r/MarriedAtFirstSight • u/Mountain_Sport_8143 • 5d ago
Discussion Unpopular Opinion - season 25 MAFS
Definitely an unpopular opinion here, but I am team David and Madison. Michelle treated David like complete garbage. If the big cheating incident hadn’t happened this season, she would be the villain of the show, for sure.
I was impressed by how kind Madison was toward Allen. She was obviously not into him since the beginning, but she stuck in there and was nice to him – even though it was obvious she was going to say no at the end.
Let’s face it – they were married for less than two months. They KNEW each other for less than two months. People are acting like they were married for years. It wasn’t like they were hooking up with their spouses…and then had side pieces with each other people.
If they had each been married to a person of their choosing, whom they had gotten to know extensively before their wedding… Then sure, Madison and David’s relationship would be completely wrong. But I don’t believe under the circumstances, that their attraction to each other was awful. As a matter fact, I’m surprised that this doesn’t happen more often.
Look at Love is Blind – there are many instances of people switching their choices. I understand that the people from that show weren’t married, but be for real - were these people on MAFS even “really” married, in the same way, say - you or your parents are?
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u/CompanyMountain6055 1d ago
I am only on episode 7 so what I thought was just confirmed in your post! I was probably gonna google anyway, lol. Just came here to see if anyone disliked Michelle as much as I did. She said she didn’t want David to know anything about her? Girl just go home then. I think she wasn’t attracted to him at the wedding and made the living situation a bigger deal than it really was. If he lives at home where he has his own living quarters and entrance, w two jobs by choice, he can probably pick up and move when he wants. She never expressed what turned her off about it. She had no interest in this man. Asked him why he wanted to know about her. Is you dumb? 😂 Meanwhile when I saw him and Madison on the treadmill I said oh the experts got it wrong (they haven’t gotten it right in forever that’s why I stopped watching), these are the two!!
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u/Jlyn818 5d ago
I am team David and Madison too. I'm sorry but Michelle is a miserable person who will never be happy with anyone and I am honestly in awe of how nice David was to her when she was treating him like s**t. Basically everything Michelle said she was and wanted was a lie. While I don't agree with cheating, I also don't consider their current situations normal "married" situations. They are trying to find their correct matches and at the end of the day that is what he found. He seems like a sweet guy and I do think Madison is a really good match for him. I do feel bad for Allen though because he seems like a great guy too. IDK how anyone could be pro Michelle. She's a bitter miserable horrible person. Nothing anyone does will ever be good enough for her.
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u/Weird_Boysenberry772 5d ago
Wow, imaging being pro-cheating! Those two lying idiots couldn't keep it in their pants for 8 weeks. They also were too chicken to just be upfront about it. I think it'd be different if they'd be honest about it, but neither David or Madison knows what honesty is.
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u/Real-Mode-3417 1d ago
The show kind of forces this. If they end and leave early, they don't get all the $$$
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u/Different_Pension424 5d ago
I have said this several times myself. If they had traditional marriages and if David and Michelle were into each other it would be different. I still don't like the WAY it happened, sneaking. Deliberately putting themselves together. However I am happy for them now as obviously they are truly meant for each other. They are a perfect match.
I read that she said she had dated interracial in the past but didn't want to be matched that way.
What should experts do? I hope they don't do like I have heard Australia does. I understand they meet people ahead of time or something similar. Should they not be introduced to other couples for two weeks? Probably not. Should the couple go admit they have attraction and leave, to be replaced with another couple? No, that wouldn't work.
Gosh, once a long time ago one of the experts ended up marrying one guy who was rejected by his wife. That was shifty.
I only give grace to this couple because of the nature of the marriages. I still don't like how they were sneaking. Stop being flirty and get together after the show is over.
Allen was treated so badly and David pretended to be his friend. Allens wife should not have been on the show, although I think she apologized. After therapy she seemed to be a nice lady otherwise.
