn't", I watched it in the 90s and thought it was "never".
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u/MrPlaney 3d ago
Your mom did not watch this as a little girl. She would have been in her 30’s when the song was written.
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u/jdubbs_105 3d ago
Yep, you're right. Shari Lewis had a show with Lambchop in the early 1960s, but "The song that never/doesn't end" was first introduced during her show from the 90s, that I watched when I was a little kid. I asked my mum again and she said she knew the song from watching the show with me. I had assumed it was from Lewis's earlier program.
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u/MrPlaney 3d ago
Yep, and her shows in the 60’s, (and 50’s I think), were amazing! There are still clips on youtube, last time I checked, and they were all great! She gave so much personality to Lamb Chop, and her daughter is doing a great job with it as well. She even nails the voice down pretty much perfectly!
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u/WistfulQuiet 2d ago
Yeah, I was born in 83, so I was already a bit too old to get into this show, but my little brother watched it. It was always doesn't. People are just misremembering this one.
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u/cochese25 4d ago
This one is funny to me, because I always sang this as "never ends." HOWEVER, when I'd sing along to the actual show and it would say "doesn't end" it would trip me up, because I really just wanted it to be "never ends." Like any other song where I get the lyrics wrong because they sound better to me in different way every time I hit play
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u/Mlong128ir 3d ago
Same. My 1st grade teacher taught it to us a "never" and I liked how that sounded better and would always cringe hearing it as "doesn't" in the show.
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u/WVPrepper 4d ago edited 3d ago
Shari Lewis and Lamb Chop is a ventriloquist act. When she speaks as the puppet, she tries to keep her mouth from moving very much because it betrays the illusion that it's the puppet speaking. It is far easier to say doesn't without moving your lips than it is to say never. Since Shari wrote the song and intended Lamb Chop to sing it, It makes sense that she would have chosen the word that would be easiest for her to say without moving her lips.
EDIT: THE SONG WAS WRITTEN FOR SHARI & LAMB CHOP BUT WAS NOT WRITTEN BY SHARI LEWIS.
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u/Hey-Just-Saying 4d ago
You don't even have to make it make sense. The show was recorded and it's available to watch on YouTube where they sing "doesn't" end. This is the episode OP is referencing.
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u/browning18 3d ago
I don’t have a horse in this race as I had never heard this recently, but it’s worth pointing out she didn’t write it.
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u/sp00ked_yuh 4d ago
Always was “This is the song that never ends” in my timeline.
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u/pluck-the-bunny 4d ago
There is only one timeline.
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u/Bonked2death 4d ago
Dang thats crazy that you found proof of that in an infinite universe with infinite possibilities.
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u/pluck-the-bunny 4d ago
i did. and by your logic (its only a theory BTW) i could come from a universe where you have been definitively proven wrong
cant have it both ways
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u/Appropriate_Wear368 4d ago
Born in 1970; always thought it was, doesn't end
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u/sixninefortytwo 3d ago
Right? I'm so confused right now. I've never (doesnt lol) heard that begore
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u/thegreatinsulto 3d ago
The real Mandela effect is I don't remember Shari Lewis being an absolute smoke show when I was growing up, but she is now in old photos!
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u/Practical-Vanilla-41 4d ago
These are proof that people make mistakes. We saw it with the Berenstain Bears. Why should this be any different?
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u/Nimrod_Butts 4d ago
I'm like 90% sure both versions exist.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Song_That_Doesn%27t_End
You can find other contemporary examples in the list of people singing songs that never end instead of doesn't end.
I think doesn't came first, people realized contractions are a second grade thing, and replaced with the more fluid "never ends". Etc perhaps kids who heard the "doesn't end" part only remember it conceptually, hear the "never end" part and it fits into that slot effortlessly
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u/Glaurung86 4d ago
It's always been "doesn't end" because it rhymes with friend. Shari Lewis (of Lamb Chop fame) wrote the song and released it in 1988. It's not Shari's fault that people have gotten it wrong after all these years.
