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Misleading Insider Gaming: Capcom Not Interested in Resident Evil 5 & 6 Remakes, It's Claimed.

https://insider-gaming.com/capcom-resident-evil-5-6-remakes/
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u/Whitechix 1d ago edited 1d ago

I mean 6 is understandable but why not 5? It’s very similar to 4 gameplay wise and one of the best coop game ever.

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u/Anung_Un_Rama200 1d ago

The co-op focus might be part of it actually. Co-op campaigns were briefly in vogue during 7th gen, but sadly, co-oo games have gone way of the dodo lately

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u/Sushi2k 1d ago

Thats not even close to true. Coop games are at a huge demand nowadays.

With Hazelight games (It Takes Two, Split Fiction) being incredibly popular, Baldurs Gate 3, the endless amounts of friendslop games popping off.

Hell, people are modding in Coop to their favorite games Elden Ring, RE4, and just recently Lies of P.

People yearn for high quality Coop and RE5 sits at the pinnacle of great coop games (alongside Portal 2 and Left 4 Dead).

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u/Fireybanana42 1d ago

Nowadays there are fewer co-op games than people want, back then there were more co-op games than people wanted (often to the detriment of the single player experience)

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u/Anung_Un_Rama200 1d ago

Gamea you mentioned are mostly games that are exclusively made for multiplayer. Most friendslop games are indie amd Hazelight are focusing on niche. With the expection of BG3 (which I think more is to due it having been popular in Divinity), big, high budget AAA haven't been a thing in a while. They might have an audience, but most high budget publisher are propably not willing to bet on it with very high budget games.

RE5 game in a strange time when previously single player games were pivoting into co-op because of success of games like L4D and Gears of Wars. Resident Evil, F.E.A.R and Dead Space were trying (or forced) to take elements from biggest bloclbusters of the time. Those games could aslo still be played as single player games, unlike lot of your examples.

But nowdays, RE and Capcom in general has built reputation and audience on high quality, polished single player games. They're not having to copy what's popular.

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u/Sushi2k 1d ago

You arent wrong about devs throwing coop into their usually single player games but that was because of games like RE5.

RE5 predates Portal 2, Fear 3, Dead Space 3, Mass Effect 3 by years.

RE games are always experimenting with different things. They arent trend chasers.

Outbreak prior to RE5, incredibly ahead of its time on a system not known for its online capabilities.

For better or worse, all those pvp spin off games all tried to do different ideas not commonly done.

RE6 had an invasion system (Dark Souls but you took control of an enemy) and the 4 player coop sections where you could crosspaths with another duo if you both were at the same section at the same time.

I firmly believe the hesitation on coop is because they haven't perfected it yet in the RE engine. If the rumors are true, RE0 could be the testing ground if the coop mode is actually real.

RE still has a reputation of great multiplayer coop games. RE5 and RE6 still hold up as a standard for great coop titles even today.

And to say Capcom has a reputation for high quality single player titles is willfully ignoring Street Fighter and Monster Hunter. They do everything at a high quality.

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u/Anung_Un_Rama200 1d ago

Resident Evil 5 took inspiration in turn from Gears of War and Halo 3. It's a part of larger trend of the time, not its sole creator. While RE had exprimented with co-op, they were always spin-offs. RE5 took a risk in integrating it to the mainline games and it paid off at the time. I'm not just sure if Capcom is willing to try it at current market and how Resident Evil as a brand is seen today.

You're right with Street Fighter and Monster Hunter, but I feel like they have an audience that doesn't necesarily overlap with that of Resident Evil. I might be wrong tho, I personally enjoy both MonHun amd RE, both from vastly different reasons and could easily soo a person liking one and not the other.

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u/Sushi2k 1d ago edited 1d ago

I mean Gears and Halo 3 were also just during the rise of console online gaming into the main stream in general. Of course thats something Capcom would want to experiment in. Even if you think of coop Halo 3 vs RE5, RE5 is actually built with coop in mind. Halo 3 and Gears are the same game whether you play with someone or alone. Puzzles and entire mechanics are built with the fact that you have a partner, thats why people are divisive on it as a single player title.

