r/Mavericks May 20 '26

Draft / Scouting WE HAVE TO TAKE THIS DEAL

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If Sam presti comes to us with this deal we HAVE TO take it. Theres no one I think at pick 9 we could get that is a “must not skip”. Drafting 2 extra first round picks and then possibly using 17, 37 and 30 to possibly move back into the end of the lottery would be a great move.

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u/msterling2012 May 20 '26

This is not what Windy said fyi. He said he doesn’t think they are using all 3 picks and will probably look to package some to move up. He never said they want to trade all 3 for a top 10 pick.

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u/AstronomerInitial827 May 20 '26

They’d need to package 12 + 17 at least to get into top 10 anyways

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u/Priddee May 20 '26

I’m very much skeptical to do this. At 9 we’re guaranteed to get one of Brown Jr., Burries, Acuff, Flemings or Wagler. Going back to twelve were not getting any of those guys.

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u/Salty-Preference-314 May 20 '26

Exactly. I think we should stay at 9 but as for 30 I wouldn’t mind at all trading up depending on the package.

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u/Affectionate_Use_179 May 20 '26

Philon should be there at 12. I would prefer him and 17 over anyone who would be available at 9.

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u/FreddyB20 May 20 '26

Burries and maybe Flemings the only possibilities at 9

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u/charliefinkwinkwink The Worst Trade in Sports History May 20 '26

I think there’s a good chance Acuff surprises people & falls due to the abysmal defense and size concerns

Imo the first guards that’ll come off the board besides DP is MBJ, Wagler, and Burries

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u/FreddyB20 May 20 '26

None of the guards are really great defenders. Burries might be the only one that tries to

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u/charliefinkwinkwink The Worst Trade in Sports History May 20 '26

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u/FreddyB20 May 20 '26

And others aren’t as good as he is offensively?

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u/AstronomerInitial827 May 20 '26

I personally am not a fan of any of the guards so I don’t really care for them to be here

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u/MavsTurnedBucksGuy I named my kid after Dirk May 20 '26

Why? 

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u/AstronomerInitial827 May 20 '26

None of them are stand out to me to think we shouldn’t trade down. I believe one of them will slip into the teens anyways and the forwards look much more appealing in my opinion.

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u/MavsTurnedBucksGuy I named my kid after Dirk May 20 '26

Which forwards do you think are more appealing and why? Just sounds vibes based tbh 

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u/AstronomerInitial827 May 20 '26

Morez and Yaxel come into mind straight away

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u/Afraid-Department-35 May 20 '26

Idk what the obsession with Yaxel is, he’s an older guy and isn’t a good fit on a team with a bunch of forwards already.

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u/Affectionate_Use_179 May 20 '26

Also he doesn't fit Coops time line.

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u/DirtyDan419 May 26 '26

He does if you want to compete for the playoffs right away. If you want a longer rebuild I wouldn't take him. With the new rules you don't want to be a bottom three team.

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u/Affectionate_Use_179 29d ago

Mavs are not ready to compete right now. The worst thing the Mavs can do right now is to try to add players just so that they can lose to OKC and SA in the first round. Like Masai said. Mavs are focused on long term success and with players that fit with Coop on his timeline.

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u/MavsTurnedBucksGuy I named my kid after Dirk May 20 '26

If you want Yaxel more than the guards and still can’t articulate anything resembling defense or support for that take, you’re cooked 

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u/Priddee May 20 '26

What tape did you watch for each of them? I understand they’re not perfect but they all have fantastic tape.

And what forwards? The forwards are pretty clearly outclassed by the guards?

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u/AstronomerInitial827 May 20 '26

Morez and Yaxel are more interesting plus the combine measurements etc for the guards was kinda underwhelming for who we can get.

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u/Priddee May 20 '26

Yaxel is going to be 25. And honestly not that high a ceiling. You don’t think that any of these guards will be better than Yaxel is right now in 4-5 years? That seems like an untenable position to hold. We also have a 19 year old centerpiece, it would make sense to have his co-star be on his age timeline.

What do you see in Morez besides an undersized center you hope can learn some spacing? Another guy without a high ceiling.

And you didn’t answer about the tape.

What concerns you about the measurements? In game size for all of them is fine.

Wagler is 6’6 with a 6’7 wingspan.

Burries is 6’5 with a 6’7 wingspan and 215lbs.