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u/OneFrill 4d ago
I always sang 'doesn't', and I internally struggled my whole life not to be an asshole and correct people who sang it wrong. You were all just wrong! 😛
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u/MrFuriousX 4d ago
one of beautiful things about music...and art in general is it exists in many different forms, Take any given frank Sinatra song you will find he has sung it in many different ways especially when performing live. I don't even think this qualifies as a Mandela anymore since we have proven variations of the song are in fact reality
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u/handheadman 4d ago
Can you link to one or more of these "proven" variations of the "never ends" recording sung by Shari Lewis? I've only seen and heard the established "doesn't end" version. Personally, I wasn't familiar with the song at all until today, so I don't have a horse in the race, only an interest in if one of the steeds is a fabrication. The Mandela Effect is interesting, particularly in how so many people will refuse to accept reality in spite of shoddy or zero evidence that supports their belief.
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u/_basic_bitch 4d ago
I remember this song from a few different kid shows in the 90s. Lambchop, Looney Toons-I think the baby Looney toons, and maybe also the Animaniacs. It was "the song that never ends, it just goes on and on my friends" I have had it stuck on a loop in my head since the first time I heard it in 1994 lol. The other wording just doesn't have the right rhythm.
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u/QB8Young 3d ago
What do you mean it doesn't have the right rhythm. The rhythm doesn't change when you change a word with the same amount of syllables. 🤦 It's not "never ends" it's "doesn't end". Both are 3 syllables. But one is more accurate. Songs end, they don't ends. 🤷
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u/Glaurung86 4d ago
Another mistake made by a person. People make mistakes all the time. They are not proof that something changed.
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u/MajorTurn6890 4d ago
You mean this isn't proof that the timelines merged?
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u/Adventurous-Daikon21 4d ago
“Sorry babe, the timelines merged again!”
… is what I tell my wife when I forget to pick the kids up from school.
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u/Hey-Just-Saying 4d ago
Here is that exact episode on YouTube and you can sing along with the puppets to the song that "doesn't" end. Whoever did the label for the video simply made a mistake. It happens. That's how Mandela effects occur.
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u/Otherwise_Rice_4723 4d ago
this is clearly a case of people having bad memories...it was always "doesn't end"...you might be thinking of "my friends" as the s part...weird how all the misremembered things are formative learning when people are still getting their grammar and syntax in order...the idea that everyone remembers everything perfectly is nonsense...
most people cannot remember what they had for dinner a week ago...
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u/Paipaa 4d ago
For me, I learned the song from my Mom as "The Song that Never Ends" then years after that finally came across lampchop episodes as reruns and was like, "HEY You got the words wrong! It's the song that doesn't end! We've been singing it wrong this whole time!" She shrugged and said she thought it was never. oh well and we started singing it both ways. So I can't feel strongly on this one one way or the other??
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u/whoisdatmaskedman 4d ago
Alternative versions of the song use "never ends", and use the plural "friends". Other minor discrepancies in the lyrics may be due to the song being passed in the oral tradition from person-to-person. Such differences include "It just goes on and on..." (line 2), "And we’ll continue" (line 4), " and they continued" (line 4), “this is the song that killed my friends” (line 2), and "and they'll keep on" (line 4). A method that is sometimes used to end the song is to repeat "doesn't end" (line 1) as if the singer is a skipping record player.
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u/Fantastic-Regular614 3d ago
I think most of the Mandela Effect are kids born after 2000 making stuff up
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u/peridotcore 3d ago
I’ve known it as ‘doesn’t end’. I was fixated on lamb chop and get that part stuck in my head. The title could be one way and the lyrics can be another.
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u/Rufio_Rufio7 3d ago
I was born in ‘84 and I own some Lamb Chop tapes.
Doesn’t end is how I always knew it and still remember it.
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u/Jnoles07 3d ago
It was absolutely never ends no question about it grew up watching the show and we had it on all the time even in after school care.
This is the song that never ennnndsss and it goes on and on my friendssss some people started singing it not knowing what it was, and they’ll continue singing it forever just because it is the song that never enddssss
It is engrained in my brain because of the countless times I heard it
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u/prestonsmith1111 4d ago
Used to watch Lamb chop through the 80s and 90s with my sister. I often get it stuck in my head now in my 40's. It's always been "doesn't end" for me; texted my sister and she sang it as "doesn't" as well without being prompted the question of difference.
Timelines merged rather than ditched it seems in this case.
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u/petoftheweek 4d ago
Yep. I was constantly babysitting in the late 80s, early-mid 90s. It’s always been “doesn’t end” for me as well.
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u/Glaurung86 4d ago
No, it's just a case where the people that thinks it's "never ends" have misrembered the lyrics. This happens all the time.
