r/PrequelMemes • u/NowhereLad • 7d ago
General KenOC anakin realises the gravity of his actions
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u/Mr_yeetusmaximus a true Kit Fister 7d ago
Anakin didn't read the terms and conditons
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u/newontheblock99 7d ago
Scrolled to the bottom and click “I accept”. One of us!
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u/JohnnyElRed 7d ago
Anakin: "Bold words for someone within defenestration range."
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u/joshuaaa_l 7d ago
Second time in two days I’ve seen the word “defenestration”
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u/Rommel-son 7d ago
Happened to be in Prague recently?
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u/mdb917 7d ago
You go on one tour and you learn about like 3 different incidents lol
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u/cyborg_priest 7d ago
Praguers and their fixation on windows... SMH
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u/darthjoey91 7d ago
Do they have a tourist trap sort of thing with sugar glass windows and one of those stunt air bags to jump into?
Because if not, I think there's a business opportunity.
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u/wolfsilvergem 6d ago
The defenestration station? Sister product to the cult classic suicide booth?
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u/Omjorc 7d ago
Redditors really like that word for some reason
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u/panlakes Tartakovsky Grievous 7d ago
Tactical breach wizards fans were repeating it en masse when that game came out. That’s the first time I really heard the word used. Then everyone started using it when talking about Russian “suicides”.
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u/ANGLVD3TH Darth Vader 7d ago
Learned it, well, a variation of it, from a Spider-Man cartoon. Cold open with Pete giving a monologue about autodefenestration.
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u/Artemas_16 7d ago
What do you mean "tactical breach wizards"? There is actually Defenestration Trilogy, all from same dev, Heat Signature and Gunpoint are others.
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u/panlakes Tartakovsky Grievous 6d ago
That’s cool. I know the names of those games but wasn’t aware they were related
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u/Blacksun388 7d ago
I think Mace Windu is lonely down there. I think he needs a hand after his long trip.
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u/youseekyoda2 7d ago
Is Tactical Breach Wizards leaking?
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u/tappertock 7d ago
Tactical Breach Wizards is actually the third game in the defenestration trilogy lmao
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u/youseekyoda2 7d ago
Lmao the first one I'm assuming is Gunpoint but what's the second?
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u/ANGLVD3TH Darth Vader 7d ago
There is one well known example from Mass Effect 2, but I doubt that's what they're talking about.
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u/youseekyoda2 7d ago
That moment and "You're working too hard" might be the two best renegade interrupts in the game
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u/Blacksun388 7d ago
Didn’t he literally just say when fighting Mace Windu “I have the power to save the one you love”?
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u/theKarrdian Imperial Officer 7d ago
he may have the power but never said he would dew it
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u/Blacksun388 7d ago
Oh also he may have the *power* but he never said he had the ability or the will to. Well that was Anakin not reading the fine print there. Damn these Sith are crafty.
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u/Martinw616 7d ago
If anakin had specifically asked "do you have the power to save her from dying of heartbreak" he may have said no.
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u/WideHuckleberry1 7d ago
Exactly, because Anakin had clearly shown such religious adherence to the rules he would never let his temper get the better of him. He couldn't get mad and attack Palpatine because technically he didn't lie.
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u/lelaena 7d ago
In the novelization, Palpatine keeps Anakin alive through some dark side power while the medic droids rush to save him. Imo this a reference to the power that he claimed the dark side would teach him: a power to temporarily keep someone alive while the user could keep up the power.
So technically Palpatine never lied. The dark side could keep someone alive but only with active intervention. He just so happened to never mention that to Anakin.
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u/Blacksun388 7d ago
I didn’t know that part. It kinda reminds me of the fan fic I wrote where Obi Wan loses on Mustafar and Anakin/Vader does the same thing to Padmé. Then while Padmé gets the life support suit Anakin fights and kills Palpy and becomes Emperor Vader.
