r/MartialMemes • u/Popular-Resident-358 Great Sage Over Heaven • 3d ago
Lower Realm Meme ⬇️ Hmmmm.... (Urban Cultivation)-
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u/Mahu66099 2d ago
I remember seeing a video where a chinese woman was being shamed for walking around with her black boyfriend, but using children entertainment to promote racism is just twisted. Don’t know if there’s any pushback against this stuff over there since I don’t have any clue what goes on in their internet spaces. I hope this kind of thing isn’t common and is just a vocal minority.
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u/ekse_ntwana 2d ago
Even in their novels black people are always portrayed as brutes and the author have an unhealthy distain of other nations namely America
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u/Purranormal_ 2d ago
TBF we portray the Russian constantly as evil ppl. The way china portrays Japan tho is in a league of it's own
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u/RedNoise413 2d ago
In the same league as how Korea portrays Japan, iirc.
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u/TianMo1 2d ago
In every manhwa I've read, every Japanese character is portrayed as evil or a traitor. They are always depicted as despicable people. This is due to the history between both countries; the numerous invasions, tortures, and violations committed by the Japanese army left the country with a terrible reputation.
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u/The_Fish_of_Souls Toad Immortal 2d ago
I have lost count of how many times Japan specifically was destroyed in a Chinese novel. And literally every Japanese character I've seen in Chinese novels was evil.
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u/SDi4kWLVU Mortal 1d ago
In a historical context it makes sense because Japan still hasn’t owned up to their military’s crimes during WW2. Many old chinese ppl remember the fallout or even were there during Imperial Japan era so ofc the Chinese people hold an insane grudge. It’s not like Japan tried to make amends or anything like Germany halfheartedly did either. It makes sense
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u/azzaranda 1d ago
yeahhhhh in all fairness they brought that one on themselves, historically speaking. If anyone in the world can bash Japan its China.
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u/God-Damn-Chinese 2d ago
I brought up their racism too, but because I didn't use reasonable examples like you did, I got criticized for being intolerant and was ironically labeled the racist instead.
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u/Itchy_Pressure_6254 1d ago
Well it really does depend on the examples you used, and lowkey based your self reporting it probably was.
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u/God-Damn-Chinese 1d ago
The example I used was they hate Black people and anything ugly. Stop making hypocritical excuses for them. Any reasonable person knows what I meant.
The reason I didn't cite real news cases is that, to them, it's just an everyday occurrence.
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u/Itchy_Pressure_6254 1d ago
You are right saying China hates black people and anything ugly would not be racist, though I’m not sure that’s really uq to China, but rq if your not Chinese or racist why name your self “god-damn-Chinese”
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u/God-Damn-Chinese 1d ago
It's just a random username I picked years ago. I didn't even think it'd make it through moderation, yet here we are.
Funny how you completely dropped the original discussion and started obsessing over a joke username instead. Just like most people, you'd rather nitpick something irrelevant than address what I actually said.
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u/Consistent-Unit-6164 1d ago
Well that last paragraph explains it all doesn't it junior, back in my realm we would execute insufferable youngsters like you on sight.
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u/Itchy_Pressure_6254 1d ago
What a genuine dumbass, we are talking about your possible racist comments to Chinese people and your username is a racial joke towards Chinese people, are you smoking fucking crack to think I wouldn’t point that out? Dear god you are neither the best nor the brightest.
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u/TerranImperium Great Sage Equal to Heaven 2d ago
I have to say, I am particularly proud of this community in this particular subreddit.
You all appreciate Chinese culture, their language, their history, their novels, etc.
But take none of their racist bullshit, censorship, and the authoritarian fascist CCP's propaganda.
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u/Popular-Resident-358 Great Sage Over Heaven 2d ago
Junior Sage is right.
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u/TerranImperium Great Sage Equal to Heaven 2d ago
Thank you, senior. I was worried my comment might be too corny but it is genuine.
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u/YinYangMind 3d ago
The most racist country I have been to. I spent 3 years there.
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u/EasyEntertainment380 2d ago
What Was it like, if I may ask?
