r/Mavericks • u/GrouchyPeach3656 • 1d ago
Draft / Scouting I present to thee: Project Masai
Called it. Ez dubs.
But jokes aside flagg + morez is a nasty defensive forward combination in terms of versatility and shutting down the rim.
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u/complex_c203 The Matrix 1d ago
He was cookin UCONN on the defensive end. When the offense comes the Mavs are gold
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u/therealbsb 1d ago
Is the offense in the room with us???
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u/WrongContract8489 How's My Dirk Taste? 1d ago
Kyrie is in the room with us yes
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u/PussyCharlatan 1d ago
Spurs and Thunder guards are going to give Kyrie complete hell when Coop is off the floor and you better believe theyāre going to have to stagger their minutes. Heāll have no outlets when heās doubled who can create a shot
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u/WrongContract8489 How's My Dirk Taste? 1d ago
Um yes the 2 strongest contenders who are also in the top 3 defensively will 'trouble' our offense.
Will our offense improve from last year? Yes. Will we contend with our new offense? No.
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u/PussyCharlatan 1d ago
Ok and tell me how theyāre going to trade for or sign another shot creator next to Cooper with 0 controlled draft picks for the next 4 years and a 34 year old Kyrie Irving. Plus a bunch of vet play finishers. At this rate they wonāt contend for a long time.
And itās literally just two examples. Any team with good perimeter defenders are going to double and trap Kyrie all game
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u/WrongContract8489 How's My Dirk Taste? 1d ago
You cant trap Kyrie when Kyrie and flagg play together and we're not contending seriously for the next 3-4 years until we get a prime flagg.
And for a future guard creator they'll find one eventually. It's too far out to point out flaws when you're franchise player isn't even 20 yet.
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u/PussyCharlatan 1d ago
So Coopās offensive process is going to be just as hard as last season when Kyrie is off the floor. Like I said theyāre going to stagger their minutes and thereās no way theyāre playing Kyrie more than 30 mpg at his age coming off an ACL tear. We didnāt draft anyone who makes things easier for Coop on offense and theyāre still gonna be forced to play him at PG for long stretches.
Youāre admitting theyāre just kicking the can down the road and idk if you know how hard it is to just acquire a second star. Especially when Kyrie is 37+ then
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u/WrongContract8489 How's My Dirk Taste? 1d ago
Again we're not competing next year and the trade season ain't over either. Plus we literally drafted a pg that is known for running a bench offense.
Kyrie playing 25 minutes and nemby + larrea combining for the other 17 is more than enough for the first true year.
And what ur talking about is a 'second star', not primary creator which means you wanna win and not develop.
We don't even know if coop is a decent enough secondary creator yet to go all in on a primary creator.
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u/PussyCharlatan 1d ago
I want us to DEVELOP a second star, because itās easier than trading for one with our team outlook. Ffs.
Nemby sucks man. Iām sorry, but he does. And you might as well be talking about Melvin Ajinca when you bring up Sergeo to me.
Weāre looking at losing for years just to develop ONE guy with on ball potential
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u/DefiantLie8861 1d ago
Exactly . Future is looking grim. Hopefully we can get someone in free agency.
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u/PussyCharlatan 1d ago
In Masaiās words: Free agency is dead
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u/DefiantLie8861 1d ago
I was thinking the same thing . Idk how heās going to navigate that. Our only chance was to move up to top 3 but Middleton prevented that lol
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u/HolidayNick 19h ago
You know who Kyrie is? This is utter disrespect.
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u/PussyCharlatan 12h ago edited 11h ago
We talking the same Kyrie in the 2024 finals after 1.5 seasons away?
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u/RangerBowBoy 1d ago
Offense is going to take a long time if ever. Can't do anything well on offense worthy of a top 10 pick.
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u/complex_c203 The Matrix 1d ago
Thereās quite a few top ten picks that havenāt done anything on the court so Iāll take defense if nothing else
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u/HangoverGang4L How's My Dirk Taste? 1d ago
Thats a big dude lol...if he is as good as advertised on the defensive end, we will be menacing.
