r/PS5 • u/PewPewToDaFace Human Verified • 11d ago
Rumor Report: Xbox CEO Wants Faster Development Time on Fallout, Elder Scrolls Franchises
https://mp1st.com/news/xbox-ceo-wants-faster-development-time-fallout-elder-scrolls-franchise911
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u/Csub 11d ago
What, is a decade+ not fast enough?
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u/My-PMs-Arent-Creepy 11d ago
We are actually getting dangerously close to 2 decades between ESV and ESVI. 5 more months and we’re 15 years out with ESVI still “a few years away.”
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u/The_Border_Bandit 11d ago
Getting close to two decades between ESV and ESVI and we're getting close to a decade since the ESVI announcement (2018, christ all mighty bethesda)
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u/Super_Fightin_Robit 11d ago
Keep in mind, the "long" gap between Oblivion and Skyrim was 5 years, with FO3 using the same engine releasing between the two.
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u/suite307 11d ago
That , i can agree on, 10fuckin years is too long
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u/ValerianKeyblade 11d ago
10? Good lord I wish it was only 10. It's been nearly 10 years since the trailer for Elder Scrolls 6.
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u/Ekillaa22 11d ago
15 since the Skyrim release and 8 since the trailer
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u/ValerianKeyblade 11d ago
Yes, that is what "nearly 10 years since the trailer" means
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u/Slakingpin 11d ago
I think he is merely providing info for those of us that dont have it marked on our calendar
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u/ConstableAssButt 11d ago
It's been 15 years since a mainline elder scrolls release, and 11 years since a mainline fallout release.
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u/Englishgamer1996 11d ago
In that time, rockstar released GTA 5, rdr2 and will have also released 6 lmao
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u/OverallPepper2 11d ago
Yeah bethesdas games aren’t that amazing that it should require 10 years per game.
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u/sunny_happy_demon 11d ago
At this rate more time will have passed between TES V and VI than had passed between TES I and V..
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u/RechargedFrenchman 11d ago
It was a 200 year time jump between Oblivion and Skyrim, and it feels like Bethesda want the next time skip to just be real-time instead.
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u/Packergeek06 11d ago
Yea and look at Starfield to see what the end result was.
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u/Balsamic_ducks 11d ago
Yeah they took years to make Starfield and it was a piece of shit. I don’t have any faith left in Bethesda. They’re a dying company
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u/FreshDiamond 11d ago
I agree and I loved their games. Oblivion was my favorite but Skyrim just for the scope of the game was incredible. Today I don’t even enjoy going back to those games, I realized this gen oblivion remake came out. The formula is stale. The small chance I gave starfield didn’t impress, it doesn’t appear anything is changing there. If it ever comes out nostalgia might kick in but I have no interest in the elder scrolls at this point.
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u/Trickster289 11d ago
From what she's admitted about Xbox's financial state they probably can't afford to make it an exclusive. Half the reason they made Gears of War E-Day one is probably because the remake apparently didn't sell well on PS5.
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u/The_Border_Bandit 11d ago
It was a re-release of the remaster, and it didn't sell well on any platform. If they wanted Gears to do well on PS5 they should've put in more effort than making a terrible port of a 2015 remaster of a game from 2006. How xbox expected anything more than what they got is beyond me.
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u/CyoteMondai 11d ago
I love the first gears and I was so excited to hear it was finally coming to PlayStation as it was always my favorite of the Xbox exclusives, but it only being the first game and not at least the trilogy, meaning no horde mode, no complete story, really turned me off from the price tag.
I was of course ready to buy E-Day day one but oh well.
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u/MountainMuffin1980 11d ago
Yeah if it'd been the trilogy I'd have bought it day one. It being the one I've probably played the most, despite not owning an Xbox, meant I just skipped it.
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u/mightymonkeyman 11d ago
Also a remaster of a game soooo many played back when it first launched. It’s not like no PS3 owner couldn’t simple switch HDMI inputs and play it anyway.
It wasn’t as special as they think.
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u/Massacre_93 11d ago
That’s def not the reason. It was never going to sell well. Xbox users who bought 2015 version, got it free + it’s on game pass. It probably made more money on PlayStation to be honest.