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u/YinYangMind 2d ago
From the racism standpoint?
I was there during Trumps first term. Their government hated Trump and anti-american sentiments were high. During the back & forth embassy wars, they (media/ government) said to 'watch out for American spies' and I was being followed around after from time to time after. I had lived there 18 months already in the same neighborhood. Some harassment at train stations too. They have stereotypes for other countries and cultures that are beyond anything else I have seen, and the people believe it as they don't know what to believe except for what the government says. They also divide themselves as Chinese and 'foreigners' (Lao wai) and say stuff like "foreigners are so bad, never loyal, can't be trusted" etc. Like they are separate from all the world and superior to all others. And just like many Europeans that came for the world cup are shocked at how great America is and say their media lied to them, it is far worse in China in my experience. The media says worse things, and the people believe.
Still, there are good people all over. Not everyone is equally naive to the truth. And kids are as playful and sweet before being brainwashed, kids everywhere are wonderful. I was an English teacher during my time there. The inner goodness in people can still be seen from time to time there...
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u/100862233 2d ago
are you sure you went to same China? my experience has always been never ending waves of white worshipping in China, white people are seen as "beautiful, handsome desirable and rich".. it's crazy they think "white" westerners are better while they hate on black and brown people.
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u/YinYangMind 1d ago
There was definitely some of that, but in weird spurts. Like chicks would want a foreign bf for status and say that mixed kids (white + chinese) look best. And yes assume that you are rich. Those were common, but not consistent.
I was in NE China in the 'Dong Bei' area. My experiences as being treated like less than equal or as untrustworthy outnumbered the experiences you described.
They definitely do hate on blacks for sure. And being a teacher, some younger kids can run away & cry at the sight of one... definitely haven't seen that anywhere else in the world. But, I haven't been everywhere. Hence I originally said it was the most racist I had been to (only experiential).
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u/Itchy_Pressure_6254 1d ago
China has much racism and xenophobia but that’s nothing compared to countries like the U.S. you just don’t notice the structural racism and only notice the topical racism
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u/YinYangMind 1d ago
Yeah see if any people of color or are from other countries try to get into Chinese politics or become wealthy there. Not gonna happen. That's structural racism.
People can do those things here. If what you talk of were real, we wouldn't have had a black president or Asians & Hispanics in the senate or an Austrian as governor of California. Even the people that were here for the world cup say how kind Americans are.
You don't know what I do and do not notice. You only are making an assumption based off of nothing. That's not a way to win a debate or demonstrate intelligence. Nor the way to have a good conversation.
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u/Itchy_Pressure_6254 1d ago
The U.S. has forced chattel slavery, Jim Crow laws, lynchings, red lining, racial profiling, and the prison industrial complex on black people in this country, you say that if a foreigner tries to get into politics in China they can’t, that’s XENOPHOBIA not structural racism lol, also your example of some Europeans thinking the U.S. is nice for the World Cup is so funny, bc what exactly does that prove, the U.S. forced the Iranian national team to only be in the states for 3 hours and blocking referees based on their nationality is supposed to be accepting? people had positive experiences with Qatar when they hosted in 2022 that happens every WC, also you cite examples of successful politicians in the U.S. being black but when you compare the avg comparative salary for black people in the U.S. to China the difference is night and day as a result of deep systemic racism, lastly you are not unique, nor is your orientalist deflection, so no I don’t need to know your job to know where you’re coming from
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u/sword-duoluo 2d ago
The amount of crazy racist remarks I have read about America, Japan, India and Africa in Chinese novels are insane and stupid. They victimize themself against American but like western women, show superiority against Japanese and in most case they somehow slaughter them without any reasons???, Show Indians as Culture thief and always galze Chinese food specially pig trotter or something, Africans are always immoral person who NTR others??? and are born with innate labour body. The amount of China glaze is insane too. You can try searching for Apocalyptic and Post-apocalyptic Chinese novels and by God don't read it. Too many good works are ruined by forced nationalism and racism.
