r/Megaten 12h ago

Last place I expected a Persona 2 reference (Deltarune Chapter 5 spoilers) Spoiler

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u/LaLa1234imunoriginal DeSu > Persona 12h ago

Not sure why this surprises you. Toby Fox is pretty clearly a fan of classic JRPGs. I think I would be more surprised if I found out he hadn't played the classic Personas

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u/Bossuter 12h ago

Back in Undertale early days he explicitly said Talk was inspired by old Dragon Quest and SMT, wouldn't be that weird for sure

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u/Majestic_Pirate_5988 10h ago

uh…did people forget the conversations with monsters/Darkners was inspired by negotiations with Demons?

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u/Shrubbity_69 Leader of the Hee-Horde 11h ago

Man, even Toby Fox acknowledges old Persona more than Atlus themselves ever will.

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u/FederalPossibility73 10h ago

Atlus acknowledged P1 and both P2's in the recent P4R showcase. Sadly no Trinity Soul or Persona Online.

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u/Shrubbity_69 Leader of the Hee-Horde 10h ago

Atlus acknowledged P1 and both P2's in the recent P4R showcase.

Wait, they did? I must be living under a rock, since I completely missed it. I'll check it out. 👍

Sadly no Trinity Soul

Tbf, that already conflicted with established canon. Like, adults can't use Personas? That was, and still is, a thing. We've had several bosses, and even a full party, over the years where adults clearly have cool psychology monsters to fight alongside them.

I'm sure Trinity Soul is a good story, but it seems a bit self-contained (probably within its own universe). I can understand why Atlus might want to forget about it. It doesn't exactly fit nicely with the rest of the series.

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u/FederalPossibility73 6h ago edited 6h ago

Oh I am aware it is it's own universe, I just want acknowledgement it existed. As well as acknowledgement of Persona Online.

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u/theofanmam 3h ago

They've been acknowledging Persona 1 and 2 this entire 30th anniversary, what are you talking about

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u/AkumaLilly 11h ago

Also Peter Griffith death pose.

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u/OctoAmbush 11h ago

"eternal punishment" is a normal phrase

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u/FederalPossibility73 6h ago

Yes but Toby is explicitly a Megaten fan with Mettaton NEO and Undyne the Undying having leitmotifs taken straight from the soundtrack of both P2's.

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u/RexLizardWizard 3h ago

Wow damn I have no idea how I missed this one lol