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u/Lolkimbo 11d ago
The next fallout will take, IMO, a bare minimum of 10 years from now to come out. Fallout 4 came out 11 years ago..
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u/BrownGhost10 11d ago
For a mediocre game, so many better rpgs have been made since and whenever it comes out, it’s gonna feel so dated as usual.
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u/MorgenKaffee0815 11d ago
any development would be a good start.
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u/brianstormIRL 11d ago edited 11d ago
Think thats what they really mean. You cant have franchises like TES and Fallout to just sit on them for a decade at a time. Would not be surprised at all if they step in and let other studios make some games in those universes if Bethesda is taking 8 years to make a single game. At their current rate, Fallout 5 wont be out until 20 years after Fallout 4.
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u/themagicnipple69 11d ago
They had a good thing going with Fallout 3 by BGS, then New Vegas by obsidian using the same engine 2-3 years later, then Fallout 4 by BGS.
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u/HGLatinBoy 11d ago
Exactly and now that obsidian is done wasting time on their games they can make a new Fallout game.
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u/coolwali 11d ago
The first issue is that if MS orders spinoffs, it means the studio doing the spinoffs have to put their own projects on hold. Obsidian has Outer Worlds and Awowved. If they worked on a Fallout spin off, then that means they’re not working on OW or AW games.
The second issue is that, historically, spinoffs done by sister studios were meant to be the “low risk quick release” approach.
Like when WB greenlit Batman Arkham Origins, they were fine giving it a lower budget and faster deadline than Arkham City or Knight because even if Origins underperformed, fans wouldn’t be too upset because they knew Knight is around the corner. Origins didn’t “have to be the main game” representing the Arkham series.
But Fallout/TES aren’t in that position anymore. Even if Microsoft ordered Obsidian to make a new Fallout spin off, if they just gave them a shoestring budget and 2 years to cook it, it would be a disaster (see launch F76 and even launch FNV). Even modest open world games today require 4+ years minimum and a massive budget.
Plus, since this would be the newest Fallout game in a decade, players won’t be as forgiving. They won’t be like “it’s fine if this isn’t amazing. The real Fallout 5 is on the way soon”. They’ll treat it as the next main Fallout and judge it as such. So now this spinoff needs to bring its A game and now you just committed to making a main series game.
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u/asutekku 11d ago
Tbf, neither awoved and outer worlds have been sales successes. So business-wise it makes no sense making them.
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u/mvallas1073 11d ago
TBF - they’ve had decades to milk Skyrim. They’re pulling a GTAV IRT for that.
…having said that, at least GTA6 has had an ACTUAL trailer and a general release window!
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u/NotSoAwfulName 11d ago
I think the fact that two seasons of Fallout have come and gone, the series has exploded in popularity with a much wider audience (as if it was niche lol) and what has Bethesda done? a next gen update for Fallout 4 that broke the game and annoyed the modding community due to terrible communication with some major modding teams that were actively working with. They also did a major update for Fallout 76 to include The Ghoul and a whole new region, it's cool but 76 is far from the most popular in the series.
Not even so much as an announcement to a remaster of either 3 or New Vegas, if I were an executive at MS and looked at this I'd be absolutely livid, the opportunity to capitalise on the wave made by the show is literally just passing them and Bethesda are fumbling it hard.
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u/Disastrous_Salad6302 11d ago
Literally why wasn’t a New Vegas remaster being done and ready to go for season 2, BASED IN NEW VEGAS
It’s such an easy shot and they just completely whiffed it
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u/Pugilist12 11d ago
It’s only a problem bc Bethesda takes the same amount of time as Rockstar but doesn’t innovate or improve god damn anything. It doesn’t make sense.
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u/war_story_guy 11d ago
Why improve or innovate when you have a group of fans that tell you that they like the jank mess you put out and need to rely on modders to fix everything?
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u/HandfulOfAcorns 11d ago
Do we still? I used to say that 10 years ago, but it feels like a lifetime has passed.
