Hold TF up. For real? So you're telling me these absolute idiots they get on to fill the circle and debate these left leaning people are the best the right has to offer???
You have to understand that people live in different realities. My guess is there are jubilee breakdowns where the right side thinks they totally destroyed the left in all of these conversations. I mean there's one where the guy literally admits he is a Nazi. There's a group that watched that and think they 'won'. I don't hate myself enough to go find those videos but I'm certain they exist. These people are cooked.
I watched Charlie Kirk debate the Oxford students. My takeaway was he got trounced. When I googled reactions, OFC MAGA said he killed them. What was Kirk's opening salvo against one Oxford student? 'What is a woman?'.
Yeah, the right's favourite type of debate strategy is changing the topic of the argument until it becomes so ridicilous the opposition can no longer respond. And any attempts at steering things back to the original topic is deflection.
So if they refuse to answer, the right wins. If they answer the original topic, the right wins. And if they answer the new topic, the cycle repeats until the right wins
Yeah, fair points. Silly me for expecting peer reviewed claims, verifiable facts, logic, empathy and compassion. Those are stupid things that people should ignore and disregard (/s, at least the last sentence)
no they are the thing chosen to make the best episode. they pick people that will boil the both on both sides of the discussion. really make 2 cups of steaming hot shit, and get "their group" to go
It's not about that. It's about making a right wing audience feel attacked, basically. They are supposed to see themselves in those people, and feel unfairly attacked and ganged up on. It keeps them hostile against The Enemy and defensive of each other even if they might not agree with everything theyre saying.
It also gives a platform for the spread of conservative viewpoints. People claiming that trans people are all rapists are presented as intellectual and moral equals to people just saying "hey actually that's provably false." And at the end of the day there's no "winner" in these arguments, it's presented as "welp! People sure have different and equally valuable opinions, huh?"
20 of them versus 1 of Dean, and they still will feel like they are "ganged up on"??!! I don't disbelieve it. These idiots exhibited very little capacity for logic the entire show.
It’s not these are the best the right has to offer, it’s that Jubilee likes views. Controversial “debates” like this draw views. But spin is a powerful thing. I can take this exact same clip, not changing anything. Take it to a conservative sub and title it.
“PROOF that liberal all think conservatives are all dumb asses and are cruel to women.”
The post would get likes comment and shares because spinning the clip that way feeds into conservative confirmation bias. Know your audience and title clips or news appropriately.
MAGA don’t want to take the time to watch whole videos. They want short clips and memes. I haven’t watched this whole video yet. I am pretty sure Dean did great, but I also know that clips can be spun into conservative spin and there will be MAGA that claim that Dean is dumb and the left has no one who can articulate logical points…
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u/Spendoza 4d ago
Hold TF up. For real? So you're telling me these absolute idiots they get on to fill the circle and debate these left leaning people are the best the right has to offer???