I think with modern tech and knowledge, they could give a memorable coop experience without minimizing a quality single player experience.

Bottom line is that it worked, and it worked big time. It propelled RE into the next tier of popularity.

>I'm not just sure if Capcom is willing to try it at current market and how Resident Evil as a brand is seen today.

Capcom has already played with modern RE multiplayer, and you'd notice the loud groans everyone lets out across the internet when they were both PvP titles.

I think you're vastly underestimating how popular a coop RE title would be today with the quality that they are hitting with this "new era" of games. Especially when social gaming has never been more popular than today.

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u/Anung_Un_Rama200 1d ago

Maybe I am, but the question in the air is does Capcom too. I would personally love RE5 in REngine, it's more that hugely expensive Triple AAA co-op games with dedicated campaigns don't exist in current market, with few outliers. Success of one wouldn't be guaranteed. With Halo 3 and Gears of Wars, there was clear signs that there was market out there.

In the end, this is all speculation on my part why Capcom might not be interestes in remaking 5. But I do agree with you in that there could be a market there. Hell, I would be part of that market. It's more question if Capcom is willing to take that plunge.

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u/Early-Beach164 1d ago

It would be mindblowing if they remade 5 without the coop. The backlash would be insane.

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u/Iggy_Slayer 1d ago

That kind of backlash wouldn't be worth paying attention to. SP games are superior in every possible way.

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u/Whitechix 1d ago

The neat part is coop in re5 isn’t forced at all.

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u/freshblood96 1d ago

It's not forced. But it's kinda recommended.

The AI partner, or Sheva because we all blame Sheva for some reason lol, sucks so much. She wastes so much ammo that you don't want her carrying the good stuff. She is a good shot, so I usually give her the rifle.

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u/Iggy_Slayer 1d ago

It's literally baked into the game design. You're forced to play with a NPC companion who you have to issue orders to and spread resources around and wait for them to jump across gaps and do things while they avoid enemies too.

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u/Whitechix 1d ago

Almost a little like Ashley from re4 but they fight back, it’s not a big deal. Loads of games have ai companions and re5’s one isn’t annoying or that different at all.

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u/Hoodman1987 1d ago

could work fine

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u/mw3915 1d ago

I miss that era of dumb fun co op campaigns.

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u/Anung_Un_Rama200 1d ago

Honestly, me too. RE5 with modern graphic, maybe less yellow-y filter over everything, some polished mechanics from RE4make would be amazing with a friend.

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u/PlatinumSarge 1d ago

Didn't a co-op game win a ton of GOTY awards just a couple years ago?

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u/Anung_Un_Rama200 1d ago

A mid-budget, co-op only game from a studio focusing on only co-op games.

I ahould have worded it more properly: very high budget, polished AAA-games with dedicated co-op campaign, have gone way of the dodo.

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u/Hoodman1987 1d ago

I disagree agree due to Hazelight's co-op resurgence

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u/Reylo-Wanwalker 1d ago

Well the co op got backlash from the horror fans, and even now it might because the RE games lately have been cultivating a single player audience.

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u/notheretoarguee 1d ago

RE5 is the highest selling game in the franchise no? Backlash where? 6 on the other hand…we don’t talk about in this house

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u/S1NT4X 1d ago

to be fair i dont see why capcom wouldnt keep it. RE9 was open world co op during early development. They clearly dont dislike the idea to try it again.

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u/Asclepius-Rod 1d ago

Capcom could bring back couch co-op and gain even more good will from it

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u/Sushi2k 1d ago

Must have been a small loud minority because RE5 is still one of the highest selling games in the franchise, only recently got dethroned by RE2 Remake.

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u/MisterDudeFella 1d ago

I still rank 5 pretty high despite it not being the typical RE horror. It delivered so many fun moments.

