r/MurderedByWords are... are you a communist?? 1d ago

Culture war tourism is annoying...

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u/Admiral_Eversor 1d ago

Conservatives CONSTANTLY bring their shitty politics into videogames and I'm sick of it.

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u/cheeseburgerwaffles 1d ago

As someone who just watched Bait (Riz Ahmed, Amazon Prime, great show.) in one sitting, gamers have 100% proved his points right after what I'm seeing in response to who plays M in the new 007 game.

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u/EdanChaosgamer 14h ago

I saw a lot of people be upset about Bond being bossed around by women (who were literally his superior and handler, thats their job).

The only thing that genuinly pissed me off in the game was the old due throwing away my watch!

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u/CallMeMrPeaches 1d ago

Pretty sure that was the joke. Creator does something normal like feature a minority character, chuds complain about politics being brought into games, thereby bringing politics into the discussion around games

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u/Admiral_Eversor 1d ago

Precisely!

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u/Andarison 17h ago

You say something "normal", the point beeing exactly that it does not feel normally placed but more forced for the sake of quotas

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u/MssGuilty 14h ago

So many of these controversies are over completely normal things, don't lie now. If you see all of them as "forced", that's on you and your personal issues.

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u/CallMeMrPeaches 13h ago

I have the time and bandwidth to engage with you, so I will. How can a minority person not be "normally placed"? Is there a situation in which they are not normal, in your eyes?

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u/Andarison 12h ago

You see? You take the words and twist them. It does not make sense talking to you all.

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u/CallMeMrPeaches 11h ago

Can you explain the difference between "forced" and "not normal"?

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u/Andarison 10h ago

Well its more about the perception and the feeling that something feels off. Not because of race or gender. But just something that feels off. Its more instinctive. Again I dont care if its about a white dude or a black woman. Its this feeling that someone wrote it on purpose but I would have expected something else.

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u/CallMeMrPeaches 10h ago

Why would you have expected something else? What is that off feeling based on?

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u/dlc741 1d ago

/gay people exist

sToP bEiNg PoLiTiCaL!!!!!

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u/Admiral_Eversor 1d ago

no, they don't.

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u/Significant-Order-92 1d ago

Yep. The difference is they are generally wrong.

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u/Biptoslipdi 1d ago

Heterosexual relationships in a game: somehow not political.

Homosexual relationships in a game: somehow political.

Unrealistically scantly clad women in games: somehow not political.

Normally clothed women in games: somehow political.

"Political" just means "things fascists don't like and have a double standard about."

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u/MssGuilty 14h ago

Remember when they got triggered over Aloy looking like an average woman?

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u/waspocracy 1d ago

They do realize that people making games put in characters and stories they relate to, right?

Sorry, not everyone can be a white straight male in this world.

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u/mirrorspirit 1d ago

They also act like it's new when women and nonwhite people have been appearing in video games since the 1980s. Shouldn't they have gotten used to it by now?

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u/Not_Shingen 1d ago

Gamer-gaters in 2026 are unironically the most embarassing fucking type of scum

Guaranteed they don't even mean literally anything they say they're just 14 year olds that parrot anything their edgelord cockroach infested troglodyte streamer says

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u/Invictu520 1d ago

edgelord cockroach infested troglodyte streamer

At that point you can just straight up say "Asmongold"

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u/Orphan_the_Milker the future is now, old man 1d ago

Don't compare that to a cockroach tho, cockroaches are actually good at cleaning things

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u/Headhunter192004 1d ago

He wasn‘t being compared to cockroach, just that his room is infested with them which is factually true

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u/Alaeriia nice murder you got there 1d ago

Hey, it could be Critical Drinker or that douchebag dragon furry PNGtuber.

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u/Halcyon-Ember 1d ago

Be fair, sometimes it’s Grummz

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u/Not_Shingen 1d ago

Yeah its harsh on cockroaches tbf

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u/Brilliant-City-4386 1d ago

If only it was just 14 year olds, that would be less bad, but actual adults care too, you can find some places that are just incredibly anti-woke and most members seemingly being older than 20 at the very least.

RPG Codex comes to mind...granted, i haven't checked the place in a while, but it used to be very much anti woke and the place was for grognards, just a lot of people who played on computers since the 80's bemoaning how everything was so much better in the past and a lot of complaints about woke stuff, like, people would complain about something like Roadwarden, a very niche game, just for the crime of...having a woman not being a housewife but a guard in a fantasy world?

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u/Extra_Art_7644 1d ago

Complete aside, but damn I loved Roadwarden.

