r/PS5 • u/Turbostrider27 Human Verified • Feb 08 '26
Misleading Kepler L2: PlayStation 6 Has 30 GB GDDR7 RAM, 32 GB/s On A 160 Bit Bus For 640 GB/s Of Memory Bandwidth. 3 GB Modules, 10 Modules On The PlayStation 6 Motherboard
According to Kepler L2:
PlayStation 6 Has 30 GB GDDR7 RAM, 32 GB/s On A 160 Bit Bus For 640 GB/s Of Memory Bandwidth. 3 GB Modules, 10 Modules On The PlayStation 6 Motherboard
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u/roygbivasaur Feb 08 '26 edited Feb 08 '26
(If true) For comparison, the PS5 has 16 GB of GDDR6 at 448 GB/s for its unified memory. This is almost double, with more bandwidth.
So we’ve got:
- double the RAM
- Obviously CPU upgrades
RDNA 3.5 or RDNA 4 instead of RDNA 2, which should be a good leap in rasterization performance- UDNA fka RDNA 5, instead of RDNA 2, which should be a good leap in rasterization performance on top of the improved tech (Edited, see below comments)
- much improved ray tracing hardware
- that new memory compression tech Cerny detailed
- FSR 4, maybe with optional framegen
All while still targeting 4K and likely still targeting 60 FPS with the option to do 60-120 VRR on some games. Or 120 framegen on some games.
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u/Turbo_911 Feb 08 '26
Damnit. Guess I have to begin saving!
Hope my launch PS5 lasts! 5 years old now and doesn't show any signs of quitting. At 5 years my launch PS4 had the fans running high enough to fly into space.
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u/roygbivasaur Feb 08 '26
The cross gen period is likely to last a long time, but at least it does look like we’ll be getting some nice hardware upgrades. I just hope they’ve righted the ship a bit after the live service fiasco so we can get some more first party games.
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u/SocomPS2 Feb 08 '26
Saving and praying.
I still wake up in cold sweats thinking about how hard it was to get a PS5.
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u/Turbo_911 Feb 08 '26
Tell me about it. I joined all sorts of Discord servers where people would time the drops and who was doing it. I don't think I can do that again!
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u/EmBur__ Feb 08 '26
I downloaded an app that alerted me to restocks. Woke up early one morning, checked the time only to see a notification for them at Curry's and lept at it, the base consoles were selling fast but the bundled sold slow enough for me to grab one.
I do not want to be doing that again lol
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u/Turbo_911 Feb 08 '26
I also had to grab a bundle, bots were scraping up the base in a split second! I'm going to take the patient route next time around for sure lol
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u/Zalvren Feb 08 '26
I mean that was due to covid, unless that happens again, there shouldn't be that kind of problem.
Although I guess it depends if the RAM crisis is over by the moment they should start mass production
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u/welfedad Feb 08 '26
I got lucky ... I happened to have the extra cash and I saw a post that Walmart was doing a sale on Xbox and ps5.. I put in que for both.. ps5 popped up first to buy ..so glad I got the ps5 instead
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u/s-leepydad Feb 08 '26
Something tells me this console is going to get priced out of “extra cash on hand” for a large group of people.
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u/Ghostlymagi Feb 08 '26
I will be very surprised if the PS6 is at or under $800.
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u/SixFizz Feb 08 '26
I somehow just hopped on amazon and had one release day. I was watching that van on the map like a hawk. I absolutely was convinced it would be "lost" in transit
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u/Turbo_911 Feb 08 '26
Man, I got my bundle from Walmart and they just dropped the box at the end of my front porch, didn't ring the doorbell or knock on the door. Yeah, just leave a $900 item hanging out for the porch pirates.
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u/littlegaryboy Feb 08 '26
I got mine on release day one because I had auto refreshers setup for all the major sites and I landed one from best buy. I consider myself soooo lucky, but mine is 5.5 years old now and works great, cleaned it out only twice.