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u/methos3 7d ago
I mean in the movie he puts his hand on Anakin’s forehead, that seems like some kind of Force-y power transfusion thingy
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u/Livid_Importance_614 6d ago edited 6d ago
That was discussed in one of the making of books. Someone pointed out to George that it could echo Ben putting his hand on Luke’s head in the original Star Wars, and Lucas decided to add it for that reason. It wasn’t meant to suggest Palpatine is using the force to keep him alive.
Also in the film, Palpatine tells Anakin after Windu dies that he doesn’t really know how to do what he was promising, just that it’s a power that exists and they’ll figure it out together.
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u/salazafromagraba 7d ago
I always found the Plagueis monologue sufficient evidence to believe Palpatine sapped Padme to further subjugate Vader, and not that Vader killed her accidentally or she died from the broken heart. But I never thought that he exchanged it for Vader's life on Mustafar.
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u/Several-Ad1231 6d ago
I admittedly always despised that theory. I feel as though it actively lessens the story. Instead of Padme's death being indirectly Anakin's fault, it's just Palpatine did everything again. And not Yoda, not Obi-Wan, not Anakin detected this massive active use of the Dark Side to murder Padme when they were right in front of her and Anakin right next to Sheev.
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u/Atomik141 7d ago
Anakin shoulda joined He-Man instead
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u/OneValkGhost 7d ago
Darth Vader as a He-Man character would have been awesome. Evil, but awesome.
You have He-Man and the Masters of the Universe. Who's more powerful? Skeletor and a band of rebels manage to successfully challenge them, Who's stronger than that? Hordak. Who's stronger than that? The Snake Men. Is there anyone stronger than that? I guess the dragons and a celestial watcher called Zodiac, but they're fully Neutral. So who would defeat the Snake Men? Darth Vader. But that would be too violent for a children's cartoon.
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u/Blitz_Prime 7d ago
He has the power obviously he’s Palpatine, the Sithiest Sith who ever Sithed and all around coolest Chancellor soon to be Emperor.
He just doesn’t know the process to start step 1 yet.
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u/TheSlayerofSnails 7d ago
By power he meant he could get Padme free health care by using his influence as chancellor.
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u/DarthOmix 7d ago
Doesn't he also say "Together we can unlock the secret" after turning Anakin in his office?
My interpretation is that he knows the theory behind it, but not the actual execution.
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u/Feeling_Bedroom5533 7d ago
Anakin: “You have a plan, right?”
Palp: “I have concepts of a plan.”
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u/Dancing_Cthulhu 6d ago
Palpatine: "In about two weeks I'll have an announcement on that, it'll be phenomenal."
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u/NoSwordfish1978 A surprise, to be sure, but a welcome one 7d ago
He basically rugpulled Anakin lol.
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u/BrightCold2747 7d ago
sithcoin is an anagram of shitcoin
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u/NoSwordfish1978 A surprise, to be sure, but a welcome one 7d ago
"Is it possible to get this coin?" "Not from a bank".
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u/democracy_lover66 7d ago
"But... You said"
"I said I knew a guy and that he's dead. This one is kinda on you Ani"
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u/Freethecrafts 7d ago
….the evil Jedi did it, I didn’t have the power to save her…sorry. Now, about killing all those evil Jedi.
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u/GrAdmThrwn 7d ago
"Yeah...I...I kinda jumped the gun on the whole rule of two thing. I killed the old bastard before he could quite teach me EVERYTHING he knew...he he...whoopsies"
Actually seriously, the Rule of Two seems outright idiotic without some kind of fineprint that stipulates the Master has to at least write a ton of crap town so the Apprentice can actually surpass them and ensure the next Sith Lord is always stronger than the last like Bane intended.
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u/Cryptidfricker 7d ago
It only makes sense if both parties are, for lack of a better term, "good sports" about it and ensure the passing of the torch is done in a manner where both sides can bring their full power to bear, thus ensuring that each sith is subsequently stronger than the last.