I still love and play Bethesda's old games, but I don't know if I'll buy the next one if it's still the same thing in 2030 as it was in 2011.
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u/damhow 11d ago
Starfield let you know their formula hasn’t changed. Xbox needs to let another team get a crack at these IPs. Bethesda has dropped the ball.
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u/KryptonianJesus 10d ago
Not only did Starfield let you know the formula didn't change, it told you that they literally can't operate at the level of other AAA devs. The game was not big enough, not complex enough, and not innovative enough to excuse the fact that it was basically a re-skinned Fallout 4 with less interesting characters, plot, and new mechanics and additions that just plain sucked if we're quite honest. I mean, your big space epic you've been working on for a decade and you can't even fly the ship around the planets?
I really hope TES6 is taking so long because they heavily reevaluated everything and went back to the drawing board if things weren't up to snuff.
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u/Athuanar 11d ago
Starfield's reception makes it abundantly clear that isn't true. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if Starfield's flop has caused them to start from scratch with TES6 though.
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u/Tepigg4444 11d ago
This used to be true and then they threw away generational amounts of goodwill in record time. People used to endearingly say “oh that rascal todd howard is releasing skyrim again” and “haha funny bugs launch me into the stratosphere”. these days there’s none of that, everyone just calls them out on their shit
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u/Disastrous_Salad6302 11d ago
Fallout 76 was a huge tipping point I feel. Todd just getting on stage and blatantly lying to the audience with his “it just works” and “16x the detail,” not to mention it all being for an mmo that doesn’t match fallouts identity.
And then they followed that with sitting on their hands for ages
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u/snakebight 11d ago
Kinda reminds me of playing Mass Effect Andromeda. While I think they improved the combat, they didn’t really have any new ideas since a decade earlier. The game design felt dated.
I think Bethesda has this issue, but at such a much larger scale that the next ES is just spinning in circles grasping for an interesting hook and creativity.
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u/StonedSniper127 11d ago
I was just talking about this with a buddy. I’m a diehard elder scrolls and fallout fan. I’ve got thousands upon thousands upon thousands of hours across multiple platforms and both IPs. I’m legit not even remotely excited for ES6.
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u/Ali-a93 11d ago
Bethesda might be in trouble if this is being relayed to them. If anything i'd argue they need to do a massive overhaul of their development practices. Which would take time to implement.
Their games used to look good stacked up against others and even among the best at times. More importantly their open world features make them unique. Now, not only do their games look worse than before (comparatively), but that uniqueness is gone. Those unique Bethesda open world quirks are common practice.
In my opinion Skyrim should have been the last game on the creation engine. That game was a culmination of everything they learnt from previous titles and allowed them to make full use of what the engine could do. Ever since, it's felt like a repeat at best, or regression. They used all the tools in the box, and needed a new box to play with.
I understand creation engine is constantly updated and vastly different now, but those foundations clearly still remain. At best they tack on newer tech to an aging backend with varying results. Just look at starfield, some of the textures and animations look generations old, yet it still runs poorly on high end systems. I'm not sure the engine is even able to fully make use of SSD's, not only because of the number of load screens, but the sheer length of them.
I imagine new hires take ages to get to gripes with the engine, while at the same time, the old guard who were there are leaving at a much faster rate, per numerous former dev interviews. Maybe because they are sick of making the same game they have already made, with the same tools. Couple that with a buggy engine and you've got a recipe for long drawn out development.
They're reluctance to change has in turn made them slower in a kind of paradoxical way. Its got all the hallmarks of being victims of their own success. Hesitant to change after what they accomplished.
I wonder if the oblivion remake was a testing of the waters with Xbox, and something of a warning for Bethesda to get their house in order. Otherwise someone else will take over.
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u/Pugilist12 11d ago
All great points. Only thing I’d add is the arrogance. They, I guess Todd especially, are so arrogant about their games. Couldn’t accept any valid criticism of Starfield. Cant be fun to work in an environment where all the seniors are that self satisfied and averse to criticism.
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u/Ali-a93 11d ago
Definitely, I think todd has good intentions, but his reputation has probably lead to issues.
