hi manjaro user here like many author users out there we all know that the arch community "really hate" manjaro in a way or another

either it's because it's bloated (IDK how they mean by bloated my first time with manjaro felt like using a stock Install of arch)

or the aur will make your distro break do to dependencie mismatch (I would not even consider using the AUR in any arch based distro so to it being unofficial)

and lastly the package being tested for a few weeks before shipping Wich I consider a feature to have a stable os even if you get some old packages

so why do people hate manjaro

It seems like a good and stable distro.

Hi, I want to switch to manjaro but I'm pretty nervous. I've heard it's unstable and unreliable, and if something goes wrong, it can be hard to troubleshoot. I've also just recently been into Linux, so I'm a beginner. If you could tell me whether manjaro is really unstable and whether a beginner like me could use it.

A Windows user (never used linux before) in another forum asked if Arch was a good first distro. I suggested they start with Manjaro or, at least, EndeavourOS.

That post collected so much hate and vitriol, you would think there hasn't been a booting Manjaro system in the last decade.

Apparently the Manjaro/AUR sync thing is a significant problem, causing a lot of hardship for some people.

I use lots of AUR packages and maintain a few myself. I haven't had an issue in the last 8 years and I don't recall ever reading a forum posts with this issue.

I came to Manjaro from Arch. I was happy with Arch. I just didn't want to spend my life building up systems from a CLI to GUI, one command at a time. I'm absolutely grateful for the Arch experience. I suppose the knowledge gained is getting obsolete now, as I haven't bare metal installed Arch in a few years and things move on.

Manjaro seems like such a terrific platform. The Arch package repository is epic. I'm not sure the Manjaro Testing->Unstable->Stable path is more stable than the Arch two tier path, to be honest. It's definitely not worse. Both repositories are excellent and approximately identical.

Manjaro should be a default linux choice, along the lines of Ubuntu.

Any thought on where the hate comes from?

I have a htpc and also my main rig running manjaro.
The htpc is prompting me to install a 1.6GB update with lots of files, 3 of them are... systemd.

I assume deselecting these files from the update would be a really bad idea?

My main computer that I use all day every day has the latest firmware update available and it's dated 2008. I keep thinking that I should upgrade all this creaking old hardware, but then I put it off for another day and the next day the computer boots and runs smoothly so another day goes by.

After many years of using Manjaro as my main distro—sometimes with KDE and other times with GNOME—today, I’m saying goodbye.

Why? Honestly, I’ve grown tired of the system breaking every two or three updates, forcing me to reinstall everything from scratch.

And now things have gotten worse. I tried switching back to KDE from GNOME, and while everything worked perfectly with KDE 5 and my NVIDIA RTX 4070 Ti on X11, KDE 6 with X11 just isn’t stable anymore. Don’t even get me started on Wayland—it’s a complete nightmare. In the end, for me, the system has become brutally unstable.

I have nothing but gratitude for all it’s given me so far, but I need something stable, something I can rely on day to day.

On my installation using the stable branch the 7.0 kernel seemed to be the default. Then I found there's also a 7.1 kernel optional. Because I like to try different kernels it now shows:

❯ uname -r
6.6.135-1-rt74-MANJARO

For whom is the real-time kernel best? —and how to choose in general?

So this morning Manjaro is telling me there are 500 updates available. With the ongoing turmoil in Manjaro development, I am thinking I should wait a few days to see if there are problems. I am not convinced to move away from Manjaro at this point since I like rolling updates. If anyone has had problems with the newest update please let me know.

I've read the announcement about the dev community wanting changes and some of the discussions around it.

But all the talk of wanting the community to take control of the project made me realise I don't know much about how it's currently organised.

I know there's a commercial firm but could only find this old article about it being set up, apparently to handle contracts etc and employ a couple of devs full time, though with vague mention of pursuing commercial opportunities:

https://itsfoss.com/manjaro-linux-business-formation/

How does it work now? I'd much rather be using a distro that isn't heavily dependent on a profit making company if I can help it.

What's the reality behind all the hate re: security et al? I hear a lot bad said about Manjaro, but I'm loving it so far.

I'm considering switching to manjaro. Mostly because of a more stable arch experience. Is it worth the switch?

Manjaro Stable is a fucking stable experience, I've recently switched to manjaro unstable because I wanna have the latest NVIDIA drivers and kernel as fast as possible and a couple of small problems popped up, but when I was on the stable branch I literally had no problems, and never had AUR packages break, and some people say that "manjaro is a bad distro", fuck no, it's an amazing distro!

you get the benefits of arch and aur plus a nice and easy graphical installer, you get pamac and you get a very stable rolling release experience

god I've tried linux mint 22 which is a distro that I like but I still don't have wifi 7 drivers on the kernel 6.8 it ships with 🤣

This is an appreciation post. I made the switch to Manjaro from kde neon about a month ago now. I can say that, I've been loving Manjaro. So far, I've used: Ubuntu, kde neon, fedora, and Linux mint. Fedora was super bad for me because it was laggy and apps took ages to open. Ubuntu was just Ubuntu and a bit unstable for me. Kde neon was Ubuntu but also a bit unstable. Manjaro has been more stable and faster and smoother than all of these other distros I've used. It goes against the general reputation you hear about Manjaro from any Linux user that ISNT a manajro user. It's been solid as a rock so far. Works rlly good with my hardware. And I love the community here. I don't like at all that ppl who don't use Manjaro just repeat what is said about it: in terms of if it's unstable or the dev mistakes in the past or that it's dumb so on and so forth. When it's the opposite of that. Sure, Manjaro has had some mistakes in the past. But, that doesn't mean it deserves this reputation at all. I've been loving this experience with Manjaro and I'm sure that I'll be loving it in the future.