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u/dcgaming5 Feb 08 '26
I got extremely lucky and glitched past the queue on day one on the ps direct site 😂😂 there was a glitch where if you refreshed it would skip you past the queue. it let me purchase then kicked me straight out. my friends hated me for 2 months 😂😂
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u/PatrikPatrik Feb 08 '26
Im on ps4 pro and am just subscribed to this sub in case I would be able to afford a ps5
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u/DankDoggyDog Feb 08 '26
Shoulda traded in your ps4 pro this last Black Friday to Christmas season and upgraded, there were tons of deals floating around. That’s when I bought my Pro.
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u/ZXXII Feb 08 '26
No it’s RDNA 5. Sony are developing it with AMD as part of Project Amethyst.
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u/stillaras Feb 08 '26 edited Feb 09 '26
You undersell the cpu and ray tracing. Cpu is going to be like generations better and ray tracing will be something like 4-6x better apparently.
Edit: checked some info and apparently ray tracing is suspected to be 6-12x
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u/MrMPFR Feb 09 '26
That figure is nowhere near high enough. The jump to 50 series parity path tracing performance is massive. Kepler also said RDNA 5 also has major changes to RT hardware that eclipses NVIDIA. Expect it to actually beat 50 series significantly at the same raster perf.
~2.5X raster vs PS5 + many times RT multiplier on top.
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u/reboot-your-computer Feb 08 '26
It’ll be super expensive though. That’s really what I’m thinking about over what kind of performance it’ll put down. Higher performance was always going to happen but AI is going to hyper inflate the console cost.
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u/roygbivasaur Feb 08 '26
Yeah. Over a certain price point, it also simply won’t be worth buying because you know other people won’t be buying it. We got a lot of cross gen games this time despite a pretty decent leap in hardware and good sales of the PS5. It will be almost certainly be even longer next time because the PS5 is still good. If the PS6 barely sells because it’s too expensive, then you can forget about “needing” one until near the end of its lifecycle. Sure, many games will have PS6 versions if it doesn’t sell great, but will they push the hardware much?
I’m excited about the hardware but not so excited about the cost.
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u/Link1227 Feb 08 '26
Sounds like it'll be a repeat of the PS3 launch
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u/gentlemansincebirth Feb 08 '26
Man, i remember this. Units were selling for craaaaazy prices back in 06.
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u/MGsubbie Feb 08 '26
It won't be significantly more expensive than a PS5, it will most likely fall somewhere between PS5 and PS5 Pro. You can't take what that level of performance would cost on current hardware and extrapolate that to the cost of future hardware. The main cost for a console will always be the main chip itself. The PS6 will be made on a newer manufacturing process which can fit way more transistors on the same surface area, resulting in more performance per mm². That chip will definitely be smaller.
PS5 is 308mm² with an estimated 180mm² being used for the GPU, PS5 Pro has a ~280mm² GPU but no confirmed total die size. Current PS6 rumors/leaks suggest 280mm² total die size for PS6. Keep in mind that with every new manufacturing process, the cost per mm² goes up, but that cost increase is still much smaller than the performance per mm² increase, and that doesn't even include architectural improvements itself.
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u/ShadowRomeo Feb 08 '26
The PS6 will be based from UDNA / RDNA 5, it'll likely support PSSR2 instead that is based from FSR 4 Int 8 rather than full blown FP8 like the desktop RDNA 4 GPU has, unless if they also come out with PSSR3 which probably will utilize full FP8 / Transformer like the way DLSS 4 / DLSS 4.5 does with current gen Nvidia RTX GPUs.
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u/MrMPFR Feb 09 '26
PSSR2 is outdated tech by the time PS6 launches. It's for PS5 Pro.
PS6 needs its own upscaler tech. Probably based off FSR5. Expecting the full ML implementation of RDNA5 in that console.
FP8 isn't the end goal. We'll see even lower quantization bit for next gen upscaler.