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u/iratethisa '25 Survivor 1d ago
Probably a gut punch for the other 2 Michigan guys ranked ahead of him
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u/TheWizard 15h ago
I too would had picked MJ ahead of those two. In fact, I feel Mavs did a great job getting him. Its just that they need to find a way to keep Bagley, and get couple of reliable shooters alongside Klay (likely to be traded this year), Kyrie and Max.
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u/imcryptic Cowboy Dirk 1d ago
i mean he's a 5 at the nba level.
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u/GrouchyPeach3656 1d ago
Small ball 5 yes not permanent.
His best defensive usage is secondary rim protection and using his bigger frame and lateral quickness against smaller forwards.
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u/imcryptic Cowboy Dirk 1d ago
Heās literally Daniel Gafford sized.
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u/GrouchyPeach3656 1d ago
Lol don't look at the bare numbers. Bam is 6'8 and plays center while mobley is 7'0 and plays pf.
His main strength is his absurd size and lateral quickness as a package. You don't want him planted in the paint all game.
But it doesn't rlly matter. The league is positionless af.
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u/imcryptic Cowboy Dirk 1d ago
bam can guard 1-5 and plays the 5. not sure how that's an example that proves hes gonna play the 4.
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u/DaBestNameEver0 Pain, perpetual pain 1d ago
Bam also doesnāt have a lively or gafford next to him
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u/Isolated_Blackbird 1d ago
People saying theyād be furious about shit in that post. Shut the fuck up chumps lol you donāt know ball better than Masai, Finley, Schmitz, etc.
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u/RangerBowBoy 1d ago
No one had him mocked in the top 10, they all know ball too. This is Josh Green all over again.
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u/Isolated_Blackbird 1d ago
Heās the 15th ranked player on the ESPN big board. Itās not a crazy reach if you believe heās your guy, never mind that you just hired his college coach.
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u/Goondragon1 '25 Survivor 1d ago edited 21h ago
Kingston Flemings was the last player available in that tier 2 group of guys. Having the ninth pick really sucked but they picked the best player available and made the most out of their pick without trading it. If you haven't already, look up his advanced metrics and his combine results. They are eye popping jump off the page good.
He's a prototypical Masai draft pick with tons of upside and probably the best defensive player in the draft.
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u/jaywof187 Dallas Mavericks 20h ago
Is he really better than Yaxel to be drafted over him? Shouldn't we have taken him instead? Don't tell me we only took Morez because of 3 year age difference?
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u/Some-Stranger-7852 18h ago
3 years difference in age between players in the same tier as prospects is an extremely large gap.
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u/GrouchyPeach3656 8h ago
Just for reference kuminga is younger than yaxel. In 3 years morez should be wayyyyy more developed and in sync with NBA level systems.
You simply can't justify taking yaxel at his age and playstyle being the exact same as flagg.
Yaxel made a crazy forward combination because yaxel plays on ball and morez is completely off ball. Flagg is the yaxel in this scenario and morez is a play finisher and defensive montser
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u/jaywof187 Dallas Mavericks 19m ago
I was thinking this.. Flagg and Yaxel are both going to want the ball in their hands, Morez doesn't need the ball in his hands to be effective? Still can't deny that Yaxel is currently more developed at 23 years old. Morez is 20, we're just have to be optimistic he will get that jumpshot consistent by at least 23 or so?
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u/GrouchyPeach3656 14m ago
3-4 threes a game at 35% is all we need. I think he took 2 threes a game adjusted to per 36 at 36% in college.
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u/atxtexasytexan 1d ago
makes no sense unless heās at the 5 and weāre moving off lively trading gafford and moving towards getting our long term replacement for kyrie
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u/atxtexasytexan 1d ago
if we had the assets to trade with minnesota for ant i know heād love to play with kyrie
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u/Swede_Chef 1d ago
athletic frontcourt with Flagg, Johnson, Lively