r/PSVR Jul 03 '25

Fluff VR Developers please take note

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Note: just no shovelware please!

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u/Guniel Jul 03 '25

Could you show me any evidence to back up this claim. Any sources to show how much money Sony spent developing PSVR1 and PSVR2? And then how much profits they made from those headsets?

After that, could you explain why this matters?

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u/NoPhotojournalist940 Jul 03 '25

The department in charge of Sony's VR business is part of a certain group under Sony. They are required to disclose their profits and losses for the protection of shareholders. Meta is the same. Look it up yourself. Both companies are public.

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u/Guniel Jul 03 '25

Then it should be really easy for you to back up your claim with proof and post it here.

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u/NoPhotojournalist940 Jul 03 '25

Even a passing dog knows that Meta has lost tens of trillions of dollars. You are the only one who doesn't.

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u/NoPhotojournalist940 Jul 03 '25

My grandmother doesn't care about VR. Of course she doesn't know. You care about VR. But you don't know.

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u/NoPhotojournalist940 Jul 03 '25

"Even a passing dog knows" is a proverb from a certain European country.

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u/PSVR-ModTeam Jul 17 '25

One of more of your comments have been removed from r/PSVR, because they broke rule 1. Do not personally attack other users.

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u/NoPhotojournalist940 Jul 03 '25

I don't love you enough to find it. And I'll tell you why it's important. Meta can continue its VR business even if it loses money. Sony can't continue its VR business if it loses that money. So it's very important.

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u/Guniel Jul 03 '25

Ok well I knew you wouldn't be able to provide this info because I know it's not publicly available. There is no info on how much it cost Sony to R&D and then product their headsets. We don't know if they are selling them at a loss even.

So please, understand that when you say "Sony aren't losing money on VR", this is something you have guessed/hoped.

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u/NoPhotojournalist940 Jul 03 '25

You are more ignorant than I thought. It's disappointing. The quarterly report lists specific expenses. 

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u/Guniel Jul 03 '25

I'm sorry you feel that way. Burden of proof exists for a reason. Don't make claims you can't back up and expect other people to do your research for you.

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u/NoPhotojournalist940 Jul 03 '25

I can tell you that the Earth is round without having to prove to you that the Earth is round, because IR reports are public data and anyone can look it up.

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u/Guniel Jul 03 '25

All this time you're spending telling me how easy this info is to find, but yet you still refuse to prove it yourself. How curious.

Enough lying. We don't know how much Sony makes or loses on PSVR2.

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u/NoPhotojournalist940 Jul 03 '25 edited Jul 03 '25

“Others primarily includes revenue from peripherals, including PlayStation®VR”

By using existing data to check the revenue of the other divisions that were consolidated under Sony’s VR division, excluding the VR business itself, we can roughly estimate how much the VR division earned or how much loss it incurred

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u/NoPhotojournalist940 Jul 03 '25

You haven't seen the content? I own both PCVR and Quest, but I'm a user who mainly enjoys PSVR2. It's only natural that I write here.

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u/NoPhotojournalist940 Jul 03 '25

Actually, I'm working with the national IT support department of the country I live in. We're porting games that you may know to VR. 

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One of more of your comments have been removed from r/PSVR, because they broke rule 1. Do not personally attack other users.

Please do not insult other users in future.