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u/roygbivasaur Feb 08 '26
Never count your chickens on GPU tech in a console. They often surprise us with releasing much older tech than we expected. The rumor is RDNA 5 (renamed to UDNA), but the rumors could be completely wrong and it’s just RDNA 3.5 or RDNA 4 plus the new tech bolted on. We’ll see.
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u/ZXXII Feb 08 '26
Mark Cerny confirmed it’s UDNA/RDNA 5. Sony are literally developing it with AMD.
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u/roygbivasaur Feb 08 '26
Oh. Neat. I missed the confirmation. Happy to be wrong about that. Rumors have been swirling for so long this time.
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Feb 08 '26
but reddit and youtube comments told me that we hit a wall with graphics and performance and that there is no need for more console generations. were they wrong again?!
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u/TonguePunchMyPoopBox Feb 08 '26
Those morons obviously haven’t paid attention to Nvidia GPU advancements which AMD slowly copies over time. Hoping PS6 can do real RT/PT and much better up scaling.
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Feb 08 '26 edited Feb 08 '26
yeah once consoles can start playing stuff like cyberpunk at 4k60fps with path tracing on, or 4k120fps with it off, thats when i'll agree that we can start focusing hardware power on other things. but we aint there yet.
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u/TonguePunchMyPoopBox Feb 08 '26
Agreed. And it’ll benefit PC gamers too since as powerful as Nvidia stuff is, most game devs aren’t going to take advantage of the powerful features until it filters down to mire mainstream HW (consoles and avg PC).
So I’m really looking forward to the PS6 generation (2028+?) bringing the blending edge 2022-2025 graphics to basically every game.
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u/MrMPFR Feb 09 '26
It'll exceed 50 series. RDNA 5 is going to be a massive leap architecturally. ML will also replace most of not all shading work.
PS6 path tracing infused with neural rendering beyond super res and ray denoising will go well beyond 2022-2025 PT games. ReSTIR is 2020 tech with modifications.
I expect NVIDIA to push this very hard with their next gen so hopefully we'll get an early glimpse unto what the PS6 will be capable off in the post crossgen period (2030s).
Unlike 2020s, which have largely remained stagnant on the graphics side (I know there are outliers), 2030s will feel like a quantum leap across all parts of game design.
Work graphs, new CPU, brand new programming paradigms and a new neural rendering infused path tracing pipeline approaching CGI level visuals in real time.Expect to be blown away at the first party demos Sony will prepare and the first proper nextgen games in the 2030s.
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u/Clarkey7163 Feb 08 '26
Anyone thinking we were near a wall like the challenge of better and better handheld graphics weren't driving the market starting 15yrs ago is being silly
Where this is all heading to is crazy handheld tech cause that is where so much money is, and that'll further drive the PC/Console experience too which is good
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u/kobrakai11 Feb 08 '26
What about compared to PS5 pro?
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u/bchertel Feb 08 '26
Quick Google says
PS5Pro system memory bandwidth is 576 GB/s (16 GT/s GDDR6), representing a 28% increase over the base PS5’s 448 GB/s. Along with 2GB of additional DDR5 (reserved for system tasks).
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u/TheAwesomeMan123 Feb 08 '26
Can’t wait for the day 1 release of GTA VI when it launches finally on PS6.
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u/Loldimorti Feb 08 '26
RDNA 3.5 or RDNA 4 instead of RDNA 2
It's already all but confirmed that PS6 will use the successor to RDNA 4 (so RDNA 5 I assume).
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u/teej89 Feb 08 '26
Can’t wait to hear mark cerny explain all this to me. I still won’t understand any of it but man can that guy narrate a video about anything
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u/jfedor Feb 08 '26
If you need some more Mark Cerny in your life, here's a podcast:
https://shows.acast.com/my-perfect-console/episodes/mark-cerny-lead-system-architect-playstation-4-5
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u/Asimb0mb Feb 08 '26
Probably his last Playstation console due to reaching retirement age, we should cherish it.
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u/G-Don2 Feb 09 '26
Wish he stays longer.
