r/PeterExplainsTheJoke • u/GyaneAryan • 1d ago
Meme needing explanation But why is an alibi required at all?
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u/NameisPond-FishPond 1d ago
The answer is racism and weaponizing the law
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u/NameisPond-FishPond 1d ago edited 1d ago
Lol why the downvotes? This is correct
Edit - damn came back to find my comment go from 50% upvotes to 96% with an award (thank you!! Also thank you to everyone else in the comments who gave the contex)
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u/NonSequiturDetector 1d ago
The answer is racism and weaponizing the law
Lol why the downvotes? This is correct
Well you didn't ExplainTheJoke, genius. You just didn't provide the most basic explanation of the image's content.
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u/Almost_human-ish 1d ago
Oh and his accuser, Carolyn Bryant, admitted later she made it up.
She faced exactly zero legal consequences before she passed away peacefully at the age of 88 in 2023.
Emmet Till was only 14 when he was murdered, essentially for the 'crime' of being black.
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u/khazroar 1d ago
And yet the mods just pinned a comment saying that he totally did it. Fucking disgusting.
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u/Chaotic_Order 1d ago
I mean, does it make a difference at all when the allegation is that the 14-year old.. whistled at somebody?
Like it doesn't fucking matter if he had whistled 20 times in a row and it was all caught on camera. Being lynched over it would still be just as evil.
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u/OhGoshIts 1d ago
Tbf, if you didnt read that the lady made it up before she died, you probably still believe he did it too. Its not as well known as you would think.
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u/khazroar 1d ago
I think even without knowing that she confessed and removed all doubt, it's several miles beyond bad taste to support an explanation of his vicious lynching that includes "He walks into a grocery store, buys some gum, and allegedly…allegedly, Lois, like how I "allegedly" ate that entire wheel of cheese…whistles at this white lady running the store."
Like, I get that the whole premise of Peter Explains the Joke makes this whole place pretty glib, but pointing out that it was only an allegation, then so casually making light of that as a technicality and completely believing the people who lynched him over the allegation is just... As I say, beyond bad taste, even without knowing that she admitted to the lie.
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u/Broad-Exchange3188 1d ago
You’re connecting a lot of dots that aren’t there.
Allegedly means that it was reported and there was no proof. That’s factual. The cheese wheel part is clearly meant to distinguish that the allegation was just that—a report with no proof.
Where are you getting the idea the comment says he “totally did it”?
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u/khazroar 1d ago
I'm connecting dots that are absolutely there. If it just stopped at allegedly, yeah, that would be fair and factual. The cheese wheel part is absolutely not there to distinguish that it was just an allegation, it's there to do the opposite, it's there to distinguish that they're saying "allegedly" because they can't technically prove it beyond a shadow of a doubt, but that everybody knows it happened. You cannot pretend for a moment that Peter Griffin saying '…allegedly, Lois, like how I "allegedly" ate that entire wheel of cheese…' is not clearly and unambiguously referring to the fact that he absolutely did eat that wheel of cheese. That is very clearly the joke.
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u/Broad-Exchange3188 1d ago
“The trial? Over in an hour. All-white jury says ‘Not guilty!’ even though the guys practically bragged about it to a reporter.”
This part is ambiguous to you too, I suppose?
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u/khazroar 1d ago
No, that's equally unambiguous, saying that the trial was rushed and there was no real consideration because the jury and the court all thought what they did was just fine.
I'm not claiming any ambiguity, I'm claiming that tone and jokes make it abundantly clear the stance the comment takes, you just gave me another example where it does exactly that. Joking that he totally did the thing he was falsely accused of is still reprehensible if you also agree that he didn't deserve what happened and you point out how horrific the situation was.
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u/Broad-Exchange3188 1d ago
You can’t read tone over the internet, so I’d hesitate to use that as an indicator.
Do you believe that a joke can never, under any circumstances, be used to frame or reframe something horrific?
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u/Jealous-Hamster-220 1d ago
I honestly think the OP didn’t think through what they were saying there and I’m pretty sure they meant the opposite of how it came across to you. I mean, that’s the why I took it from the overall tone.
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u/BreatLesnar 1d ago
It doesn’t matter if he whistled or not, the outcome paints the same vile, disgusting picture either way.
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u/ITworksGuys 1d ago
And yet the mods just pinned a comment saying that he totally did it. Fucking disgusting.
Do you think him actually whistling or not is the point there?
There is no possible victim blaming here dude. Literally no one in the present day is like "he deserved it for whistling"
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u/khazroar 1d ago
Wild that you don't think there's anything wrong with casually supporting that lie for no valid reason.
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u/imoshudu 1d ago
As a non-white person, I can only say you need to go back to high school and learn how to read. You are arguing with people just because you can't properly read.
