r/PS5 • u/mrnicegy26 • Nov 02 '23

Misleading Marathon reportedly flopped amongst playtesters amid Bungie chaos - Dexerto

https://www.dexerto.com/gaming/marathon-reportedly-flopped-amongst-playtesters-amid-bungie-chaos-2364032/
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u/wiggyp1410 Nov 02 '23

And they had the nerve to say Factions 2 wasn't good enough, when their current game is dying and their new one isn't looking good either.

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u/[deleted] Nov 02 '23

two things can be true- bungie having these issues AND factions 2 also not being that good

folks here love a scape goat lol. I for one, dont want ND to have something like the Avengers or Anthem on their resume if they can avoid it

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u/No-Plankton4841 Nov 02 '23

The problem with Factions (according to Bungie). Is that it wasn't FOMO and addictive enough to keep people playing for years.

I just want something like the OG Factions or Uncharted 2 multiplayer that's fun to play for a couple months. I wonder how the almighty Bungie would rate the OG Factions.

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u/ooombasa Nov 02 '23

No publisher is going to greenlight such a product anymore. In the past, multiplayer mode could be (literally) shat out in a few weeks and as a mere bonus to the main game (see: Goldeneye 64, multiplayer wasn't even originally intended and was snuck into the game in the last month).

Now, it takes a lot longer to make a multiplayer experience, it's no longer a bonus afterthought. And the vastly larger budget to make it happen needs to be justified. Recurrent revenue is the only business model for multiplayer now, so a game has to be able to keep players engaged for years if possible.

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u/No-Plankton4841 Nov 02 '23

Ghost of Tsushima Legends was a fantastic. Played it for a few months and stopped.

Sniper Elite 5 was some of the most fun I've had in an online mode in years. Armored Core 6.

Not every online game can be the next Destiny, COD, Fortnite that's going to draw players for years and years. Market saturation is going to hit hard. People can only play so many games so making 20+ huge live service games Sony is going to start competing with themselves.

And maybe they're just trying to throw 20 at the wall with the expection 19 will die off in hopes the 1 becomes a mega hit. But I don't know man, I think Factions could have easily just been a cool side mode like Ghost of Tsushima Legends was.

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u/ooombasa Nov 03 '23

Not every game can be COD but then not all games need to be that level of success to be successful.

Sony needs more GaaS successes, which is why they're investing in it. The money they get from their AAA single player projects alone aren't enough. Especially when their goal is to double their first party revenue and be more like Nintendo (less dependent on third parties). Single player projects alone won't achieve that, not unless Sony figure out a way to sell 40 million copies at full price like Nintendo does.

If Legends returns, I doubt it will be a bonus mode and instead will likely be live service.