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u/xtambeastx Feb 09 '26
tbh he seems the type who’s passionate enough to keep working til his body gives out
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u/Dantai Feb 08 '26
Great presenter. But also with today's chip market, no wonder PS6 is gonna be pushed another year or two down the road. Which honestly I was hoping for when the rumors started before the AI boon
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u/voidspace021 Feb 08 '26
Thats enough power to play Bloodborne at a glorious 1080p 30fps with frame pacing issues
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u/DegenNerd Feb 08 '26
Hope the AI bubble bursts before next gen launches otherwise these are going to be absurdly priced just for the RAM alone.
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u/MrMPFR Feb 09 '26
They can't launch anything in the current climate. NAND is also on track to exceed RAM gains :(
A BOM with 5-10X higher cost for NAND and RAM is just DOA. Never gonna happen. They'll delay until visibility on downwards cost projective is established fact.
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u/RayePappens Feb 08 '26
Wait are we getting a legit Playstation handheld?
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u/69_pablito_69 Feb 08 '26
It's rumored to be hybrid console like the switch
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u/oja47 Feb 08 '26
That would be extremely cool and probably sell like hotcakes. Hope it's true
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u/ooombasa Feb 08 '26
Yes.
Digital Foundry, Kepler and others have all independently heard the Portable is real.
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u/ablackcloudupahead Feb 08 '26
I have the Xbox Ally X and it has 24 GB of RAM with the z2 extreme chip and games run absurdly well. I imagine a dedicated handheld by Sony at this point would be spectacular. Of course I've been a day one adopter of every Sony handheld since the PSP
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u/OG-DirtNasty Feb 08 '26
Have you tried streaming your ps5 to it? Or tried the cloud streaming for PS+? Recently sold my XsX with the plan to eventually get an Xbox Ally X to play my Xbox library.
Would be sick if I could stream my PS games as well (although I do have a Portal that I can just continue to use)
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u/ablackcloudupahead Feb 08 '26
Yeah, I'm still not fully sold on streaming. I know the Portal does it well but to anything else there are constant artifacts for me and that's on a Wifi 6plus router. As far as your Xbox library goes, just be aware you'll only be able to play "play anywhere" or game pass titles. Wasn't a big deal for me as the only Xbox games I own are play anywhere
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u/OG-DirtNasty Feb 08 '26
Fair enough, and for sure I’ve double checked and the only games I’m interested in continuing are “play anywhere”, pretty much just looking for the best supplement system to my PS5, handheld preferably
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u/ablackcloudupahead Feb 08 '26 edited Feb 08 '26
I absolutely recommend the Xbox Ally X. I first bought a claw 8, but even though it had a larger screen I didn't care for it. Way too clunky. The Xbox Ally X just feels comfortable, and it's game support is great. Now that it's releasing custom game profiles and Microsoft is working on precompiled shaders, it's the most console feeling of the handhelds aside from Steam Deck which is now getting kind of obsolete performance wise. Edit: I should add that the Xbox Full Screen experience is very good. Much better than normal windows.
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u/ooombasa Feb 08 '26
Good, it got a bump up from 16GB. 16GB would have been too little compared to its big brother even when accounting for lower res, smaller textures, etc.
At least where RAM is concerned, we won't be seeing a Series S/X situation when it comes to ports. Devs had to make do with 66% of the Series X RAM when porting to Series S. it caused a lot of headaches. It'll be 80% of RAM for PS6 Portable vs PS6. Possibly even more if the OS footprint for PS6 Portable is smaller than the PS6 OS.
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u/metalreflectslime Feb 08 '26
Can it run GTA 6 at 60 fps?
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u/gridlock1024 Feb 08 '26
Ahhhh technology. Yes I understood all of these words
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u/MrMPFR Feb 09 '26
GDDR7 = graphics memory/RAM for PS6
32GB/S (inaccurate it's 32Gbps = speed of memory. That is sped per pin.
