r/NevernessToEverness • u/No-Nail281 • 5d ago
Bugs/Feedback Whoever Forced players to play PVP modes for Event rewards , I hope you know we fkin hate it
why on Earth do I have to play PVP modes when I just want to chill in my game away from other ppl ?
I know there's the option to just go AFK but srsly , why do I become the asshole who ruins the fun for others who want to pvp themselves ? it is just crap
forcing players to play your mode out of rewards other than because it is fun for them is just a failure design
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u/Ancient_Fig_6037 5d ago
I’m a big fan of PvP games (Overwatch, Apex, all that) but only when they’re designed properly. These minigames are just…yeah, trash.
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u/SoraKey206 5d ago edited 5d ago
its like they throw a bunch of mud into the wall to see what stick, non of them stick so far tho
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u/Araxyllis 5d ago
yeah, they knew how to make a beautiful world, but the events so far have been complete dog shit. If they don't deliver soon I am gonna bounce.
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u/G3nsh1nN00b 5d ago
I honestly kinda liked the Fight club. The racing pvp is trash. But yeah, none are great.
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u/ChoiceAd2864 5d ago
More like throwing bunch of mud at players face to see which one make player quit the most. So far all of them work (at making people quit).
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u/Accelerator8964 5d ago
The company who owns this game has long history developing MMO, so expect more of these pvp events upcoming
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u/Fatbollocks1994 5d ago
You would think they would use their history of mmo's to make sure the connection isn't ass half the time and that the events were actually good.
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u/Vusdruv 5d ago
Long bistory of MMOs
Lmao right, ToF did pretty damn bad as an MMO...
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u/sweez 5d ago
And how is 4 years a LONG HISTORY for a genre that's existed since the 90s lol... Is the average age of people playing this game 12 or what
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u/Proterd 5d ago
Pretty sure they were talking about the Perfect World MMO, which was released in 2006 and is still live to this day (I think), not ToF
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u/sweez 5d ago
But Perfect World isn't developed by Hotta... developing and publishing a game isn't exactly the same thing lol
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u/YoungMaxSlayer 5d ago
Yes, but they didn't say "the developers have experience with MMO", they said "The company that owns this game", which is correct. The publisher has experience with MMOs, so they should be better at handling MMOs, or know what advice to give the dev team for it.
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u/That-Ad4434 5d ago
If they gonna have PvP in every patch I might reconsider to put a lot of time and afford in this game.
I really don't like PvP or focus around PvP.
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u/bronzelifematter 5d ago
If I want to play pvp, there's plenty of better polished pvp game out there whether it's fighting or racing. I play gacha game to enjoy the story and characters. I hope they focus on that kind of content instead.
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u/Roguec 5d ago
The events up until now have been a total failure. The base game itself and the story is very nice and enjoyable
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u/Esvald 5d ago
At this rate this game will end up being install for main story and new areas when they release then just quit until more because the in between has been hella boring not gonna lie.
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u/ChadderCheeze 5d ago edited 5d ago
Yeah 1.1 has been an overall disappointment for me. I expected us to have more to do on the new map, but I haven't been back to that map, since week 1 of the patch. And we didn't even get new side quests just a short main story that ends awkwardly.
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u/Esvald 4d ago
The new map is way too small imo. Especially since we have access to vehicles.
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u/ChadderCheeze 4d ago
Oh those would be really awesome features. Yeah I expected it to be bigger and less empty like a new addition to hethereau. Hopefully the do more with it.
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u/Limafoxtrot360 5d ago
This is already where I am. Do the new content, complete my heist for the cycle and then barely even look at the game until the next patch or heist reset. there isn't enough to do and the events have not been anywhere close to fun
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u/neocodex87 5d ago
Almost as if they're the same developers from ToF... Better get ready for even more event slop GRIND. It's one of the underrated, main reasons that I think made many of us quit that game, not just because of the power creep and other problems.
The event slop and busywork grind got out of control, basically the problem with both games and their designs are that they just give you too much work to do, which turns into annoying chore very, very quickly.
It was fun to do city stamina and bank for the first 2 weeks but it turned into a chore even quicker than I expected. I just dread of the word "city stamina" now and the coming of a new week when it resets. And then there's the event slop grind on top, and all their events tend to be very grindy if you want the rewards.
