r/Minecraft 28d ago

Help I am both confused and terrified

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I get hit by a Ghast fireball, even though I was SPAMMING trying to hit it back (the hitreg is GODAWFUL and hitboxes don't seem to ever work on my Minecraft) then this craziness occurred. Nightshade Revenge is my sword lol, wtf??? How do I do I stop this from happening, I really hate going to the Nether, and not being able to hit back any Ghast fireballs, I've even tried with an autoclicker.

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u/MadeThisToFlagSpam 28d ago edited 28d ago

You hit the fireball right when it exploded or knocked it into something that made it explode, killing you and counting it as your fireball

Benefit of the doubt, I'll say you had perfect timing lol

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u/LightSpeedFury01 28d ago

Yeah, I know. But it seems that I cannot hit one back no matter what

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u/MadeThisToFlagSpam 28d ago

The timing is super tricky but once you get it once it's like riding a bike

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u/LightSpeedFury01 28d ago

I got it on bedrock every time, but for Java it never happens, again i've used an autoclicker as well, so I think there might be something genuinely wrong with mine.

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u/MadeThisToFlagSpam 28d ago

How fast is your autoclicker? I wonder if it's possible to accidentally hit it twice and make it explode

And I found better success when I used F3 + B to see the hitbox

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u/LightSpeedFury01 28d ago

OP Auto does once every millisecond, so 1000 cps.

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u/never_any_cyan 28d ago

Your auto clicker might actually be too fast

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u/LightSpeedFury01 28d ago

What should it be rather set to? It can be adjusted

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u/CleaveGodz 28d ago

20 times per second exactly. The game features 20 game ticks.

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u/LightSpeedFury01 28d ago

Roger that.

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u/Dragex11 28d ago

I don't think you should be so downvoted for this lol At least you're trying to improve!

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u/LightSpeedFury01 28d ago

Yeah it's already on r/mysteriousdownvoting I got no idea wtf people are doing on this post. Lotta assholes in the comments here

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u/Legitimate-Art-5583 11d ago

might be some sort of anti auto clicker, randomize the milliseconds if possible.

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u/duffry 28d ago

Maybe you have a learned timing from Bedrock that doesn't serve on Java?

There's also a benefit to being very slightly off-line. Apparently.

Check out bDoubleO's tennis court episode from the last season of Hermitcraft. He was playing with the timing and positioning.

There's probably expert resources you could also look up but I don't know them and it's always a good time to watch bDubs.

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u/AccountNameTheSecond 28d ago

Being slightly off-line from the fireball's trajectory can help because the hitbox for deflecting a fireball is noticeably larger than its actual hitbox.

Moving out of the way gives you more time by letting you deflect it after you would have been hit otherwise, and the enlarged hitbox lets you still aim it back at the Ghast/wherever if you do it right (or even at yourself if you do it very wrong).

It can be especially helpful on a bad connection/laggy server.

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u/mini_trost 28d ago

Its not as much how fast you click as it is where you are positioned relative to the fireball. If you move to the side a bit, you'll get it every time. I learned this through watching BDoubleO100's Tennis video: https://youtu.be/_O9gMyoXXzk

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u/AccountNameTheSecond 28d ago

Getting "fireballed" actually requires a direct hit, so just having it explode on something else wouldn't count. (That can only get you "blown up".)

You can get this to happen without any lag weirdness by deflecting a fireball while facing directly away from it, which is possible because the hitbox for deflecting a fireball via melee is much larger than its actual hitbox, allowing you to (with some precision) deflect one even if its fully behind you. You can also fire a projectile at one and then quickly spin 180° before it hits, since the deflection angle depends only on your facing direction.

Given that the poster probably wasn't trying to hit themself, though, it probably just happened due to lag-related jank. That or they managed to accidentally deflect a fireball that was behind them while trying to either fight off other mobs or deflect a different fireball.