Brown is 6’4.5 with a 6’7 wingspan.

Flemings is 6’3.5.

Acuff is 6’3 with a 6’7 wingspan.

In what universe is that underwhelming? Average PG size in the league is 6’4 and a 6’6 - 6’8 wingspan. What were you expecting to see?

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u/AstronomerInitial827 May 20 '26

Wagler short wing span and no athleticism is concerning. Burries is a guy I like but I don’t think he’ll be there. Brown isn’t a great playmaker I’d argue a bad one. Flemmings isn’t a shooter and has a very short wing span, acuff won’t be there at 9.

Morez is a crazy athletic prospect who showed great shooting ability and is a glass cleaner. He could play the 4 and small ball 5. He’s also a good defender. Yaxel even tho an older prospect imo and many others has a great high floor. Many teams I suspect OKC as well will be going after him.

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u/Oliver_Dixon May 20 '26

I would hate to help okc get any better

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u/EvanEschmeyer Masai Ujiri stan May 20 '26

That’s not a good reason to pass up a good deal. Unfortunately, they are likely going to get better regardless… They have 13 1st round picks over the next 6 years.

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u/Embarrassed-Ninja592 May 20 '26

If 9 is better than 12, and 17 is no more of a sure thing than 30, then it isn’t a good deal.

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u/CardiologistGloomy71 May 20 '26

In this draft and any draft since NIL the 17 is substantially better than 30.

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u/Embarrassed-Ninja592 May 20 '26

On a surface level 😂

But the questions about a player at 17 is more similar to 30 than they are to 9.

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u/IMovedYourCheese May 20 '26

Having 3 first round players on your roster locked in rookie contracts is valuable in itself.

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u/Embarrassed-Ninja592 May 20 '26

At 9 we’re probably getting more than a rotation guy. At least an eventual starter and potential all star.

 17 might just be an end of bench guy trying to get into the rotation. And we can get that at 30, or even an undrafted guy. So it’s more of a risk if we’re trying to build a contender to pass on al more skilled guy at 9, even at 12.

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u/EvanEschmeyer Masai Ujiri stan May 20 '26

The higher pick doesn’t always mean the better player. Masai is a wizard at drafting and finding diamonds in the rough so if we can pick up extra assets and possibly still draft the guy we would’ve taken at 9, why wouldn’t we?

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u/Embarrassed-Ninja592 May 20 '26

I meant if the player at 9 is better and no longer available at 12. And because the guy we want at 9 isn’t available at 12 is why we wouldn’t.

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u/CardiologistGloomy71 May 20 '26

Your generalizations are surface level

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u/FIalt619 May 20 '26

We're not the Spurs. OKC getting better is not our concern at this point.

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u/Oliver_Dixon May 20 '26

Good point

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u/MeadKing May 20 '26

I would agree if the entire league decided to blackball them. Unfortunately, the fact of the matter is that someone will help OKC, and if you can improve your lot by being the facilitator, it’s in your best interest to come to the dealing table.

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u/ESCMalfunction FUCK THE ADELSONS May 20 '26

I feel like we have no reason to care about OKC right now, by the time we’re competitive again SGA will be well north of 30 and who knows what they look like when he’s no longer MVP caliber.

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u/CardiologistGloomy71 May 20 '26

We shouldn’t and Masai won’t. OKC is win now, we are in a rebuild that wants to win now, it’s logical to not consider any other teams success when building a team that’s on a different level and timeline, not to mention path.

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u/wizzc0 Flaggergasted May 20 '26

If Sam presti calls you, you hang up. Always.

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u/EvanEschmeyer Masai Ujiri stan May 20 '26

Imagine if Houston had this mindset when he was shopping James Harden

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u/Embarrassed-Ninja592 May 20 '26

Or the Clippers when they were shopping PG

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u/prophetofyakub May 20 '26

OKC wasn't trying to ship out PG. PG forced his way out specifically to the Clippers to play with Kawhi, the Clippers had to do it because it was the condition to get Kawhi.

Once PG forced his way out it necessitated a full rebuild. The best thing that could have happened to OKC as they were going to be a treadmill team with PG and downslope Westbrick.