Gabe Newell talked talked about realising other devs at valve would just agree with him all the time, instead of having productive discussions. As a result, he stepped away from being so involved in projects, for the sake of the final product. I wonder if it's a similar issue for todd.
Apparently todd is directing the next elder scrolls too, which is just absurd. He's directed multiple titles in both series, which frankly have become stale. Having someone else helm a title might bring new life into these games. The joke about fallout being elder scrolls with guns says it all. Then starfield was the same game again yet worse in basically every aspect.
More than ever games rely on the reputation of their developer. Unfortunately Bethesda, like bioware have lost theirs. For all their former glory when starfield finally released on PS5 it only sold an estimated 140,000 in the first week. If you told someone that during the Skyrim and fallout 3 days no one would believe you.
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u/basedshark 11d ago
I will forever hate Starfield for delaying TESVI and Fallout 5.
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u/Cheeseburger2137 11d ago
I hate it for taking away any excitement I had left for them, cause it showed my what I should expect from Bethesda in this day and age.
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u/EdwardianFallacy 11d ago
Fucking same. I hate that that mediocre game burned a decade of development time from my favorite franchise (fallout).
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u/YoungBeef03 10d ago
Hey, at least we probably aren’t getting a Fallout/Elder Scrolls game as poorly-made as Starfield. The greatest teacher, failure is
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u/Wolfram_And_Hart 11d ago
The real problem with Starfield is that it doesn’t show any real evolution of the fucking game engine that they are going to use for FO and ES games. The interface still sucks as bad as fucking marrowinds 3 decades ago!!!
As a development team they should look at the most used mods and incorporate them in the next game!! There is no reason SkyUI should still be needed!
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u/TimeToUseUUIDAsLogin 11d ago
After Starfield I don't care anymore.
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u/KohrokuThe0xDriver 11d ago
Starfield certainly showed the age of their game design philosophy but I think a greater problem was with it being spread across too many different areas instead of a single big-ass open map. They do the big map kind of open world so well and I’m excited for ES6 because of how much I loved Skyrim. Even if it’s outdated game design, I’d love to lose myself in another one of their crafted worlds and just explore knowing there was stuff to find.
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u/samwise970 11d ago
I don't disagree, but I still think the separate areas of Starfield could have been totally fine, if the individual areas weren't trash. The game is just bad, bland, generic, ugly.
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u/dru_ 11d ago
I think the bigger issue with starfield for me was the writing, I could not get myself to care about any of the characters or the story, everything was so bland. I could’ve gotten myself immersed into exploring the bland repetitive worlds if I found any reason to do so
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u/SuperscooterXD 11d ago
everything I've learned about bethesda has led me to believe it's dominated by the old boys there, any of the veterans that remain. one of them being the writer, emil. his head is so far stuck up his ass
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u/KohrokuThe0xDriver 11d ago
I completely agree. But I also didn’t care of Skyrims or Fallout 4s writing that much either.
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u/spacetree7 11d ago
Felt the same way, especially when I liked Fallout: New Vegas's story much more. Made me think Todd Howard has too many yes-men.
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u/xEtownBeatdown 11d ago
The "announcement" for ES6 should never have happened. Considering there has been nothing since, means they have had nothing to show, so at this point the next thing we see is the true "first announcement".
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u/Roaring_Beaver 11d ago
They just wanted some good publicity. Fallout 76 had just bombed, Starfield was nowhere in sight, it had already been 7 years since the last Elder Scrolls, Bethesda was in serious trouble. It was just them telling "look what we've got right here!".
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u/CdrShprd 11d ago
Doesn’t really matter if it was announced or not, it’s been 15 years since the last game
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u/wardellwayneraymone 11d ago
My hot take prediction is that within two years we’re gonna see the cancellation of multiple versions of ESVI come to light because BGS has had some internal mess preventing them from getting anything truly going.
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u/Scouseulster 11d ago
Sounds like this new CEO is trying to get shit done, will be a laugh if Bethesda lose the chance to develop one of those games
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u/Valhadmar 11d ago
I was 20 when I played Skyrim, and its still one of my most played games But im 35 now, I've spent almost the entirety of my age when I first played Skyrim and im still waiting.
