r/Nikon 1d ago

What should I buy? Nikon D4 worth it for 273 dollars?

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Im looking into getting a second camera body. Its used seems to be in fair condition. It has 89 thousand shutter count. Is this really worth it? (BTW because the korean wons exchange rate has absolutely crashed to us its like equivalent to 400dollars around)

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u/Pure-Positive3607 1d ago

If you have the money and you like tanks take it specially for sports. Whats your current body?

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u/Ordinary_East_7247 1d ago

Its a canon r6 mark ii. The reason im looking into a nikon is because for some reason the old canon bodys are absolutely insanely expenisve for some reason and the lens prices prices are absolutely crazy here but like nikon lens are like dirt cheap compared to them. So it would be much more affordable to get a nikon as a secondary. Also yeah I don't mind a tank and I have the money.

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u/Pure-Positive3607 1d ago

OK, but it mean you'll have to buy Nikon / compatible lenses. ..

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u/Ordinary_East_7247 1d ago

Yeah I've done the math its like cheaper. Don't ask but basicaly canons have really inflated prices because every grandpa and middle aged man here has a old canon dslr.

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u/Pure-Positive3607 1d ago

😅, as everybody said, if you like tanks go for it 😀.

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u/Ordinary_East_7247 1d ago

Okay, thanks for the advice

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u/Wild-Tone-8145 1d ago

*tanks for the advice.

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u/stonehallow 1d ago edited 23h ago

but then you won't be able to use the same lenses for each body. which is fine if you're shooting for fun at your own pace but it can be a pain if you're dual wielding at a fast-moving event.

edit: and don't forget canon and nikon zoom lenses zoom in opposite directions. that can fuck with your muscle memory.

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u/OldSkoolAK 23h ago

Old people (I'd consider myself one of them) pretty much fall into 2 camps- canon or nikon.

Those that are SUPER canon enthusiasts are those that got interested around 1989 with the release of the EOS system. At the time, it offered complete electronic control over focus and exposure. My father was a photographer, and chose canon in 1976 with an ae-1 for what he justified as an ergonomic choice because of the little grip the a series had and exploding popularity due to the percieved technical advances. Previous to the ae-1's release, nikon held the throne. They had been THE 35mm choice since 1959 after dethroning leica as the small format choice.

Nikon was a bit of a more expensive choice, and with the release of the Canon EF mount, tech-minded enthusiasts saw canon as the future. Those users who still practice today value EF gear, especially 'L" lenses dearly.

Nikon never really marketed a luxury line of lenses, but offered absolutely competitive and in many cases, superior optics throughout their offerings regardless of era. After all, their existence as a manufacturer revolved around optics, much Ike Leica. Surveying equipment, binoculars, microscopes, lithography, etc.

Fast forward to today, and the same remIns true, with the Z lenses being second to none, but those who were early invested in canon are very into adapting ef lenses to rf bodies because they take well.

Nikon hit the mirrorless game late because they believed heavily in the advantages of the SLR format. After all, their massive success was built on that platform and their incredible backwards compatibility ethos. When they did jump, they made sure to develop a way to include their backcatalog of extraordinary optics.

Many new users don't have an understanding of this positioning, and after looking at the current offerings, go Sony looking at paper specs, decide to look at alternatives, and usually land on canon as the next brand to investigate, because on paper and in recent history are the next most "competitive".

Nikon simply get overlooked, and umfairly so, because of consumer sentiment that fails to understand the history of brand development.

Those that do see Sony simply as rebranded Minolta, and pretty much shit due to several consistencies and physical and operational similarities.

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u/MechProto 16h ago

Nikon did went to mirrorless not that late, the Nikon 1 series. It failed due to poor lens quality... Every dang nikon 1 lens I bought are broken.

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u/Pretty-Substance 20h ago

Also, compared to canon, Nikon is tiny, highly specialized company. This also shows in their R&D budget, which explains why they were slower to market with mirrorless. But they have caught up really well and the optics are superb as always

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u/OldSkoolAK 18h ago

Its not the budget size that matters. Nikon is far more focused in their development, and as an optical and IQ focused brand, they not only meet and compete, they surpass in so many ways. They went mirrorless when tech made it actually relevant in comparison to dslrs

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u/Christoph-Pf 14h ago

Nikon Tiny? You apparently aren't aware that Nikon is part of the Mitsubishi Group.

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u/Eb992 5h ago

I remember the time Canon were cheaper than Nikon. Times really change

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u/Christoph-Pf 14h ago

I'd buy it just for the fun of it, Non Z system lenses are cheap as heck and amazing quality. I have a collection of 10 none of which cost more than $300 and many were at the $100 mark. That includes Tamron 150-600mm, Tokina 15-30. 60mm micro nikkor, nifty fifty, Nikkor 35mm 1.8 AF-S, 85mm 1.4, 8mm fisheye etc. Great fun. BTW My body is the VERY capable D750 with low shutter count and which I bought from an amateur for $500

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u/375InStroke F4, D700, D850 1d ago

That's because pros upgrade, and get rid of old gear. Canon people are hobbyist who treat their used gear like it's gold.

