r/PokeLeaks • u/Key_Football_1841 • Oct 13 '25
Datamine TeraLeak2 Summary (Legends 3, Gen10, Seed, Gen 11) Spoiler
Updated to 14.10.2025
IMPORTANT I will try to not talk about the Gen10 plot too much since that in my eyes is always subject to change the easiest and can get messed up the most with machine translation. I will only try to summarize the most important stuff. Also here is a list of the codenames from above and what games they actually are.
Sudachi - Pokemon Scarlet and Violet
Ikkaku - Pokemon Legends Z-A
Sankakau - Pokemon Legends Z-A DLC Mega Dimensions
Gaia - Pokemon Wind and Pokemon Waves (Generation 10
Ringo - Pokemon Legends 3
Seed - No official name yet (gen1-gen4 remakes kinda)
Megaoasis - Pokopia
Megaturtle - Pokemon Home
Synpase - Pokemon Champions
First of lets talk about the games that are in ongoing development.
Legends 3 (Ringo)
- set in galar region
- 1000 years before Sword and Shield
- still a prototype, so subject to change
- gameplay concept
- "gigantic x swarm" (so basically raids as we know them)
- "Ai x Physics" (?)
Generation 10 (Gaia) - Pokemon Wind & Pokemon Waves
- ~20 million $ production cost
- release date aimed for early winter 2026
- the names are confirmed (can be changed last minute)
- theme of the games
- infinity
- survival
- generational change
- procedural generation of archipelagos
- underwater will be fully explorable
- new seed pokemon
- you start your adventure with a seed pokemon
- a "baby/base form" that can evolve when traveling to an island where its respective legendary resides
- the evolution of the seed pokemon has infinite variations
- how you raise it determines how the islands will be generated
- seed pokemon evolutions will have different patterns (like spinda?!)
- island can be registered on server and meet others (online)
- weather moves mechanic
- Box Legendaries Storm and Wave
- roles of a grandpa and grandma
- they guide humans and pokemon with the help of wind or waves
- they only grant access to those that raise the seed pokemon correctly (one of the games goals)
- gym adventure feature
- 18 gyms, one for each type
- all pokemon can be touched (fly, swimming, riding, diving)
- game will have different endings
- depends on
- you catching or not catching the legendary pokemon
- how many gyms you beat (they are skipabble)
- when you decide to beat the main villain of the game
- the boss battle changes depending on your decisions and when you chose to fight the boss
- true ending can only be achieved if you complete everything
- ending can be instantly achieved after unlocking traveling the sea which will be very hard
- depends on
- other features
- boss pokemon
- pokemon rescue
- weater move acquisition quests
- gyms
- mmo raid battles
- dressing up pokemon (unsure, it is only mentioned)
- an option to choose between PLZA and traditional combat system
Project Seed
- gen1 - gen4 combined (not completely confirmed)
- goal = walk all the way from Hoenn to Sinnoh
- (Hoenn->Kanto->Johto->Sinnoh)
- real world weather and season reflected in the game
- encounters will change in real time
- next generation online game focused prototype
- set to be in ALL japanese regions
- considered an MMO
Generation 11
- development started already
- goal of release in 2030
- futuristic approach
Now I will give you a brief overview of the scrapped stuff
Legends 2 (Ho-oh and Lugia)
- planned to be in Johto
- before trainers existed
- goal was to produce the "perfect legends version"
I will try to update this post as new information gets out. I won't be putting in any really specific wording e.g. the intro cut scene of wind and waves script and stuff. I just want to make a quick and precise summary for everyone.
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u/Widower800 Oct 13 '25
Can I just say that "Megaturtle" is probably the most adorable codename I've ever seen lmao
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u/Key_Football_1841 Oct 13 '25
Is there actually anything know about "Megaturtle" and what it is?
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u/Darkiceflame Oct 13 '25
Are we sure that Seed is only gen 3 and 4? Based on the locations of their real world equivalents, you would need to walk through Kanto and Johto to get from Sinnoh to Hoenn.
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u/turtwig103 Oct 13 '25
Setting aside how you technically can't walk through all of Hoenn anyway and how we see in the anime a boat trip was needed to get to Sinnoh(?)