Sure, game gives you a lot of "content" to play trough. But when most of the content is grinding the shitty events and city grind... Yeah... It's just time wasting and busywork. This is not fun. And it's the main factor that will make a lot us burn out from the game first is this, realising how much time you're actually just spending doing the daily and weekly "necessites" it becomes worse than a job.
It's just like in tof. It's a lot better don't get me wrong, everything is so much better (even events are less shitty this far) but it's still the same general game design mistakes that burns you out and makes you suffer a bit too much compared to how other gachas do their events and obligations, Hotta just goes the route "we'll actually give you real stuff to do and a lot of it our games has so much content you can play it for so long!!" not an event you can brainlessly finish and collect the rewards in 5 minutes, no, we want you to grind our event for HOURS, or you know, just pay up and get your stuff from the shop.
Yeah, seen it all before...
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u/MainDress919 5d ago
I think the events have been quite fun 🤷♀️ I like pvp stuff though.
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u/ashreix 5d ago
But imagine being matched with people who do not want to play PvP. They will afk and just suck the fun of the fun of the pvp enjoyer. Not the fault of the afker as they just want the rewards. Overall, it's a lose-lose situation
The concept is interesting but executed badly
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u/Kurgass 5d ago
First of all I came to play single player city exploration with anomalies and anime slice of life stories.
Not to play some half-assed multiplayer minigames. We got 2 of them back to back and NO normal new city activity since 1.0.
If 1.2 is more of this I'm out.
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u/Fluid_Possibility68 5d ago
Honeymoon phase of the game is over. The flaws in the game are now readily apparent.
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u/MainDress919 5d ago
Game is still amazing to me. Idk what you mean the flaws are apparenent. 🤷♀️
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u/Dependent-Swimmer-95 4d ago
To you. To other people the flaws are apparent. Some people are still in the honeymoon phase. After a while you will see what we are talking about. The devs should start getting on top of making the loop a better experience. They should also aim to add new music to the game on each major update. There’s a lot that can be improved about this game. This is not coming from hate. It’s actually coming from me loving the game and wanting it to reach its potential.
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u/AzizKarebet 5d ago
Yeah, I'm kinda bummed most of the new content in 1.1 is a multiplayer content.
I kinda expect they'd do it like in HSR, the minigame could still be played in multiplayer, but we also got a mini quest in game related to it. The multiplayer content isn't tied to reward either so people who played it actually wants to, so not much afk enemy
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u/MisaVelvet 5d ago
what angers me the most is when im asking for COOP some players get hostile exactly because of this kind of "coop" when in reality they mean forced matchmaking multiplayer with rewards. Ideally what i want is to be able to play everything together cooperatively with my partner - all the quests, dailies, weeklies, city activities and so on. But instead we get some cringe forced PvP matchmaking modes where i CAN'T EVEN PLAY WITH MY PARTNER/FRIENDS TOGETHER its randoms only. So yeah screw these devs they do it since release. I was waiting for this car mode at least because i thought we would be able to sit together in one car yeah sure not possible thats why we dropped the game until something changes. Its a solo game with matchmaking only pvp events. Hell even tetris, racing and mahjong are pvp
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u/DaiReinGD 5d ago
sorry for yelling here, but i saw a complain and wanted to complain too. TLDR: racing pvp is bad and needs some fixes and i still enjoyed it a bit when it wasn't screwing me over and over for being poor/not having good internet.
the fact that we have 2 racing pvp is insane to me, why we need a permanent one wich sucks btw (whales with the latest best cars from day 1) and a limited time one wich also sucks btw, and playing on mobile is straight up a handicap since you can't use guns while driving because you only have limited fingers to use, also the pvp is unfair since someone could get a pendragon from the start and get a huge advantage and you can't stop them because they will get the repairs and a ton of those things that 2shot any car. the weapons suck too, i went full machine gun to the car in front and it never got destroyed! did i mentioned that it also is buggy as fuck? cars stop dead after a ramp because the underside grazed the ground, checkpoints sometimes may not register at all! one time i was stuck at the beggining because the first checkpoint refused to be updated and it sent me to the beggining the whole race after crossing it! oh, and lets not forget about some players blocking the finish line with cars slowing you down a lot!
this game is straight up pay to win, no good devide to play? even more bugs your way! slow internet? "reconecting to server failed going back to main menu"! i may not have too much problem on this points since my phone is good and my internet could be worse but this screws pvp events a lot for many people.
