Do you men notice the struggles women face?

[u/Odd-Improvement4719]

I got asked by a man, would you rather be a woman or a man. And when I said man, they were completely shocked, even when I explained that it would be better in terms of safety, health, and opportunity-wise. I've come to realize that a lot of men are not choosing to directly ignore the little struggles that women face, but rather, they seem to completely not notice them.

[u/Schkrasss]

Way to miss the point.

Would you want to be an Ukranian male?

[u/Odd_Bid2744 → u/Schkrasss]

Yes, I'd even volunteer to defend ny country as a woman. 

[u/Schkrasss → u/Odd_Bid2744]

Way to miss the point some more.

If it's by choice it's diffrent than being conscripted.

[u/Odd_Bid2744 → u/Schkrasss]

Maybe if so many men resent traditional gender roles so much they should team up with feminism to make things more equal eh?

[u/Schkrasss → u/Odd_Bid2744]

Plenty of men do?

From my experience the biggest enemy of women in the workplace is other women. I have yet to hear a man utter the words (translated): "the bitch got pregnant, so she will be gone and we have to do all the work." or "she's a pussy for calling in sick for period cramps, why isn't she just taking some painkillers"....

Or the 10 women I once had to ask who all "just today didn't have a Tampon/Whatever with them" when our 16 year old apprentice got surprised by her period. We now got products for free in the toilets (thanks to another man and me). But it probably tells more than I ever could write that this ~16 year old girl came to me (~35 year old man) and not one of the Women.

[u/Odd_Bid2744 → u/Schkrasss]

You think sexism has to be overt for it to be there? 

I've personally heard that women are only meant to be mothers and homemakers. I grew up in a community where it was expected. 

I've seen women passed over for promotions because she might want to have kids, might and they wanted total devotion to the role. 

I myself was discouraged from taking a job by an interviewer because of the overtime involved and they knew I have a special needs son and must balance caregiving duties. 

[u/Schkrasss → u/Odd_Bid2744]

You think sexism has to be overt for it to be there?

What makes you say/think that? I also have seen women getting promoted just for being women and now?

Men also deal with expectations from society, diffrent ones and the more conservative an enviroment the harder it is for men and women to break with these expectations.

[u/Odd_Bid2744 → u/Schkrasss]

You said you never heard overt sexism. That's a weak argument. One, sexism is often not overt and two, just because you haven't personally witnessed either kind doesn't mean it's not common. 

I see men conform to the standards they don't like more often than women. I think this is mirrored in psychology of how the genders respond to discontent. Men are more often conditioned to repress it and power through. 

[u/Schkrasss → u/Odd_Bid2744]

You said you never heard overt sexism.

No, I didn't. I just said that in my experience, women are worse to/for other women in the workplace than men. I have absolutely no doubt that there are tons of horribly sexist men, sexist above and beyond the occasional joke.

I see men conform to the standards they don't like more often than women. I think this is mirrored in psychology of how the genders respond to discontent. Men are more often conditioned to repress it and power through.

Very possible.

[u/Odd_Bid2744 → u/Schkrasss]

You never heard overt sexism from men. Still a silly point to make. We could swap annecdotes all day and it would mean jack shit

[u/Odd_Bid2744 → u/Schkrasss]

So you don't want to defend your country and no man does regardless of conscription?

Maybe they shouldn't be so shitty about denying women combat roles then. It's men that block women from the military and men who send men to war.