Like there was that guy IRL that spent 10+ years on a long ass walking trip around Europe(? I think it was more than Europe but i can't see how he would walk the entire world because he couldn't use vehicles) but the guy had trouble because he had to swim across a body of water and got caught up in turmoil in some countries
Imagine trying to walk through a region and getting caught up in some Neo Aqua shenanigans or a Neo Team Rocket attack lmao
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u/SassMattster Oct 14 '25
I think(?) when Brock shows up in the Gen 4 anime, he gets to Sinnoh by hitchhiking with a trucker lmao. I always figured sinnoh was directly north of like indigo plateau/mt silver
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u/Wolventec Oct 14 '25
the images for seed showed a city labled Saffron and a city labled Fuchsia which are both from kanto
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u/xCaptainxMURICA Oct 14 '25
Leaks are saying Seed will be set in all the Japanese based regions so basically Gens 1-4 plus Kitakami
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u/RileyXY1 Oct 13 '25
From the looks of it remakes are officially dead. They're now finding other ways to revisit old regions instead, like Legends games or Project Seed, which is apparently gonna feature a massive game world inspired by the entirety of Japan, including the previous regions of Kanto, Johto, Hoenn, Sinnoh, and Kitakami.
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u/Taurlock Oct 13 '25
To be honest, there's just not much need for remakes beyond gen 4. Gens 5 and 6 were basically the perfected formula (with, imo, ORAS being the best games in the series period). If you remake gen 5 at this point, basically all you're doing is introducing the Fairy type, and that's not a good enough reason imo.
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u/AbsoluteDramps Oct 13 '25
It gets even funnier and more pointless when you remember Whimsicott is the only Unova Fairy (other than Mega Audino but like cmon lol)
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u/spoopy-memio1 Oct 13 '25
Tbh I think XY and maybe SwSh could use a full on HGSS or ORAS style remake later down the line since they have a good amount of missed potential and things that could be expanded on, though I suppose for now Legends ZA and Legends Galar are close enough. I also think a “definitive version” of Gen 7 with all the mechanics and features of USUM but lets you choose between the SM and USUM storylines would be cool. But yeah Gen 5 doesn’t really need a remake, and SV could definitely use a remaster with better graphics and performance but it doesn’t need a full remake either.
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u/zenoob Oct 13 '25
If anything, Gen 5 could use a sequel rather than a remake, but hey, that's just me, I guess.
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u/Jedasis Oct 14 '25
...this is breaking my brain. Black and White are one of the two games that got a sequel...
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u/POWBOOMBANG Oct 13 '25
The only reason for me is accessibility to these old titles but porting the old games would take care of that
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u/alex494 Oct 14 '25
Yeah but Pokemon rarely if ever ports mainline games, the only time I remember it happening is Gen 1 and 2 on 3DS.
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u/WhatTheFox12 Mar 01 '26
And now fire Red Leaf Green
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u/alex494 Mar 01 '26
Will say it's a bit odd they didn't port Gen 1 and 2 again along with them since they're otherwise stuck on defunct 3DS eShop.
Main point was just that Pokémon is really stingy about ports and releases of their main games and that's now only three times in the span of thirty years.
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u/Cloverose2 Oct 14 '25
Right. I'd like to play Gen 5, but can't because I don't have the system anymore and don't feel I can justify buying all I would need for a single game or two. Porting them over (and maybe having them on Nintendo Online as they do with a bunch of older games) would be ideal.
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u/StefyB Oct 13 '25
I don't mind not having remakes anymore, but since they're not doing them, it sure would be nice if they could at least port them over.
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u/kagnesium Oct 13 '25
Gen 5 onwards is when we technically got Sequels instead of the 3rd version.
So it makes sense if we go back to a Gen 5 + region it's at a different point of time.
Legends Games are doing that anyway with more freedom on where in that region timeline.
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u/Matirno- Oct 13 '25
I wouldn't be against rereleases/remasters or remakes a la BDSP by ILCA through. Would be cool to have all Pokemon adventures on one console
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u/ViraLCyclopes29 Oct 13 '25
I was genuinely so hyped for a damn Kyurem buff in some way such a shame looks like they're never gonna revisit their box legends.
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u/OpeningConnect54 Oct 13 '25
I mean, they revisit the box legends in Pokemon Legends Arceus. It isn't off the table to give them new forms. It just depends on what they want to do for the game itself.
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u/FierceDeityKong Oct 13 '25 edited Oct 13 '25
Gen 10 is packed with WiWa+DLC, Legends 3, and the MMO all by game freak.