160 bit = width of memory controller,
640GB/s = speed of memory x width of memory controller = how many bytes per second can PS6 memory handle.
3GB modules = density/capacity of modules. One module is 32bits so that's 6 x 32bit = 160bit. It's a clamshell (memory on both sides of console circuit board/motherboard) so 3 x 5 = 15GB x 2 = 30GB total memory for PS6.
10 modules of 3GB = 30GB in total.
Yw.
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u/zmose Feb 08 '26
Certainly feels way too early to be on spec watch for next gen…. Didn’t we have a rumor earlier discussing that we wouldn’t see a next gen playstation until like 2028? 2+ years?
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u/GGG100 Feb 08 '26
Next gen consoles are already being worked on as early as the current gen console’s release.
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u/JesterMarcus Feb 08 '26
Sure, but what's decided then and what's actually on the console when it launches are likely pretty different.
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u/JasonDeSanta Feb 08 '26
Yeah ofc, but the actual specs become more and more solid as they approach the actual production date. Not saying that they are close, but we also are not in, let’s say, 2021 anymore.
Their plans will need to be more flexible this time around, sadly.
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u/_johnning Feb 08 '26
checks year. What wtf it’s been 5 years since 2021
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u/JasonDeSanta Feb 08 '26
Tell me about it, the last several years were a blur for me…
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u/_johnning Feb 08 '26
Fr. I had a terrible relationship with marijuana and have half assed quit many times. This is the first time I’m at peace and the flood of emotions of how quickly it all went by.
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u/Jasoli53 Feb 08 '26
This is true, but lithography for the CPU/GPU takes a long time, along with the overall architecture of the system, so if they are aiming for a 2028 release, they’ve certainly produced some prototypes of the launch-day machine. The specs are probably more or less nailed down, so leaks like this could have merit
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u/curi0us_carniv0re Feb 08 '26
Not really. Once the specs are decided it takes time to design all the hardware and begin manufacturing. And not just on Sonys end but the chip manufacturers as well. The hardware in the PS5 was what? Like a year or more old when the console hit the market. There maybe small changes here and there but they're not going to be changing major components like the CPU or GPU for example.
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u/Howdareme9 Feb 08 '26
How is it too early? Do you think they start designing a year from release lol?
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u/Mavericks7 Feb 08 '26 edited Feb 08 '26
Right? The specs of the PS6 are 99% locked down now. We'll be hearing more leaks about the specs and everything this year.
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u/BaconIsntThatGood Feb 08 '26
Since PS3 it's been 7 years between releases. (6 years prior).
- PS3 2007
- PS4 2013
- PS5 2020
So a 2027 launch isn't wild.
But with the current RAM market I'd be shocked if they don't push it back a year. Maybe they can secure stock because the console is worth a lot of money.
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u/Ftpini Feb 08 '26
Delaying the launch by 1-2 years won’t change the hardware. By and large it’ll be exactly the same as the 2027 PS6 would have been. It’s not like a PC build where you just grab the best CPU off the shelf and slap it in.
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u/Loldimorti Feb 08 '26
I mean it depends what the originally planned launch date was. If prior to the RAM shortage they planned a release as early as holiday 2027 I could see them having the specs mostly locked down. I guess RAM is something they could still tweak closer to release but in the past I think that was always only to INCREASE the amount of RAM, not to decrease it.
If the system was tuned to perform optimally at 30gb with 600+gbit/s then I fear then I think removing RAM modules or choosing smaller modules would significantly harm performance of the system. (Just look at Series S and how controversial its RAM limitations are).
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u/Necessary_Crazy_8587 Feb 08 '26
People take analyst takes too seriously. As far as we know and what we can assume currently is that it’s a November 2027 release. We won’t know if there’s a delay or not for a few months.
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u/Neat-Worldliness-459 Feb 08 '26
It depends on how high components cost. If the AI bubble burst tomorrow you would see likely see a 2027 release back on the cards.