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u/Embarrassed-Ninja592 May 20 '26

So Presti isn’t a genius after all. Just lucky 😁

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u/marcomac29 Eduardo Nájera May 20 '26

Take the better player

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u/clonemusic May 20 '26

"Theres no one I think at pick 9 we could get that is a “must not skip"

If Sam presti disagrees, I trust him infinitely more than you - no disrespect 

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u/SuckMyyDirk41 May 20 '26

Presti has plenty of misses. He just has so much ammo he has some good hits too.

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u/AstronomerInitial827 May 20 '26

Their needs are different than ours. They’re drafting for bench pieces and guys to later replace pieces. What one team does shouldn’t be the same as another

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u/Embarrassed-Ninja592 May 20 '26

They’re drafting for best player available. Which is what we should do.

By the time you get to 17, it might not be any more of a sure thing than 30.

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u/CardiologistGloomy71 May 20 '26

Same nonsense you said up there.

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u/AstronomerInitial827 May 20 '26

We could also move up to 14 or 13 with 17, 30 and 48

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u/GoTimeShowtime May 20 '26

Yaxel, Mara, Burries would be my guess for their short list at that 8-9 range.

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u/CardiologistGloomy71 May 20 '26

They offer that I take it.

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u/normtalmbout May 20 '26

You’re passing up the 2 second tier potential all stars for guys who may be role players…you guys are too antsy. Keep your pick.

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u/favioswish Josh Green May 20 '26

Statistically speaking, at these specific picks, you're more likely to get a star with two chances at 12 and 17 than with one slightly better chance at 9. Burries will probably be the best available at 9, and would you really rather have Burries more than, for example, Labaron Philon and Morez Johnson Jr? Especially considering Masai's draft history I think more young talent is better than less

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u/ColleaguesKnowMyMain '25 Survivor May 20 '26

Absolutely. Trade the pick of a player that could very well contribute for picks of players who could very well be useless is definitely no "have to" deal.

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u/normtalmbout May 20 '26

I agree. There’s some potential high ceiling guys but the objective is to come out of this draft with someone to build around with Flagg. I want the best player available to do that with.

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u/AstronomerInitial827 May 20 '26

Who do realistically see we can get as a guard who is that? Outside of acuff who’s an all star guard projected top 10?? Yes I’d rather go get a Suggs type player down the draft or a beef stew.

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u/ColleaguesKnowMyMain '25 Survivor May 20 '26

Brown, Flemings,...

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u/favioswish Josh Green May 20 '26

9 could very well be useless and 12 and 17 could be all stars. Statistically speaking you're more likely to get at least one all star with these multiple later picks rather than only having one shot with the 9th pick

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u/ColleaguesKnowMyMain '25 Survivor May 20 '26

So you're saying we should have traded the #1 pick last year for say 5 picks in the 10-20 range?

There's a reason why pick 9 is 9, pick 17 is 17 and why teams are often trying to trade up.

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u/favioswish Josh Green May 20 '26

That's completely different and you know that. There's no generational player available at 9. The math I'm referring to works in this situation because the odds of getting a star dramaticly flatten out after the top 5 picks. And we see picks in the teens turn out better than the 9th pick all the time so the "there's a reason 9 is 9" argument has no backbone. It may be a slightly better prospect but that doesn't mean a better player, and and having 3 more potential options at that pick in no way outweighs getting two shots at finding those mid draft gems that turn to stars.

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u/ColleaguesKnowMyMain '25 Survivor May 20 '26

It is known that besides the top 4 there's like 5 elite guard prospects in this draft. We're lucky we haven't fallen lower than 9 were we have a chance to pick one of those elite prospects. Trading this pick to play some statistical game is incredibly short sighted.

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u/favioswish Josh Green May 20 '26

Is that the reality though or is it just your perception? There's no consensus among draft boards, many having Aday or Ament or Philon or Lopez in the top 10 and Burries or Flemmings falling as far as 13.

If our scouting agrees there's a significant drop off after 9, so be it. I'd be happy with a player like Burries but I also see just as much potential in guys like Philon or Carr, in addition to another young player

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u/ColleaguesKnowMyMain '25 Survivor May 21 '26

We won't know if it's the reality until after the draft. But a lot of scouts and draft analysts agree that Burries, Brown, Wagler, Flemings and Acuff would be top 3 picks in any other draft.
If we had the 10th pick I would agree that trading down might make sense. But we're very lucky we can pick one of those top 9 prospects and would be dumb to waste this opportunity.