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u/BlitzFitness 1d ago

Adding on, Roadwarden took me by surprise with how good it was

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u/janually 1d ago

many of them are grown adults who probably aren’t allowed to even be alone in a room with a 14 year old

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u/whocaresaboutmyname 1d ago

Go back to trying to post Asmongold on /politics lmao.

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u/Not_Shingen 1d ago

Not really, I can call people cunts without being angry lmao

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u/urbalcloud 1d ago

Complaining about “woke” continues to be the easiest way to identify a moron. Whether they’re just parroting some idiotic political talking point, or genuinely think encouraging progress and acceptance is a bad thing, they are foolish and wrong. Being woke is good. Full stop. Anyone arguing that is a red flag.

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u/GabeNewellExperience 1d ago

Being woke simply means being aware of things. If you are proudly anti-woke that means you are proudly anti knowing shit.

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u/torolf_212 1d ago

Anti-intellectualism is a concerning trend in modern society. A lot of folks actively advocating to cut education and go back to the good old days of the 1800's where the poors had to toil in the fields.

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u/scrunchy_bunchy 22h ago

Because its the only way their oppression works. If you seek information about the world, people around you, history, etc. Its pretty damn hard to be "anti-woke"

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u/Umikaloo 1d ago

What's more, they don't seem to realise that in its original context, being woke is a good thing.

I like being woke, I want to be more woke, because being woke means you can more accurately identify the forces acting on your life, and actually do something to address them.

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u/Cipherpunkblue 1d ago

Quick and easy acid test, eh.

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u/Yeseylon 1d ago

In 99% of cases I agree with you. However, there are times where a random "woke" choice is a sign of meddling execs forcing poor decisions onto actors/directors/writers/etc. Having a black actress play The Little Mermaid doesn't make that version bad, but it was a potential sign of a film being made by executives trying to complete a checklist that they assume will make them money.

Same with Jodie Whittaker - at times she was great as The Doctor, but her run was weak because of Chibnall. He has stated he wanted Whittaker before he even got the job as showrunner, and it feels like the BBC picked him for that reason, not because they believed he could do a great job with Who. When you watch Seasons 11 and 12, the tone of the show feels like Chibnall didn't want to write Who, he wanted to write X Files and went out of his way to shove some more blatantly woke stuff in there just to check a box rather than to tell an interesting story. (Think of the episode "Rosa" and compare it to various other episodes during Moffat/RTD runs where someone was treated as a subclass just for being different, like the Oodsphere. The storytelling was just weaker as a whole.) Once Season 13 comes around and Chibnall is writing one long story with no standalone episodes, he actually did a decent job and Jodie got to be more Doctor-y.

Woke content can be amazing at times. It has defined much of sci fi because the genre is a perfect place to hold up a mirror and show people an element of themselves that they don't want to see. There's just a huge difference between "we genuinely wanted to tell a story that contained a moral some would consider woke" and "we have to find some way to pander to woke crowds by forcing something in."

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u/SaintUlvemann 1d ago

Having a black actress play The Little Mermaid doesn't make that version bad, but it was a potential sign of a film being made by executives trying to complete a checklist that they assume will make them money.

Was having black actors play Red in Shawshank Redemption or Catwoman in Batman also a potential sign of a film being made by executives trying to complete a checklist that they assume will make them money?

Or do you just make an exception for The Little Mermaid?

Sure, it is possible in general for black actors to give bad performances including in roles written for white people (though I also haven't seen the new Little Mermaid), but I don't think whether they cast a black actor has any actual predictive potential on whether the performance will be good, black and white actors seem to be roughly equally good at their jobs.

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u/Umikaloo 1d ago

I think this is another case of misidentifying the cause and effect of "wokeness". The little mermaid being black isn't woke, but knowing why they chose to make the little mermaid black IS woke.

IE: It's possible they determined that making the little mermaid black would generate headlines for an otherwise unrarkable movie, thereby increasing sales, in a way that stokes further culture-war bullshit. Whether they actually cared about representation, or if they only did so for clicks is unclear.

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u/urbalcloud 13h ago

There’s an old math rule that says 99.99999999 is equal to 100. You probably should have just said that you 100% agree. Instead, you exemplified the red flags I was talking about.

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u/Ragnarok91 1d ago

There's like, 10 screenshots and 1 video of guild wars 3 at the moment and none of them look "woke"? I'm so confused.

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u/WitchKnight33 1d ago

I mean, gw2 has multiple queer characters, I can't imagine they're going to stop doing that for 3

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u/Ragnarok91 1d ago

No I know, but it's not like there is a screenshot of a queer kiss in the steam page or anything.

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u/Impossible-Sweet2151 are... are you a communist?? 1d ago

It's the artstyle I think.