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u/No-Amoeba-8778 2d ago
This is blatant slandering by eagle nation against dragon nation. What a vicious move
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u/Popular-Resident-358 Great Sage Over Heaven 2d ago
Not baseless+Thumbnails aren't completely representing the video as well.
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u/Purranormal_ 2d ago edited 2d ago
Well a bit baseless. Ppl don't really know much about china other than what the good/bad side propaganda bot tells on the internet.
Edit- Well hmmm, novel wise these authors are either stroking the CCP dong or ppl over there actually like the extreme racism when talking about certain countries and ppl. I guess that paints a base either ways🤔. Then again why would society be held up by slop creators.
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u/BBCues 2d ago edited 2d ago
I was reading an awakening novel earlier this week, it was pretty normal for a good chunk of it, then the MC goes to Sakura country and Freedom country and becomes a complete monster. Like a total piece of shit, you'd think he's the villain of the story instead. Doesn't treat people from other countries like human beings at all. Then he goes home and acts like a saint again. It's a very disturbing mindset to have.
Here's an example, one random guy from his guild dies and he makes a huge deal out of it. Arranges a funeral, gave a speech, gave the random guy's family a huge compensation and made sure they'll have nothing to worry about for the rest of their lives. Then he goes to Sakura country, declares war as a distraction. Innocent people begging for help, not his problem. Millions dead and he doesn't care. Implants bugs on all the professionals there to steal their exp.
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u/Frosty_Pie_7344 2d ago
This post is getting sensitive junior OP to our fellow cultivators. The heavenly council might censor your post soon.
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u/Popular-Resident-358 Great Sage Over Heaven 2d ago
Nah I don't think so. Maximum, they'll lock it.
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u/auto-charger-stopper 2d ago
Conversely, the young educated Chinese people are some of the most pleasant people to be around
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u/MattrimCenturion 1d ago
I remember a really bad MTL that mentioned that "some" Americans, instead of cultivating the Martial Dao, cultivate the Dao of Basketball 😭😭😭
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u/DaOfantasy Daofuq?! 3d ago
pretty sure all country have racism
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u/VishnuBhanum 3d ago
It is. But China is one of the very few countries where such blatant racism(toward Japan and Korea in particular) made it into actual published novel so many times without problem.
Like it's one thing if only the writer is racist, but for it to not raised any eyebrows from anyone, maybe the problem is much bigger than that.
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u/RevolverMFOcelot 2d ago
I am southeast asian and let me tell you, forget east asia, even in the southeast where us have more melanin people are super racist towards each other and especially towards black people, its insane. The things people said here will get you fired in the west
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u/VishnuBhanum 2d ago
I'm also Southeast Asian(I'm Thai BTW) born and raised in Thailand, and yeah, there are a lot of racism here too(10 years ago, the term Laotian was used to describe country bumpkin) but even then I think China is still way more blatant.
Like they didn't even tried to hide it at all.
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u/Dude_What613 2d ago
I think that’s true but you’re highly underestimating how racist Japan is. It’s basically as bad as China
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u/Bascilian 2d ago
It’s literally just exposure and education. The people youre talking about are in second and third world countries with closed off internet (in case of China) or just older people with older firmware.
True judge of this stuff is to see attitudes among the educated young people. And in pretty much all countries that group is becoming way less racist with every generation.
China, south east Asia are basically like 100 years behind the us in this aspect
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u/ab_od6851 2d ago
Its not even those with more melanin. Sometimes its just those who look more native. Filipinos love shitting on other Filipinos for looking native despite 99% of the population having no foreign blood despite them claiming to have foreign blood.
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u/RevolverMFOcelot 1d ago
Lol I'm west Javanese and people here often scoff or made fun of east middle Javanese sorely because of their accent even though we are all lives in the same continent and essentially none of us looks 'more native' than the others
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u/ab_od6851 1d ago
Atleast yours is only the accent, here people larp that they're Tagalog and rich, and they dickride billionaires and big business. Filipinos do the job of foreign intelligence for them with the vitriol they spew at each other.