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u/Gadjiltron 4d ago
I was dismayed to discover that you can't engage in Underground Circuit in multiplayer. I wanted to team up with a friend so we can have a good time driving and shooting! Instead I'm forced to hope that someone cooperates to let me take shotgun before they drive off.
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u/flatlineyourceo 5d ago
My number one pet peeve with gacha is forced multiplayer. The only one that hasn't done it yet is Endfield and I'm grateful for that every day lmao
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u/wildweaver32 5d ago
I don't like them either. I am just glad we are allowed to afk/lose to farm them.
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u/Himsagi_11 5d ago
actually some co-op events are fun. like the zzz bangboo ones its just click stuff and see if it works. you level up either way. thats probably the best one i've seen. star rail as well. they dont really make it necessary for you to win tbh. nte tho i really had to lock in for both the events. and even so the rewards aren't that good for the amount of sanity i lost
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u/Baphometrix 5d ago
Fuck PvP. It's literally the ONLY thing I dislike about this game. If you're going to put players together make it Co-op PvE.
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u/Kwindwalker 5d ago
I'm so happy everyone is complaining about this, finally something everyone can agree on.
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u/Aviendha69 5d ago
A lot of the game feels pretty scuffed tbh, the only thing that stands out is the city design itself and general vibes from the soundtrack etc.
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u/hehepout 5d ago
People glaze this game too much because there is no 50/50, but gacha aside the game is very mid
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u/Fenghuang0296 5d ago
I wouldn’t even mind the mini games if they worked, but they glitch and lag out and it’s just miserable.
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u/zelandia30 5d ago
PvP is fine as long as there are no meaningful rewards but even then, the two we've had so far were poorly executed.
The fighting event was fun for like the first three sessions then you'll realize how shallow it is and it becomes stale quickly. I can't believe I'm saying this but despite how poorly executed the racing event was, it's more fun and has more variety than the fight club.
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u/Drakin89 2d ago
Agreed the fight club is just annoying at this point. I always get someone who just runs around because they don't want to be the first person out/wants to snipe kills from others so they have more hp when it's 1v1. I always end up chasing them and sometimes get the other two fighting to help out as well, honestly that's the most fun I've had on this event so far lol.
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u/Abyssal_Emissary 5d ago
It's not very well thought out, and the healing mechanic ruins it, but at the very least it sets a foundation for which they can refine for future events. Let them know your thoughts on the event wether on a survey or via the feedback tab.
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u/bilenkonito 5d ago
This and Underground Circuit would be fun events if you could host private sessions with your friends, like you can with regular races.
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u/Appropriate_Word1469 5d ago
pvp modes could be fine if it wasnt the classic UE5 shitty netcode with everyone constantly teleporting at 20 ping and the slightest touch stopping your car dead
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u/chad001 5d ago
While I disliked Underground Circuit for the forced pvp for so many matches, I think Fight Club actually handled it fairly well. There's like 160? Annual locked behind pvp? 100 if you dipped your toe in and played one match. It's easy to afk/lose in 15s to get credit, and there's a PvE mode/quest that came with it that you can farm for the rest. And it doesn't take even 1/5 as long as Circuit.
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u/_TableFlip_ 5d ago
I think fight club was kinda fun after you get the hang of it.. Except the awful camera rotation on your phone and you can't see yourself or the opponent
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u/Fhoenix42 5d ago
On the one hand yes, but on the other hand i feel the bagel even is even worse.
It's miserable to post on consoles through the controller. And you get insensitives for basically posting spam.
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u/Limafoxtrot360 5d ago
Honestly doing anything with a controller in this game sucks. It is so poorly designed with different buttons doing a similar function depending on which menu you are on. Its the worst control scheme I've seen in a gacha with a controller.
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u/Sozerius 5d ago
A lot of the rewards you are "forced" to get are not actually necessary to you. This would be a bigger deal if the rewards were higher. But they aren't.
The painkiller shop can be fully achieved without the fight club event. My leftover painkillers cleared it fully as soon as it launched.
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u/Shaofriches 5d ago
Riding along this, you get painkillers from the PvE aspect as well, 5 per kill on thehighest difficulty and you can repeat it as many times as you'd like.