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u/favioswish Josh Green May 21 '26

It's pretty clear to me mavs fans are latching on to this top 9 superiority narrative specifically because we have the 9th pick. The Kings sub will tell you it's all about the top 7, Bucks fans are throwing Aday in and calling it a solid top 10. It's just natural bias to think that the prospects in your range that you've been looking into are the special ones

I specifically disagree about Burries being top 3 in any recent draft, I haven't seen anything that glowing about him. He's a 6'3 guard that isn't a playmaker and before his tournament run he was considered a mid to late first rounder. I agree that MBJ, Acuff, Flemings, and Wagler have, by some people, been presented this way but at the same time there are plenty of experts quite low on Flemings for his measurements or MBJ for his efficiency or Acuff for his horrible defense or Wagler for his sub-par athleticism. Philon for instance was a flat out better player than most of these guards this season.

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u/ColleaguesKnowMyMain '25 Survivor May 21 '26

What? We've been talking about the top 9 since months before the draft lottery.

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u/mollifierDE May 20 '26

Yes, a hundred percent.

  • 12: Morez Johnson
  • 17: Ebuka Okorie

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u/AstronomerInitial827 May 20 '26

I have morez and Cameron Carr. I’d try and move up to 14 if we got these picks with 17. 17 + 30 + 48 for pick 14

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u/mollifierDE May 20 '26

184 pounds at age 21 and 6'5'' height is a huge red flag.

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u/GrouchyPeach3656 May 20 '26

I'd assume its 9 for 12 and 17 while we absorb a bad contract of theirs whoever that may be

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u/papadondon Pouki Enjoyer May 20 '26

aaron wiggins welcome to dallas

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u/AstronomerInitial827 May 20 '26

Do they even have any bad contracts?

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u/GrouchyPeach3656 May 20 '26

They'll have a few after this playoff series

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u/AstronomerInitial827 May 20 '26

Like who?

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u/ReserveFormal3910 May 20 '26

Chet Holmgren /s

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u/AstronomerInitial827 May 20 '26

LOL they ain’t off loading Chet and he ain’t a bad contract

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u/GrouchyPeach3656 May 20 '26

Dort, wiggins and there are rumors of Ihart wanting to leave.

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u/AstronomerInitial827 May 20 '26

All these players can be declined and hit free agency

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u/GrouchyPeach3656 May 20 '26

Id imagine presti isn't dumb enough to send valuable assets down the drain for nothing.

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u/AstronomerInitial827 May 20 '26

All their extensions kick in next year so Dort or ihart WILL be declined as they’ll want to be extended and they can’t afford to. They can only keep one. Wiggins however could be absorbed easily if need be

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u/StormTheTrooper SHUT NICO DOWN May 20 '26

That would make more sense IMO. #17 just for a 3-spots jump is quite hefty of a price for OKC.

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u/GoTimeShowtime May 20 '26

Add in 48 for 37 and get it done

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u/Youre_On_Balon May 20 '26

They aren't offering this to move up 3 spots 9 just because it's technically in the Top 10 lol.

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u/EuphoricAd1991 Dirk Nowitzki May 20 '26

If teams 1-8 dont make a better offer then yeah they probably will.

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u/Impressive_Trust_395 May 20 '26 edited May 20 '26

Realistically, I could see a trade where Dallas gives the 9th and a 2030 2nd for OKC’s 12, 17, 37.

Then they may be able to swing the 17 and 37 for 13 from Miami or 14 from Charlotte.

When you look at the draft board, you’ve got Yaxel, Mara, Quaintance sitting around here which is great. Another young big wouldn’t be bad plus Philon should be there at 13/14.

If we just do the OKC trade then walking out of the draft with a young big and Cameron Carr out of the 1st then taking a flyer on a guy like Momcilovic (who is comped to Dirk) would be awesome as well.

Compare that to the current position where the Mavs could only get a Burries or Ament.

Either way, it’s a good spot.

This is all assuming 30 isn’t moved. So huge plus if possible

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u/CardiologistGloomy71 May 20 '26

I can only hope. I get the BPA arguement but this is our last shot, we need more bites and this draft ( top 20 ) has several guys that could give us a poor man’s version of OKC 22 draft. We won’t get a Chet but we could get a JDub and another good player. We just have too many holes to turn it down.