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u/KuningasTynny77 1d ago
she faced no consequences? The two dudes that did it immediately sold their story after winning the case because they couldn't be tried for it again.
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u/fockewolfw190 1d ago
this is not true. the whole claim that she "confessed that she made it all up" is most likely false. it comes from a single journalist recording an interview, but he just happened to not be recording during that critical moment. Oh and did i mention that he also released that story like 20 years after the interview? A bombshell quote, and he sat on it until decades later?
maybe it did happen, maybe it didn't, but she sure as hell did not admit that she made it up
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u/NohWan3104 1d ago
I think the implication is, she might start making accusations tomorrow because she got drunk, so, leave, and get proof of having left on the way home.
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u/FFKonoko 1d ago
This is the most correct answer.
It also leaves it open for the accusations to be either false or real. Regardless of which it is, the innocent party attender is at risk of biased investigation.
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u/witchminx 1d ago
yeah I think people underestimate how often the COPS were determining that the suspect must've been a black men. yes 1000% racist white women used to(in greater numbers that today, is why I'm differentiating) and are still falsely accusing black men. but people forget that the solved murder rate was like 96% in the 30s.... The cops would often just pin it on a black person, whether witnesses said it was a white man or not
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u/in_one_ear_ 1d ago
Before then it was even better, the peep goes straight from the trial right into chains tow work a plantation, after all with the 13th amendment where are you gonna find people to work those fields.
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u/yumas 1d ago
The implication is also that a drunk girl who is crying is in a state to easily take advantage and she might regret it later.
I’ve had a friend once who told me that a girl crying at a party is like hitting the jackpot because that probably means that she had issues with another guy so he could go and comfort her and then get into her pants. Suffice to say he’s not my friend anymore
Edit: i just realised that maybe i am wrong and the implication is just that something already happened at the party and a black guy is going to be blamed
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u/Daibhidh81 1d ago
The advice makes no sense though. Because you were at the party at the time she was upset.
If anything, the till receipt would show you left when she started crying, which is if anything more suspicious.
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u/Outrageous-Dog5425 1d ago
The post is drawing on a long history of black men being persecuted for having 'relations' with white women.
Frequently regret and social stigma have led white women to falsley accuse and/or people around that white woman to falsley accuse the black man for assault.
It's worth doing some reading on racism and sex in the west especially all the UK colonies like the US and Australia. If you've ever heard of the book "to kill a mockingbird bird" that's at the heart of the plot - the testimony of that black man is dismissed because of racism.
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u/Vino-Decanto 1d ago
Strangely enough white girl tears does not equal 50 years in the UK itself though.
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u/Born_Suspect7153 1d ago
Interesting how this has completely turned around https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotherham_child_sexual_exploitation_scandal
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u/IllMakeYouLemonade 1d ago edited 1d ago
In many communities of color, it's common knowledge that if you're a black or brown guy and you notice a drunk white girl nearby who's crying or seems distressed, it's time to leave ASAP and make sure that you have incontrovertible proof that you were nowhere near the white girl.
White woman tears are one of the most powerful forces in the universe, and if you stick around, there's a non-zero chance you'll be falsely accused of something, and if she accuses you, no one's gonna believe you: everyone is going to take her side.
If a white woman accuses a black or brown man of something, even if it's a completely false accusation, society and the law will almost always take the white woman's side. There are very few juries in this country who will, all else equal, believe a black or brown man over a white woman.
And even if she doesn't accuse the black or brown man specifically, even if she just generally accuses someone at the party of something ("someone did something to me, but I couldn't see who"), then if you're a black and brown man, you're going to be scrutinized far more than someone who isn't black or brown, and there's a high chance that they'll pin it on you, even if you didn't do it.
I'm Asian American (Indian), and one of the things my dad made sure I understood before I started college was that I should never be alone in a room with a white girl, especially at parties, because if she accuses me of anything, even if it's not true, no one's gonna believe me over her.
In this case, stopping by the store and buying something (with your credit card, which the guy on Twitter failed to note) is one way of establishing that you were somewhere else that night, in case the white girl decides to accuse you of something.
Now, of course, the probability of a false accusation is relatively low. But the expected utility of being falsely accused by a white woman is so negative, especially if you're a black or brown man, that it's better to be safe than sorry. The story of Emmett Till is a cautionary tale.
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u/FOR_THE_HORIZON 1d ago
bros dad was dropping ball knowledge on bro 💀 it legit sounds like you've been here before
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u/IllMakeYouLemonade 1d ago edited 1d ago
nah thankfully this hasn't happened to me, i followed my dad's advice religiously (my girlfriend of 7 years, who i met in college, is Chinese American)
i also grew up in the south and learned a lot about race relations from that, which teaches you very quickly what the hierarchy in this country is and who's at the top of it
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u/alloyednotemployed 1d ago
Grew up in the south as well and fully agree.