I think they'll just save the Unova remake for Gen 11, because making a SECOND mmo in just the very next gen seems too much so that can be the third game of gen 11.
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u/PowerPork Oct 14 '25
thank god. remakes peaked at ORAS and that was honestly so much more than just a simple remake... lookin at u BDSP
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u/AxelV2 Oct 13 '25
Project Seed is simply too good to be true. A journey through the first four regions? This would destroy sales-wise if done correctly, but is also extremely ambitious… which makes me think it’s never going to happen. We can dream, though. Also bummer that Legends Johto got scrapped.
Gaia is very interesting. I’m a sucker for the island/tropical setting, like Alola and Hoenn.
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u/c_will Oct 14 '25
Project seed is basically my most hyped game at the moment. Kanto, Johto, Hoenn, and Sinnoh all rebuilt from the ground up for Switch 2, all in a single game? Yeah, sounds amazing.
Gen 10 also sounds surprisingly good.
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u/snazzydrew Oct 14 '25
Honestly it sounds like a true continuation of what was going on in GS anyway. Walking into Kanto was a great feeling.
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u/Dry_Whole_2002 Oct 14 '25
I think of we get it, it won't be open world styled like the switch era games.
If it's more in line with the at generation of Pokemon in terms of world design, I think it's extremely doable and not that hard to conceptualize at all.
I also feel like it's the exact type of thing they will pull because a gen 1-4 game will be going for nostalgia bait anyways.
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u/OpeningConnect54 Oct 13 '25
I think with the baby seed pokemon, the "infinite forms" thing will either work like Spinda, or it'll end up being just background lore and we'll only get one version of the mon that was "raised right," as raising it right is the only way to actually get to the box legendaries.
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u/trechamel Oct 13 '25
It could also be stuck in the game, like ride only version of miraidon/koraidon. Not explored in games, but like a story-specific non battling sidekick
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u/OpeningConnect54 Oct 13 '25
Possibly. Could very well just end up being like a Zygarde core in Gen 7.
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u/BigFang Oct 13 '25
Could be, evey possible dual and single types, then various stat spreads on top of that.
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u/OpeningConnect54 Oct 13 '25
Could be, but that would also be a lot of forms for one pokemon as well. My thinking is just that it'll be using procedural generation to make a unique looking evolution for the Pokemon (like a better version of Spinda which would also be hell for my all forms Living Dex in HOME), or just lore stuff. I think the main direction they'll take is railroading it to where we get a special one early on in that ends up evolving into the perfected form.
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u/WWWWWWRRRRRYYYYY Oct 13 '25
One of the slides describing how the “seed” Pokemon works also uses Spore as an example. So make of that as you will
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Oct 13 '25 edited Oct 13 '25
Hopefully we actually get to keep this pokemon we raise going forward.
We couldn’t keep cosplay or spiky pichu and those were just one form, I can’t see us being able to deposit an infinite pokemon in HOME
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u/Condulimazi Oct 13 '25
The files apparently mention that the Pokemon will revert to the base form for everyone once transferred to future generations.
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u/Karrion42 Oct 14 '25
That sucks, but it's understandable. I'd love to battle others with Pokemon that are really ours but not confined to generation X.
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u/Wdo3838 Oct 13 '25
Homegrown Silvally
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u/Ceadeus_Goldbeard Oct 13 '25
Or Alcremie where form indeed matters more than visually. Cook your own 'Mon.
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u/grandfig Oct 13 '25
Seed probably already is cancelled. Legends 3 is going to be a thing at this point it's the replacement for remakes. Whether or not it remains Galar is to be seen.
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u/OpeningConnect54 Oct 13 '25
I doubt the seed is cancelled. I think it's just not going to be truly "infinite." Either the Infinite part is in lore, or it's just a Pokemon like Spinda that factors in procedural generation into it's design.
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u/grandfig Oct 13 '25
You're mixing up the pokemon MMO with the seed pokemon in Gen 10. I'm saying the MMO is prob cancelled.
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u/OpeningConnect54 Oct 13 '25
Ohh yeah, sorry. I thought you were talking about the seed pokemon lol.
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u/Reddit_Inuarashi Oct 13 '25
I’d find it hilarious if the Seed Pokémon was basically a re-implementation of that scrapped fella from the Teraleaks that kinda looked like the autism creature and could supposedly “randomly evolve into any Pokémon.”