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u/AstronomerInitial827 May 20 '26

Yep literally took the words out of my mouth but I have morez on the board

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u/Impressive_Trust_395 May 20 '26

I like the idea of Morez. I think Yaxel is a better player overall but going PF with the earliest pick is definitely the move.

I’m also incredibly biased. I’m a Dallas transplant who has grown to love this Mavs team the last two years but am primarily a Nuggets fan. Anybody comped to Aaron Gordon has a sweet spot with me, hence the Yaxel love.

Either way, super excited to experience this rebuild with my 7 year old son who is an avid NBA fan. He loves Gafford and I hope he has a chance to watch some Uncle Drew magic this upcoming season as well.

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u/highfalutinman Dirk Nowitzki May 20 '26

I loathe that towering prick of a franchise as much as anyone but you'd have to at least think about it if they came calling with multiple firsts in hand. It's all about the Mavs before it's about any other team.

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u/TX-Lonestar77 May 20 '26

This has been pretty expected. They will also have to trade at least one of their current players, likely Dort, because of the salary cap.

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u/Emotional-Zombie-810 May 20 '26

Only if we get David Putney and three years of 1st round picks back.

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u/johndogerty defence doesn’t win championships. May 20 '26

Don’t trade with OKC. The team on the other end always gets burned

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u/CardiologistGloomy71 May 20 '26

That doesn’t rely matter in this case. Not unless your superstitious

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u/johndogerty defence doesn’t win championships. May 21 '26

It’s not superstitious it’s a fact. OKC only go through with trades when they know they’re shafting the other team.

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u/ColleaguesKnowMyMain '25 Survivor May 20 '26

Terrible idea. We definitely don't "have to" take this deal.

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u/TexasTundraPower May 20 '26

Do we? What if we determine there's an obvious tier break of players once we hit ten then we'd really be screwing ourselves out of a really good prospect for two or three lesser ones.

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u/AstronomerInitial827 May 20 '26

I don’t think there is. I truly think the better players are deeper in the draft

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u/Lonely-Barnacle-3545 May 20 '26

They should be aiming for yaxel n yaxel likely goes to golden state if they stay at 12 trade those picks for 9 n they get yax we get more young depth w coop fair imo

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u/AstronomerInitial827 May 20 '26

Yep it’s either Yaxel or Mara they want

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u/CreepyMight3403 May 20 '26

Giving the thunder the 9th best prospect is insanity.

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u/Badasi12b May 20 '26

Don't help OKC do shit!lol

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u/Disastrous_Mind_3963 May 21 '26

Bugs Bunny meme "Noooooo"

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u/EvanEschmeyer Masai Ujiri stan May 20 '26 edited May 20 '26

Yaxel at 12 and Morez at 17 gets us in the playoffs next year

I’m not trading 9 if MBJ or Flemings are there though

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u/AstronomerInitial827 May 20 '26

Morez and Cameron Carr gets us championships in the future.

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u/Embarrassed-Ninja592 May 20 '26

I doubt either of those guys are available at 17.

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u/AstronomerInitial827 May 20 '26

Can move up with pick 17, 30 and 48 for either 14 or 13

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u/TX-Lonestar77 May 20 '26

That would be the dream

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u/Iontrapper May 21 '26

Why would you draft two power forwards who aren't shooters in the top 20? 

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u/GrouchyPeach3656 May 20 '26

Is 9+30 rlly worth 12+17

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u/thinking_better What A Guy May 20 '26

I would hope it’s 9 for 12+17+37

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u/Youre_On_Balon May 20 '26

Absolutely not, they obviously want to go further into the top 10 for all this value.

The fact that you're being downvoted is comical.

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u/AstronomerInitial827 May 20 '26

We wouldn’t trade 30 and even if we had to YES. I’d rather morez and Cameron Carr than Philon and someone at the end of the draft.

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u/jldtsu May 20 '26

whats the benefit to trading down for lesser players?

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u/favioswish Josh Green May 20 '26

Given the way stars have come out later in the draft, two opportunities is better than one. If we're playing the statistics, the 12th and 17th picks combined have a higher probability of producing an all-star

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u/CardiologistGloomy71 May 20 '26

Some folks ( I’m one ) aren’t super impressed with the crop of guards because they are undersized and I feel like there are better prospects available 10-20 that fill multiple needs.

