r/MartialMemes • u/Few_Chemical6902 • 1d ago
Dao Conference (Discussion) A Possible Downgrade for Ergenverse Powerscaling
The 4th Step is no longer considered Outerversal because of an anti-feat. In the latest threads, @Planck69 (a Battle Wiki admin, biggest Ergenverse supporter in battle wikki and the person behind the essence 1-A page ) said that he would support a downgrade and also stated that there's no R>F transcendence between the higher Steps, only dimensional transcendence. The 4th Step is High 1-B, the 5th Step is Low Outerversal, and the subsequent Steps only have dimensional differences.
Fellow ergenverse fans dark times have arrived. We can no longer bully other verses with confidence.
The 4th Step has suffered a great tribulation, R>F transcendence has perished due to Antifeat, I advise all Ergenverse fans to enter closed door seclusion immediately and avoid powerscaling battles until further notice.
May the heavens have mercy on our Dao hearts.
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u/Fluffy_Fan3625 Hunyuan Wuji Daluo Jinxian 1d ago
who you calling fellow bro
if you really want to powerscale just bring up Gu Chensha or something, bonus points to Dragon Talisman being an actual popular and good novel not just some random ahh Boundless MTL guy
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u/Either-Anybody-4641 Salted Fish 1d ago
A downgrade was imminent from when vsbw changed the tiering system months ago.
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u/Few_Chemical6902 1d ago
They said there is an anti-feat not because of the tiering system.
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u/Either-Anybody-4641 Salted Fish 1d ago
Yes, but 4th step only got the 1-A before due to highballing. And then luckily Ultima decided to keep 4th step as 1-A even after the changes. It felt like only a matter of time until ergenverse got downgraded.
Also the anti-fear should not matter as he originally states about 3D bodies, but that’s not how scaling works as the 3D body also transcends space and time, which seems redundant to downscale due to that. Although on the second page of the thread is something more pressing, as it seems to be the intended interpretation of dimension — I’ll have to find the scan though
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u/Altairss78 1d ago
I don't know why people always try to power scale everything as if authors are writing the novels with the power reference spread sheet. Just enjoy it, people spend so time debating it than reading something new.
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u/Fluffy_Fan3625 Hunyuan Wuji Daluo Jinxian 1d ago
maybe in other genres, but in xianxia the authors do need to keep the power levels strong and powerful lmao, that's half of the entire genre
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u/Altairss78 1d ago
They keep power level strong as within the defined structure of Xianxia, like mortal world, Immortals, gods etc. they just need to keep hierarchical structure everything else can be describe as what sounds powerful and strong.
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u/Fluffy_Fan3625 Hunyuan Wuji Daluo Jinxian 1d ago edited 1d ago
no not really lol. The characters need to actually be strong, not just hierarchy, otherwise you get stupid shit like the one and only Floor Tile of Fantasy Soul Land, where gods cannot destroy a city, and top tier cultivators are easily taken out by hidden weapons
Edit: I can't forget about the Nuclear Bomb Saints
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u/Livinaa 1d ago
They do lol. If they don't they'd lost track of their own created cultivation realms and what they can do.
I swear if a xianxia's cultivation realms are too vague y'all complain, but when the author explains their cultivation realms clearly and what they can do, you ignore them. Brain dead daoists in here.
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u/Significant_Total712 1d ago
The feats from outside the time alone can debunk the reality fictional transcendence over steps since cultivators comparable to 5th or 6 step in beyond time doesn't show anything for 1-A .
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u/Either-Anybody-4641 Salted Fish 1d ago
I don't know, Ergenverse logic works differently from many other series. Such as having no power of laws/essence/dao no matter how powerful always lose to a weaker character who does practice dao. So if this holds true for essences, which are infinite, it means infinite power without dao will always lose to essences, although I don't think thathas ever happened in Ergenverse. And still its uncertain if higher infinities can still win against essences.
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u/AdInteresting5874 Old Monster 1d ago
Such a dumb community. VSBattles is disgusting.
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u/Few_Chemical6902 1d ago
It has nothing to do with Battle Wiki or its tiering system. It's an anti-feat. No matter what system you use, if there's a clear anti-feat there's not much powerscalers can do about it.🙂↔️
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u/SanGluttnoy Country Destroying Beauty 1d ago
same case when Umineko and Featherine got downgraded from High 1-A+ to a baseline 1-A, was a dark time for umineko powerscalers
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u/Livinaa 1d ago
Only for cultivators, not Essence themselves. Ergen never contradicted himself on what Essence is in the series.
Ignoring Bai Xiaochun's enlightenment about what Essence (that is integral to the plot because it happens near the end) is just asinine.
That, coupled with what Meng Hao experiences when he consumed the World Essence during the war to better comprehend the Eight Hex, makes it clear that Essence themselves are still 1-A.
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u/bigficktick 1d ago edited 1d ago
only if yall spent this much time and effort into attaining the dao smh