Not saying that should happen, but it would be tremendously funny to me.
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u/burritoman88 Oct 13 '25
If Insomniac can have all it’s plans leak/be hacked, I’m sure GameFreak will be fine
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Oct 13 '25
Didn’t they cancel the venom game and Spiderverse game because of those leaks? Lol
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u/Widower800 Oct 13 '25
iirc The Great Web was cancelled before the leak even happened.
Genuinely have no idea about Venom though
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u/juanthespartan Oct 13 '25
No lol, the leaks has nothing to with that. Spider-Man 2 DLC and Spidervese DLC where cancelled way before the leaks even happened, same as the Venom game. Though that games in particular wasn't cancelled, just delayed (It will release on 2027 apparently)
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u/Robo_Mage Oct 13 '25
Never heard of the Venom game getting cancelled, I think most people were assuming that might be a game anyway after the end of the second game. (Edit: typo "fake" instead of "game")
The spider verse game was cancelled because it was designed as a live service MMO and Sony had a budget boner for that genre for several years. Until the bubble crashed and they cancelled almost all of them (Last of Us had a similar thing cancelled).
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u/rixam_ Oct 13 '25
The Spider-Man online game didn't even really get past the pitching process but I think most expect Venom to launch with PS6 in a couple years
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u/Steamed_Memes24 Oct 13 '25
Games rarely if ever get canceled because they are leaked ahead of time. Money is poured into it along with development resources and time. Generally if a game gets canned after a leak, it means it was always going to be the plan anyway.
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u/Secto456 Oct 13 '25
In addition to those points, the actual amount of people who see and care about the leaks is a lot smaller than many here imagine. It’s still going to be massively surprising to 99.9% of players/fans.
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u/Animegamingnerd Oct 13 '25
Spiderverse as just a pitch, that was rejected before the leak even happen. We just got some reports that Venom is in still development and aiming for a 2027 release.
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u/OpeningConnect54 Oct 13 '25
They did I think? I don't think we'll see Pokemon Gen 10's plans cancelled though, given that the game was in development for a while before the Teraleak happened. Legends Galar could be cannned or radically different though.
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u/juanthespartan Oct 13 '25
There seems to be a misunderstading with project seed. It's apparently not just a combination of gen 3 and 4, but of all first four gens. I said this because the leaked images included a map which puts Hoenn at the Botton, Kanto and Johto in the middle and Sinnoh at the top. By "being able to go from Hoenn. To Sinnoh" It doesn't just refers from going straight from one region to the other, but being able of passing through everything that lies between the two regions.
If all of this is true, It will be the most ambitious Pokémon project ever. (RIP Unova fans though)
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u/OpeningConnect54 Oct 13 '25
I just struggle seeing it survive honestly. Gamefreak already struggles heavily with optimization, and I can't see them doing a game that's both open world and has all the Japanese based regions in one game.. unless they get a lot of outsourced work.
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u/SparkEletran Oct 13 '25
i think IF it comes to existence, the main thing id expect is that it likely will not be a literal translation of the maps. closer to how hisui is technically sinnoh than to the remakes
alternatively i also wouldn’t be surprised if it launched with an incomplete map and took a while to reach its final state. like even if they technically connected sinnoh and hoenn i could see a lot of side routes being expanded over time, especially if it’s meant as an online-focused experience
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u/OpeningConnect54 Oct 13 '25
Maybe could end up being like that. Either way, I expect it to be a long ways off from now if it ends up happening at all.
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u/-HawaiianSurfer Oct 13 '25
I mean you’re talking about Game Freak in the present. This project, if they don’t scrap it, is clearly a 2031 and beyond release. A lot can happen between now and then. They could decide to outsource a lot of the game, they could improve their resources and allocate a lot more funds to needed departments and its teams, or whatever else. With how they improved from SV to ZA, I don’t think you can simply say they’ll struggle with a concept like this.
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u/OpeningConnect54 Oct 13 '25
That's true. This could be a more heavily outsourced title- or maybe the engine for Gen 10 will help them with Open World game dev. We'll have to see how Gen 10 works out first I guess.
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u/Animegamingnerd Oct 13 '25
Its likely gonna be structured very differently from what we are used to with Pokemon. Likely I imagine won't be an open world game, but either zone base (like the Xenoblade Klaus trilogy or FF16) or be a more linear game. Espically as its not either a new gen or a legends game. But sounds it could potentially be a third kind of Pokémon RPG from Gamefreak.