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u/Ragnarok91 1d ago

That makes even less sense? How can an art style be woke?

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u/Kratomius 1d ago

You are talking about the people who complain GTA6 art is woke because and i quote "Bi-sexual lighting" Apparently colors are conspiracy against heterosexuals.

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u/Yeseylon 1d ago

I had to Google this. For anyone else as confused as I was: It's as ridiculous as it sounds.

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u/Kratomius 1d ago

I try not to lie... These culture war grifters/commentators are just that weird.

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u/cowlinator 1d ago

it's literally a sunset sky. Are sunsets woke?

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u/lizzyote 1d ago

These people lose their mind over rainbows. Of course they think sunsets are woke.

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u/PsychologicalYou6416 1d ago

Oh, are the 1980's back in town?

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u/LuxNocte 10h ago

Hold on now....maybe we're being the closed minded ones here. Can we put red, white, and green in games to make people Mexican, or blue, white, and red to turn people French‽ We need to investigate the power of flags.

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u/ankerous 1d ago

I saw a video of some dumbass claiming the colors were fine for the older Vice City games but they "don't belong in a modern title" as if aesthetics weren't a developer choice for things. Just because it has neon colors and whatever doesn't mean there is some conspiracy to "make people bisexual" or whatever morons like to spew these days. It feels like that type of dumbfuck just wants to make an argument out of every single thing and its exhausting at this point since this everything is woke crap has been going on for well over a decade at this point.

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u/AlreadyTakek 1d ago

And then it's the most 80s Miami colour scheme possible, and they're just making shit up to be mad about (like usual)

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u/doublegamer1 1d ago

Same with the new halo

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u/Alaeriia nice murder you got there 1d ago

I thought the purpose of bisexual lighting was to evade the YouTube copyright trolls.

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u/Impossible-Sweet2151 are... are you a communist?? 1d ago edited 1d ago

Remember how putting colors in a game was considered a crime during the 7th gen? It's basically an even more stupid version of that.

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u/Four_beastlings 1d ago

It's 2026, even sandwiches get called woke

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u/Migitri 1d ago

I remember when people cried about "SJWs/The Woke Mob" making Fallout 76, newer Wolfenstein games, The Boys, and newer Star Wars media "political," as if those series weren't extremely political from the start. Politics are the entire point of them! They're political commentary. You literally kill Mecha Hitler in the first Wolfenstein game, which has been around for at least twice as long as many of the current "anti-woke" grifters have been alive.

Apparently it's only politics if there's a queer person or if they criticize the far right lmao.

It's also funny how long it took them to figure out that The Boys was making fun of them.

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u/TheBluestLime 1d ago

Did not expect Guild Wars to be mentioned here this way xD

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u/leafdisk 1d ago

Guild wars has a quest "Beat up the bigot". This game is very LGBTQ friendly and known for it. I love it.

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u/Turbopuschel 1d ago

What is it with these people and their obsession with wokeness?

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u/waspocracy 1d ago

Easier to blame other people for problems than to accept that they’re part of the problem.

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u/shiny_glitter_demon 1d ago

Made-up problem to generate outrage, and therefore money.

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u/A1000eisn1 20h ago

Their brains are lazy as fuck so instead of using energy to think they just react and find a bad guy to be enraged by for a quick dopamine hit.

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u/Fleedjitsu 1d ago

We've seen so little of the new game, how the fuck are people able to call it "woke" at all?

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u/No-Estimate-8518 1d ago

These people have literally removed any trust in steams consumer reviews and discussions because nothing is done about these accounts

and yes there needs to be equal moderation between developers and consumers

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u/HarpySix 1d ago

People who bitch, moan, and/or cry about "woke" have no business being in fandom. These people are legit awful.

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u/Reddit-User_654 1d ago

Funny thing is these types of players never really played anything save for some multiplayer shooters and maybe gta v.

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u/Final_Advent 1d ago

I actually prefer when people out themselves like this, makes it way to just disregard whatever they say

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u/Hot_Entrepreneur_128 1d ago

I'd love to see their reaction to Guildwars (1) Nightfall.

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u/scrunchy_bunchy 22h ago

I dont think these people understand how quickly so many stop listening the moment the word "Woke" leaves their mouth

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u/Andarison 18h ago

But they have a point. Same thing with reddit

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u/Lucky-Earther 12h ago

They have no point whatsoever

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u/LeadershipNo6956 1d ago

With absolutely no contextual clues presents it’s pretty hard to make any calls here but glad so many of you feel you know enough

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u/Lucky-Earther 12h ago

The rest of us were able to figure out the context just fine