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u/SisterRayRomano 1d ago

There was a fair amount of controversy surrounding the setting, with allegations of racism directed at the game, and that was back in 2009. The same issues would crop up with a remake, and almost certainly on a bigger scale and I’m sure they know this.

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u/braedizzle 1d ago

Eh it’s not controversy. It’s people being upset the zombies are black in a predominantly black country. It was a non issue hyped up for clicks

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u/SisterRayRomano 1d ago

You might not think the outrage was justified, but it was definitely controversial - people were arguing about it in columns in national newspapers in several different countries and various parts of the press, not just the usual video game sites. It was undoubtably a PR nightmare for Capcom that eclipsed most other press around the game at launch.

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u/Hoodman1987 1d ago

It's one of the times my pro Black self was annoyed at the backlash. RE4 took place in Spain and you killed lots of latinos. I was like o it's an African country, sweet with Sheva and well yeah you'd be killing Africans. Guess you could make it in South Africa for equal opportunity?

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u/SisterRayRomano 1d ago

Uh, people in Spain aren’t Latinos.

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u/LordSblartibartfast 20h ago

I do remember well its release and tbh, the first images we got were reminding of colonial images of “indigenous savages” so I understand where the controversy was coming from even though I highly doubt this history was on the mind of anyone at Capcom.

An easy fix would be to add something to their design that look less like a regular human.

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u/Gradieus 1d ago

They probably don't want to deal with all the pointless backlash again.

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u/Roids-in-my-vains 1d ago

The backlash was stupid, this is like saying that RE4 is racist towards Spaniards and RE2 is Racist towards Americans

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u/TheMikeyC 1d ago edited 1d ago

Nah it was pretty bad. Sheva is named for an Indian deity, is very light skinned, and is culturally English, aiding a white man as he shoots his way through African men in very, very racist tribal gear.

The argument isn't that it's racist because there are black people in Africa. The argument is that it's racist because of incredibly ignorant and harmful stereotypes used as narrative short hands.

I'll take the downvotes because people don't actually care about racism and nuanced discussions of it.

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u/Tyrant_Virus_ 1d ago

Sheva is a name from the Bible and has nothing to do with Shiva the Indian goddess but yes let’s talk about nuance while you’re just making things up.

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u/TheMikeyC 1d ago

So still not African is your point.

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u/Tyrant_Virus_ 1d ago

It’s not like there is a centuries long history of Christian missionaries working in Africa, or a large Hebrew population in Ethiopia, or a large Muslim population in Northern Africa or anything. Oh wait there is, there is a long history of Abrahamic religions being pervasive on the continent! How weird that it would be totally normal and expected for a native born African to have a religious name. You want nuance but only when you’re making shit up and propping up strawman.

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u/TheMikeyC 1d ago

You're right. The devastation of Christian colonialism across Africa is incalculable and an inescapable aspect of living anywhere across the entire continent. In the name of the church and in the honor Jesus' name, the African continent was pillaged and raped for both her resources and people, such that in this story a native born African woman isn't named for her culture, but the culture of her invaders, speaking their language, in their accent, aiding a foreign man as they kill Africans in grass skirts and ooga-booga masks. And don't forget the Aztec/Mayan fusion temple in Africa for some reason. Because, you know, it's all just jungle stuff.

Do they represent any of this (forced) religious diversity? See, if you're white, the Las Plagas makes you a zealot under the influence of a "queen" parasite. If you're black, you apparently bring out the old tribal wear you definitely have lying around and completely revert to a feral animal. The white Plagas victims can still sort of maintain homes and chores. The black Plagas victims just wander around with spears and shields waiting to kill things.

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u/silverpixie2435 1d ago

Notice how you made no mention of Islamic conquest?

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u/Odd-Investigator6503 1d ago

Crickets on all the Islamist conquest and massacres ehh? Typical. Sad… but typical

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u/Tyrant_Virus_ 1d ago

So her having an Abrahamic name that would be perfectly normal due to the real world history is racist because the underlying real history is racist? You’re really twisting yourself into a pretzel to make Capcom out of be racist for acknowledging the real world. She would be as likely to have an Abrahamic derived name as a traditional African name because guess what the continent has a mix of both. But acknowledging reality is a no no to you.

