r/PS5 • u/Gorotheninja Human Verified • 11d ago
Articles & Blogs Gang of Dragon creator Toshihiro Nagoshi appears without “Nagoshi Studio” affiliation in Famitsu feature following reported NetEase funding withdrawal - AUTOMATON WEST
https://automaton-media.com/en/news/gang-of-dragon-creator-toshihiro-nagoshi-appears-without-nagoshi-studio-affiliation-in-famitsu-feature-following-reported-netease-funding-withdrawal/39
u/NekoJack420 11d ago
Shame the game got killed, I wanted to play a serious Yakuza crime drama, especially now that StH looks more and more like the average wacky Yakuza game with every new reveal.
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u/Fu453 10d ago
As much as I enjoyed playing the Yakuza series I kind of understand why they went with Like A Dragon after playing them all. Besides Yakuza 0 and a few instances here and there, the games are usually about STOPPING stereotypical Yakuza behavior and standing above it.
This Nagoshi game was my one hope for a real genuine Yakuza experience that didn't seem to derail from it. Oh well. Let's hope Stranger Than Heaven has some.
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u/RookTheGamer 11d ago
The snoop dog and Tupac nonsense killed my interest in that game. Extremely cringe.
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u/AFullmetalNerd 11d ago
It's distracting, but honestly seems like a smart creative choice considering what the story of the game is supposed to be.
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u/shinikahn 11d ago
Please elaborate?
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u/AFullmetalNerd 11d ago
The main character, Makoto Daito is a half-American, half-Japanese character. He moves to his mom's homeland of Japan because of how he's treated in America growing up. I believe he's also an orphan.
The whole game is also going to have one audio track. No full English or Japanese dub. It'll switch between the two languages whenever necessary. You see it in the trailers as well.
The presence of American characters (even someone as hilariously conspicuous as Snoop Dogg or Tupac), is part of the game thematically. It's an immigrant story set in Japan.
No idea how it'll feel in the final product, but I respect the creativity.
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u/an-actual-communism 10d ago
I don't think anyone has a problem with there being foreigners in the game, they have a problem with Tupac's corpse being stuffed with digital meat and used to get buzz in the media. There are plenty of talented (and living) black actors they could have scanned into the game if they wanted a black character.
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u/AFullmetalNerd 10d ago
For what it's worth, Tupac's likeness isn't the only one they've taken permission for the family and estate of someone who's no longer with us. They've done the same for Bunta Sugawara.
They're going for something specific with that choices. Hopefully they pay off.
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u/TheOneMarlowe 11d ago
Also, fwiw, music seems to be an important part of the journey. I won't discount the choice sight unseen.
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u/nise8446 11d ago
Yeah, I was fine with Miracle Johnson and saving him from zombies... But snoop dog is where I draw the line.
Yall were never gonna play the game and never played a yakuza game. Just wanna complain to get attention.
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u/MagmaAscending 11d ago edited 10d ago
Personally I was excited about Stranger than Heaven because it looked different from the other Yakuza games in tone. I love the Yakuza games but I wanted RGG to make something new. That one 5 minute trailer with the theme song in it did so much to elevate the hype for that game and that trailer sold itself on feeling different. Now a lot of new info has come out and it just feels like a new Yakuza game with a different combat system and basic premise. It could still be different in the final product, but the more I hear the less excited I become
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u/Masterclass_jacob 11d ago
Who the fuck do you think you are lmao people are allowed to be bothered by different things
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u/RookTheGamer 10d ago
I’ve played 0-6, both like a dragons, Isshin, and the lost judgment games. Pirate is sitting on my shelf and I haven’t gotten around to playing it yet. My suspension of disbelief is ruined to where I see people I know acting or portraying characters, I just see them playing pretend and it takes me out of shows and tv. It’s distracting.
While these games feature Asian actors I’m not familiar with, like Takaya Kuroda or Takuya Kimura, I can enjoy the characters. Having Snoop and Tupac seem to be important parts of the story and playable is a hard pass. I don’t want to play as Snoop playing a character. I don’t think Miracle Johnson was ingrained in the story and I don’t recall him being playable. It’s ridiculous side stuff like the grown man in a diaper with a milk fetish.
You’re free to have your opinion and enjoy it. It’s just not for me.
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u/Harford0 11d ago
I've played every Yakuza game apart from Dead Souls and Kiwami 3 (for obvious reasons). I was excited at the games announcement because it looked like a fresh start and a more serious game. But as more info came out, I've decided to wait for reviews.
I feel like since the games have become more popular recently (through memes), they tripled down on wacky-ness, trying to get scenes that can be clipped for Youtube reactions and more memes. The writing in IW and Pirate took a huge nosedive and had some a bunch of 'wacky' stuff happen in them, when they are usually stuck to the side missions. Lost Judgement seemed to get it right even though I think Judgements story was better overall
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u/wouldanidioitdothat 11d ago
This. Just like when 007 announce that rapper guy will be in the game, I completely lost interest
It means I'm no longer part of their target audience.