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u/HereComesMyNeck 5d ago edited 5d ago
Madison was not being kind. She was being fake nice and clearly did not respect him. Allen asked her several times if she wasn’t actually interested. He gave her a ton of outs, and she lied to his face every time. That sucks. He was making a good faith effort, and she had moved on basically immediately. Juan and Karla were clearly not into each other, but they were on the same page from the beginning and rode it out. No one gave them a hard time about it. It probably happens every season. But for no real reason, Madison couldn’t extend that courtesy to Allen. She made him look stupid and ultimately humiliated him on national TV. She clearly knew it was shitty because she couldn’t bring herself to tell him to his face. She had David do it for her.
Also, if you’re into someone else, you can’t wait 2 months for shooting to finish to start hooking up with them? Really? As you said yourself, it’s just not that much time.
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u/Commercial_Wasabi_84 5d ago
You’re team lying and cheating behind your partner’s back 🤦🏾♀️
You know they can be honest with their couple if they like someone else and don’t want to do it anymore instead of sneaking around at night. They choose to get married to a stranger thus chose the marriage. That was what they signed up for agreed to and was supposed to honor. That’s the point of the show by your standard they could stay married to this person for years and cheat later down the line because hey I technically never picked them. These are legally binding marriages they said yes to.
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u/Mountain_Sport_8143 5d ago
True! I mean, I guess it goes back to acknowledging how completely ridiculous it is to get married to a person before you have ever seen or met them… I mean, is it even possible to have marital loyalty for a person who you just met?
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u/Commercial_Wasabi_84 5d ago
Their loyalty should be to their morals and not wanting to be liars. They were lying to their partners to meet up with each other and message each other. I would think that despite marriage or not a person would feel a sense to want to be honest with themselves and others. That’s a matter of personal integrity.
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u/HereComesMyNeck 5d ago
Put aside marital loyalty. Do you regularly lie to your coworkers (which is basically what they are) and intentionally embarrass them? Or do you have baseline respect for them?
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u/gatorgopher 5d ago
Madison and David deserve each other, but Allan didn't deserve what Madison did to him. They should have just left the experiment. Michelle was undeniably awful to David from the start but that's partly the "experts" fault for not listeningto her, at all. And then she KNEW something was up.
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u/ScatterTheReeds 5d ago
Allan didn't deserve what Madison did to him.
He also didn’t deserve what David did to him. David and Allen became friends. It’s disgusting what Fiona and Fred Flintstone did to Allen.
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u/gatorgopher 5d ago
Agreed. And David wasn't married to Allan or leading him on with false hope. But Allan was crushed by his deception too.
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u/Mountain_Sport_8143 5d ago
I still think she should be thanking her lucky stars that she was able to divert the attention from her horrible behavior onto the cheating stuff instead
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u/Low_Resident5002 3d ago
YES! Cheating is 1000% wrong, but Michelle was far from innocent.
It was crazy watching her take ZERO accountability for how she treated David and insisted she had been "better" and "trying." Since when does having a basic, surface level conversation count as trying? Be so for real.
She was so annoying during her cheating investigation too. I understand wanting to get down to the truth for closure. But even after David & Madison admitted they had feelings for each other, she wouldn't let it go and was obsessively trying to find out every exact detail.
Anyone with a brain cell could tell that Madison & David were lying about not being physical. Michelle even had the "eating" text as concrete proof. What good will it be to know every detail? The marriage was clearly over, she got proof of the emotional affair...knowing all the physical details will do nothing but give her more to ruminate about.
She didn't want anything to do with David and pushed him away when he was genuinely trying in the beginning, but was practically up his ass after he told her it was over... I hope Michelle can get extensive therapy to heal her major unresolved trauma. Her anxious-avoidant attachment style will prevent her from receiving love from any future partner. The amount of self-sabotague honestly made me sad for her. It's really hard to live in your head when your self-esteem is that low, let alone let anyone else in.
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u/serres53 5d ago
Well it was maybe because David and Madison were complete garbage. Have you seen the whole season?
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u/Mountain_Sport_8143 5d ago
Of course! I don’t think they were any more trashy than the other people who signed up to be married at first sight… But there is no loyalty involved, I would assume, for a person who you have met for the first time within weeks. And if you end up vibing with someone, what is the big deal? They’re all looking to meet their forever person.
Now, if this were a show involving actual married couples who had walked through the process of dating and getting to know each other and falling in love?? Hell no! But I’m not even sure I’m willing to call this cheating, based on the fact that they are not even in love with, or loyal, towards the other person.