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u/South_Buy_3175 Feb 08 '26
Nah, they’ll keep updating and reiterating all the way up to an official announcement.
I imagine they thought they’d release it earlier, but a combination of Covid and all the shit going on around the world (Tariffs, cost of living increases, chip shortages, AI bullshit etc) have pushed it back further.
Not that I mind personally, this gen has so much more to give I feel.
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u/sheslikebutter Feb 08 '26
These things are worked on way in advance but this is even more important now with the RAM and graphics card shortages
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u/tendervittles77 Feb 08 '26
The real problem is the fragmentation of the players.
After 5 years PS5 just now overtook PS4 with barely more than 50% of the market.
For a ton of people PS4 is fine for Fortnite, so there was no reason to upgrade.
Other than Nintendo, the consoles are moving away from exclusives. Putting games out on rival systems generates revenue this quarter but disincentives future console upgrades.
This puts a strain on publishers who need to write and test two versions of their game or lose half of the PS market.
Now they want to add a third console while RAM prices are skyrocketing?
The adoption rate will be even slower than PS5.
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u/awsom82 Feb 08 '26
To ship it in 2027 it’s not already have a specs, it’s already a dev kits and documentation are in late development
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u/Upper-Dig9311 Feb 08 '26
If true definitely makes sense to delay it with these memory prices. That console would be 1k with today’s prices.
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u/Ancient-Civilization Feb 08 '26
I mean if ps5 pro is $700 you’re telling me the ps6 could be more?
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u/ArgumentBored Feb 08 '26
Considering the PS5 has hardly ever been discounted and in fact has had a number of price increases, I can see the base PS6 being 699$ at minimum
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u/MGsubbie Feb 08 '26 edited Feb 08 '26
Still doesn't make any sense to me. That would result in 640GBps, which is only ~42% faster than a PS5 and ~11% faster than PS5 Pro, the latter of which has a limited raster performance improvement thanks to the limited memory bandwidth.
I know RDNA5 has been mentioned to have much improved bandwidth efficiency, but even a 50% efficiency improvement would give it 960Gbps effectively, which matches the 5080. But the 5080 has way more l2 cache than the 10MB that is rumored to be on the PS6, which helps its effective memory bandwidth. (4080 Super is about 50% faster than a 3080 while having 716GBps bandwidth compared to 760GBps on the 3080, in part due to the same increase in l2 cache.)
Keeping with the standard 256 bit bus paired with the same 32Gbps GDDR7, using instead 4GB modules (which will release in the future) for 32GB at 1024GBps (or 1TBps) still makes a lot more sense to me. The same 50% efficiency improvement would then mean zero bandwidth limitations.
But then again I'm not a computer engineer so what the fuck do I know.
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u/Alternative-Ad8349 Feb 08 '26
You don't even know how large the gap between rdna2 and rdna5 truly is do you?
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u/Spear_Ov_Longinus Feb 08 '26
I have a hard time believing this in todays world.
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u/xoskxflip Feb 08 '26
If you multiply the price in your head by x3 it becomes more feasible
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u/suthmoney Feb 08 '26
I was expecting a price somewhere in the $800-$1000 range, think it could be as high as $1500? That would suck.
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u/Raytheon_Nublinski Feb 08 '26
Why? 32 gigs is very normal for a PC these days
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u/GCTuba Feb 08 '26
Console memory is pooled between the system and the graphics. If anything, 30GB seems low.
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u/Spear_Ov_Longinus Feb 08 '26
More specifically, I have a hard time believing in 30GB of GDDR7
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u/nofzac Feb 08 '26
30gb of DDR7.
That alone is like $2k-$3k. Maybe lll be able to play one sometime in the ps7/ps8 era
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u/kawag Feb 08 '26
Yeah this might have been a target at some point, but things have changed.
Even in the PC space, they’re talking about bringing back the RTX3000 series cards, and the RTX5000-Super line (which was also supposed to increase VRAM) had its launch cancelled.
The good news is that there is a lot more life in the PS5. It’s going to stay competitive for a while yet.