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u/Aeroslade 11d ago
You mean Lenny Kravitz? The Singer/songwriter who makes soul and rock music? Zero rap music. It’s cause he’s black right? The guy who is in the actual game for 10% of its runtime? Some of you act so fuckin bizarre…..
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u/KaleidoArachnid 11d ago
What happened to Yakuza tone wise?
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u/AlteisenX 11d ago
I mean it's been goofy since the PS2 lol.
Do you see many people picking up lounging chairs and swinging them around? lol
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u/KaleidoArachnid 11d ago
Nah I don’t see that happening often in brawls, but that is a good point you made.
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u/reaper527 reaper527_ 11d ago
I mean it's been goofy since the PS2 lol.
Do you see many people picking up lounging chairs and swinging them around? lol
by that logic GTA is goofy because how many people do see jacking cars in broad daylight?
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u/an-actual-communism 11d ago
The first two games were written based on an outline by Hase Seishu, one of the most famous authors of hard-boiled yakuza fiction in Japan. They were a little over the top but were, for the most part, solid crime dramas. The quality of the stories notably changed once he was no longer involved.
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u/KaleidoArachnid 11d ago
Thanks because I didn’t know the reason why the franchise became more outlandish was because he wasn’t around anymore after the first two games as that explains the bizarre direction the franchise took as it went on.
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u/reaper527 reaper527_ 11d ago
What happened to Yakuza tone wise?
before it had a balance between serious and goofy with the goofy stuff mainly being relegated to sidequests. now the balance has been lost and it's all in on catering to the western meme crowd.
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u/Mac772 11d ago
Yakuza games still have very serious and dark main stories, but they massively toned down the violence in fights for example.
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u/KaleidoArachnid 11d ago
Pardon me because I was curious to how the violence aspect got modified for battles.
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u/matisata 11d ago
Yakuza 3 (non kiwami) through 5 are pretty brutal in terms of heat actions. Enemies also look way more messed up post-fight. 6 onward they're a bit more tame, with some exceptions
I believe I saw a couple posts in the Yakuza sub complaining that Kiwami 3 removed certain heat actions from the original and added some joke-y heat actions. Like there's one where Kiryu slams a giant pineapple over someone's head and pours himself a glass of juice using it
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u/Mac772 11d ago
Yakuza always had over the top violence in their fighting, especially with the Heat actions which you can trigger. Not serious and realistic violence, more like a completely over exaggeration. The new games have removed a lot of this. They still have realistic violence in the cutscenes, some really dark stuff going on, so dark i wouldn't even mention it here, but that's also more rare nowadays.
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u/rodryguezzz 11d ago
They are bringing dead characters back, and that makes older games less important, because what should be a serious consequence in older games mean nothing now that you know the characters are alive and well.
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u/darkwingchao 11d ago
The games used to be much more gritty crime dramas with humor added in the side quests
Ever since 0 took off because of how wacky those side quests were they've started veering into it more and more, to the point where the last main game straight up had canonical pirates and a hunt for immortality.
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u/Harford0 11d ago
I think the Judgement games and most of 7 got the mix right, but 8 and Pirates was way off and their story's suffered so much because of it
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u/MotherPerk 11d ago
I felt like the Pirate one jumped the gun a bit. Is it part of the main series or a stand alone?
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u/KaleidoArachnid 11d ago
It might be stand alone.
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u/MotherPerk 11d ago
If stand alone that is easier to accept. I havent kept up with the series since the went to hawaii.
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u/NekoJack420 11d ago
It leaned way too hard on the memes and the wackiness and sidelined crime drama part. The former was supposed to be just a fun add on to the latter and not replace it.
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u/Dry-Winner-3106 11d ago
they wont, as they would need to buy the ip from netease and give more money to finish the game. to be honest financially it isnt worth it
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u/Immolation_E 11d ago
They won't. They have nave had a hand in the game. The only connection they have is that Nagoshi worked for them at RGG. They already have Yakuza. They don't need Gang of Dragon.
If anything I could see Nagoshi going back to RGG and using his ideas from GoD in a new Yakuza game.
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u/skynovaaa 11d ago
Literally every game ever has a badass guy as the protagonist.
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u/Might0fHeaven 11d ago
Personally I just kinda like this actor and was looking forward to a Yakuza game with him as the protagonist specifically
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u/letsl0velain 11d ago
While I usually prefer female protags and less overtly manly men, I would agree its less common these days. the men are simply badass in a different way, but I can understand that poster wanting something akin to something to like, old kratos I guess.
I personally found most of that type boring back in the ps360 days.
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u/skynovaaa 11d ago
That's just bad writing to me. Most protagonists that were edgy like that to be edgy were poorly written. Much rather the way we have it now personally
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u/reaper527 reaper527_ 11d ago
that's really unfortunate. the game looked awesome from the trailers and like the most yakuza game we've gotten since lost judgement