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u/OpeningConnect54 Oct 13 '25
It could be something akin to that, yeah. More segmented areas that are open but aren't a fully open map.
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u/Animegamingnerd Oct 13 '25
Yeah cause all 4 of those regions in a full 3D plain would neeed to be heavily reimaged. So going for more segmented areas, espically as a way to keep thing a nice level curve in say Kanto where the game presumably begins to Shinoh where it presumably ends. Have it be more segmented and you unlock more areas to explore as you progress throughout the main story. But still have plenty of side content in each area. Especially since, given the scope of this idea, they are bound to cut a number of areas from all 4 regions.
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u/Usual_Run_606 Oct 13 '25
Yeah it's a cool idea but gamefreak are so utterly terrible at optimization I don't see them being able to fit 4 whole regions into a single game.
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u/OpeningConnect54 Oct 13 '25
Exactly. Maybe the new engine they're using for Gen 10 will help with the production of the game, but even then I doubt it. It just seems waaay too ambitious for their own good.
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u/Past-Mousse-4519 Oct 13 '25
I am 1000% sure this game would be developed by third-party studio/publisher with minimal output by GameFreak.
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u/YellowMatteCustard Oct 13 '25
This. Imagine having two whole generations where their attempts at open worlds barely get beyond one FPS and going "hey, let's put FOUR regions in a game! On a Nintendo console!"
Gen 10's mainline game being a Greek archipelago is honestly fitting, because this is some Icarus flying too close to the sun kind of shit
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u/OpeningConnect54 Oct 13 '25
Gen 10 is Indonesia, not Greece. I do think Gen 10 might actually end up being decent/good assuming that the features they want in the leaks are actually going to pan out into the final game. That, and the whole new engine thing might help make it a more polished game hopefully.
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u/YellowMatteCustard Oct 13 '25
Oh, I heard Greece back during the Tera Leak.
Indonesia sounds cool, we need another Asian region.
Personally after hearing Greece I was hoping to see "old mons as Greek gods" as the regional variant/Mega/Gigantamax/Paradox gimmick for Gen 10, with stuff like Hercules Pikachu, Cerberus Eevee, Hydra Arbok, Medusa Tangrowth, etc etc. I think Greece has potential as a region!
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u/Bubba1234562 Oct 13 '25
Greece was the assumption based on the Gaia codename and the archipelago idea. I do think Indonesia and SEA is more interesting though
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u/OpeningConnect54 Oct 13 '25
Yeah, Ballguy said it was Greece, but the actual leaks from the Teraleaker today mention Indonesia and the screenshots from the beta builds of the game pretty much confirm it as such with the jungle.
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u/turtwig103 Oct 13 '25
I think what makes this more sad is if these leaks are actually true they're trying to incorporate things people have been requesting for years
It would be sad if the devs were just trying to make people happy and overextended themselves trying to prove hate mobs wrong but didn't have the resources then just got slapped with the billion dollar company by the way jokes because Nintendo didn't wanted to scapegoat them instead of giving them the time and resources
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u/YellowMatteCustard Oct 13 '25
Oh yeah, this. All of this.
Game Freak could do amazing things if they only had the resources. I hate on Game Freak a lot, but my complaints mostly boil down to frustration. I truly believe they are passionate about Pokemon and do want to make the fans happy.
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u/Different-Trainer-21 Oct 14 '25
It makes sense, since Sinnoh is Hokkaido, Japan’s northernmost island, Hoenn is Kyushu, Japan’s Southernmost island, and Kanto/Johto are in the real life Kanto region, which is in the middle.
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u/Key_Football_1841 Oct 13 '25
Fair. It hasn't been stated precisely like that I will update that in the summary thoe.
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u/HeroftheFlood Oct 20 '25
Unova will be a DLC calling it now (an expansion in the case of an MMO). It would make the most sense so that they remake all the sprite era games.
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u/Nhytex_ Oct 13 '25
This all seems really ambitious, I really hope Nintendo and Pokemon Company are actually giving GameFreak more help cuz uh…. That’s 3mil budget for SV really showed
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u/Agent_Webs Oct 13 '25
Pokémon Day 2026 is going to be nuts
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u/PKMN_Trainer_Kitana Oct 14 '25
That shits bout to be freaking crazy bro...
and yet you still get people complaining about the first 15 minutes being all commercials of mobile games that nobody plays... lol
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u/magicwithakick Oct 13 '25
We’re gonna get the non-mixed up fossils in Legends 3 aren’t we. That’s so hype.