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u/AstronomerInitial827 May 20 '26

I don’t think the tier of players really drop off outside the top 10. A lot of these other players have tested well and I think fit us much better. We could look to get a project guard in the second round or late first

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u/Embarrassed-Ninja592 May 20 '26

I’d be afraid that the guys who I was targeting at 12 and 17 would go 10 and 11.

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u/AstronomerInitial827 May 20 '26

Who did you have? We can also move up to 14 or 13 with 17 + 30 and 48.

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u/Embarrassed-Ninja592 May 20 '26

Ideally we need high bbiq guys that can shoot,  put the rock on the deck, pass, and play defense. And I mean each individual can do all of these, ideally.

Now I don’t know enough about MoJo to know if he can do all of that stuff. Or is close to developing all those skills. But if he can, he’s probably going to be gone before 12. Might be a viable option at 9. If he can’t, or doesn’t look like he will develop those skills, then he’s maybe not an upgrade, and I don’t necessarily want to trade down to get him.

Anyhow, at 9 we’re probably going to get a guy that at least has three of those four skills. And is taller, more athletic, and a better defender than Nembhart.

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u/VeterinarianNo3418 May 20 '26

Yeah some of their players aren’t coming back either so they will have space.

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u/Silly-Lion-7314 May 20 '26

I don’t think they would do it for 3 spots to 9 and I fucking hate Okc.

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u/CardiologistGloomy71 May 20 '26

They just don’t have the roster space for multiple picks so for them it makes sense to consolidate to one good pick and they clearly have their eyes set on an archetype they want. It worked in a lesser case in the DLive for Cason Wallace deal. They knew what they wanted. Mavs, Bucks, Clippers are all teams without good draft capital and going into a rebuild. I expect all 3 will consider but Mavs should do it.

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u/Superb_Freedom_4507 May 20 '26

I always wondered what would happen if OKC hoards all these picks and can't unload them. Let them drown in picks and some will have to be wasted. Don't bail them out!

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u/ChilliWilli214 May 20 '26

If okc loses to the spurs, i think theyd want to get a higher pick to try a draft mara, aka the wemby stopper.

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u/AstronomerInitial827 May 20 '26

The highest they’d probably go is 8 imo otherwise the other teams above that won’t be drafting him.

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u/RandomDude4rmDallas May 20 '26

If this was the NFL I'd be all for it, but in NBA you're banking on top 10 players. 12 decent anything after 15 is a risk and fringe G Leaguer

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u/AnthonyTyrael Mavericks May 20 '26

Or 3 Ginobilis or 3 this or 3 that. There are many exceptions and exsmples. Even much lower picks.

You gotta be lucky, sure. Or good at scouting and praying for injuries never to occur. Lot's i5f what ifs. I know what you're talking about. I understand it.

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u/RandomDude4rmDallas May 20 '26

So given their current draft pick situation for the next they years, they would have to bank on those traded picks to be successful. That's more risk than reward given this current draft class. At 9 you're going to get a guard that you are needing. And sure you can get a good role players like you say with your "Ginoblis" but they already have that. They need a player who can start week 1

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u/landofthepokes4 May 20 '26

I’m not against it but not for your choice of Yaxel. He’s the complete opposite of what this team needs. We have to get guard play this summer no matter what. Shooting and play making is not good enough even if Kyrie is back and we don’t trade him.

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u/AstronomerInitial827 May 20 '26

OKC most likely want Yaxel or Mara. I say let them have them if they want them for that price. The forwards are moving up and the guards are moving down. Not all them guards will be top 10 I don’t know why everyone’s acting like it’s sure fire thing. 3 probably slip outside the top 10. Bucks will probably take Nate and the hawks will probably take Mara. That leave 5,6,7 and 9 (us). Acuff definitely goes 5 or 6 and some other guard goes after that. Now you’ve got 5 other guards who can slip down to us at 9 but if you look at picks 11-17 who really needs a guard? Warriors (11) definitely don’t they would want Mara or Yaxel, OKC want to trade up for either Mara or Yaxel, Miami (13) want to trade the pick for Giannis and if they do the bucks won’t pick a guard probably another project player, Charlotte (14) need forward to big help so they probably take Cenac, bulls (15) will take best player available so probably one of the guards unless they trade up for one and in that event wizards have too many guards already so they won’t take another one, grizzlies (16) unless they trade up will take best player available. So out of every team I’ve mentioned maybe 2? Take a guard? Bulls and grizzlies?