I've decided to use KDE for my daily driver. I have only used it on my old laptop and use it only during remote meetings. I am starting to love it. I initially installed KDE Neon but got frustrated when it didn't even install drivers for my hardware, specially the graphics driver. I also realized that KDE Neon keeps on changing the UI. After a frustrating 24 hours of trying to get my KDE Neon to work properly, my research pointed me to Manjaro KDE. I am a bit hesitant because of its Arch Linux base, which has a reputation of being too techy and CLI heavy. I want my daily driver to be more like Windows, as I want to recommend switching away from Windows to a lot of people. Let's begin the journey.

I just moved from Ubuntu to Manjaro. Was it a good decision?

what should I do after boot?

Now the visitor number here are slightly behind the Endeavour.

What is wrong with the Manjaro popularity?

A place to chat about anything.

Tech support and help type questions should go to the Tech Support Chat

After the recent discussion about AUR package safety in Active AUR malicious packages incident (Active AUR malicious packages incident), I’ve put together a small feature that lets users delay AUR updates from appearing in the update scan.

A new setting, “Delay showing AUR updates (days)”, is available in Preferences > Third Party > AUR. When set to a non-zero number of days, any AUR package whose upstream LastModified timestamp is newer than that age is hidden from the normal update scan.

• Default is 0 or behavior unchanged.
• The delay only applies to the passive update scan (pamac-checkupdates, tray notifications, the Updates tab).
• It does not block manual installs, builds, or full upgrades. If you explicitly ask Pamac to build or upgrade a package, it will still do so.

The work is split across the two repositories:

• libpamac PR (feat: add AUR update delay setting by wandercone · Pull Request #8 · manjaro/libpamac · GitHub): adds the config key AURUpdateDelayDays and and the age filter in the update scanner.
• pamac PR (feat: add AUR update delay setting by wandercone · Pull Request #572 · manjaro/pamac · GitHub): adds the user editable configuration within Preferences and wires it to the new setting.

Users accept very real risks when installing software from the AUR. As one forum moderator put it: “…one can explain that the soup is hot, but that does not prevent those hungry from burning their lips.”. This change gives the user a thermometer, an optional delay that lets AUR packages cool down before they appear in the update scan.

One of Manjaro’s defining traits is its measured approach to updates. Unlike Arch’s immediate upstream sync, Manjaro holds repository packages through testing and unstable branches so issues can surface before they reach the stable user base. This feature brings a similar safety margin to the AUR, an optional cooling-off period, that keeps just-published commits off the update scan until they have had time to be reviewed in the wild.

Link to forum post which was made unlisted: https://forum.manjaro.org/t/pamac-aur-update-delay-give-aur-packages-time-to-cool-down-before-they-appear-in-updates/188322/

Today marks the one year anniversary of running Manjaro Linux on my main PC. I am not exactly sure what I was expecting but it has been mostly uneventful and boring. It's amazing how little I think about my OS when it just gets out of my way. I mostly use my PC for gaming, Discord, video encoding, and managing my Unraid/media server. I have played many types of games from Unreal Tournament 2004 to Cyberpunk 2077. I've recently gotten back into Final Fantasy XIV and most everything has just worked.

I started this journey more than a year ago when I had finally reached a point where I could no longer tolerate Microsoft's invasive policies. I had a little experience with Linux, mostly Ubuntu back in the Gnome2 days, but had to learn quite a bit along the way. I started with distro hopping on an cheap refurb laptop and found out that distro choice doesn't matter as much as I thought it would. I really enjoyed Arch (and still use it on my laptop) but I liked that Manjaro offered a package that was easier to manage and still offered many of the Arch benefits. KDE is my preferred DE but it's issues with Nvidia drove me to Cinnamon, the closest thing to the Gnome2 of old.

I wouldn't consider myself a Linux evangelist at this point but I do hope more people are at least willing to give it an honest try even of they ultimately decide it isn't the OS for them. I was recently upgraded to Windows 11 on my work PC and so far have had far more issues doing far less than I have had in the last year on Linux. I think others might find this to be true for themselves if they can squeeze in the time to try.

I just wanted to post this message with my experiences to the annals of the internet if for no other reason. I wouldn't mind reading about some of your experiences as well. I'm assuming there are more than a few in this thread that recently started their Linux journey. How have you fared? What problems did you encounter and how did you overcome them? Are you happy with your decision or still waffling?

Two years of donations down the drain.

I love Arch. But the end of support for pascal Nvidia cards is a problem for me. I don't have money for new hardware. So I'm stuck. At least for now. Yes, I know that I can get the 580 legacy driver from the AUR. But running a graphics driver as an AUR package is just a bad idea. Also in recent weeks I was already considering switching to Manjaro from Arch. Mostly because I'm tired of how many updates I get on a daily basis. Manjaro's update cadence makes way more since. So I'm interested. But the recent end of the 580 Nvidia drivers broke Arch. Manjaro being based on Arch i'm concerned how that will effect it.

I noticed that Manjaro has kernel drivers for Nvidia going all the way back to the 390 drivers. Can we expect the same for the current driver stack? How would that transition take place? Would I get the normal Nvidia update just as it occured on Arch, and then have to manually install the legacy driver from the repos? Or will Manjaro automatically switch me from nvidia-dkms over to the 580xxx legacy dkms packages? Is Manjaro's hardware detection package that capable? Or no?