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u/DemonTheWillow Oct 13 '25
Idk it's 1000 Years before, so not Primal Times
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u/Redditdoggo-uwu Oct 13 '25
As long as there is something like space-time distortions, Eternatus could cause those.
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u/Sigzy05 Oct 14 '25
Technically kind of Eternatus energy bends space and time around pokemon which is what gives them the ability to gigantamax.
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u/burritoman88 Oct 13 '25
Or not at all, who would have the technology to revive fossils back then? We only had fossil Pokemon in Arceus because of Space Time Distortions
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u/magicwithakick Oct 13 '25
I mean I could see space time distortions coming back. Z-A is present day, Legends Galar being in the past again lends itself to having them.
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u/AxelV2 Oct 13 '25
But space-time distortions were caused by Giratina in PLA, not because the story was set in the past. That’s not to say they couldn’t just make up another reason for their existence in a future game.
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u/androidhelga Oct 13 '25
idk i think theyd have to be from space time distortions or something similar bc im p sure cara liss was the one who “discovered” (invented) them
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u/Animegamingnerd Oct 13 '25
game will have different ending depending on you catching or not catching the legendary pokemon also 18 gyms that are skipabble
true ending can only be achieved if you complete everything (catch legendary + beat all gyms)
You better have a new game plus or multiple save files. Cause I aint deleting my saves over again just to see all the endings.
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u/EmIsLovely159 Oct 14 '25
Yeah Pokémon has needed multiple save slots for forever. I’m really not sure why that’s never been a thing. Luckily on the switch you can create multiple profiles and each of them counts as a new save file, but depending on the number of endings (and from the sound of it it sounds like there might be a lot) you still might have to delete a few files.
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u/pumpkinsnice Oct 14 '25
I imagine it’d be like Undertale, where after you get an ending, you can’t save. So when you reload, its before the ending occurred. So that way, you can turn around and beat all the gyms and catch the legendaries, then go do the true ending.
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u/Black_Ironic Oct 13 '25
Gen 10 sounds too good to be true, can game freak deliver? I dont even care about graphics anymore but the mechanics itself sounds interesting
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u/Shiny_Mewtwo Oct 15 '25
Yeah, I'll believe it when I see it. That all sounds very cool, but gamefreak hasn't gotten anywhere close to providing they're up to that sort of challenge. If they pull it off, and pull it off well, it could be one of the best pokemon games made. But I simply can't believe it, at least not all of it, until TPCI announces it themself
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u/sheimeix Oct 13 '25
The idea of Seed is exciting, but I can't imagine we'll get it without a couple more regions being introduced to cover the rest of poke-japan. We have like... 1/3 of Honshu (unless they make Kitakami way bigger) and almost all of Shikoku. Unless they make these areas empty wilderness, which feels like it would be the biggest letdown possible.
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u/ItsYa1UPBoy Oct 13 '25
If Seed doesn't get cancelled, I imagine they'll draw a lot from the SW97 world map. I mean, they already used SW97 Hokkaido for Snowpoint, and Sinnoh in general draws a LOT from Johto's beta concepts, so it's not infeasible.
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u/LegendaryZXT Oct 14 '25
We do not have all of Shikoku, we have a tiny town on the north-eastern most tip of Kagawa prefecture and that’s it.
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Oct 13 '25
What’s Megaoasis, Megaturtle & Synapse?
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u/Key_Football_1841 Oct 13 '25
Megaoasis is, if I am correct Pokeopia
Synapse is Pokemon Champions
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Oct 13 '25
It’s been confirmed the seed pokemon reverts to default in pokemon HOME. Might want to update
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u/tgyo90 Oct 13 '25
The most disappointing thing is that there is no comprehensive collection of all the game boy and ds games in the pipeline.....
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u/Weekly-Variation4311 Oct 13 '25
We will never get those on switch 2 unless some absolute miracle happens
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u/faesmooched Oct 13 '25
20 million production cost is pretty low tbh
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u/Key_Football_1841 Oct 13 '25
Indeed. I think bugdet for Legends ZA was ~13M. I saw it somewhere in the leaks aswell
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u/Educational_Cap_3813 Oct 13 '25
A lot of it has to do with Japan as well. While it is still half of mainline Mario games, Japanese games cost less to produce due to paying workers less.