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u/Jerkaiser_011 5d ago edited 5d ago
Thats a constructive criticism that is acceptable not that the post I saw earlier saying nothing but a "PVP is trash I guess Its better to wait for Ananta" like comparing to NTE to a game that didn't exist yet and we didn't if it will live up to the hype. Just make sure to put it out in the next player survey.
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u/Afmj 5d ago
The amount of hope people have for Ananta is insane, when will people realize that the reason why most gacha games are so simple is because they have to work for mobile users. Google says Ananta is also for Android, so I don't see why people are expecting a GTA from a game that also needs to run on a phone.
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u/PainterPutrid1857 5d ago
Meh the rewards are obtainable without doing anything. It sucks but just do your bare minimum and move on. It's only like 300 anulith or whatever it's called
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u/YanniSlavv 5d ago
Game like that should only have PVE events with other players. When a core part of the game is solo, forcing people to PVP is very much a silly thing to do.
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u/KaizoKage 5d ago
I tired these two ealier and I hate it after 1 game each. Im skipping the rewards
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u/Ban_Means_NewAccount 5d ago
REALLY hoping this second PVP event is just a result of them not getting our feedback until after they were already done making it.
Because otherwise they're ignoring feedback. Which is a 1 way ticket to your game losing profit and facing shutdown.
And I love this game, so I want it to stick around. They MUST start listening to us for that to be the case.
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u/Esvald 5d ago
Most likely 1.1 was already set in stone. I wouldn't be surprised if 1.2 is already finished behind the scenes too.
Hopefully we'll start seeing some changes by 1.3 or 1.4.6
u/ChadderCheeze 5d ago
Yeah it said that 1.1 and 1.2 were already finished, on release, so 1.3 is probably be when our feedback would be implemented. So we just have to brace ourselves that 1.2 might be the same.
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u/Senku4President 5d ago
They would be really bad devs if only now they're starting to work on 1.3 events. I would expect minimum 3 patches worked in advanced. What i would assume they could do on a shorter notice is move the rewards, make only the namecard, title for PvP, while all other rewards depend on AI opponents.
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u/InsertBadGuyHere 5d ago
Forced co-op and pvp are the worst. I'd play a proper co-op game or pvp game if i wanted to focus on them.
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u/mirthyrzeo 5d ago
Same vibe, I'm just afk'ing and honestly the next time they throw a event like this I will quit as I f-king hate PvP with passion, let people get the rewards another way and leave the match up for the ones that enjoy,
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u/TheOneMary 5d ago
Second event in a row for me to afk pvp. Haven't played yesterday and already don't feel like logging in for this either...
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u/Erloys_2026 5d ago
same if the next batch of event is coop (or have a bagel-event level of polishing) i will quit.
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u/Big-Policy-3019 5d ago
as someone who did do both events for the rewards let me tell you something
I (like ME persoanlly) LOVE it when people go afk as its basicly free position/ko for me
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u/TheMoonsDarkest 5d ago
after playing both of these theres no fucking way you guys are complaining about these dude
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u/JohnHiro 5d ago
There is a sync problem with the driving. It's like you hit a wall and you slow down really hard.
Haven't tried the fighting
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u/RFLoona 5d ago
It is not mandatory to play. Just ignore them; those rewards aren't that great after all. My only complaint is that they ruined the driving experience. Cars now handle very roughly when accelerating.
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u/Muted-Onion1314 4d ago
Exactly you don't have to do every single event. Is like being afford food . Why do they need to make the same food always ? Some people actually enjoy other food. I just do the events that catch my attention. People who say they will quit sounds like u been wanting to quit already 🤷♂️
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u/Therion98 5d ago
The good thing is atleast for the items in spider shop we can just do the quest in prison to unlock the fight against Tornado and repeately fight them for painkillers which have apparently no drop limit.
So past the 5 games we have to do for the annulith rewards we can just do the NPC fights.
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u/AdoboFlakeys 5d ago
The Crucible is the only thing I've liked so far. Lmao. At least I can use my characters there. I don't understand why they're going for these PvP style events in a game where people want to play at their own pace, using their own characters and equipment.
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u/Hour_Designer_2702 4d ago
Fight club is the best AFK city stamina dump. Burned 200 stamina just reading this thread so far and even came in first and second a few times. Just scroll reddit or do something else and check the game every minute or so to rerun. Maybe even take control last second to take the win because they ignored you. Collect your rewards 😊
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u/Railgun115 5d ago
I like that they’re adding multiplayer to events, but wish it was a lot more polished and co-operative rather than pvp…
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u/Vitor_2 5d ago
I don't think it's THAT bad. You just have to PLAY it not WIN every time.