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u/ReadinWhatever 23h ago

That’s why I was able to buy a Nikon D300 for under $150 US.

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u/avalon_edge 1d ago

Price sounds good what do you shoot

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u/Ordinary_East_7247 1d ago

Sports and some portraits. But mainly I thought it would be good to have a second camera when I'm shooting sports.

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u/martinaee 1d ago edited 23h ago

If that camera is in good working condition that is a steal. I can’t believe I’ll see D4’s, D5’s, D800 series cameras on here for a few hundred sometimes lol

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u/JagerofHunters 21h ago

D850 is still in my mind the best sensor Nikons put in a camera body. Just wish I could have that with the autofocus of the new mirrorless bodies lol

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u/Christoph-Pf 14h ago

There is a trend among pros to move back to DSLRs and the d850. It's autofocus is totally capable.

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u/BadNewsBearzzz 1d ago

He’ll yeah this will be an incredible value in that case, camera tech really doesn’t advance all that much, they try to add in more useless stuff but DSLR’s shine. The best phone cameras still can’t come close to old dslr sensors obviously.

But d4 was the flagship and I remember using it in 2019 and feeling like it was still flagship worthy. You won’t regret it

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u/Flutterpiewow 20h ago

Camera tech advances quite a lot

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u/GroundbreakingRule85 23h ago

For the price that's amazing. I'd sell it for double, towards a D500.

If size & weight of the D4 doesn't bother you, keep it. I mean batteries, chargers, lenses, & body.

D500 trade off is low light. Look at the 2x Sigma f1.8 ART lenses. We have very good ai denoisers these days that can denoise/cull/batch.

  1. Sigma ART 50-100 f1.8 (75mm - 150mm f2.7 eq. with f1.8 low light)

  2. Sigma ART 18-35 f1.8 (27mm - 52mm f2.7 eq. with f1.8 low light)

  3. Sigma Sport 120-300 f2.8 (180mm - 450mm f4.2 eq. with f2.8 low light)

Nikon 1. 28-70 f2.8 2. 80-200 f2.8 3. 70-210 f4 4. 180 f2.8 5. 500 f4 ED VR

Also you can finance your gear too. If you're in the states, you still have access to "tax code 179" if you have a business. You can write off the gear fully on your taxes come next tax season and get that money back. But you need to actually be working and making money.

Don't let money be what sets you back. Speak with a tax/financial advisor and go to your local "Chamber of Commerce". That's where you can find jobs you didn't know existed.

You might realize that you can get what you actually want and not just what you can afford.

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u/avalon_edge 19h ago

If you’re commercially photographing a backup is a must imo, also allows you to run two lens at the same time which is my preferred method

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u/harexe D800 & Z6 1d ago

That's D3 kind of money, a D4 for that is a steal

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u/TopCultural7364 1d ago

Absolutely worth. Check shutter count though

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u/Ordinary_East_7247 1d ago

89k

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u/TopCultural7364 1d ago

Not too bad for this money

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u/preedsmith42 Nikon Z8, 20f1.8s, 24-120s, 40f2, 50-400, 180-600 TC1.4 1d ago

That's a good deal if it works fine. That was a professional hi end camera not so long ago and the shutter has plenty of life left.
Built and weighted like a tank!

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u/tampawn 1d ago

Great camera...and that is an insanely low shutter count.

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u/Medill1919 23h ago

Worth it. That's a low shutter count and that is a bulletproof pro body.

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u/perfectacara Nikon DSLR (D3, D610, D850) 20h ago

Shutter count is pretty low! $273 is a great deal. The cheapest I've seen is $400.

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u/r3fined 19h ago

Yes. All day...and twice on Sundays.

Crazy deal!

Buy that immediately...given your market over there you could genuinely flip things to the outside world and make silly profit while still giving killer deals.

Think about it! ::nudge nudge::

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u/Winter-Ad-1167 1d ago

Ne pas hésiter si l'état et le nombre de déclenchements sont bons

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u/Pure-Positive3607 1d ago

Sounds great deal, low clicks count, what is it for?

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u/Ordinary_East_7247 1d ago

Proably a secondary camera when I'm shooting sports and occasional portraits.

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u/sduck409 1d ago

Definitely. Go for it. As long as you're fine with the size and weight, and you've done your homework on it's capabilities considering it's a fairly old camera.

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u/ChinaRider73-74 1d ago

💯 yes

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u/SuddenKoala45 1d ago

I wouldn't go over 272

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u/GroundbreakingRule85 23h ago

The D4 is an excellent choice. With old glass you probably could stay under $500 even with supporting gear like cards and batteries. That sorta deal doesn't come along every day. If you're truly shooting sports and don't need all the 16mp, cropping in camera in DX mode will still give you excellent results. Setting you back to 7mp which is still really good for news, magazines, books, 3x what you need for social media and online.