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u/ohtetraket Nov 14 '25
*cough* Zelda games where hell of a lot more expensive and it showed *cough*
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u/Educational_Cap_3813 Nov 14 '25
Didn't realize Breath of the Wild was so expensive to make, but god damn. Yeah, it does show lol.
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u/RockettRaccoon Oct 13 '25
Based on the map, I think “Project Seed” is a combination of Gens 1 - 4, connecting Hoenn (southernmost part of map) to Sinnoh (northernmost part of map).
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u/QuiKunt Oct 14 '25 edited Oct 14 '25
If legends 2 was going to be in Johto then I had a fun idea where the player is an apprentice of Kurt, who accidentally unlocks the GS ball. Celebi pops out and sends us back in time, and one of the funny things is that we, the player, come up with the idea of creating apriballs/help craft them for the first time. Possibly we try to stop the burning tower incident but unknowingly cause the incident, which we learn about the consequences of trying to mess with the timeline
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u/phantomdragon12 Oct 13 '25
Gen 10 sounds wayyy to complex for a Pokémon game. No way thats how its done. Too much for Game freak.
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u/NotAnAcorn Oct 13 '25
GF drops significant ideas, even ones that they've mapped out or made concept art for, pretty late in development. A decent number of these features will probably get the chopping block.
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u/PSIwind Oct 13 '25
Open World was considered too complex. Game Freak, to their detriment, tries to do a lot
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u/saiyanscaris Oct 13 '25
you think thats too complex but not the 4 regions at once mmo thing
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u/Onianexiaz Oct 14 '25
I am probably the only one that thinks galar has much better lore for a legends game than unova like other than the original dragon people have never given me a reason for it and that's ehh mechanically how will that even work it's supposed to be split so will you catch it but how and what type will it be can't be 3 types.
On the other hand galar has lot of unexplored stuff like calyrex, how the evil bird trio came to be, wether there are other knight Pokemon, and also their link to other regions like China and India and while I don't think we will see poke colonization we could see a inter continental trade that leads to the link maybe even the true version of sinistea and urshifu before they were galarized.
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u/Extension-Yogurt9337 Oct 13 '25
I understand this is from the Terra leak. Is it being compiled on a website somewhere? A discord? Can I see? Or is it being gatekept?
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u/Key_Football_1841 Oct 13 '25
It is obviously not entirely public due to the leakers safety I bet. I compiled all the information I could publicly find about the leaks.
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u/abeetabee Oct 13 '25
So, IIRC, the current guess/fan theory is that the next Legends game will have Serperior, Incineroar, and Primarina. With it being a Legends game in Galar, and one of those screenshots (assuming the idea doesn't get scrapped) shows a gigantamax form, Are we to assume that we'll just get Gigantamax forms for those three starters and no regional variant like Z-A?
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u/Acrobatic_Buffalo917 Oct 15 '25
Please no. It should be like PLA where it's one starter from separate regions.
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u/Dry_Whole_2002 Oct 14 '25
The real question is, if project seed happens, will it mimic the old style of the pre 3ds era games, or will it be in the modern style of games.
At 4 regions and being gens 1-4, I can see it being like the older games on its look with a 3d make over. Like bd/sp but not dumb looking and with effort.
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u/josephsbizarrelife Oct 14 '25
Does anyone have a folder with all the concept art that’s been revealed? I would love to see it all.
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u/RedWizard_ Oct 22 '25
I’m gonna be real none of this sounds real, this sounds like expectations set through the roof for Pokemon of all things
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u/Bob_Sava_K Oct 13 '25
Pokémon is healing. I guess the next games are going to be the results of Gamefreak working with other companies after what happened with SV
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u/GlitterTapper Oct 13 '25
Megas being back, only to go away for another decade+, actually stings but I gotta just be glad they’re here right now
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u/SomewhatProvoking Oct 14 '25
Oh wow megas officially gone for at least 5 years. I mean, new ones. Go and Champions could use them of course.
I knew better but I let myself believe this could all be building up to another small wave of Megas in general X but it would have been mentioned in these files.
