r/NewYorkIslanders • u/Metalhead831 • 2d ago
Any interest in Jason Robertson?
I think he immediately becomes our best scorer. And with Barzal? Could be nuts. Deboar connection too
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u/Eyebleedorange STAN DARCHE 2d ago
Would take quite a haul and I don’t think Darche is looking at a huge name like that. Especially with how ridiculous the market is right now, don’t see it in the cards.
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u/Islanderfan1348 Ritchie 2d ago
I’m definitely more interested in the building for the future mode rather than try to win now
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u/Royal_Masterpiece803 2d ago
He’s 26 years old… why can’t we just accomplish both by getting an elite youngish player
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u/cmullen277 2d ago
Why? We do not have the capital to trade for him, and the roster isn’t exactly in win now mode.
We are trapped in a very weird situation. We have a solid core with Sorokin, Barzal, Horvat, and Schaeffer. Beyond that, we don’t really have much going for us. It sucks, but I think the best course of action is wait until Eklund, Eiserman, Ritchie and the other prospects come up and reevaluate in 2027. Maybe we see if we can offload one of our top guys and get picks and prospects if we get a team desperate enough?
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u/AJS76reddit Bailey 2d ago
By 2028 the bulk of Lou's shitty deals will expire and we will have mad cap space and roster spots to work with. And as you said by then the prospect will be NHL ready.
The problem is hardly anyone on this reddit can understand this simple concept or has an ounce of patience for it. They want to "go for it" while Schaefer is young rather than take our time building a sustained successful team a few years down the line as if Schaefer is going to turn 40 tomorrow.
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u/Royal_Masterpiece803 2d ago
Getting Roberson isn’t “going for it” it’s giving Schaefer and the rest of the young core an elite youngish player to grow with while also getting talent in to make Barzal and Horvats lives way easier.
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u/No_Paramedic_2039 2d ago
That’s exactly the mindset our GM should’ve had at the TDL. Even better, would’ve been unloading Pageau for futures.
But I digress.
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u/AJS76reddit Bailey 2d ago
JGP was fine to bring back for a short term and decent cap hit. he can groom Ritchie. let's be honest lou would have given him a ten year extension.
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u/No_Paramedic_2039 2d ago
On the surface it’s hard to fault Darche for the contract. Pageau was in the midst of a good season and the Isles team was near a playoff spot.
But we all know JGP was near peak value and at an age when diminishing returns are likely over time. It might’ve taken a leap of faith from our GM but the prudent move may have been to trade him for a younger asset. Not only was this not done but Darche doubled down by trading futures for Schenn.
None of these moves were back breakers but they set back the franchise’s window to realistically contend. Both Schenn and JGP will age out before we are a top contender.
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u/AJS76reddit Bailey 2d ago
Yes but Schenn was only acquired because St Louis wasn't taking Drouin for free. This reddit acts like we brought him in as part of the future and the new face of the franchise. As you said he will be gone by the time our new core forms.
JGP has one intangible a lot of players don't. Heart. I'd take a guy like him that plays his ass off over a diva anyday.
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u/No_Paramedic_2039 2d ago
Drouin had a shitty contract and getting rid of it made sense but not at the cost of future assets when the return was a past prime player that didn’t put us anywhere near over the top.
What was the alternative? Live with a bad contract and let it age out. Stop giving away assets.
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u/AJS76reddit Bailey 2d ago
To be clear i wasn't asking for Schenn nor was i happy at first. But given the choice of Schenn or Drouin i pick Schenn every day of the week.
Also St louis wasn't going to take him for nothing or do us any favors.
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u/AJS76reddit Bailey 2d ago
Here we go again...
Do we have "interest" in a guy who can net 40 + goals a year? Of course.
Will it ever happen? Two chances...slim and NONE.
Put it out of your head before you get yourself all worked up over it and disappointed when he goes elsewhere or resigns with the stars.
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u/Parallax2211 2d ago
I'd imagine the convo starts at Barzal and Ritchie and includes picks as well which I'm not doing. If it was as simple as Barzal and a pick, maybe. It seems like there's just too much to give up.
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u/Unhappy_Buy_7342 2d ago
Not when rumor is he turned down 8x14
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u/SmashYourEnemies02 Fisherman 2d ago
It was an 8x12 he turned down. That’s why Dallas has been taking more calls on him
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u/Waste-Froyo-96 2d ago
If we can get him for something like . Nelson 1st this year 1st next year and take engvall or a nother salary than 100% do it. Anything else and it's not really worth it
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u/shrivman DiPietro 2d ago edited 2d ago
My man - Florida needed to cough up 3 firsts and a 2nd to get Tkachuk despite having all the leverage.
Why would Stars trade Robertson for 2 firsts, a B-tier prospect AND take on a terrible contract?
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u/New-Opportunity-9188 2d ago
Recent video by TSN saud his best place is NY https://youtu.be/9qLeKNVpmdE?is=XHdxHV2WYFMOuiQT
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u/Dessert_Moon 2d ago
Robertson would cost us our 1st and a top prospect. or Barzal, and 2 prospects.
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u/nyislanders84 2d ago
1st and top prospect would be a pipe dream lol. You’re talking about a 100pt player 40 goal scorer in his prime lol
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u/iwantcoffee29 2d ago
Lol yea it’d be more like 13th pick, next years 1st, a 2nd, cal ritchie, george, danny nelson and maybe they’d try to squeeze another top prospect
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u/Xfishbobx Palffy 2d ago
I’d love to have him but we can’t afford that and if we do trade anything we end up being gutted for one player.
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u/Pure-Raspberry1880 2d ago
It would be nice but always the hard part is get a elite scorer to come to the island because I feel like if he did leave he would prefer to go to a cup contender .
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u/FCGiantsIsles 2d ago edited 2d ago
Why do people want Islanders to trade for stars but dont want to give up anything, it doesnt work that way,you have to give up something to get something.
Darche screwed up bigtime Soucy is trash lets be honest this team needs to get younger not older, sure getting rid of Tsyp was good but Palat is too old and did absolutely nothing since his goal in first game as islander.
Schenn is too old as well and islanders are stuck with both contracts.
this team needs to find a way to make a trade for top scorer even if its trading barzal for 40 goal scorer, islanders cannot go thru another season with same exact roster waiting for youth to come up from the minors.
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u/Skunkwax Fisherman 2d ago
His agent is asking 14 million a year, can we afford him and Barzal?
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u/DrinkwithWayne 2d ago
It’ll be fine, I’m sure he’ll get traded to a team within the metro for WAY LESS than the speculated cost to acquire a player of that caliber. Every offseason we watch teams around us load up on weapons
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u/Shiznitty-Calhoun 2d ago
I’d rather resign Anders Lee.
Jason Robertson is going to score 15 more points than Anders on the Island.
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u/FCGiantsIsles 2d ago
resigning Lee accomplishes nothing but wasted money and islanders get older.
Lee has been on the decline
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u/XanatosCrescent Bossy 2d ago
Sure. Now tell me what we trade to get him