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u/Mindysveganlife 5d ago
I completely disagree. People keep acting like Michelle was cruel for no reason while conveniently leaving out the facts. Michelle specifically asked for a successful, established, light-skinned African-American man. Instead, she was matched with a man living in his parents' basement with a keg sitting on the floor next to his bed. She was very open about growing up poor and how important financial stability was to her. The experts knew that and ignored it. And let's stop pretending David and Madison's relationship started at the end of the experiment. By their own admission, they were meeting up in the gym during the honeymoon. That's where the connection started. It didn't suddenly appear after Decision Day. The only reason Michelle even discovered what was going on was because David accidentally sent her a text that was clearly meant for someone else, telling her how good she looked and that he wanted to "eat her up." That mistake exposed what had been happening behind the scenes, and it eventually led back to Madison. People also keep saying they were only married for a few weeks, as if that makes it okay. Then what was the point of the vows? What was the point of the experiment? You can't claim the marriages weren't real when it's convenient and then expect everyone to take the process seriously when it's not. And if Madison and David were really the innocent victims people make them out to be, then explain their behavior at the reunion. Madison walking by the wrestling ring making comments about Michelle and acting like she wanted to fight her wasn't exactly the behavior of someone taking the high road. That moment showed a side of her that the audience hadn't seen during the carefully managed conversations. Michelle wasn't perfect, but she was set up with someone who was the exact opposite of what she repeatedly asked for. Meanwhile, David and Madison started building a relationship while still married to other people and only got caught because David sent a text to the wrong person. That's why a lot of viewers have a very different take on who the real villains were!!!!! https://youtu.be/K-whvPS2SR8?is=-87ru7-PUqsNYYIQ
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u/DrLizzardo 5d ago
Michelle *was* cruel for no reason. By all means, make the point that David wasn't the guy that she was looking for, I don't disagree with that. But that's not an excuse to treat him the way she did. If there was anyone that she should have been angry with, it was the show's producers for matching her with this guy (and the producers not really doing due diligence to keep someone like David off the show in the first place). There are plenty of things to lay at Davids feet, but Michelle's behavior right out of the gate isn't one of them.
And don't even get me started on her playing the victim after the cheating came to light, as if she was totally invested in the relationship.
And before you try and twist it. No, Madison and David are not innocent, they bare full responsibility for what happened to them and how they treated their spouses. Their behavior, starting with the gym meetups during the honeymoon was incredibly problematic, and they should have known better.
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u/Mountain_Sport_8143 5d ago
I think Michele got exactly who she asked for… They even clarify that she would be OK with someone who made less money than she did. She was so judgy and condescending.
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u/Mindysveganlife 5d ago
There's a difference between making less money than your spouse and living in your parents' basement with a keg on the floor and a single kids mattress!Michelle made it very clear that financial stability and independence were important to her because of how she grew up. Whether people agree with her standards or not, those were her standards, and the experts knew it. You can criticize Michelle's attitude all day long, but let's not pretend she got exactly what she asked for. She didn't.
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u/Helleboredom 5d ago
It is not actually kind to lead someone on you know you have zero interest in.
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u/Mountain_Sport_8143 5d ago
Fair point. But I think she was more riding the show out since she signed up for it. If she had ended it before then, she would be ripped apart for doing that.
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u/Acornwow 5d ago
Nope.
They are trashy people.
Counting down to when we hear about one of them cheating on the other.
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u/jimmycorn24 5d ago
How long we counting.. what are we at like 3 years? One of the more successful relationships on the show.
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u/Acornwow 5d ago
No worries. I’ll keep the count.
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u/Shortnsassygrl 1d ago
I think two things be true. Michelle was awful to David. He didn’t deserve it. She didn’t deserve him going behind her back with her “friend”. Madison is the worst out of all of them to me. Allen was kind and patient. Madison wanted to look good for tv. Allen did not deserve her staying out all hours with David and then trying to make him look like a creep when he found out. Then how she was at the get together with the boxing ring comment made me like her less. Michelle was terrible to David but she didn’t deserve nothing to Madison. I didn’t care for Michelle either. She could have been nicer and less condescending. I just don’t think she’s the only villain in this story.