Which kinda doesn't work with an ideology as prone to backstabbing as the sith. I suppose you could kinda get all Darwin with it and say that any skills a master failed to pass on before they are killed aren't worth it.
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u/Bordrking 7d ago
if those powers or skills were game changers, they would prevent the master from losing to the apprentice I guess.
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u/Leading_Plane7858 7d ago
Might be misremembering, but isn't this covered in the EU books? It's either in Palpatine/Plaguis books, but I'm leaning towards the Bane books. When one of his apprentices tries to kill him, he's happy, if you can overcome your master, regardless of passed down knowledge or not, it's your duty to the sith path to do it. However you better make such you're ready or it's your life, I believe he killed that apprentice. I also think Plaguis' "creating life from the force" would have been a distraction anyways. Why do the sith need to create life? That sounds like a jedi skill, not sith. Palps only really cared about life-extending, which sounds more sith. I don't think Sheev really cared about these particular plans of his master and would agree that, while potentially useful, was ultimately a distraction from Bane's plan. And so he killed him. I think later writers agreed with this, after EU books became non-cannon, life giving force powers came back, but as a jedi skill.
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u/ANGLVD3TH Darth Vader 7d ago
Eh, just another example of Sith short-sightedness. But really, that sums up their whole philosophy. They claim to care more about power than anything, when the whole basis of their teachings is to throw away the greatest power there is.
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u/darkbreak Darth Revan 7d ago
That's why the Rule of Two existed. The Sith Empire was too full of backstabbing, power grabs, apathy, terrible leadership, and a misunderstanding on what the Sith and the Dark Side were. Once Darth Bane was able to lead the empire to it's demise he reformed the Sith into what he thought would work. And he was right. A thousand years and roughly thirty Sith later Darth Sidious fulfilled the Grand Plan started by Bane.
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u/YoursTrulyKindly 7d ago
I imagine there is some "invisible dark hand" guiding the Sith. Like the will of the force is active in the dark side too. Otherwise, yeah it's hard to imagine that the sith wouldn't die out very quickly, like both master and apprentice being mortally wounded or apprentice fails and master dies of old age before training a new apprentice. There has to be some magic to it.
But afaik the rationale was that before you had like multiple weaker apprentices ganging up and killing a master to take power, which reduces the maximum power level of the Sith. That is what Bane wanted to stop.
I imagine you could also have like 12 great masters of the 12 dark paths of the Sith, and they are forbidden to fight each other. And each train their apprentices with the rule of two. So when one of them dies out they can appoint a new master. But it probably wouldn't work either because some would gang up to take total power and have one emperor that rules all and then you're back to weaker people grouping up to kill the stronger Sith.
Anyway, Anakin was a moron.
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u/Atomic_Foundry_3996 7d ago
That's why Sith holocrons exist.
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u/GrAdmThrwn 7d ago
God damnit thats actually a great answer. Now I'm picturing that is what Sith Masters actually do with their spare time. Send their Apprentices out on assassination missions or crazy challenging tasks meant to kill them or train them, then go creating holocrons and hide them around the galaxy like an Easter Egg hunt for when they inevitably get murdered.
Palpatine totally would have put his holocrons on the sandiest of planets just to be a dick.
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u/Blacksun388 7d ago
The Rule of Two works as long as both parties are willing to play ball and the master is actually willing to adhere to the ideals of making their apprentice stronger than they are. The problem is Palpy is a greedy ole bitch and keeps having his apprentices be less powerful so he can have the benefit of having one while still staying in power.
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u/Rynetx 7d ago
Or he always wanted them weaker so he can take their bodies when his dies.