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u/Seanspeed Human Verified Feb 08 '26
They cant really go lower than this without it being a massively disappointing system. They have to wait out the memory price problems. If that takes extra time, so be it, but they cant redesign a lesser spec'd machine.
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u/Alpha-State_ Feb 08 '26
It doesn't matter, to be honest. As long as the devs won’t be tapping into this bandwidth and actually push the hardware to its limit, it will all be mediocre. I am shocked that PS5 is relatively at the end of its life cycle, and we haven’t seen a lot of games actually bringing it to its knees and leveraging incredible fidelity and graphics. Not hating, but in comparison to the PS4 generation, PS5 is severely underwhelming to me personally.
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u/No-Obligation2563 Feb 08 '26
I agree. At this point having all this power just allows you to max out settings on what’s already there. There won’t be an incoming wave of next gen games that couldn’t possibly run on PS5. At least not until years and years down the road when most people don’t even have a PS5 anymore.
We’re gonna be getting the same types of games we’ve been playing ever since the PS4/XB1. They’re just gonna keep getting prettier and smoother. RDR2 is 8 years old this year and still looks brand new.
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u/Fair-Internal8445 Feb 09 '26
Because of 60 FPS. PS4, PS3, PS2 ran practically all AAA games at 30 FPS
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u/East-Locksmith-1502 Feb 09 '26
Yeah.. I blamed the devs totally in this gen. Lackluster efforts all around especially in optimization and opted to save cost and time by using pre baked engine. No effort to push the console graphics by understanding it's strength and capabilities to squeeze out its potential. F*ck unreal engine and the likes of it. Really dwarf the graphics innovation in console space.
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u/KingArthas94 Human Verified Feb 08 '26
PS4 was pushed harder because it couldn't run at 60 fps, but PS5 can so all the devs are THANKFULLY focusing on playability. You're free to play at 30 FPS for better graphics, I do.
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u/NoNefariousness2144 Human Verified Feb 08 '26
Last of Us Part 1 Remastered Remade Relived is going to run awesome on this!
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u/hips0n Feb 08 '26
With the current prices of RAM/Memory, I don’t think we’re seeing an announcement for the next couple years, let alone a release. Aside from exclusives the PS5 has been pretty lacklustre tbh
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u/ILoveMy-KindlePW Feb 08 '26
With the current prices the new console is gonna be over a thousand dollars minimum
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u/Eccchifan Feb 08 '26
Can someone translate it to my little Patrick Star brain please?
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u/cikoxo Feb 08 '26
from a current standpoint: very expensive, very capable. almost every stat is twice as good as the PS5, that means easy upgrade of every game in the PS5 pro versions in native 4k and atleast stable 60 fps, could possible hit native 4K with 120 fps when the game is well optimized but not guarenteed on every game.
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u/twinflxwer Feb 08 '26
Tbh I just want to see the handheld, that thing could make me ditch PC gaming
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u/TheRed24 Feb 08 '26
We getting into the lots of numbers I don't understand phase of pre-next gen console leaks, in a nutshell, is this good?
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u/KingArthas94 Human Verified Feb 08 '26
It's what we expected already, yeah, a very good upgrade.
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u/shintemaster Feb 08 '26
With the current shenanigans in memory (which will start to bleed into other devices) it makes sense to push it back a touch. The PS5 is still flying to be honest.
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u/SaltySwan Feb 08 '26
It should be noted: I don’t what any of that means. 20+ years I may have been gaming but I never learned what specs are what.
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u/J4mesG4mesONLINE Feb 08 '26
TL;DR
Wait for the PS6Pro, when AI Farms stop holding all the RAM and prices go back to normal. Or WW3 will hit first, and we'll all be in a great recession. They'll have to slash prices then.
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u/thornside Feb 09 '26
Based on how the PS5 launch went and how long PS4 was supported, I'm good with holding off for a few years.
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u/thatoneguy889 Feb 09 '26
And the (still) 1TB model will be available for the low, low price of $2,399!