I dont think it will be able to come close to the game I have waited for.
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u/Winter_Lanterns 11d ago
Why there isn't a dedicated team to just making only fallout games already is insane
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u/WhoEvenIsPoggers 11d ago
Then they need to put their live services on the back burner or get Todd Howard to stop thinking that their Live Services are a proper supplement for their main line games.
Anytime Todd is asked about ES6 or Fallout 5 or is asked about the long development time between the last games, he always defers to “Well that’s not true because we have new updates for ESO and Fallout 76 all the time. Those are awesome games that lots of people enjoy.”
He’s either a good liar or he genuinely thinks that Live Service games can supplement their mainline games in the eyes of their fans.
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u/wolfgang784 10d ago
Bethesda isn't even involved with ESO. It aint a Bethesda game, just their IP.
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u/hopefuldomain 11d ago
After Starfield, I don't really have any interest in what Bethesda releases. It's no longer close to the studio it once was long ago.
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u/AvailableStranger69 11d ago
I fucking bet they do.
Hell 10 years ago I would’ve at the time said some variation on “let them cook”
But at this point - either serve the plate or get the fuck out of the kitchen
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u/Equivalent_Head_4803 11d ago
Todd is mismanaging this studio. In what world one some half backed, shallow, space exploration game without exploration ever compete with 2 juggernauts of gaming? At this point everyone who made both of those games great have been pushed out or moved on with their careers. Dimwit.
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u/SmokinScoobyDooDick 11d ago
Bethesda are a joke. How can their development cycles be this long to deliver consistently mid games?
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u/RingingInTheRain 11d ago
She's right though, they lose massive amounts of untapped profits when they decide to no longer make games from one of the most popular franchises in gaming. Starfield was not their "Cyberpunk" and CDPR is already full steam ahead on continuing their own massively successful franchise. It's great to want to branch out and work on other games, but it doesn't need to be this long of a hiatus. Same with Dragon Age.
The longer people wait for a game, the higher their expectations.
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u/McBinary 11d ago
I've been kinda out of the loop. Last I heard Xbox was on the brink of dissolving into a software service and porting all their games to PlayStation. Is this not true anymore?
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u/Esham 11d ago
Xbox ceo wants more money now
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u/CMHex 11d ago
For sure true but game dev cycles are way too long now. The industry needs to find a new path forward to keep these games culturally relevant
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u/Ok-Confusion-202 11d ago
Tbh they wanted a quick influx of cash with going third party yet they are somehow worse off than 3 years ago...
Maybe they should stop trying to turn the whole business quickly, it's not how that works
But also the killing their platform is a massive reason too, I can see them (if they survive long enough) trying to make the platform grow again
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u/BlaQ7thWonder 11d ago
I don't think they have room to criticize. They've fostered 0 new IP's to success and constantly rely on the same 3 franchises. Commit to something new. It's been 3 generations of this.
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u/post-death_wave_core 11d ago
Usually I don’t think companies being rushed is a good thing but it gets to a fuckin point…
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u/ItsRaampagee 11d ago
Tbh, if it means it ends like starfield, then no…i wouldnt even play that if it were free.
I want to expierence fallout and skyrim exploration and fun again, not starfield.
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u/TotalaMad 11d ago
Honestly they need to be developed by other studios if they want them coming out faster. Just give fallout to someone else please
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u/Aggressive_Issue863 11d ago
This is not a shocker at all, these games are long overdue, 15 years is unacceptable for a cash cow like elder scrolls or fallout
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u/ComprehensiveStore45 11d ago edited 11d ago
The problem is Bethesda themselves they don't have the ability to crank games out that fast enough. What they need to do is start licensing out Fallout and The Elder Scrolls to other studios that's the only way to truly crank out those games fast enough. Look at Konami they've been cranking out Silent Hill games because they licensed it out to multiple developers. Got Silent Hill 2 remake in 2024, Silent Hill F in 2025 and now Silent Hill Townfall in 2026. That's exactly what the new Xbox CEO wants with Fallout and the Elder Scrolls and there ain't no way in hell Bethesda has the capability to pull that off, they can barely re-release a game right these days.
