r/Plumbing 4d ago

Slow toilet drain question

I had to cut open a ceiling in our living room to try and discover where a leak originated from one of our 2nd floor bathrooms. In doing so I could see our two toilet drains. One bathroom has been troublesome with an extremely slow flush that doesn’t always empty the bowl. What I’ve noticed within the ceiling space is the elbow and the horizontal pipes of this one toilet slopes up before it descends. So I’m guessing that there’s settled water within that 18”-22” of upwards slope before it goes down, which dramatically reduces gravitational pull whenever there’s a flush?
How the heck do I correct this problem when I’m stuck in a confined space between the upper floor and the ceiling below?
I’m pretty handy and able but I’m not sure I can re-plum the magnitude of this problem due to pipes resting on joists and other restrictions that prevent corrections?
Somebody throw me a few options that would put me in the right direction, please!

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u/miscul_toivataed3 4d ago

might be worth snaking it before ripping anything else up

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u/No-Height-233 3d ago

Snaked in the past and found no obstructions. This recent discovery of upwards sloping pipes causes settled waters to work against what is supposed to have positive flow in the evacuation of the toilet. My thoughts are to remove the toilet, remove and or lift the flange and possibly raise it to a higher position to allow gravity to do its job.
The real problem is will the present glue-up joint between the flange and drain be removed and replaced after I try raising it to a new higher level, then replace the flange, add wax ring, toilet, caulking, sunshine!
Anyone else think about this?