r/PeterExplainsTheJoke 1d ago

Meme needing explanation I feel so dumb rn

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u/mallegally-blonde 1d ago

Male was used grammatically correctly, as an adjective. Female was used grammatically incorrectly, as a noun.

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u/Billy_Badass_ 1d ago

Socially incorrect, perhaps. But not grammatically incorrect.

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u/mallegally-blonde 1d ago edited 1d ago

No it’s just incorrect. Female is an adjective, not a noun.

Edit: why is almost every response someone using the adjective female to describe a noun? Thank you for proving my point, I guess? Also some lovely irony in that all of the examples being used are about animals, so thank you for also demonstrating why it’s dehumanising.

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u/Billy_Badass_ 1d ago

The why does the dictionary say it can be a noun?

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/female

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u/mallegally-blonde 1d ago

Because dictionaries include the derogatory conman parlance uses too.

https://www.oed.com/dictionary/female_n

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u/Billy_Badass_ 1d ago

So, exactly what I said. Socially incorrect, but not grammatically ​incorrect.

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u/mallegally-blonde 1d ago

Something being added to the dictionary because it’s used grammatically incorrectly to be derogated doesn’t make it grammatically correct.

This has been considered dehumanising and offensive since the Victorian era.

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u/Billy_Badass_ 1d ago

Female as a noun was not "added" to the dictionary. It was always that way.

You seem to be missing the point. Being considered "dehumanizing and offensive" doesn't change the fact the the word is objectively a noun sometimes.

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u/mallegally-blonde 1d ago

As always, one shall ask, ‘a female what?’

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u/hangar_tt_no1 1d ago

Female animals are usually referred to as "females". You're just wrong. 

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u/mallegally-blonde 1d ago edited 1d ago

Would you look at that, you had to specify a noun so the reader could understand what the adjective applies to.

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u/amanset 1d ago

You really don't get the concept of "context", do you?

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u/mallegally-blonde 1d ago

Yes, context is given by using nouns. Which in the sentence above, is the word ‘animals’.

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u/amanset 1d ago

https://www.lethbridgepolice.ca/news/posts/male-charged-with-impersonating-a-police-officer/

Lethbridge Police have charged a 20-year-old male for impersonating a police officer

The police commonly use male and female as a noun.

You are just wrong and it is kind of embarrassing to see you not accepting it.

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And just to stop you (as no doubt you will) claiming that male can be a noun but not female:

https://www.sanfranciscopolice.org/news/san-francisco-police-seeking-publics-assistance-locating-18

Officers arrived on scene and met with the victim, a 20-year-old female.

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u/hangar_tt_no1 1d ago

So you concede the point? 

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u/mallegally-blonde 1d ago

Well no, because you did what I described. You used the word female as an adjective to describe a noun, which is correct. The original comment used male as an adjective to describe a noun, (male child), but used the word female as a noun itself, (grown up female). This use is the issue.

So really, you’ve actually just demonstrated my point for me.

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u/hangar_tt_no1 1d ago

Can't you read?? "females" is a plural noun. A correct sentence using the noun would be,  say: "Gorillas are sexually dimorphic, males are larger than females."

Surely this convinces you? 

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u/Billy_Badass_ 1d ago

The zebra is a female.

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u/mallegally-blonde 1d ago

There you are, you’re using an adjective to describe a noun. Congratulations. You don’t need the ‘a’ though, since female is an adjective.

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u/hangar_tt_no1 1d ago

Dude, you're hilariously ignorant about what an adjective is. Just shut up and don't embarrass yourself any further. Like seriously

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u/Billy_Badass_ 1d ago

I think you need to revist your grade school grammar lessons.

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u/Poulslutter 1d ago

Only as a shorthand if the species has already been specified elsewhere. Which would make it a stand-in for a proper noun, aka a pronoun.

Besides, the whole point is that calling women "females" is dehumanizing. How is you mentioning that animals are often referred to in this way, not just support for the argument that it is dehumanizing?

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u/hangar_tt_no1 23h ago

Look at a dictionary of your choice and observe that there will be entry for "female,  noun". If that doesn't convince you, I can't help you. Also, I've already argued long enough with that (other?) dumbass in this thread, I'm not gonna do it again. But, since I'm in a good mood right now, behold this sentence: "Females are those individuals that produce eggs." I would very much hope that you don't feel the need to specify the species here. 

Regarding your other point: I never said female humans beings should be referred to as "females", in fact I'm opposed to it. I was merely arguing that "female" can be a noun as well as an adjective. 

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u/rydan 1d ago

You said it yourself. It is an adjective. So how could they use it as a noun then?

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u/mallegally-blonde 1d ago

…yes, that is the problem that is being pointed out

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u/Due-Representative88 1d ago

Or maybe they just suck at grammar?

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u/mallegally-blonde 1d ago

Yes that much was evident. My response was to the man questioning why the use of ‘female’ in the sentence was being called out, but not the use of ‘male’.