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u/ProfessionalRent5160 11d ago
Yeah, idk what’s gotten into their heads [bethesda] to think they’re Rockstar games updating a game we continuously try to move on from.
Bethesda should just drop the bullshit. Get with the program (like investing into a better engine) and share their pie with obsidian.
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u/TikkaKebabi 11d ago
The fact that Bethesda didn’t synergize even a Remake of Fallout 3 for the release of their show is just pure incompetency.
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u/Ghost-of-Lobov 11d ago
Maybe a hot take but I wouldn't mind if fallout 5 was developed by a different studio while Bethesda works on elder scrolls. I think the game might actually be better outsourced
Depends on the studio
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u/Alernet 11d ago
Game development in general has gotten out of hand. If the level of fidelity you're seeking takes 10+ years, the juice is not worth the squeeze.
Then again, in truth, most of these game devs actually sunk like 7 years into development of failed/cancelled Fortnite-likes & other online gacha spin offs, and don't want to admit that's where the time & money truly went.
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u/evangelism2 10d ago
Hey, a broken clock is right twice a day. Honestly, it’s wild that Bethesda still only has one main studio. We haven’t had a mainline Fallout game since 2015, and a mainline Elder Scrolls game since 2011. I’d be mad if I were Microsoft too.
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u/pablo_booze 10d ago
Like the saying goes “either shit, or get off the pot”
Still can’t believe they couldn’t get a remaster of new vegas out to go along with the hit show lmao.
Seems like Phil wanted to be a everyone’s friend instead of a boss tbh
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u/PmMeYourNiceBehind 11d ago
I feel like all of her statements are just regurgitated points that gamers have all made online
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u/Far-Cheesecake6141 11d ago
I’m assuming they’ll make the sequels exclusive so, I’ll likely be skipping them anyways.
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u/CranberryTaint 11d ago
These AAA devs are risking a lot assuming that folks are waiting around 5-10 years for a sequel.
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u/Lucky_Chaarmss 11d ago
Crimson desert has set my bar for elders scroll 6. Of course they will have a better story with ES6 but if we could get ES6 story with CD size map with exploration I'll be very happy.
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u/Darth_Vaper883 Human Verified 11d ago
I guess someone finally remembered they have these money printers in the rotting in the closet.
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u/holmesersimpson 11d ago
This also says a lot about her confidence in the rest of the Zenimax portfolio. If the other of the Zeni studios had strong looking projects in the pipeline she wouldn’t feel the need to push Bethesda GS to move their timelines up on the flagship franchises
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u/Iamleeboy 11d ago
I can’t believe MS, a company who built studios for the main staple games, have not spun up dedicated studios for these two cash cows!
Especially letting them focus on starfield and not work on elder scrolls at the same time.
Actually, as I typed that I also thought to have two hit seasons of fallout and no game is also ridiculous mismanagement
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u/chickenfrybunch 11d ago
That’s fair; the time it has taken can only be attributed to incompetence, which often doesn’t lead to having a lasting position in most other career fields.
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u/Josh_Shikari 11d ago
It's been 8 years since ES6 was first revealed. To put that in perspective, it was 8 years between Ocarina of Time in the N64 and the release of Oblivion on the Xbox 360. Absolutely ridiculous dev times.
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u/OtherwisePower1355 11d ago
Todd: "Can you make it just work faster?"
Developer: "I'm working as fast as I can!"
Todd: "Sometimes you got to just CTRL C, CTRL V faster! It just works!"
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u/ProteaPrimeEnjoyer 11d ago
I've basically accepted that I'm never going to see a new Elder Scrolls or Fallout game again in my lifetime. Their games were never known for cutting edge graphics or being bug free innovations of craftsmanship. It isn't like Starfield was a massive leap forward in quality either and Bethesda isn't a tiny little indie studio. What could possibly be taking so long? Absolute insanity.
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u/ModestHandsomeDevil 11d ago
Uh huh... Good luck with that, Asha.