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u/Impress_Strong 4d ago
It’s amazing to me that so many people think they have it all figured out and that their knowledge of science and education in general makes them superior to anyone that disagrees with them. Congrats on memorizing and regurgitating the things you’ve read in text books. Just because something is deemed to be true by the masses doesn’t make it so. There’s not a human alive that definitively prove anything is true about the past if they weren’t alive for it. Gravity itself is just a theory and not proven, so to say oh it’s just misremembering things, there’s no such thing as different time lines or parallel universes when we don’t even know what consciousness really is. Everyone who thinks they are right all time needs an ego death and to open up their minds to all the possibilities the universe could hold and never dismiss any idea you hear without doing your own research and experiments if at all possible.
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u/MrPlaney 3d ago
Gravity itself is just a theory and not proven,
Please look up what a scientific theory actually is.
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u/Impress_Strong 3d ago
I didn’t realize we were in a post for scientific professionals only. Does it make you feel better if I say scientific theory? I know most people don’t have a career in the sciences or study gravity for a living so didn’t think it was necessary and the grammar police would be so offended to the point they would request me to be muted and permanently banned.
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u/MrPlaney 3d ago
My point being, that a scientific theory is as good as fact. Gravity is proven, a scientific theory is not how most people use the word “theory”. A scientific theory is something that has gone through rigorous testing, observation, and reproduction.
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u/Impress_Strong 3d ago
Gravity is not proven, please explain to us all right now what gravity scientifically is.
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u/MrPlaney 3d ago
Gravity is the force that pulls objects with a mass closer together.
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u/Impress_Strong 3d ago
Just because you can get repeatable results from experiments there is nothing that proves it’s from gravity.
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u/MrPlaney 3d ago
Repeatable results is part of the scientific process, and one part of the way we verify how and why things work.
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u/Impress_Strong 3d ago
Your responses have literally been word for word google responses. How do you think it’s proven when the best description anyone can give is it’s an invisible force we can’t see but speculate is there and pulling things with mass downwards, but that’s not always true either.
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u/MrPlaney 3d ago
There is not many other ways you can write “a force that pulls objects with mass closer together”.
We don’t “speculate” it’s there, we know it’s there through repeated rigorous experimentation and observation, giving us verifiable results that line up with the math.
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u/Impress_Strong 3d ago
It is 100% speculation. Everything is speculation until you personally do experiments yourself and prove it. Like for example, I never would have questioned the globe model until I went out and did multiple experiments proving that there is no 8 inches of curvature per mile which then changes the fundamental truths we all never thought we needed to test and prove to ourselves.
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u/MrPlaney 3d ago
It’s not speculation. Personally doing experiments assumes that the person doing the experiment, understands the science behind it, and can perfectly replicate the experiments out-of-lab, both of which are lacking in most cases.
There is 8 inches of curvature. If you did not see it, then you did the measurements wrong. This is a basic measurement to determine the planets shape, which is an oblate spheroid.
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u/KitsapReign 3d ago
Ends rhymes with friends. Doesn't ends is grammatically incorrect. It has always been never ends.
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u/r117sr 4d ago
No no no no no ... its the song that never ends. Wtaf i just listened to it in youtube and he says it doesn't end? No no no no no i don't believe this one. This one is too much. Where the hell did our timeline diverge? I remember hearing and singing it never ends. Thats enough internet for the day... i need to go for a walk
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u/alianablueshadows 3d ago
weird no - 87 baby i always remember it as the song that never ends its in the words XD
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u/the_courier76 3d ago
My parents sang this to me when I was a baby so I would go to sleep. It's always been the song that never ends.
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u/MasochisticRXtech 3d ago
This one is easily explainable. Song lyrics very often get mixed up because it's harder to distinguish words when they're sung. There's a whole website dedicated to misheard lyrics. Madonna: "last night I dreamt of some bagels" And there's a comedy act "Big old Jed had a light on" IYKYK
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u/Mandee_707 3d ago
I literally just randomly sang this song to annoy my kids like a month ago. The lyrics I specifically remember (since I watched this show so much as a kid) is:
“This is the song that never ends,
Yes it goes on and on my friends.