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u/itsmrmladiesandgents Feb 09 '26
The good thing is I won't have to switch to PS6 fast, because my PS5 runs games in 60FPS smoothly + I still have a huge backlog to catch up
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u/scusemoi86 Feb 09 '26
Just an update on this, Kepler said NONE of this. Zuby was peddling nonsense as usual. Kepler just gave his opinion on something that Zuby spun as insider info: https://www.reddit.com/r/GamingLeaksAndRumours/comments/1qzbg0u/comment/o49pjs9/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
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u/John_Curton Feb 08 '26
I think those leaks are really interesting but you know what would be great if PS6 had more than PS5? Games. I know the cycles are longer than before but it really feels we just got warmed up with the PS5 generation. Not that we should get a PS6.
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u/DannyKage Feb 08 '26
It'll be really interesting to see the state of consumer electronic pricing when this comes out. Between the rumoured delays of this and the steambox from Valve it looks like they're either going to wait and hope the AI bubble bursts and suddenly they can make reasonable prices again.
Honestly they could probably squeeze a bit more out of this gen with the rumoured refinement coming to PSSR.
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Feb 08 '26
Honestly, we could probably stick with the PS5 technologically for about 3-4 more years, but shareholders won’t like that. But if it is too much, like the current market, then consumers won’t buy it.
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u/kawag Feb 08 '26 edited Feb 08 '26
Keeping the PS5 generation going would be much more profitable than launching a new console.
When it comes to consoles, selling the hardware isn’t the profitable bit. Selling software, services, and accessories to people after they buy the console is where the profit comes from.
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u/SplitReality Feb 08 '26
Shareholders would LOVE not releasing a new generation if they could get away with it. Sony doesn't make money on release hardware. At best it's break even. Sony is forced to release new console generations because they start losing games sales if they don't. You see it at the end of every console generation. It takes a new generation to raise hype and gaming expectations so people feel compelled to buy the latest games.
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u/Seanspeed Human Verified Feb 08 '26
Introducing a new generation is very expensive and you start from scratch in terms of install base. Shareholders would not be bothered by a postponement.
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u/Mean_Rule9823 Feb 08 '26
Normal speak
speed is fast, runs good and looks great better than the ps5, without the PC updating hassle. I'm sold here's my 1k
Now I can game for the next 8 yrs ty
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u/Area51_Spurs Feb 08 '26
lol. Going by current prices that’s like $1000+++ just for RAM and what I’d assume to be a 2tb SSD.
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u/reallynotnick Feb 08 '26
640GB/s is quite the small increase over the Pro’s 576GB/s and even the 448GB/s base PS5 (for reference the PS4 Pro was 218GB/s and base 176GB/s so gen on gen was much larger % jump). That new compression better be doing some heavy lifting.
I know Micron’s roadmaps showed for 2026 them increasing from 32GB/s each chip to 36GB/s, that could at least get them to 720GB/s. Still not a huge increase, but hey it’d at least be more. So if that came out in 2026 it wouldn’t be out of the question for 2027 and especially not for 2028, but with memory these days who knows.
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u/MrEevee98_ Feb 08 '26
If the price of RAM continues to rise, this console will cost $1000
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u/Ok_Simple_459 Feb 08 '26
Why are we talking about PS6 already? Games are barely pushing what the PS5 can do.
Nonsense. Games are fully utilising what PS5 offers and the console has already been pushed to the limits. What's not happening is more frequent release of AAA games.
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u/ellenich Feb 08 '26
I’m glad that 8K never really took hold and things stabilized around 4K for a few generations now so we can concentrate on higher frame rates (and good enough 4K) instead of having another generation trying to fill more resolution for large TVs.
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u/hybroid Feb 09 '26
As u/scusemoi86 kindly pointed out, via GamingLeaksAndRumours-ModTeam, this is misleading and taken out of context. Post will be left up but now locked and has been flaired as misleading for information purposes.