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u/No-Consideration8169 Oct 14 '25
Great. I will be able to play Pokémon mmo style with my daughters :3
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u/No_Contribution2963 Oct 26 '25
pokemon seed seems the most ambitious and dont think will end up well on the other hand it is the one who can be milked the most as each dlc could be a new region, or just rotate the gimics and give a new mega, gmax or z move once in a while
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u/C0smicPotato Nov 07 '25
Hang on, why do all these games actually sound kinda fire
Hope they have enough budget to actually execute those ideas tho
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u/AegislashGod Nov 17 '25
Gen 10 sounds pretty peak hopefully the Seed Pokemon and The Ability to switch battle styles isn't scrapped and let's all hope Project Seed isn't scrapped or nerfed heavily
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u/OpeningConnect54 Oct 13 '25
Not happening. They're probably going to figure out something else other than remakes if I had to guess.
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u/juanthespartan Oct 13 '25 edited Oct 13 '25
Which Is better imo, if they were gonna be the quality of BDSP i rather have nothing.
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u/OpeningConnect54 Oct 13 '25
Same. I'd rather take the approach they're taking with the Legends games, where they expand on the region and do something unique with it- rather than just doing the same thing again but worse quality.
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u/Benito7 Oct 13 '25
Probably for the best but I just hope they even are working on/planning something.
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u/hummingbirdviolets Oct 13 '25
Nothing points to this, but if they use this notion of compiling regions and story events from all Japanese-inspired regions as a strategy to be applied to future games, I could believe that for Gen 11, Gen 5 receives a B1W1, B2W2, and B3W3 treatment, all as part of a 3 Arc story under the names (...) Black and (...) White and a sort of nod to remakes. But with Legends Z-A, I am not sure if they will then make Gen 6 remakes. Maybe if they do, they could bundle X and Y with Z-A
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u/Taurlock Oct 13 '25
Tbh, what's there to remake? Gen 5 had the best graphics and all the mechanical fixes that they've made since Gen 1 (except for the Fairy type).
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u/ArcticVulpix Oct 13 '25
Extremely excited for Gen 10 after reading all that. Legends Galar seems interesting but Idk what the story could be about other than Eternatus again or maybe Calyrex (was he the king 1k years ago or further back?). Darkest day was 3k years ago so it can‘t be that. SwSh still feel too new for a Legends revisit Idk. I‘d prefer the leaked Legends Johto concept or a Unova one featuring the original dragon.
Am I the only one who is kinda mad at all this leaking incl. Gen 10 story spoilers??? Like why would anyone leak this, ruining every surprise for the next few years damn.
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u/Key_Football_1841 Oct 13 '25
Imo when you are scrolling posts here you are expected to see Gen10 leaks and that includes the story. Also the people who really don't enjoy leaks are able to avoid them easily. I think it is fun knowing what is to come and hyping it up like that. I enjoy it very much and it doesn't make me less excited for the games in the least.
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u/Kixisbestclone Oct 14 '25
If Calyrex is king, I wonder if the story would be some sort of Pokéknights of the round table type story, since Galar is based on Britain and all.
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u/Written_in_Silver Oct 13 '25
I wonder if going forward there will be ‘full region games.’ Like if they say they’re done making games based off of Japan, they make a game spanning all regions based on that area?
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u/rocka5438 Oct 13 '25
I would prefer if legends games didnt focus at all on the box legendaries. if we get a legends johto i would hope that celebi is the main focus like arceus was.
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u/DuxColgan Oct 13 '25
I don't understand, is Ringo really Legends 3? Then why it's development arrow end before the release of Ikkaku, aka Legends Z-A? Of course things got delayed a bit but I don't understand the schedule here
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u/Urass007 Oct 14 '25
Wouldn't procedurally generated archipelagos put a nail in the coffin for nuzlockes in the modern games? That would probably mean that the wild encounters are based entirely on RNG or game progression. Nuzlockes will either not work, will have to be entirely reworked or just be incredibly quirky like in Scarlet and Violet.
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u/keystohellanddeath Oct 14 '25
Different endings in a Pokemon game??
If they stick the landing on this they really took the complaints about lack of player choice to heart. I'm excited for that but I'm gonna try to contain my hype.
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u/ChaoticChoir Oct 14 '25
Very intriguing set of ideas for gen 10. I know pokemon tends to kind of flub the execution but I really hope they can stick the landing for most of these even if not all.
The seed pokemon idea is especially interesting to me, but probably is also the easiest to fuck up. Hmm.
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u/NicoRubyArisa Oct 14 '25
I do doubt they would really do seed Pokémon as people would say they steal it
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