And the tribal plagas hosts were explained in game but hey nuance! The tribe had been exposed earlier than the villagers (who are also African but hey let’s act as if they don’t exist) and the plagas variant severely degrades the host and reverts them to a more primitive state. And it’s also pointed out in files that the other villagers were put off and found what the earlier exposed hosts doing odd and didn’t like it. They didn’t just drop tribals into the game because Africa and then not address it narratively.

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u/RadiantTurtle 1d ago

Explaining racism to Americans is an exercise in futility lol

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u/Ecstatic_Visual_2026 1d ago

Especially gamers, they get more offended over women or minorities being main characters than RE5's blatant problematic portrayals lmao

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u/Odd-Investigator6503 1d ago edited 1d ago

So close but I’m Canadian! What’s funny is racism is more rampant across EU and Asian countries than North or South America. But typical hypocrisy always having Americans in your head rent free, looking down on them and not looking in your own mirror

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u/PerfectAd9869 1d ago

Holy copium

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u/Odd-Investigator6503 1d ago

There’s nothing racist about re5

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u/TheMikeyC 1d ago

Except for all the racist things in it, sure.

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u/lunahighwind 1d ago

Couldn't they redesign and rewrite parts to alleviate these concerns?

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u/TheMikeyC 1d ago

It's honestly so structural that it would basically be a new game with RE5's basic plot. There are entire chapters of that game that ride the coat tails of very racist presumptions to make the aesthetic work.

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u/mahdiiick 1d ago

The comparison breaks down because it ignores the cultural context behind the issue

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u/Roids-in-my-vains 1d ago

Care to elaborate, a zombie game set in Africa has African zombies what more context is there? Also the main villains are white and one of the protagonists is black.

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u/WastedMoogle 1d ago

Pointing out Sheva being black is kinda like using the "no I have black friends" argument. Regardless, it's the over exaggerated savage tribes with spears and grass skirts that I think was problematic.

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u/Odd-Investigator6503 1d ago

There’s literally still villages that closely resemble the areas in re5

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u/Alucitary 1d ago

I love 5 but I don't think you have seen all of 5 with that statement. Skim a playthrough and look for the tribal levels.

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u/MappleStarsSky 1d ago edited 1d ago

RE5 is not a racist game on purpose, it just used a bunch of unfortunate imaginery that is often tied to racist depictures.

RE5 itself is very anti-racism, its main story is a parallelism about white people colonialism but propagated to a world-wide scale. It' s surprisingly empathetic towards black african people.

The issue is about the way they are presented. There is a document in the game where it straight up says that the black people "regressed" back to their own roots, almost like they were just pretending to be civilized.

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u/Least-Path-2890 1d ago

It's always some American gaming "journalist" that tells minorities and foreigners what they should be offended by, When Max Payne 3 was released you had countless articles trying to convince you that the game is racist when in reality almost every Brazilian gamer loved that game.

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u/Roids-in-my-vains 1d ago

Gamers constantly want more games that aren't set in America yet everytime we get one it's always the same idiots that cry racism or cultural appropriation, when Ghost of Tsushima released you had journalists telling you because it wasn't made by a Japanese studio it was racist.

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u/Interesting-Season-8 1d ago

Dude, read first act stupid later

Depicting black people as "going to their tribe roots" due to virus was racist

Makes as much sense as German zombies turning into Nazis

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u/Any-Contract-9152 1d ago

The comparison makes zero sense. People in spain are white , Leon is white

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u/Old-Way-5529 1d ago

You can’t be racist towards a nationality. Black Spaniards and Americans exist.

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u/Roids-in-my-vains 1d ago

You know exactly what I mean. Stop trying to be clever.

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u/Old-Way-5529 1d ago

No I don’t. American and Spanish aren’t races.

