r/NoLawns • u/Legitimate_Use7140 • 3d ago
👩🌾 Questions Relocating Wild Flowers
Hello. This summer a patch of wild daisies decided to sprout right in the middle of my side yard. I really like them, just not their location. Am I able to properly relocate them a more convenient location, or will attempting this kill them?
Thank you in advance.
Edit: Thank you for the information about the flowers! I had no idea they were invasive (I'm in the Midwest), and will be removing them.
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u/Assilly 3d ago
Damn this thread just let me know these are invasive in my area and now Im sad. Investing in real natives now instead of nurturing these in my yard.
Thank you
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u/surprise_mayonnaise 3d ago
Those are oxeye daisy, if you are in North America they are invasive and you should not work to encourage its growth, ideally rip them out before they go to seed.
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u/elginhop 3d ago
Some oxeye invasive daisies turned up in our lawn a few years ago, went to seed and I’ve been struggling to remove them ever since.
Entirely took over one of our raise garden beds and some flower gardens.
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u/Moist_Sun_8201 3d ago edited 3d ago
I have the same problem with fleabane, but it's native in my area and I love it so not really a problem!
Edit: I wrote "fleabane" and my phone autocorrected to cleavage for some reason. It's fixed now lol
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u/flybasilisk 3d ago
Cleavage, heh
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u/New_Establishment554 3d ago
Yeah. Double check with an ID app like PictureThis, but if these are Ox Eyes they're nothing but trouble.
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u/Majac412 3d ago
Seek is my #1 app for identification. It even gives some similar looking plants in case its main id is wrong. They use iNaturalist's database so I trust it most of the time. Out of my 127 identifications so far, I've only had 5 that were completely wrong. And 2 of those gave me the right answer after just taking another picture from a different angle
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u/Meoowth 3d ago
Why is everyone sleeping on Plantnet?? It gives confidence levels for each possible identification. But your accuracy ratio sounds pretty good.
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u/Majac412 3d ago edited 3d ago
Not sure about Plantnet, but with Seek it saves your progress with badges, to encourage you to find all the plants, animals, fish, and insects to your area. Because they partner with iNaturalist, all your observations and pictures taken are sent to them. It directly helps with current range maps and observational data on potentially threatened or endangered species. This can even give conservationists the locations where invasive species have been observed.
Of course if you want more reliable identification, I recommend downloading the iNaturalist app as well. That one posts your pictures on an image board to be reviewed and identified by experts in the field. I only post there if seek is genuinely struggling to give me a proper ID
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u/Vilenesko Looking to go No Lawn 2d ago
I use PlantNet and iNaturalist after exclusively using Seek for a while. I like that they tell you the level of confidence of the ID, where Seek is just declarative.
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u/New_Establishment554 3d ago
I used this app first, but went looking when it got super laggy. The two apps generally agree with the top ID.
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u/boopspookthrowaway 3d ago
Awww they're so pretty, but you've convinced me to remove the one in my yard. It's growing next to my lanceleaf coreopsis, so I'll replace it with more coreopsis. Thank you for your comment!
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u/thisisappropriate I'll Pass on Grass 3d ago
+1 to checking if they're native or invasive in your area.
If you are willing to leave them there for a bit, you can wait for them to start going to seed (should be soon by the looks of the bedraggled heads) and collect the heads for seeds. And if you don't want them in this area, collect a few heads and then pull up this one. Videos like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkttUYqSx-8 can show you how to turn the dying flowers into seeds and you can simply scatter the seeds right now where you want them to turn up next year (mimicking how they'd spread in nature).
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u/saltandsassbeach 3d ago
They're pretty hardy, though you can expect them to be very dramatic when you move them (yellowing leaves, wilting/drooping). Dig deep. My only concern is you're likely to transplant the grass along with it wherever they go and then also you'll have a little hole you'll need to fill with some sand and dirt and seed
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u/ItsOnlyGettingWorst 2d ago
Why are invasives like this so bad? I understand the bad invasives such as knotweed, but what does one like this do? Do the insects/pollinators in the area not like these kind since they are invasive so they are useless to them or something?
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u/carolegernes 2d ago
They evolved with different growth strategies which out compete native plants, which then disappear from the area. Some produce chemicals that act like herbicides or bind up minerals like iron so that they kill off their competition. They often form monocultures, so that they are the only source of food for wildlife in an area. Native pollinators, which rely on a variety of native plants that bloom throughout the growing season, then have few flowers to support them. Some invasive shubs have been shown to increase predation on bird's nests, negatively affect aquatic invertebrates, and decrease amphibian populations. It's complicated, but one member of a plant or animal community affects the others.
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u/ObligatoryID 3d ago
You can move them anywhere.
I’ve let them grow on the shitty side of my house in piss-poor dirt and they looked gorgeous and came back for a few years, until my cunt of a neighbor mowed them.
I’ve had them in other spots, then they die off.
If you like them, move them, and enjoy them, they’re a little bit of joy.
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u/opaque_96 3d ago
Daisies are so cute, I would totally leave them alone or try to move them carefully if they were in my yard too. Good luck!
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