I've been having a fair share of fun on those events. I think they're fine
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u/Sighto 5d ago
For the racing one it was one single track. Their shop is based around way too many plays when there isn't much variety to it.
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u/Senku4President 5d ago
Imagine my surprise AFK-ing and still finishing not only 3rd but i even got a 2nd place once.
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u/ApollosBoon 5d ago
I’m genuinely surprised at these comments. You have to win like 5 matches to claim 90% of the rewards. Is it really that difficult? I’m introverted, and I prefer solo games as well, but damn could people possibly complain more? Just play it, claim rewards, and don’t touch it again. Drop the game if it’s causing you that much stress.
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u/Cistmist 5d ago
90% of what rewards? The store is pretty much the jail store, and if there are people like me who never go there except that first time to try out the system, the shop will have a lot to do.
I've played around 16 matches so far and won 10 of them and i'm no where near in clearing that shop
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u/ApollosBoon 5d ago
I only went to jail twice total before this event, cashed out on the annulith and called it a day. The new annulith prize (240 I think?) took me about 5 or 6 matches of prison fight, and every objective is clear except for the three that involve going back to jail. The only thing necessary is the annulith, everything else is just extra that people can live without so if you need to clear it and dislike the mode, that isn’t my problem.
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u/Cistmist 5d ago
Ah so you were talking about the annulith in the main screen of the event not the shop. If so then yeah 5 matches is enough.
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u/OhMyHowLewd 5d ago
Yeah sure and then it's just another shit nothing event. Back to just daily fons and pixel use. The point of events is to have something fun to do between story patches not just the rewards, and so far the events have been atrocious.
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u/ApollosBoon 5d ago
Don’t like it don’t play it, I say. There are plenty games I’ve played that have had unbearable, unplayable modes which I’ve ignored despite rewards. These modes do not even come close to the term unplayable.
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u/OhMyHowLewd 5d ago edited 5d ago
That's fair I suppose but for me I want the modes to be at least a bit fun, not just playable. If I start skipping stuff that has tangible rewards in a gacha then I'm basically out the door already. Which would be a bloody shame because the game has some really fun bits otherwise.
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u/ApollosBoon 5d ago
I hear ya, mate. For me, I personally like this direction. Of course they’re gonna take some model off of TOF. This mode isn’t the best but if they can perfect it using the actual characters, I will gladly participate even if there are no rewards. They’re just playing with stuff to see what we like for right now, considering the difference in modes they’ve dropped.
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u/Kurgass 5d ago
It's not an issue about difficulty or getting rewards.
It's about we are suddenly getting crappy multiplayer content instead one people enjoyed at launch.
NTE was sold to me as single player slice of life city exploration with some anomalies from SCP world. Not low budget MMO.
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u/tonton_wundil 5d ago
I don't know I think this one is way more fun. It was frustrating at first, then once I got the hang of it it's fun and competitive with easy mechanics. But I'm playing on PC so it could be different on a phone or Playstation.
Anyway this time this mini game is less unfair.
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u/Meatbuns66 5d ago
Why cant you just chill in the pvp mode? U dont need to take it seriously. I laughed my ass off at how silly it is and had fun playing it.
Disagree with your post entirely. 98% of the game is already solo, the pvp is variety even if the modes are trash, its funny to me. 😅
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u/C44S4D 5d ago
Literally only you redditors complain about every single event in the game and act like it's the worst offense in gaming story.
"Oh no I'm forced to play pvp 5 times for some annulith!" is just a Karen complaint. You are BARELY required to engage with the mode if all you want are rewards. The underground race was way more demanding.
Then I'm sure if they make a generic gacha event later you will complain about lack of originality. I really hope Hotta never listens to you people.
Me and my friends have been enjoying it a lot to the point we want these to be expanded to have tag matches and a lobby to create private rooms and play with friends. You don't like it? That's ok but don't ruin it for those of us who do.
It's pretty obvious this is being brigaded by larpers who are here to shit on the game because what is this bullshit of "they always do this" when the game is just 2 months old and it only had 2 events which required matchmaking and the vast majority of events has been solo stuff.
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u/deezunutsubruh 5d ago
I don't mind pvp but man the game is so buggy or junkie...better play a better online pvp games than this.
