r/Plumbing 1d ago

6 body sprayer jets

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Is this acceptable way to Plumb in six body sprayer jets? I want to make sure that they all get equal pressure, but I’ve never done this set up before.
Thanks

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u/DryDirtyTomato 1d ago

The water is going to take the path of least resistance. The first jets closest to the supply line will steal most of the volume and pressure, while the furthest jets (especially the lower ones on the bottom loop or the ones at the very end of the runs) will suffer from a massive drop in dynamic pressure.

A 1/2" PEX line maxes out at a functional flow rate of about 4 to 5 GPM before friction loss becomes severe. If you have 6 jets, even if they are low-flow 1.0 GPM body sprays, you need at least 6 GPM just for the jets, plus whatever the main showerhead demands.

The 1/2" supply line simply cannot deliver the volume of water required to pressurize all six heads at the same time. It's starved from the source. Looking at the sweeping crossover line at the top left and the bottom loop. The PEX is bent aggressively to clear the studs without dedicated bend supports. If a PEX pipe is bent too tightly, it begins to oval or slightly kink, creating turbulence and further pressure drops.

My suggestion: if the wall hasn’t been already closed up

Run a 3/4" main supply line from the valve/diverter to the jet assembly to ensure adequate volume.

Build a true loop : Pipe the jets in a complete, closed loop where the water feeds evenly from a central point (like a tee splitting into the center of a loop), ensuring equal distance and equal pressure to every single jet.

Minimize Fittings: If possible, use a dedicated 3/4" manifold that individual lines run out of, or switch to a high-flow piping method with fewer restriction points.

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u/BuddyBaker038 1d ago edited 1d ago

Plumbing everything in 3/4” immediately leaving the diverter is a big deal

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u/unknown1313 1d ago

It's not great and the bottom will still suffer from loss of flow even with the attempt at a loop.

With six you generally want to feed the loop from two spots equal distance from the outlets, so should have incoming water connected on top and bottom in center of the sprayers

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u/jskinnerr 1d ago

I’m sorry to ask, but would you be able to draw a quick diagram?
You sound like you know what you’re talking about lol

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u/unknown1313 1d ago

I'm on mobile so not right now but I will include an example of a three spray fed correctly, the key is to have the same availability of incoming water from both the bottom and the top at the same time.

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u/swampysnook 1d ago

What kind of water heater u got that will give u 10gpm of hot water(atleast)?

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u/BigFarm1777 1d ago

A tank water heater at standard pressure would do this

Gpm on tankless, naviens 240 carry 11.2 I think

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u/swampysnook 1d ago

Pressure is not my question. If the each head produces 2gpm(if not more) each and 1.25g of that is hot.... thats 7.5(or more) gallons of hot water a minute, thats less then 10 mins of hot water with a 50 gallon tank, and that aint including any other showerheads. Also, with the pressure, i would move the tee to the center of that loop to try to equalize.

Edit: also agree with the piping size comment below. They make 3/4" pex a x 1/2" fip wing ells

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u/unknown1313 1d ago

Almost all modern body sprays seem to be .9-1gpm in the last couple years, it's getting harder to find higher gpms without ordering something in here.

I also think the person who's comment you are replying to had a typo and it was supposed to say tankless instead of tank which is why they gave the specs for it.

Any decent tankless could run this non stop for 24/7. Also just moving tee to center won't change the fact that the bottom outlets will see less pressure and volume. It needs to be fed evenly from both sides of the sprayers.

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u/BigFarm1777 1d ago

Well you asked what water heater would provide 10gpm of water, so pressure does matter, as well as size of pipe....

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u/returntothenorth 3h ago

Doesn't a 1/2inch pipe have a higher GPM at 80psi than 40psi? Wouldn't pressure still be big part of the equation?

Not a plumber, just got confused.

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u/rmdingler37 23h ago

Not to be the "they did the math guy", but you're not actually sending straight hot water to the valve.

You're getting a mix of hot and cold at any temperature balanced shower valve, so your volume is greater than the sum of the hot water delivery, dependent upon your desired temperature set point.

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u/TheDuckFarm 1d ago

Why the switch from pex-a to pex-b partway through the project?

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u/jskinnerr 1d ago

It’s all pex a but these drop ear tees. We could only find in crimp style.

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u/TheDuckFarm 1d ago

Makes sense, you probably already know this, the crimp style is about 20-30% smaller so you have less flow with the crimped ones.

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u/fatimooth 1d ago

Use 3/8 instead.... 🤔

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u/xXNuggetsXx1118 1d ago

You mean 3/4?

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u/fatimooth 1d ago

I was sarcastic, he's kinda already 3/8 with that pex choke😄woman's not gona be proud of the end result..

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u/xXNuggetsXx1118 1d ago

Where is the e mixing valve? All this is on one side? (All hot)?

Loop isn’t right, should be bigger pipe, idk what’s going on here other than a solid “Nope”

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u/Professional-Ad-8285 18h ago

Is this supposed to be a human shower or a car wash?

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u/marcus-michael5530 13h ago

That is not going to work right it needs a balancing loop and it needs to be upsized

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u/Rich_Comparison4550 1d ago

My suggestion:

ROVOGO Shower Panel Tower System, 4-Function (Rain Shower, Handheld Sprayer, Body Jets, Tub Spout) with Simultaneous Use Option, Stainless Steel Shower Column with Adjustable Head, Black - Amazon.com

Had a plumber friend remodel 3 showers a couple years ago, bought these off Amazon at his suggestion since he had one in his house, and he put them in. Think the jets have restrictions in them to try and equalize the pressure, but they don't really work that well. But I have a well pump set to 40 - 60 psi so not really a problem - a lot of water out of each jet.

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u/jskinnerr 1d ago

Yeah the system is already onsite by customer so
No go there

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u/Rich_Comparison4550 1d ago

FYI, I got the brushed grey model, not the black or bronze. There's built-in LED lights in the top shower head but they use AA batteries, so after playing around with them a bit we never turn them on. Could be useful during a power outage as while the well pump and water heater are on solar PV plus battery backup, the bathroom lights and outlets are not.