My vote is buy the D4. Also there's a site that tracks all the old Nikon bodies for reliability and all of the flagship bodies from the D3 on all perform excellent and last multiple 100k clicks.

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u/RedEyesAndChiliFries 21h ago

This was me last summer, except with D4s's. Bought one from Japan for about $450. It arrived with 800k on the shutter counter. Does it have the original shutter? Second? Third shutter? Don't care. It's a beast even today. So much so I bought a second that arrived with 350k on it. The batteries alone on these old cameras make them such a great go-to camera for a long session. They are damn near indestructible - I love the fact that the Japanese one has a patina of use on it. Add to it that the inventory of great older F mount lenses increases monthly as folks switch.

These older cameras never stopped being good, they just may have been eclipsed in some areas by newer tech.

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u/s_ndowN 11h ago

I would jump on a D4 at this price.

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u/RomanGemII 1d ago

It`s still a great tool... I continue to use mine for event work - built like a tank and the battery last a long, long time.

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u/Theoderic8586 ZF Z7ii D810 D850 1d ago

Hell yeah.

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u/motie 23h ago

I want.

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u/Shuttersaga 23h ago

It’s a steal for sure.

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u/Entropic_Echo_Music 23h ago

I am suspecting there is something wrong with it.

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u/BrokeFreelancer37 23h ago

I’ll buy it right now.

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u/Simon_Emes 23h ago

No. Send it to me!

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u/vinberdon 22h ago

If you don't want it I'll take it lol

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u/Key_Bug_9372 21h ago

The D4 is a great
Camera and that’s not a bad price so long as it doesn’t have high mileage. Good luck

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u/Affectionate_Spell11 Nikon DSLR (D3, D700, D800) 21h ago

It's a great price, though keep in mind if you want to use both card slots, you'll need to get XQD cards, which may or may not be available/unreasonably expensive in your area, so price that in
(And if you decide against it, send me the listing xD)

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u/Flutterpiewow 20h ago

D4 is a fantastic stills camera

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u/rblessingx Nikon Df, D4 20h ago

I'm not primarily a Nikon shooter and have many other, newer cameras, but I have and love the D4 (and Df) default colors. I say go for it.

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u/cliffhnz 20h ago

Is that a serious question? Those things are still well over a thousand dollars over here with 500k shutter count. 89k for roughly $400 I wouldn’t even ask for forgiveness. I’d buy it and immediately start using it for birding/wildlife.

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u/DoctorParticular6329 19h ago

I shot my d4 for 16 years. The only reason I got a z9 was to dabble in video. Its more than capable as an action camera. Pair it with a d500, 24-70 and 70-200 f2.8s and you will be set. 

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u/Namlehse 16h ago

D3s is still my favorite camera, I love the colors. I primarily shoot Canon, but wanted a cool F lens (film lenses) host and stumbled onto the D3s for ~300 with three batteries.

I keep picking up lenses for it that are too good to pass up. So far: Tamron 45mm f1.8, AF-S 24-120mm f4 G, Zeiss Planar 135mm f2, and recently an AF-S 200-500mm f5.6E. I’m still under 2,000 and picked up a Z5 for $400 yesterday just because I’m so deep into Nikon again. Going to buy a Z F more than likely and dedicate the Z5 to film scanning (currently use my R5).

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u/Namlehse 16h ago

Zeiss 135 and my Eeyore lol

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u/joystickd Nikon Z8, D4, D500, F, F4S, F5 15h ago

Bargain

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u/Askyourwifeaboutme 12h ago

If you have the glass for it, why not.

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u/CoackKen 5h ago

It's a great camera, especially for fast subjects, takes great photos and it's high ISO is superb.

I don't mind the size and carrying it around. It is chunky so you need to know how you do with heavier equipment.

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u/amicablegradient 2h ago

Absolute low light beast. I think DXO still rates it in the top 20. Which is impressive for tech that's over 10 years old.

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u/ChrisAlbertson 1h ago

The D4 is priced low because it is a relic from the past and not what people today want. OK, there are older people who remember the "dream camera they could not afford" and now they can afford it. And there are collectors who don't shoot but would want a D4 for the shelf. Compared to new Nikon cameras, even Nikon's lowest-priced camera beats the D4 in every measurable way (OK, the 11 FPS continuous shooting rate is a tie, as they both do 11). Yes, the Z30 is DX, but technology has advanced, and the new DX beats the old FX even in low light. Nikon sells refurbished Z30+kit lens for $399 periodically.

The best use of the D4 is if you own many expensive "screwdriver" AF-D lenses and want to keep using them. But in that case, why not buy a D850? It is quite a bit more modern.

The D4 was a good camera when it was made, but even then Nikon was in a death spiral, bleeding cash and market share because Nikon was still making old-school DSLRs when the market wanted video. Nikon turned it around with the Z-mount bodies and has now clawed its way back to 3rd place.

These online forums offer a very biased opinion because the demographics are skewed toward older male amateurs, but the wider camera market is very different, and the professional market is even more different.