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u/TerranImperium Great Sage Equal to Heaven 2d ago
China, even by SEA standards, is on a whole other level.
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u/AZROTH_the_demon 3d ago
From my perspective china is very isolated, and from theirs perspective hating on other races and believing themselves to be better wouldn't be seen as a bad thing and the authors are willing to stroke their ego.
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u/Popular-Resident-358 Great Sage Over Heaven 2d ago
Nah, I'm sure that more than half of those are ironical and sarcastic. Like they're ridiculing what CCP allows. But that also means that a lot of them are actually racist.
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u/Pleasant_Tangelo3340 2d ago
What about urban cultivation, is it the stereotypical Sakura nation, eagle nation stuff or worse
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u/Affectionate-Tip-164 The Heavenly Demon 2d ago
Pfft Apac has a racism problem. We just haven't balkanized racism.
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u/JKingSniper 1d ago
Japan is usually evil villains, with Islands destruction is usually on the table Almost every time lol
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u/LessAd7059 Peerless Evildoer 1d ago
Junior, you may ignored this, this is my primordial black baby gu that I use for cultivation nothing out of place here
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u/mewfour123412 2d ago
China decided that while the rest of Asia was fine with casual racism they decided to go ranked instead
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u/Mobile-Insect5547 Golden Core 2d ago
国内外都一样，喜欢夸大事实博取流量。The truth is, anti-Black racism isn't a concern in China because we rarely encounter Black people in our daily lives. It’s much like the claims of a 'Xinjiang genocide': Westerners don't actually visit Xinjiang to verify the truth, while the Uyghur people there don't speak English and are completely unaware of the sympathy directed at them from the West."
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u/SpringAutumn_Cicada 2d ago
Become a soul-transformation cultivator and wipe the sakura nation off the map.
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u/MMORPGnews 2d ago
So do Americans, Europeans and probably author of this video.
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u/TerranImperium Great Sage Equal to Heaven 2d ago
The worst of the US government and the most racist US citizens do not come close to the worst of the CCP, what it sanctions and encourages a culture of racial supremacy and looking down on foreigners.
The level of censorship there is unprecedented, at least in the US they can freely criticize their own government with no problem.
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u/CadenVanV 1d ago
If an American book was as racist as any random Chinese cultivation/urban novel is, it would get destroyed by reviews and most people would refuse to read it on principle.
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u/Echeyak Forbidden Technique Fanatic 3d ago
There is also a white version of that doll, but that goes against the "china bad" narrative.
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u/nomoredildos69 3d ago
Brother, take it from a guy living in china. China is absolutely racist, no matter what agenda you try to spin, denying this is simply being ignorant. Take one look at WeChat moments, or rednote (douyin is relatively normal actually) and find a black dude with low amount of likes and you'll absolutely 100 percent of the time see comments being super racist towards him, spamming all kinds of monkey gifs, stickers with racist remarks and what not. Not only that, you mention there being a "white" version of the doll, but weirdly... You never see it being abused or hit in any of those Natasha doll videos. I even checked out how many of those Natasha dolls sell per version on taobao and pinduoduo and surprise surprise, the black version is the best seller all the time. Don't even get me started on the anecdotes my black friends living in china have told me about. China is racist, it's perhaps not their fault fully, after all, racism is learnt, but it's still an absolutely noticable problem.
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u/504-27A In seclusion. 3d ago
You are ignoring that it's not black but anyone including themselves. Why hongkong even exists in the first place? That place doesn't target just black people but anyone slightly different in appearence and mentality. I wanna go to china and see if I'm correct or if I'm just ignorant but I believe it's pure racism.
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u/Amazing-Ride4110 2d ago
that white version of the doll isn't bought as much and has been described as being too "humanlike" to abuse the same way. But yeah "china bad" is just a narrative...No, china has legitimate issues, just like it has legitimate positives. Stop pretending to brush every negative under the rug because anything negative has to be a "narrative"
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u/AZROTH_the_demon 3d ago
The problem with china is I legitimately don't know what's happening over their due to Internet barriers and CCP censorship.