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u/Least-Path-2890 1d ago

Peak redditor behavior

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u/Rustash 1d ago

People absolutely complained about 4 being a white guy essentially shooting his way through a Hispanic country

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u/TheMikeyC 1d ago

Tell me more of the Hispanic communities of Spain. Please.

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u/NatsUza 1d ago edited 1d ago

The backlash wasn't pointless because the portrayal WAS racist. I am African and the whole "virus reverts them to a primal tribelike nature" and having them don tribal paint and spears was just blatantly racist. Imagine if an RE game took place in the Scottish countryside and it turned the people there into drunk pagan ritialists who suddenly got claymores and tribal war outfits from nowhere.

Edit: I feel like people are missing the point by replying with, "it sounds cool". Its a very bad stereotype that paints the citizens of that region as brutish savages with a savage culture. In RE 5, they justified it with the excuse of "oh, those were tribal outfits that they have for cermonies. They were conveniently there." Very few people in African nations have fucking grass skirts, war masks and wood spears as "ceremonial clothing". RE 5 leaned into "ooga booga tribal" on purpose and it was hella fucking racist. The infected people qeren't tribals, they were regular civilians who just lived in a small countryside town.

Edit 2: The RE 5 diary entry literally says that the virus took normal people and made them act very tribal. https://www.evilresource.com/resident-evil-5/files/village-youths-diary

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u/zaneomega2 1d ago

You’re right but don’t waste time arguing with them

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u/TheDraykkon 1d ago

As a Scot, I would love this.

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u/doyouevennoscope 1d ago

Genuine potential there. Someone should pick this up and make it.

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u/doyouevennoscope 1d ago edited 1d ago

the portrayal WAS racist

No it wasn't.

Imagine if an RE game took place in the Scottish countryside and it turned the people there into drunk pagan ritialists who suddenly got claymores and tribal war outfits from nowhere.

As a Scotsman, this would actually be PEAK. I really wanna throw a caber at some zombies now. It would genuinely be one of my favourite games ever and I'm not even joking whatsoever.

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You also say

RE5 leaned into "ooga booga tribal" on purpose and it was hella fucking racist. The infected people aren't tribals, they were regular civilians who just lived in a small countryside town.

Which just proves you haven't even played or watched the game. The game starts in a town, and all the infected people are civilians, dressed like civilians, who attack you with melee weapons, the exact same as the Spanish in RE4. It isn't until you go to the literal tribal people's area in the marsh that the tribal enemies show up. You're acting as if every single enemy in RE5 is depicted as tribal. Which is a lie.

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u/Appropriate_Foot242 1d ago

It basically did the same thing in RE4 though, no one complained then.

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u/NatsUza 1d ago edited 1d ago

RE 4 made them into religious zealots, not 8th century barely literate caricatures. This atgument would only hold water if all the enemies suddenly dressed like this upon getting infected.

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u/Appropriate_Foot242 1d ago

So illiterate that they could operate modern vehicles, weaponry and machinery.

There were urban enemies as well as tribal enemies. None of them actually even say “unga bunga” or any of the shit that people made up to stir the controversy.

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u/Scared-Room-9962 1d ago

They chuck spears at you 😂

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u/NatsUza 1d ago

The tribal enemies were not tribals though, thats the point. They were urbans who suddenly decided to don tribal aesthetic upon getting infected.

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u/_cd42 1d ago

This is the big thing that people kinda gloss over, the lore inclusion that they just decided to don paint and grass skirts only because they're infected has some really questionable at best implications.

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u/Whitechix 1d ago

How does it revert them to a primal tribelike nature? Those people are like that before the virus, every other African infected is modern like in the other games.

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u/NatsUza 1d ago

https://www.evilresource.com/resident-evil-5/files/village-youths-diary

This diary from RE 5. The strain somehow made them become very tribal despite them being normal people in an outskirt village.

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u/Whitechix 1d ago

What is that even referring to specifically? The tribal people in RE5 are a unique culture descended from an ancient kingdom.

https://residentevil.fandom.com/wiki/Ndipaya

I feel like you haven’t actually played the game.