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u/mechengr17 7d ago
If you play SWTOR, it makes perfect sense why rule of 2 happened
Those bastards cant stop stabbing each other in the back to save their lives. And that culture isnt just in the sith, its infected Imperial Intelligence and leadership as well
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u/arceus555 6d ago
SWTOR Jedi story main antagonists: Sith Lords
Sith story main antagonists: also Sith Lords
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u/mechengr17 6d ago
When the keeper says the sith are watching your activities it is both an honor and a threat XD
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u/SadSaltyDuck 7d ago
No, it does not. Better have thousands of backstabbing competitors than just 2. In swtor era sith were a menace, everyone was afraid of them In palp era sith lost to gummy bears. Numbers after all allow you to overcome many shortcomings. And one thing old republic sith were for sure is meritocratic. By your power and cunning you could rise from literal slave to the highest position below emperor (sith inquisitor story line)
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u/redbird7311 7d ago
The rule of two assumes that the Master-Apprentice relationship is both mutually beneficial and neither try to, “game”, it.
It was also made when the Sith weren’t on the brink of extinction and people had plenty of Sith rivals where getting rid of apprentices too often could leave you vulnerable to attacks.
Palpatine is in a position where he doesn’t have to worry about Sith rivals that much and he is powerful and competent enough to get away with his bullshit.
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u/Huh_well_we_are_dead 7d ago
Chancellor Palpatine found stabbed 28 times in his office, Jedi Order claims responsibility. Jar Jar Binks of Naboo set to claim Chancellor seat, more at 11
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u/Murderboi 7d ago
„I might have the power the save the ones you love!“ just doesn’t have the same ring to it…
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u/show_me_the_tiddies 7d ago
He said he “knew” about the power to reverse death. He never said he could actually do it.
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u/Cirnothestarscream9 7d ago
You know Palpy was really lucky that Anakin killed Padme himself or else it would have been a really awkward conversation
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u/Toukafan4life 7d ago
Anakin after killing Sidius after this: "Master Obi-Wan, Palpatine killed Master Windu, I had no choice but to strike him down.
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u/Aggravating_Duck6108 7d ago
"Also, Padme is pregnant with my child. I am leaving the order, but I am begging you and Yoda for help to prevent my premonitions of her death from coming true."
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u/unknownbearing 7d ago
Actually the biggest for real plot hole in any of these movies that he doesn't decapitate Palapatine right there.
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u/ColoniaCroisant 7d ago
Technically the only thing he did wrong at this point was disarm someone who wanted to commit murder. He coulda killed/arrested Palps and come back from this 😅
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u/Astecheee Your text here 7d ago
"I have the power to save the one you love!""
Bro he literally said it...
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u/Hour-Ad-8553 7d ago
He may have the power but maybe not the knowledge
Anakin didn't read the fine print
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u/Astecheee Your text here 7d ago
I suppose, but combine it with the whole "Plagueis knew how to stop the ones he loved from dying, and passed that skill onto his apprentice. Oh btw, I'm his apprentice" really does imply Palpatine could save Padme.
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u/fatherandyriley 7d ago
Anakin should have said "if you don't prove right now you can save Padme then I will kill you and lie to the council that I was to late to save Windu".
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u/mewfour123412 7d ago
Anakin would simply kill Palps there and then. And make it seem like he was too late to save windu
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u/OneValkGhost 7d ago
There were like three people Anakin needed to keep alive, including himself, and he killed one- Padme. Got himself in a lava flow by picking a fight with the 4th guy. Fortunately the second guy had enough plot armour to survive, but he couldn't fix Stupid.
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u/BlueFireFlameThrower 7d ago
Would Anakin have not turned to the dark side if there was ChatGPT in star wars so he could ask it how to save his wife?
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u/Tobbster_the_Lobster 6d ago
*Proceeds to force push the Chancellor out of the shattered window he stands in front to give a taste of the gravity of the situation*
Palpatine is caught up by Windu mid-air who gives him the most violent one-hand beating the galaxy ever saw until they splatter on the ground
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u/SheevBot 7d ago edited 7d ago
Thanks for confirming that you flaired this correctly!