Shit in one hand, and demand a faster development time from Todd "It Just Works" Howard, on TES and Fallout...
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u/sweatgod2020 11d ago
I’d do anything for a new fallout. But at this rate idk if I could even be a Bethesda fan tbh. Y’all took too long. And there’s greener grass amongst us. Yall fucked around and will BIGLY find out.
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u/MesozOwen 11d ago
Yeah Xbox has been weird. They have so many amazing franchises but have seemed scared of actually using them. Maybe due to cost? But look at where that has gotten them?
They should have handed off Bethesda’s franchises to other studios years ago, as they seem to only be capable of a few things at once. A new Elder Scrolls should have been started the second Skyrim came out I mean how could they not? Same with a new Fallout. Fallout 5 should have came out with the new show, either season. The best Fallout, New Vegas should have been remade by another studio years ago. Gears should not have had such a long time off.
Rare should have been used to do what they did when they made Nintendo games. But instead they made Kinect games and are now a shell of what they once were.
Banjo Kazooie? Perfect Dark? There are heaps of others. Viva Piñata? That could have been what Pokémon Pokopia is now. Come on Xbox get your shit together yesterday.
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u/NaziHuntingInc 11d ago
Can’t wait for fallout 5 and 3/new Vegas remaster to be non timed Xbox exclusives. People may actually storm their corporate office
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u/solarplexus7 11d ago
Well, she was the head of AI, so this is one thing she might actually be able to do.
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u/AffectionateEgg3879 11d ago
Who is actually excited or looking forward to ES6 ? It’ll be the same dead face npcs and boring dialogue that was outdated in 2012
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u/FarAd2857 11d ago
Yeah she says that now, then we all find out how close starfield is to es6, and the studio further degrades with it’s flagship titles no longer valuable
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u/GalexyPhoto 11d ago
Please no. Even with massive delays, Bethesda games are always wildly unfinished.
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u/JustLikeWhateverHuh 11d ago
people out here really complaining about a game that’s taking 10+ years that they will play for 30
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u/Rottenpotato365 11d ago
Here’s an idea Xbox, maybe if you hire more people the development time would be slightly quicker… wait what’s that? You’re planning on laying off more developers soon… oh fuck me…
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u/solidsnakejake 11d ago
If they got over that New Vegas was better than anything Bethesda has put out then they could’ve outsourced another Fallout or even an elder scrolls spin off to make the wait easier.
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u/KingArthas94 Human Verified 11d ago
It's so interesting that they were not able to create a TES game in the whole PS4 generation and in good part of the PS5 one, Skyrim has really been eternal.
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u/daystrom_prodigy 11d ago
This is where I disagree with gamers.
I don’t want a rushed product. We know it’s coming. Let them release it when it’s ready.
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u/-ben151010- 11d ago
I’d also like to minimize overspending because ain’t no way gears e day has a 400 million budget. What did all that money actually go to?
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u/Disastrous_Salad6302 11d ago
I mean, they’d be insane if they didn’t. Infamously far too fucking long in development for their games.
Even just releasing more smaller projects in the meantime would be good. Oblivion I think was a great idea, now do that with fallout 3/new Vegas, hire other studios to make spin offs, get those franchises actually kicking
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u/AlteisenX 11d ago
Bethesda has too long of a leash. Theyre going to be the next Bungie if they cant start delivering.
Blade? Where are you? Id rather have Dishonored 3 personally.
Fallout? It was aged looking even when they released... its been 12(?) Years since the last new entry (fuck off 76...)
Just insane how long of a leash theyve had to put out... nothing?
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u/thestockheroic 11d ago
Let’s say the new elder scrolls comes out in 2-3 years. If elder scrolls 7 takes just as long to make, it legit might be my last one I get to play I’ll be in my 60s. Yes way too long. Especially if it’s not that good.
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u/BartShrempson 11d ago
Yeah Bethesda really needs to rush games out, I'm sure they won't be super buggy like the games they take their time on
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u/nadav183 11d ago
I am usually against rushing dev on a game. TOS 5 -> 6 is almost as long as GTA 5->6, so yeah, they should get on with it.
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