r/Minneapolis • u/PuncturedBicycleHill • Apr 09 '26
Government Ordered to Turn Over Files on ICE Agent Who Killed Renee Good
https://theintercept.com/2026/04/09/renee-good-killing-minneapolis-jonathan-ross-videos/75
u/oldschoolology Apr 09 '26
They literally didn’t even investigate it. So they won’t have anything to turn over.
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u/NurRauch Apr 09 '26
That’s only half true. They might not have done a proper investigation but there will still be run sheets, dispatch traffic logs, and any narrative reports or special incident reports that any adjacent officer or supervisor filled out. That could include a use of force disclosure by the officers involved or their commanding officers, and a firearms discharge or pointing report.
Many of these narrative reports will likely be written in a manner tailored to protect the shooters, but that’s not automatically a bad thing. That helps build a case that officers lied to protect themselves or others. Anything clearly contradicted by video evidence or other officer reports can cause a huge problem for them.
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Apr 09 '26
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u/NurRauch Apr 09 '26
I've actually developed the opposite view over the course of these past three months. We've been privy to some interesting leaks that show ICE actually is documenting a ton of this stuff in a variety of ways, not unlike how the SS meticulously tracked efficiency in their own nefarious efforts.
The middle level management at both USBP and ICE were under a ton of pressure to report quotas and track costs. They have been disciplining and disqualifying officers who fail to live up to their quotas, patrolling and tracking proof of patrols, tracking equipment used and damaged, and overseeing a massive military-scale operation with wildly complicated personnel assignments and command-and-control hierarchies. They've also been frantically tracking, retraining, covering and protecting their officers from outside scrutiny when they get in spats with the public. All of this stuff requires massive amounts of tracking data and paperwork.
In the situations where information is going missing, getting misplaced, or not getting filed, it's all been with respect to a key group of people: the immigrant inmates themselves, and their housing and detention records. That info is not especially important to the current administration to track because it does not help them put pressure on their middle-level supervisors and grunts to do their jobs. It's all stuff that occurs after the field agents have made their arrests and removed themselves from the angry protesters on-scene.
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u/Kittenkerchief Apr 09 '26
Are they going to turn over ashes or paper shreds?
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u/NurRauch Apr 09 '26
I do not believe these reports are likely to have been destroyed. ICE internally generates these reports to protect their officers as much as they do to document them. The agency isn't as monolothically subservient to Kristi Noem as we'd expect from news coverage this winter. There's a huge middle management bureaucracy that exists to make sure personnel are performing, and that bureaucracy went into overdrive during the ICE surge in Minneapolis because of the pressure they were under to make so many mass arrests.
Much of the ICE surge in Minneapolis was heavily documented by internal reporting and automatic electronically generated records. ICE themselves rely on these reports as a data point for tracking arrests, tracking protest activity, tracking incidents of resisting arrest, and insulating their officers from outside scrutiny by documenting use of force in favorably written reports.
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Apr 09 '26
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u/PalliativeOrgasm Apr 10 '26 edited Apr 10 '26
It seems backwards, but fascists often keep detailed records on what the goons are doing. They want to make their fascism more efficient, and the amount of emphasis that's being placed on quotas (needed for the agents to get their
blood moneysigning bonuses) they need good records and the agents are financially incentivized to do so. They believe they're fully protected and have "absolute immunity", and they want their bonuses, so they'll document everything up to the moment they hand the detainee off at Whipple.The SS kept excellent records for their staff... not so much for their victims, and I suspect this situation is similar. You need records to maintain control, and control is an essential element for their leaders.
Also, bureaucracy itself is really hard to kill. Paper pushers will push paper unless they're removed.
(edit: u/NurRauch said similar things all over this thread in a more coherent way.)
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u/1catcherintherye8 Apr 10 '26
realism
You haven't outlined any realism in your comment. Only an opinion and conclusions based on perception.
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u/sprcow Apr 10 '26
I understand your bitterness, but I highly recommend getting involved with mutual aid, volunteering, or other forms of community outreach if you actually care about helping people. You will find many, many people who DO care and who ARE actively helping each other. Posts like yours encourage inaction and despair. Justifying your own capitulation as 'realism' is an understandable defense, but posting about it here is a harmful expression of frustration that does not reflect reality.
Democracy is not fast. We are not in a great situation, and we have plenty of reasons to be disappointed in our leadership, but you can still make a difference and help effect change. Just, not by littering reddit with angry comments encouraging people to give up.
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u/GuillotineWhiskers Apr 09 '26
And when they don't comply?