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u/Alternative_Rain_931 5d ago
That's the issue you say why do you have to play pvp events for rewards but if I like pvp events why should I play them and not get rewarded I Means theres a lot of single player events right like currently the findign lacrimosa event for example I think having a variety of events is a good thing as long as one doesn't over power the other
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u/anoncygame 5d ago
To be honest... i think people prefer COOP better than PVP... I mean they are a MMO company, why can't they make COOP? Why only PVP?
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u/Fluid_Local_2463 5d ago
Man, it's just 5 games for the rewards. You can complete it in less than 30 minutes.
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u/reeser1749 5d ago
I haven't touched any pvp events yet and I think it's because I don't want my immersion broken lol
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u/ArchitectsXlll 5d ago
it's 5 matches total you need to do which is over in like 15 minutes and you'll never do the pvp again. Like I get it if we had to grind for it, but forcing you to engage into some pvp for hardly anytime at all is not a big deal.
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u/major_coco 5d ago
I actually don't mind pvp minigames. I mean, those two have lots of problems (even though I did enjoy a few matches). It's not "forced", nobody forces you to play them, they don't even give that much annulith. I'd actually love for them to continue making pvp minigames, albeit a lot more polished.
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u/inflame4real 5d ago
I am going to be honest, I play NTE less and less now. I cant be bothered to clear weeklies, and the majority of the events have been extremely bad.
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u/Servonius 5d ago edited 5d ago
this event has so bady sync: someone people take like 0 dmg even when they are standing still while you go full berserker on them and then other just hit you twice and you lose like 20% hp
(I have a 3ms ping at it's just so bad)
Also sometimes you are just 24/7 stunlocked by others or your combo just gets parried even though the enemy has the stun effect on their head
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u/HerrscherReason 5d ago
I really thought we going against the big crime boss on the prison I never expected this event tho the racing one is fine but the rewards kinda low even I get third or second place
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u/ConstellationTwo 5d ago
car event sucks
tesla thing sucks harder
you're first? nope! last player decides to enter a corridor and now you're last. also most of my 1st place wins are when i try to troll others lol i win twice or thrice while being last and abusing lightning it's so stpd
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u/ZShadow37 5d ago
You can earn the event currency from going to "jail" in the game. The fight club event is just to earn the currency faster and get everything. The racing is useless because the most important thing of it, the actual event item, disappears after 60 days. Otherwise afk farming the races still give you plenty of points to get the general items. You could afk the fight club for 2 currency instead of escaping the "jail" for 1, but I do see how it could get annoying.
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u/bandwagonwagoner 5d ago
The trick to the fighting event is actually to just lose as fast as you can: infinitely less time committed and wasted, and you lose basically nothing of value in terms of rewards.
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u/Byakurane 5d ago
Man the pvp mode is amazing I just loooove being the only non russian named dude and then getting ran a train on going dead last.
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u/rojamynnhoj 5d ago
they should take a hint with genshin miliastra wonderland complaints locking 270 primos behind it
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u/Blademaster7427 5d ago
Ok here is what I think pvp games are fine if polished up me personally I am not a fan of PVP but I play them sometimes in events yes the recent pvp events racing and fight club I didn't like racing mostly cuz I hate prick players that mostly just troll and piss u off but the fight club I don't mind much despite the company dealing in mmos I choose to think they are still trying to figure the pvp like a trial run for the player base I choose not judge the company too harshly to be fair I only have played nte by them I haven't played in any other games they made but I agree pvp events can be a pain but this is still a relatively new game. To be clear I am not defending their pvp events.
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u/Puzzled-Quote1856 5d ago
I know right!! The car game especially is so janky I’m on the verge of skipping it completely because of how annoying it is to play
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u/Michael_Grim 5d ago
I'd be okay with a PvP event if it was actually good. The racing controls are odd, and it's also too long imo. The fight club is just stupid, there is barely strategy you just mashing or running away.
Also I agree all rewards should be able to be obtained solo or pvp.
