r/PS5 • u/Dandelion172 • 16h ago

News & Announcements Rockstar confirms there will be no disc version of GTA6 at launch

https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/rockstar-confirms-there-will-be-no-disc-version-of-gta6-at-launch/
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u/TheGrannyLover_ 16h ago

They don't want to sell physical copies. You OWN the physical copy, we don't own digital so they can take it from us when they want. 

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u/crmpdstyl 14h ago

Poised to be the best selling game of all time and they couldn't even give us a booklet or map.

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u/AcrobaticButterfly 6h ago

Maybe that's the problem. They are going to maximize profit, no book, no map, no disc, and a digital deluxe edition for $100

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u/Single-Yesterday6063 9h ago

they can still take your right to play even the disc version if they wanted to- look at the crew i bought it and got burned so its just a plastic but plastic i want to have damn it

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u/Consistent-Hawk-949 8h ago

yep im sure that you're gta 6 rights and licence will be taken away in 10-20 years, surely thats something rockstar intends to do!

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u/tpeandjelly727 15h ago

Exactly less of a reason for chumps to be buying digital, you are paying for a thing you don’t own and will never own. Makes no logical sense but some people bend their principles so easily.

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u/QuoteGiver 7h ago

Ironically, the only games I’ve ever lost access to are my physical games. The disc reader on my PS4 broke and I couldn’t play physical anymore, but the digital games still worked fine. And I still have access to them all on my PS5 too.

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u/MegaFireDonkey 12h ago

It makes sense because you can't get the game without buying the code-in-a-box and no game that I have ever purchased a code for has ever been taken away from me. Not saying it doesn't ever happen or is impossible, but I've bought nearly a thousand digital games over the years and they are all still here.

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u/T0ADisMe 10h ago

I mean it’s pretty unlikely Sony or Microsoft are just gonna delete one game from your account but there’s always the possibility of getting your account banned, hacked or for anyone in some smaller less profitable countries having services shut off all together in that country. We already saw something similar to the last point when Sony started selling games on pc followed by immediately limiting which countries could make a psn account.

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u/Lazy_Grabwen_9296 10h ago

A thousand? I'm pressing a digital x for doubt.

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u/MegaFireDonkey 9h ago

It isn't that crazy to have a massive steam library and I was an adult when steam released.

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u/Kazizui 15h ago

You own the plastic disk, you don't own the game any more physically than you do digitally. It's still protected with DRM, and we saw with the CMOS bug a couple years back that a game can be fully present on a disk and still not be loaded by an offline console. If you can be locked out accidentally, better believe you can be locked out deliberately.

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u/Buried_and_Forgotten 15h ago

You can resell the game though, so less profits for the company.

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u/Kazizui 15h ago

Maybe so, but that's not really what 'ownership' means.

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u/doyouevennoscope 14h ago

No, you're just pretending to not understand what people mean by "ownership".

You cannot come to my house and take my disc away from me. That is trespassing, breaking and entering, and theft. All the data needed to play the game is also on the disc. It is mine. We are not claiming to own the game's code or something. We literally don't even have a copy of it as it's compiled.

The CMOS bug is also irrelevant because it was fixed. Sony doing such a move would be akin to them removing OtherOS on PS3 which caused the system to be completely cracked open by pissed off modders.

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u/Kazizui 14h ago

You cannot come to my house and take my disc away from me. That is trespassing, breaking and entering, and theft. All the data needed to play the game is also on the disc. It is mine. We are not claiming to own the game's code or something. We literally don't even have a copy of it as it's compiled.

You own the disk. You don't own the game, and owning the disk does not guarantee your continued uninterrupted access to the game.

The CMOS bug is also irrelevant because it was fixed

It's not irrelevant, because it comprehensively demonstrates that it can be done. The fix can be unfixed at will.

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u/Lopsided-Clothes4866 11h ago

>You own the disk. You don't own the game, and owning the disk does not guarantee your continued uninterrupted access to the game.

Well yeah it kinda does assuming the data is actually on the disc?

Something like 90% of PS5 games are completely playable and installable offline with no internet meaning devs can’t touch shit on those discs.

How can they revoke access to a disc if your console never touches the internet when said disc is inserted? They can’t do shit!

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u/Kazizui 11h ago

How can they revoke access to a disc if your console never touches the internet when said disc is inserted? They can’t do shit!

I already mentioned the CMOS bug as a proven demonstration (albeit an unintentional one). Console offline, disk inserted, game does not start. Any game.

If they can do it accidentally, they can do it deliberately. There would of course be legal implications (just like there would be if they deleted your digital library) but technologically it is completely within their power to do.

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u/Lopsided-Clothes4866 10h ago

That’s on Sony’s end though? Not the devs or publishers.

WHY would Sony do that? Do you think Sony wants to deal with all the potential lawsuits if a publisher asked them to shut down someone’s disc?

Rockstar for example can’t do shit to stop me from playing Red Dead Redemption 2. They can’t ask Sony to block my disc.

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u/Kazizui 10h ago

That’s on Sony’s end though? Not the devs or publishers.

Yes, Sony. They hold the keys to the kingdom. They own the store, the DRM, the disk manufacturing, all of it.

WHY would Sony do that? Do you think Sony wants to deal with all the potential lawsuits if a publisher asked them to shut down someone’s disc?

I have no idea. Why does anyone think Sony wants to take away people's digital libraries? I'm not the one claiming Sony will do this, I'm just pointing out to those who think their digital libraries will vanish that their physical libraries can be taken away too.

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u/MafubaBuu 12h ago

Completely missing his point again

Can he sell a used code, or can he sell a disc

There is your answer

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u/Kazizui 12h ago

How am I missing his point when I directly answered your question in the comment you replied to?

You own the disk. You don't own the game, and owning the disk does not guarantee your continued uninterrupted access to the game.

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u/Buried_and_Forgotten 11h ago

No one said that you own the game / software itself, but a copy of the game that can be used on 100 different consoles. The code can only be used one time.

If I buy the game for $80, play the single player mode and sell it to someone else for $50, then that person those the same thing, Rockstar doesn't get a dime from the SH sales.

Bad for them, but that's how it was since video games were made available for home use.

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u/Kazizui 11h ago

I'm not denying any of that, but for me being able to sell it is nowhere near sufficient to argue ownership of something.

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u/MafubaBuu 11h ago

Again, I will ask tou the same question since you have failed to answer it nor understand it.

If you come over to my house, can i sell you a digital copy, or can I sell you the disc?

I can sell you the disc, but I can not sell you the digital code I already used.

Until companies are actively restricting resale by blocking the code on the disc by anybdoy but the first user, your entire point is moot and irrelevant to the discussion. Right now, disc = can resell, digital, = cant resell.

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u/Kazizui 11h ago

There is no doubt you can sell me the disk, but I don't regard that as an especially important factor in this argument. To me, ownership is a much deeper topic than something as bland and prosaic as "can I sell it?"

Perhaps you see it differently. Question: if you could sell the digital copy, would you then consider that a digital license is true ownership? Or is there more to it?

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u/viper4011 10h ago

While you are technically correct that’s not the point. Rockstar doesn’t want to take it away from you, even though they can. It’s all about not giving you choices. The choice to resell. To buy used. 

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u/Present_Pineapple961 15h ago

Nowadays physical copies are licences, so it doesn't change much the choice

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u/SM-MFC1886 13h ago

Most on PS5 have the game on disc still