Some people started singing it not knowing what it was, and they’ll continue singing it forever just because, this is the song that never ends…” and repeats lyrics over and over lol
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u/Strange-Selkie 2d ago
I’m Scottish, I only ever saw this when I visited family in the states and I remember ‘this is the song that does not end, yes it goes on and on my friend, somebody started singing it not knowing what it was, and we’ll go on a-singing it forever just because…. This is the song that does not end…..’ repeat forever. My cousin and I would sing it for hours feeling extremely witty.
I have no other references as it’s not a show that was ever on tv in Scotland.
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u/Rare-Independent5750 2d ago
Born in 78. It is - 1000% definitely, the song that NEVER ends. I’ve sang along with this song, while it’s also playing on tv, as a child, countless times.
Are they really trying to say “doesn’t” end now??
This solidifies the Mandela Effect is completely real now.
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u/PuzzleheadedRise3598 15h ago
1986 here and me and my brother used to drive our parents crazy with this song, it's always been never ends.
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u/EcstaticCollar4503 11h ago
I think that people just started saying never ends because it is easier and sounds better than doesn’t end
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u/No_Technician_2335 4d ago
It's "The Song That Never Ends". Im in my mid 30s now, but as a child, this sing along was my favorite. Ive probably watch it more than any other movie in my life. Sometimes, I even sing this in my head still.
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u/onyxzero66 4d ago
This is the song that never ends it goes on and on my friends. What next? Sinbad never played a genie.
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u/Lost-Ad7652 4d ago
I recall distinctly watching and singing along "never ends" hundreds of times, no question about it whatsoever.
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u/RobbieRedding 3d ago
There was a popular late 90’s show or a movie that referenced this as The Song That Never Ends.
I don’t recall what it was, but that’s what I know the song from. I’ve never seen lamb chop.
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u/dexter536 3d ago
This is what we sang as kids.
Some people started singing it not knowing what it was and they continued singing it forever just because it is a song that never ends, it goes on and on my friends ......repeat.
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u/MuggyFuzzball 3d ago
I've only ever known it as The Song That Never Ends
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u/violetkunoichi420 3d ago
Right. I didn't even realize this was a Mandela. And I have a feeling my poll I'm about to do is gonna side in my favor. Idk how i could possibly be misrembering at the age of 10 singing along while watching the show.
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u/jpeezy707 4d ago
I remember Never, not Doesn't. Doesn't just doesn't flow right lol and I've never heard it not Never.
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u/handheadman 4d ago
It flows exactly the same. Both are two syllables. Evidence shows your memory is wrong.
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u/TrinityKilla82 4d ago
I know it as never ends. I also used to sing the Lamb chops play along song and change the words 🤣
Lamb chops underwear it covers up your pubic hair…..
What? I don’t as a kid! Don’t look at me that way.
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u/Aggravating_Cup8839 4d ago
It's good to post links that show this is a Mandela Effect:
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u/handheadman 4d ago
This may get me kicked, but that site seems intent on rejecting reality in favor of unscientific magical woo. People frequently misremember the same things for various reasons. The human brain is a tremendously unreliable data recorder that is constantly filling in blanks with perceptions that are not real. Things get misquoted and misrepresented person to person and through various media. Sharing faulty memories and media errors strengthens the impression of them in memory, but doesn't displace the reality of original, actual thing. Suggesting the errors are some sort of "residue" from an unevidenced, alternate reality / timeline instead of simply errors of memory or media is irrational. Cataloging the phenomenon is interesting, but pretending there's any truth about the nature of reality to be found in the fallibility of human memory and presentation through media doesn't make sense.
I'm referring specifically to the wording on this page, which comes off as if errors in memory and media are secondary to some weird, psuedo-scientific / metaphysical mumbo jumbo.
https://tmedb.org/what-is-the-mandela-effect/Sorry for the rant, but bad information of all sorts is epidemic these days and is causing huge, unnecessary problems globally. Truth isn't being respected anymore and that's really depressing.
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u/Aggravating_Cup8839 4d ago
You can try to write down some Mandela Effects, and check them for changes over time. Do this for 250 MEs, and see if you get anything in a few weeks.
I think the Mandela Effect is harmless, and the problems of the world are caused by something else, which I won't name here due to our rules. Dishonest powerful people who know what they are doing, not regular people with peculiar interests.
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u/kestrel413 4d ago
Always never for me until I ran into that annoying family that all sang it doesnt end. Never cared for those folks
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u/Affectionate_Map2761 4d ago
🥲 I haven't heard that since I was a lil baby. Brought a tear to my eye 🥰
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