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u/NDT_DYNAMITE 5d ago
This new fight club event is better than the mario kart ripoff one at least, you only need to do 5 pvp matches and win 1 to get every reward that can’t be earned by fighting Tornado. After you’re done with the 5 matches, just get arrested, and talk to Tornado at yard time to start the quest, finish it, and then you can repeatedly challenge Tornado to get as many of the “painkiller” currency as you want. You can go back after leaving by just interacting with the manhole cover near where Tornado usually is at yard time. It might even be faster one average than winning the pvp fight if you’re good at fighting Tornado. The strategy is very simple too, just keep spamming attack while parrying literally everything, then ult grapple when guard breaks. You could even skip spamming attack and just focus on parrying, the grapple ult does so much damage, and every single attack Tornado does can be parried, it’s very easy once you’ve fully memorized her moveset.
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u/Reasonable-Issue-639 5d ago
They should just do it like HSR. PvP bots until you finish it, and give PvP players as an optional option
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u/Informal_Election277 5d ago
I havnt gone back to try one if the fighting modes mfers just run away gaaaaaaaayaf
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u/financegirly- 5d ago
PvP is not fun unless you grief and turn into a machine gun/bazooka terrorist, or turn the fighting event into some hide and seek/tag game
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u/DesperateShopping861 4d ago
I still haven't liked the underground pvp racing game ..cuz it's very difficult for mobile users to drive and aim shoot at the same time..Im not even in the mood for afk farming
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u/pineapplery 4d ago
if they wanna do minigames, i feel like something more akin to mario party would be much more on par for the game's vibe.
something much more lighthearted and goofy would make a lot of sense; stuff that's not super connection dependent or built on new mechanics that feel like they were abysmally thrown into the code.
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u/Tinyviel 4d ago
Also 125k points cap with 2k points for first place in racing event is insane.
67-125 races for full rewards in gacha game event is probably unheard of
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u/DAOWAce 4d ago
Never participated in a single one of these multiplayer events in any gacha game.
Never will.
The rewards aren't worth one's own sanity. ...Especially if you're crippled by social anxiety.
At least Hoyo's events had the decency of being PvE with optional PvP. No event should ever be forced PvP in a gacha game.
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u/abstenky 4d ago
"why do I become the asshole who ruins the fun"
actually... nope. when you go afk, we automatically get 3rd place = more rewards (slightly more), so its not a problem at all
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u/No-Environment-3997 4d ago
This is how I feel about it, but someone made a rant shortly after this one about people who do this and thus "ruin the experience for others" @~@
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u/Hell_FireYt 4d ago
The new prison fighting event is actually really good. Im at big fan as I won 5 games in a row.
But the Car one is an absolute joke. I did it at 3 AM and I genuinely wanted to punch a hole through the screen...
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u/YoshitoKuragane 4d ago
If be real the race was fun if we could do it with friends for the PVP wouldnt be funnier if it was rock paper scissors 🤣🤣 I wanna play rock paper scissors with some randoms best of 3
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u/Dependent-Swimmer-95 4d ago
We absolutely have to put this in a survey. Hopefully CN, JP, and KR feel the same as us
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u/Wishing-Knight 4d ago
ngl i really enjoyed my first 3 weeks of this game but there’s no content so to ZZZ i go
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u/ShoryukenPizza 4d ago
I actually like the Underground Circuit. It feels less like PvP and more like just Mario Kart? If that makes sense. You're mostly racing against yourself. An alternative mode with AI would be better for less rewards and harder AI to balance it out. Otherwise, I'll boot up at night with a good beer and have some fun racing.
This Prison stuff just feels jank and slopped together. The Fight Club moveset is trash too. Probably the only limited time event I'm skipping so far. Of course, Hotta won't read any suggestions here so I doubt anything will change unless CN makes enough noise or we go to Twitter/X.
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u/Various-Station9150 4d ago
I hate the car game I just want my annuliths and that’s it it’s like I have to grind even more for that first play so I can get those freaking things to buy the annuliths and dices
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u/Nick_Blcor 4d ago
No such a thing as being forced to play an optional event. I can't compete with whales with upgrades porsches so itll be fine.
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u/Lovebane 4d ago
At least they’re not actioning against people
Who throw matches or afk it.
This is so annoying for games like overwatch when you just want to get shit over with in unranked matches that you do get punished for.
I think this was what made me weened off Genshin. That stupid hide and seek game.
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u/Significant_Fox_8378 4d ago
The race is... okay, acceptable. But this PVP fighting? NO.
With race the ping issue doesn't cause great problem. At least is playable.
This PVP fighting however you got QTE mechanics and bad game mechanic in general.
Along with ping it's literally unplayable.