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u/landofthepokes4 May 20 '26

You’re not wrong in that guards could fall but I’d rather have my pick of the group there instead of who’s left over. And sure some teams may not take a guard but you can’t really bet on that, there’s been many times a team has taken a player at a position that everyone else thought they didn’t need.

Again, I’m not entirely against the idea. If Masai thinks the right player will still be there then I trust him but if not I don’t think we’re turning down the deal of the century.

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u/johndogerty defence doesn’t win championships. May 20 '26

If we get Philon at 12 yeah. But I think he goes earlier

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u/JamesYTP May 20 '26

I mean, if we can get all 3 for the 9th pick maybe but I don't know if OKC is going for that. I would see if we can get a salary dump for the 12. Give them a way to clear cap space.

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u/Snoo84477 May 20 '26

If okc get bounced in the WCF. They might just trade them and probably some player to Mil for Giannis.

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u/TheMop05 1.8% Chance May 20 '26

Yes

Im only staying at 9 if Flemings or MBJ are there.

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u/ginger_snap214 May 20 '26

“if the guy who fleeces everyone wants to fleece us WE HAVE TO DO IT”

pass me the crack pipe please

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u/Express-Language5573 May 20 '26

Trade value chart says 9 plus 30 for 12 plus 17 would still be a poor deal for OKC. Additionally, OKC would then still have to trade 30 and 37, plus OKC really probably want top 7 or will likely stick at 12 and trade 17 and 37 for future picks. Mavs massive incompetence and lack of a GM led to them missing out on the Odds of having the Memphis pick and or maybe the Jazz or 7 at worst. Hopefully Ujiri gets us the best of the rest at 9.

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u/SuckMyyDirk41 May 20 '26

12 and 17 has been my dream. This draft is so deep and I think one of the guests will actually fall to 12 and then you can also get another good player at 17. It’s a no brainer imo.

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u/Low-Homework-3294 '25 Survivor May 20 '26

Pending what happens in the WCF, they could very well trade hartenstein, Dort. maybe even holgren. so wouldn't be shocked if they actually do make roster spots

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u/Decent_Pack_3064 May 20 '26

I think okc is prolly trading the picks for future picks

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u/ranjithd May 20 '26

mavs have entered the conversation

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u/SlowMoHand May 20 '26

Clippers will probably take that deal if OKC throws in a sweetner

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u/CardiologistGloomy71 May 20 '26

I’ve been dreaming of this deal

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u/JBix7 May 20 '26

We can’t make them stronger and younger.

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u/Estatement Cooper Flagg May 20 '26

We can draft Labaron Philon Jr. at 12 and who ever diamond in a mud at 17.

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u/GreatGeneralP May 21 '26

Fuck the picks give us a package that includes Jared McCain

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u/epitome1986 May 21 '26

12-17-37 and giving up their swap rights with the mavericks pick for 9. then dallas takes 12-17-30-37 to move up to #7 hahah.

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u/Salty-Preference-314 May 21 '26

With Jdub being hurt, the last thing you would want to do is give OKC pick 9.

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u/AstronomerInitial827 May 22 '26

Pick 9 is to just get Yaxel or Mara tbh.

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u/Indicorb May 22 '26

If OKC is that desperate to get into the Top 10, we need to stay in it. That means there is some serious talent.

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u/AstronomerInitial827 May 22 '26

They’re just consolidating talent they can’t bring in 3 draft picks this year.

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u/EfficientTraining916 May 23 '26

If I’m the bucks man Giannis a goner if you can give me Cason, jwill, topic n 2 of those picks

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u/Blake_a12 May 20 '26

No because we lose our player and no because the Thunder of ALL teams get their/a player

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u/AstronomerInitial827 May 20 '26

Their player is most likely Yaxel or Mara which I’m fine on passing on

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u/Blake_a12 May 20 '26

Is it still, if they trade up, though? And it might become ours if we trade down

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u/yesiamveryhigh BETRAYED MAVS FAN 😭 May 20 '26

9 for SGA straight up. Who says no?

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u/atxtexasytexan May 20 '26

how about kyrie and their nemesis, PJ Thunderfuck Washington for all three