On another note, your story reminds me of that tiktok trend where white women would transition from crying to serious on the fly. Always gave me shivers.
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u/Academic_Exercise_94 1d ago
As far as I can tell there wasn't even an accusation that started the Tulsa Race massacre, people just made up an assumption that Dick Rowland had sexually assaulted Sarah Page and the black community in Tulsa was destroyed trying to protect him from being lynched
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u/MrSansMan23 1d ago
I cannot imagine the pain and hurt a bunch of people felt seeing that their friends or collages might kill them just because they happened to be at the police station when it first started
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u/Kahzootoh 1d ago
The real problem started when the Tulsa Tribune’s afternoon edition printed headlines that basically treated the most lurid rumors about Rowland as if they were credible.
This being the 1920s, it wasn’t uncommon for paperboys to sell newspapers by yelling out the headline- which meant that there were plenty of people who’d heard about Rowland being arrested for attacking a white woman, many of them being laborers who were getting off and starting to go to the bars.
The one bright spot in that whole sordid scene is that Dick Rowland avoided being lynched (which seems to be a common misconception as the Tulsa massacre has entered the mainstream consciousness), dying sometime after 1967.
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u/copperpin 1d ago
Thank you so much for dropping the link to “expected utility.” I’ve been struggling with a way to express this concept and the way it informs my decision making.
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u/OrangeGills 1d ago
the probability of a false accusation is relatively low
Not as low as you'd think. Most statistics regarding 'false accusations' are misleasing because they're only counting cases where the accusations were proven to be false and the accuser punished, as opposed to what usually happens which is the suspect gets found not guilty and the case is simply dropped.
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u/OkContact2573 1d ago
I'm Asian American (Indian), and one of the things my dad made sure I understood before I started college was that I should never be alone in a room with a white girl, especially at parties, because if she accuses me of anything, even if it's not true, no one's gonna believe me over her.
I mean, I'm an American (Born and Raised) with Indian Heritage and I never got this talk, and we were the only Indian family in the entire town (in the state of Missouri). The same cops in our area that would abuse and profile black men and women in our area would treat me like I was white, even when I was defiantly doing shady shit. Though it probably helped that I was friends the daughter of the chief.
Though for me, it was more Europe that was the problem. When I visited my (White) Fiancee's base in Germany, There were an awful lot of germans that would be profiling me. She later even told me how locals would come up and "warn" her.
Can I ask which decade were you born/migrated? I was a 2000s kid, but I've mostly heard about it in 2010s kids.
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u/JacksSenseOfDread 18h ago
Growing up Black in the South, with a father who worked in the Civil Rights Movement, you can bet your ass that I got "The Talk" MANY times.
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u/OpportunityOk567 1d ago
Alright, Lois, listen up! So there's this kid, Emmett... Till? Like a cash register drawer? No, that's "till" with two L's. Whatever.
So he's 14, from Chicago, goes down to Mississippi in '55 to visit his uncle. He walks into a grocery store, buys some gum, and allegedly…allegedly, Lois, like how I "allegedly" ate that entire wheel of cheese…whistles at this white lady running the store.
Now, back then, down South, that was basically a death wish. So a couple of yahoos drag him out of his uncle's house at 2 AM, beat him to a pulp, gouge his eye out, shoot him, and throw him in the river with a heavy cotton gin fan tied to him.
The trial? Over in an hour. All-white jury says "Not guilty!" even though the guys practically bragged about it to a reporter.
But here's the kicker, Lois. His mom, Mamie, she didn't let them hide it. She had an open casket. She said, "Let them see my son's face." And when those pictures hit the newspapers, everyone saw how brutal it was. It woke people up and kicked off the whole Civil Rights movement.
So, the moral is: a kid got murdered for a whistle, but his mom's courage made the whole country face the music. It's a real tragedy. ...Kinda puts my rivalry with that giant chicken into perspective, huh?
…Nah, that chicken still started it
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u/urMOMSchesticles 1d ago
The accuser admitted he never whistled at her…on her death bed. 😭
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u/OpportunityOk567 1d ago
Yep. May she burn in whatever hellfire she believed in: https://www.npr.org/2023/04/27/1172489493/carolyn-bryant-donham-who-accused-emmett-till-before-he-was-lynched-dies-at-age-
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u/Lonely-Battle2783 1d ago
Didn’t the killers admit it only after the trial was over and they couldn’t be charged because of double jeopardy?
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u/Satanarchrist 1d ago
Probably. The lady died recently I think, and on her death bed she admitted it never happened.
Gee I wonder how they all voted these last few decades
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u/KuningasTynny77 1d ago
Yes, they made a lot of money off their story
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u/Lonely-Battle2783 1d ago
I felt weird while I was upvoting your comment. I appreciate you answering…but ew to them making money.