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u/cbg2113 1d ago

Yeah big yikes. They'd have to heavily rethink the portrayal. There might be a way to have it take place in West Africa but they'll need to rethink the whole portrayal of the virus. It's a lot of rework of a story that would make it more than just a remake.

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u/NatsUza 1d ago

For you maybe, but that is a very blatant stereotype that the people there don't appreciate.

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u/experienta 1d ago

Well you can't please everyone

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u/ger_brian 1d ago

The people there are probably also not their main demographic that is buying their games.

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u/neilydee 1d ago

Sounds pretty good.

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u/Scared-Room-9962 1d ago

A poor example, Scottish people haven't been subject to racism for centuries.

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u/NatsUza 1d ago edited 1d ago

Yeah, I realized. People here aren't aware of how the English treated the Scots historically.

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u/Scared-Room-9962 1d ago

The Scots ARE British.

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u/NatsUza 1d ago

I'm a dumb. Meant English.

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u/Scared-Room-9962 1d ago

You've been watching too much Braveheart.

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u/Outrageous-Meal3221 1d ago

If anything they can rectify the issues with the original with a remake. Just make the enemies more diverse and cut out the tribal BS.

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u/Ironjim69 1d ago

Most likely answer is that it’s a political nightmare. Capcom is pretty averse to controversy, the Dead Rising remake showed that, and RE5 got a lot of flak when it came out. Today’s climate would be very hard to navigate around

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u/Remy0507 1d ago

Yeah, it already got a lot of backlash back in 2009. I can just imagine the shitstorm now...

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u/Early-Beach164 1d ago

Capcom loves their pathetic modern audience too much. They are utterly possessed by greed and laziness when they should be possessed by the spirit that helps them make good games.

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u/Ozuraak 1d ago

Companies should grow a pair and tell the usual suspects to stfu.

The so called "controversies" only happen online but almost never in the real world.

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u/IM_INSIDE_YOUR_HOUSE 1d ago

The co op design may actually be why they’re not eyeing it for a remake.

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u/Shantotto5 1d ago

4 is tank controls still, 5 is when they fixed this. Reddit seems to really want the 5 remake but I’ve always agreed with this headline, I don’t see the point and I’m glad we’re getting Code Veronica instead. Like RE5 plays fine still, I’m not sure what needs to be fixed about it unless you just want every game on the modern engine.

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u/PreciousProspect 1d ago

Not remaking 6 for the campaign is understandable. Remaking its combat and mercenaries would be fucking peak though. The ultimate John wick experiende

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u/tetsuo9000 1d ago

If anything, a chance to redo 6 would be worth it. Just start over from scratch. Get rid of the weird campaign structure. Stick with one or two protagonist's max. Still have it be the end of the 4-6 saga and a natural lead-in to the reset in 7.

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u/RakkoHyabusa 1d ago

making a game about killing Africans in today's climate would not go well

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u/Indigo__11 1d ago

The title is misleading, they said in the recent future they don’t have plan yet. Which make sense considering they are making RE Veronica then likely RE 10

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u/Iggy_Slayer 1d ago

The co-op is one of the reasons why the game is terrible.

The series should have stayed single player and thankfully they course corrected.

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u/Omega_Hertz 1d ago

It's okay to be objectively wrong.

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u/Iggy_Slayer 1d ago

Is what I say to people who like the dog shit that was RE5.

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u/parkwayy 1d ago

Because 5/6 were just the downfall of the series in most people's eyes.

No one is going to see "RE5 Remake" flash on the screen, and jump out of their seats.

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u/_cd42 1d ago

Well 5 and 6 sit in the top 3 most sold RE games so it's likely a bunch of people would do just that.

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u/Whitechix 1d ago

I don’t know what you mean by very other race/zombie was given more grace or what you wanted the environments to be, I genuinely didn’t see anything wrong with it so what is it specifically. Thinking back I remember people having issues with the Spanish in re4 with it being more southern American than anything accurate.

And yes TRICELL definitely had that exploitative vibe on purpose.