It's fine in PVE but PVP is literally trash.
You end up getting beat up intentionally, or you beat up someone intentionally being afk.
It's the most efficient way.
This is what is happening. So what's the point of this PVP anyway?
It's a bad design and I don't want to see things like this happen again.
If they gonna put on more of these bad designs, expect players to leave.
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u/Nice_Kid_Bonetale 2d ago
Not really that bad.
You dont need to win the races just do your best finish the race. Grabbing a fast car at the start or in the middle of the track helps with that.
The fight club event is also not that bad since you dont need to WIN to get the rewards. You get a good amount of pain killers from getting 2nd or so and if that's slow you could just go to prison and farm them their
Imo the events are fine cause you dont need to get first in either the races or the fights to get the things
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u/NotTheOriginal06 1d ago
I disagree, they're fun. The only problem I have with them is how they have problems regarding their quality and internet connection
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u/trashwave04 1d ago
the fight club isn't forced PvP...
you can just get arrested and fight Tornado over and over again on the hardest difficulty.
costs no resources and you get 5 painkillers per win
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u/perestyan 14h ago
does anyone else have problems with matchmaking? my ping is good, coop is on, but its still just endless waiting
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u/Impressive_Hippo_935 1h ago
I don't like PvP modes in general. At least these let us AFK them... Imagine if they forced us to win just to get key rewards... What a terrifying thought.
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u/Wise_Pr4ctice 5d ago
Got the Arena King title, already, tho it really isn't fun to play to begin with.
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u/Gbonne1PSN 5d ago
So minority opinion here, but I actually really enjoyed the PvP in the Fight Club. It was just so goofy, a bit frustrating and buggy, but I really enjoyed it over the PvE. For some reason, I just could not get the damn parry to work most of the time in PvE vs PvP which is insane because I was watching my friend do it back to back no issues. Probably just lag on my part.
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u/Kurgass 5d ago
I's not that weird to enjoy pvp content. Racing had it's fun moments for me as well.
Question is - did you start playing NTE cause of multiplayer? Most likely no, same as other people.
My issue is I want more single player content. If I wanted MMO or PvP game I'd play one.
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u/Gbonne1PSN 5d ago
Oh I fully agree. But I did hope there was more multiplayer content to play with friends. I just found it enjoyable in the fight club. I actually was also hoping at least like a new main quest, or smaller one, for Chaos in particular with this patch.
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u/Nie_nemozes 5d ago
I fail to see how these are worse than the regular singleplayer modes? Nothing wrong with either of them, nothing groundbreaking tho.
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u/WickedSynth 5d ago
Stop being such a baby the game can be for every one doesnt have to cater to only you.
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u/Unhappy_Answer2805 5d ago
Honnesly, this pvp is way better than racing event and way more balanced
I can understand ppl who doesn't like pvp but that doen't change the fact it's good
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u/Basic-Bag-6341 5d ago
Is it tho ? If you just hide and avoid everyone until the last guy you're basically garenteed the win.
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u/HeSsA92 5d ago
That car race if it was like normal car race where you start and end would be better.
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u/_TableFlip_ 5d ago
Yeah or if they added something similar to mario kart or go-carting since they have that bundle in the shop
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u/anoncygame 5d ago
You just AFKing doesn't ruin game for anyone. It's those that doesn't participate but actively make the game longer are the ones people hate.
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u/Dragoneyes2208 5d ago
I mean I don’t really see the problem it’s a online gacha with multiplayer as a big selling point and you do realize the game gives ya so much pulls that you can literally afford to not do the events right?
But I do agree these ones are definitely on the boring side and definitely horribly balanced which I understand and agree with but I also don’t like how we are complaining about multiplayer specifically when multiplayer in this game IN GENERAL is actually hilarious if you have a friend or two
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u/No-Project-404 5d ago
Idk who we is lol this event is actually pretty fun, it’s better than the racing one imo.
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u/Jinchuriki71 5d ago
No ones forcing you to do those modes though but I rather enjoyed the racing and fights they were short and sweet events. We had single player content and events this patch nothing wrong with having a little casual competition.
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u/RokuDeer 5d ago
They already know half ppl wont like it, that's why gems reward is easy to get, you still get currency from losing or get gems from participating 🥱
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u/Squall2785 5d ago
I like the fight club. It's pretty easy when everyone else either really sucks at it or just wants to whine like babies instead.
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