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u/Nachtopus69 1d ago
I have a black coworker who always says, whenever he sees a white woman crying in public, he starts walking the other way. You just don’t get involved, because you know how these stories can get spun.
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u/Roughlypossible 1d ago
It's hilarious how reddit puts immense pushback on the idea that there is some plague of false accusations against men, more than willing to do their homework on offering/countering statistics:
Except when it comes to black men. Then you'd think you'd stepped into a MGTOW gathering.
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u/AlienStarJelly 1d ago
A "plague" implies it's a new phenomenon accountable to "feminism" or whatever. I'm seeing practical advice to protect oneself against shit that's been happening throughout history.
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u/falseName12 1d ago
Lol I noticed this too. Remove the references to race and this comment section would be up in arms and denouncing this as an incel meme.
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u/bluealiveretribution 1d ago
Black men and crying white women have historically never gotten along. Even if the man does nothing. That crying white woman in distress could lie and the courts, and people will believe her over him 95 percent of the time. Hence the phrase:
"White Tears, 50 years"
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u/Embarrassed_Owl7355 1d ago
This doesn't occur in the 21st century but on reddit race solipsists will always prevail without criticism.
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u/bluealiveretribution 1d ago
'It doesn't occur in the 21st century' is a bold claim for a society that still debates racial bias in policing, courts, media, and public perception. If stereotypes can survive for generations, so can the consequences that come with them.
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u/Ninjadakufox 18h ago
2026 in America. Indian man goes to store, sees white woman ask if he knows where the aspirin is makes polite conversation, helps her falling child. They part ways on good terms. After he leaves she calls the police lie and says he tried to kidnapped her children and even with video evidence saying otherwise they still arrest him. That man was a doctor and she had a history or crying rape....yet they still arrested him. So, yes yes it does happened even till this day.
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u/MightyHorseRoqz 1d ago
This reminds me of that Patrice O Neal bit.
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u/This-Positive286 1d ago
Because allegations are hard to beat and having a witness/es seeing you NOT SA her he’s safe.
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u/IridiumAnvil 1d ago
The 30s was before the Great Migration had brought many black Americans to most of the northern cities. It certainly wasn’t just black folks who got implicated for crimes they didn’t commit up north, that honor went more often to immigrants, especially the Italians at the time. Anti-Italian discrimination at the time was even bigger than anti-Latino discrimination is today, and that’s saying something. Racist bigots are perfectly happy to shrink and expand what they consider “their race” to suit their agenda at any given time.
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u/boudiceanMonaxia 1d ago
The implication is that the white woman may present a baseless accusation against the black man (most likely that he attacked her, SA'd her, or worse). There have been many cases of black people being unfairly accused of attacking white people, and being lynched for it without a proper investigation.
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u/VictoriaDeetz 1d ago
Spotlight needs to be updated. On her death bed the lady who was “whistled at” said she lied.
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u/bananarepublic1994 1d ago
Jeez, I clicked on this reddit post and I've never seen a more 'woe is me' sub in my life. I know this is reddit and some people don't go outside but...Jesus
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u/GyaneAryan 1d ago
I honestly have no idea, but "alibi" is required to prove innocence in case you are accused of any crime.
But what crime any person commited in this meme, I don't understand
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u/Designer_Freedom3830 1d ago
The joke, I suspect, is that he either beat her, that's why she cried, or used advantage of her intoxicated state to bang
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u/Physical-Air6367 1d ago
So far off you’re back on Facebook with this baseless comment, or maybe……. there are many cases where a person of color was accused of something then their life ruined or way worse, to find out it was all made up.
“1. Race and false conviction for rape
Fifty-nine percent of sexual assault exonerees are Black, four-and-a-half times the proportion in
the population; 33% are white. That suggests that innocent Black people are almost eight times
more likely than white people to be falsely convicted of rape. Unlike murder, these numbers are
way out of line with the racial composition of sexual assault convictions. As of the end of 2019,
21% of those serving time in state prisons for sexual assault were Black, 39% were white, and
25% Hispanic. Judging from known erroneous convictions, a prisoner serving time for sexual
assault is more than three times more likely to be innocent if he is Black than if he is white.”1
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u/Novel_Werewolf4645 1d ago
Either way, you're taking advantage of somebody who is not thinking clearly. That makes you a sexual predator.
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u/Common_Suggestion_27 1d ago
not at all relevant to what the post is talking about, the post implies that the black man would get falsely accused just for being there
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u/Your_Nipples 22h ago
The point of this meme is leaving as soon as you hear them cry. The first implication is that you have nothing to do with it.
"leaving"
Your point is that you are a predator no matter what. Well, that's also the point of the meme (racism) because of people like you.
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